Anonymous said on 12/Aug/07
Come on we all know Shaq is over 7'1" in shoes no matter what. Even if he was 7'0" he'd be 7'1.25 or 7'1.5" in shoes atleast! I got pre-draft measurements from the same place here are some of them...they all seem to be barefoot. Also "all of 7'1" probably means barefoot
1991
Dikembe Mutombo 7'1" 228
Larry Johnson 6'5 1/2"
1992
Shaquille O'Neal 7'1" 303
Robert Horry 6'8" 220
Harold Miner 6'3" 222
Oliver Miller 6'9" 318
Latrell Sprewell 6'4" 190
1993
Chris Webber 6'9" 263
Penny Hardaway 6'6" 200
J.R Rider 6'4 1/2" 218
1994
Glenn Robinson 6'7" 240
Grant Hill 6'8" 230
Jason Kidd 6-3" 215
Donyell Marshall 6-8 1/2" 218
Juwan Howard 6-8 1/2" 253
Sharone Wright 6-10" 279
Lamond Murray 6-6 1/2" 235
Brian Grant 6-8 1/2" 247
Eric Montross 7-0 1/2" 275
Yinka Dare 6'10 1/2" 271
Shaq is 7'1" no more no less. He was already 7'0" at 17 years old.
Viper said on 12/Aug/07
That link doesnt specify whether it was in shoes or barefoot. It very well could be an in shoes measurement.
Anonymous said on 10/Aug/07
Well the link to his 7'1" 303 12% measurement says otherwise. I have Barkley at 6'4 3/4 like he claims.
JT said on 10/Aug/07
Click Here This assumes Shaq is 7’1” in those shoes and 7’0” barefoot. Shaq is a bit closer to the camera than Barkley, who’s at least 6’5”.
Anonymous said on 9/Aug/07
I have a link to back up 7'1"
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pre-draft stats "7-1, 303, 12% body fat, only 20 years old"
Here is a quote from the first article
"Shaquille O'Neal, all 7-1 and 303 pounds"
Anonymous said on 9/Aug/07
LMFAO first give me a link to Shaq "admitting" it.
Chris Travis said on 8/Aug/07
BarkLey is 6' 4.5" barefoot 6 ' 6" listed. Shaq has 7inches going by them photo links with his flat shoes as oppose to them usual huge trainer soles so Shaq IS 6' 11.5" with 7' 1" listed. This is what was said originally so all you 7' 1" believers wake up and smell the coffee why do you not believe the great man himself when he admitted it. Especially you annonymous!
Alex said on 7/Aug/07
Wow Shaq does look at least 2 inches taller than Dirk who I thought was a legit 6'11. Maybe Shaq is a legit 7'1 and has his height listed barefoot?
Anonymous said on 6/Aug/07
Come on 2 inches? Shaq is leaning and Dirk's hair gives him a little edge. Shaq has 3 inches. Shaq is clearly leaning a lot in that picture. Shaq is slouching and tilting his head down...wow are you blind...an inch? Shaq has 2 inches on KG who is taller than Dirk. This should prove you wrong about Shaq's height once and for all.
With Dikembe Mutombo 7'1"
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Shaq with Tim Duncan 6'10"
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Shaq with 6'11.25" Kevin Garnett
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With Hakeem Olajuwon 6'10"
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With Karl Malone 6'8"
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Chris Webber 6'9.5"
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As you can see Shaq is atleast as tall as Mutombo, has atleast 3 inches on Hakeem and Duncan, has atleast 5 inches on Malone, around 4 inches on Webber and atleast 2 inches on KG.
Viper said on 6/Aug/07
Shaq looks an inch taller than Dirk to my eyes. If he stands up straight he has about 2 inches on him.
Arjun said on 6/Aug/07
Dirk is about as tall as Shaq at the top of his hair, standing slightly behind him. Does anyone honestly think that Dirk's hair is giving him THREE inches?? PLEASE. An inch tops between the two in this pic.
Arjun said on 6/Aug/07
3 inches on Dirk - LOL. Dirk would have to have over 2 inches of HAIR sticking up from the top of his skull for this to be true. Anonymous, you seriously need some, or stronger glasses, if you see 3 inches in this pic. And since Dirk is further from the camera, that makes him shorter, not taller - that would neutralize the loss from Shaq bending. As it is, I see an inch between the two, no more. Dirk may have hair, but it barely gives him any height.
Anonymous said on 6/Aug/07
LOL!!! Barely bigger than Dirk? Dirk is behind him and Shaq is leaning. Shaq has 3 inches on Dirk who is 6'10" Kobe is barely up to Shaq's shoulders and Kobe is around 6'5". Have you ever heard of leaning? Shaq would have 3 inches on Dirk if he was standing up straight and Dirk wasn't behind him.
Duhon said on 6/Aug/07
I don't agree with the barely taller statement, in the pic with dirk. he's obviously bending quite a bit talking to the ref, even then you notice the obvious height difference.
Arjun said on 5/Aug/07
Shaq looks very tall with Snoop Dogg (who is about 6'4"?), but Snoop is leaning somewhat. He is barely any taller than Dirk though, and Dirk is 6'11" tops I would say.
Alex said on 4/Aug/07
I think Shaq is a guy who could easily get away with 7'2-7'3 while he's really just 7'0. He's a larger than life.
Arjun said on 4/Aug/07
Shaq never, ever looks 7'2" even with the biggest of his shoes.
Anonymous said on 3/Aug/07
Shaq's shoes are big but that explains the 2 plus inch difference on KG who is 6'11 1/4 Shaq is probably 7'0 3/4 or 7'1 barefoot. Shaq's shoes make him look like a legit 7'2 but he is no more than 7'1.
Masato said on 3/Aug/07
Shaq's SHoe in 'allen4's 2nd pics look enormous. Look at where his lower leg is at with the shoes. THose shoes look like 2+ inches. They are enormous.
Duhon said on 2/Aug/07
Its quite hard to prove decisivly whether shaq is actually exactly 7'1" barefoot, at most from photographic evidence he appears at least 7". I've seen those wingspan and reach numbers bandied about alot so they likely come from some measurement he took.
Anonymous said on 2/Aug/07
garnett is the full 6'11, shaq is 7'1 and lebron is 6'8 and i know from seeing these guys on different occasions and they were all wearing pretty much same footwear of sneakers that didn't look to add height
Anonymous said on 2/Aug/07
Shaq is 7'1 barefoot, his wingspan is 7'6 and his
Standing Reach is 9'8. He also weighed just 303 pounds when he was a rookie.
Anonymous said on 1/Aug/07
Those are really barefoot Measurement in the 1995, 1997, 1998 and 1999 NBA Draft. By the way it seems like i never see the 6'11 1/2 listing of Shaquille O'Neal he might be a legit 7 footer after all.
Viper said on 1/Aug/07
Joe Smith was listed at 6-9 his freshmen season, then 6-10 the next year. Never looked any taller than 6-9 to me. Are those really barefoot measurements?
Anonymous said on 1/Aug/07
1995 NBA Pre Draft Measurement
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Players height and weight are those obtained at the Chicago pre-
draft camp. For fun I've included the USAToday Mock draft and the
Chris Monter Mock draft (from the Monter Draft News).
1. Joe Smith- 6'9 1/2
2. Antonio Mcdyess- 6'9 1/2
3. Jerry Stackhouse, UNC. h: 6-4.5 w: 208
4. Rasheed Wallace, UNC. h: 6-9.75 w: 230
5. Kurt Thomas, Texas Christian. h: 6-7.75 w: 221
6. Corliss Williamson, Arkansas. h: 6-5.5 w: 244
7. Bob Sura, Florida State. h: 6-4 w: 195
8. Alan Henderson, Indiana. h: 6-9.5 w: 235
9. Theo Ratliff, Wyoming. ht: 6-8.75 wt: 214
10. Brent Barry - 6'6 1/4
11. Michael Finley- 6'5 3/4
12. Jason Caffey, Alabama. ht: 6-7.75 wt: 244
13. Greg Ostertag - 7'0
Duhon said on 1/Aug/07
Anonymous, can we get a source for those measurments? some them seem a little off, if they're correct it appears a good number of the players chose to be listed by their real heights.
Anonymous said on 31/Jul/07
T-Mac was actually 205 pounds and Elton Brand was 275 but pretty much correct
Anonymous said on 31/Jul/07
Alright finally here are the 1997 and 1999 pre-draft measurements
1999
Guards
Steve Francis 6'2 1/2 194 pounds
Baron Davis 6'2 1/2 190 pounds
Richard Hamilton 6'6 180 pounds
Jason Terry 6'2 172 pounds
Andre Miller 6'2 190 pounds(Could just be listed height)
Forwards
Jonathan Bender 6'11 220 pounds
Lamar Odom 6'10 235 pounds
Elton Brand 6'8 260 pounds 7'5 wingspan
Corey Maggette 6'6 215 pounds
Devean George 6'6 1/2 220 pounds
Shawn Marion 6'7 215 pounds
Ron Artest 6'6 235 pounds(Could just be listed height I don't know)
Centers
Jamaal Magloire 6'10 250 pounds
1997
Guards
Chauncey Billups 6'3 207 pounds
Tracy McGrady 6'6 1/4 180 pounds
Brevin Knight 5'9 172 pounds
Antonio Daniels 6'2 191 pounds
Bobby Jackson 5'11 184 pounds
Anthony Parker 6'5 202 pounds
Derek Anderson 6'3 188 pounds
Forwards
Stephen Jackson 6'7 210 pounds
Tim Thomas 6'9 1/2 240 pounds
Keith Van Horn 6'9 1/2 240
Adonal Foyle 6'9 263 pounds
Danny Fortson 6'7 257 pounds
Centers
Tim Duncan 6'10 249 pounds
Anonymous said on 30/Jul/07
I forgot this one. Shaq up close with Dikembe Mutombo who is 7'1
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I couldn't care less if Shaq was 7'0 but he isn't he is taller than that. If he is 7'0 then Mutombo is 7'0, Hakeem is 6'8-6'9, Duncan is 6'9 and Kevin Garnett is 6'10. It doesn't add up.
Anonymous said on 30/Jul/07
Lebron James is a legit 6'8 now after being measured at 6'7 1/4 during his NBA Pre Draft Measurement he looks 2.5- 3 inches taller than 6'5 1/2 Vince Carter.
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Duhon said on 29/Jul/07
I am not a fan of the big group photo shots due to shaq always being placed behind everyone else in the back. if you could somehow flip those pics on their side you would likely see shaq's shoulders behind those standing right next to him (seeing as how he has massive shoulders its quite likely). lebron's height is not disputed this is his pre-draft measurment:
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so he is technically over 6'7" if only by .25"...
Anonymous said on 29/Jul/07
Shaq has atleast 2 inches on Kevin Garnett making him 7'1. That is obvious and Kevin Garnett has said he is 6'11 1/4.
Arjun said on 29/Jul/07
Wrong, Bosh looks taller than Howard even in the All-Star photo. And LeBron is nothing over 6'7". He does'nt even look 6'7" beside 6'5" max Kobe in one pic.
Arjun said on 28/Jul/07
Duhon, in that pic I just don't see him being 3 inches taller than Duncan whatever the camera angle. His eyes, ears etc. seem hardly any higher than Duncan's, taking into account perspective . He looks only 6'11" next to 6'10" Duncan there. Now I don't believe Shaq is as "short" as 6'11", but around 7'0" seems OK for him IMO. And what about the other recent group photo where Shaq looks only max 2.5" or so taller than max 6'9.5" Dwight Howard? He's not over 7'0" barefoot, though he could well be that.
steph said on 28/Jul/07
ahhh i saw him on santa monica beach pier ordering taco bell yesterday!!! he was really tall.. he looked sad and annoyed though.
Anonymous said on 28/Jul/07
Lebron also probably grew to 6'8 atleast he looks that tall next to Vince Carter who measured 6'5 1/2 at the 1998 pre-draft camp. Look at Shaq next to 6'11 1/4 Kevin Garnett he has about 2 inches on him. All Star pictures are hard to figure out...Chris Bosh looked shorter than Dwight Howard in the All Star picture this year but taller when they were standing next to eachother in another portrait
Duhon said on 27/Jul/07
You bring up that group pic alot with TD and shaq in the row, however its a fact in group photos duncans height tends to fluctuate depending on how close he is to the camera. there is a photo where he looks only about 5 inches shorter than yao due to his location.
there is not a pic where duncan and shaq are standing shoulder to shoulder where he looks only an inch taller. i wouldn't totally dismiss 7'1", i would say 7' is more plausible however for shaq. he looks more than 5 inches taller next to 6'7" lebron james.
Arjun said on 27/Jul/07
That pic where he is barely taller than Duncan (max an inch), even though he is standing slightly behind, shows that he is simply not 7'1" without the help of certain shoes.
Arjun said on 27/Jul/07
"At least" 7'1", lol .... Anonymous, you are actually suggesting that he could be taller than his billed height. Yep, Yao is very possibly 7'7" too.
Anonymous said on 26/Jul/07
Shaq is atleast 7'1 that is obvious because he is atleast 3 inches taller than Duncan and Olajuwon who are both 6'10. This should end the debate. Karl Malone is about 6'8-6'9 and Shaq towers over him.
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Shaq is 7'1 get over it and move on
Alex said on 20/Jul/07
Yao isn't that far off of 7'7 either. 1-2 inches.
Thing I found funny was he said they took their in shoe height and rounded down.
Duhon said on 16/Jul/07
I was hoping to find photos of shaq meeting up with oden from the espy's. i am quite confident in a meeting pic he'd have at least as much height difference as when 6'11" oden met with david robinson. so at least an inch.
Arjun said on 15/Jul/07
Certainly Viper. Who can forget all-time greats like him!!!!
Arjun said on 14/Jul/07
I agree Lillo. Shaq may well be 7'0" flat, but not over that.
Arjun said on 13/Jul/07
How about 7'7" for Yao, which makes Shaq 7'2"????
Duhon said on 11/Jul/07
I myself actually beleived he was closer to 6'7" but i guess his college listing was correct.
Duhon said on 11/Jul/07
There's alot of debate around Magic johnson's height but it appears he's at least 6'8" standing next to lebron james who is 6'7"
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Arjun said on 11/Jul/07
Yao has 5 inches or a tad more on Shaq. Shaq never makes it past the top of Yao's ears/ a little above his eye level ..... would be 4 - 4.5 inches for a guy with a normal sized head - but Yao's head is pretty big.
Anonymous said on 10/Jul/07
KG is 6'11 1/4 and he has started at guard, forward and center. Shaq looks almost 2 inches taller than KG.
Duhon said on 4/Jul/07
Frank you present so many compelling points...
Alex said on 4/Jul/07
For all we know, Shaq could be 6'11.5 but we aren't going to be able to tell the difference between 6'11.5 and 7'0 on TV to begin with. We'd need him against a height chart.
Leung said on 2/Jul/07
Kevin Garnett can play either PF or SF, lots of quickness for a man of his size but he doesn’t quite have the shooting range to be considered a perimeter player.
LV said on 2/Jul/07
Why are you guys so certain about a 6'11.5" Shaq? I've still never seen a quote of him saying he was 6'11.5". Plus, if he's 6'11.5", Yao is like 7'4" and Yao isn't that short.
frank said on 2/Jul/07
Its amazing how many muppets still don't believe shaq is 6' 11.5" end of story
gmaheat said on 2/Jul/07
It looks to me that Shaquille O'Neal is closer to 7'2, standind next to Mutumbo he is the same height and Illgalgus is about an inch taller at best.
Duhon said on 2/Jul/07
KG is still listed as apower forward, i think durant wants to be a sf. funny enough i am not a chris duhon fan just like the name.
Viper said on 30/Jun/07
Duhon, isnt Kevin Garnett a perimiter player in a way? are you a big Chris Duhon fan Duhon?
Viper said on 30/Jun/07
Also LV, not every link I posted was from some forum either. Even a few of the forum ones were articles posted in them, not some average joe giving their opinion on his height.
Viper said on 30/Jun/07
Well, it plainly stated he was measured at 6-2, 274 pounds at his pro day workout. There are no links that say "6-4 274". All those 6-4 references say "6-4 272". Thats just what hes listed at.
Jason said on 30/Jun/07
I don't think those three college listings from three different places would have rounded 6'3 3/4'' to a flat 6'3''. I say that because there's 6'3 3/4'' draft measurements floating around. I would say he was just measured in shoes for that.
Duhon said on 30/Jun/07
Durant is likely choosing to be lised at his real 6'9" height instead of 6'10" due to the fact it looks like he wants to position himself as more of a perimeter player and not a post player. 6'10" seems a little tall for a perimeter player.
LV said on 29/Jun/07
First of all, almost every link you posted is from a forum where people are stating their opinions of his height (much like this website) and can hardly be considered accurate. Of the few websites that seemed legit, they probably all got the same 6'2" listing from the same place and it was incorrect. Here is a quote I pulled off of one of your links: "Merriman measured 6-feet-4 and 272 pounds on Saturday and looked like his frame could handle another 10-15 pounds with no problem". That was stated by Len Pasquarelli from ESPN.com, I'm sure he knows alittle more about football than either of us. This doesn't help your argument any. I think Merriman was measured at 6'3" and some change so many chose to round his height up to 6'4". Jason's posts of him being 6'3" were from people likely rounding his height down. I'm going to stop talking about Merriman. Maybe they need to make a Shawne Merriman page.
Jason said on 29/Jun/07
I agree with 6'2''-6'2 1/2'' for Merriman. He was listed at 6'3'' right up until the NFL draft ... did he suddenly grow an inch at 21 just in time for the draft? lol
Eclipse said on 29/Jun/07
Viper,
Did you notice that Yahoo did not list Durant in his in shoes height?... they have him at 6-9 (instead of his listed height of 6-10 it seems everywhere else), yet they have Oden at 7-1.
Vegas said on 29/Jun/07
the nba today on their website have listed oden at 7ft and durant at 6'9
Gonzalo said on 29/Jun/07
I thought this was Shaq`s page. Forget about this Merriman, please
Jason said on 29/Jun/07
My bad about the other link. I made some other posts but they haven't come through. The link below says Bartell is 6'0'', I missed that.
Jason said on 29/Jun/07
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And he was still listed at 6-3 in the 2004-2005 season at 20. Though his listed weight went up in each season (240, 246, 255 respectively). He looks 6'2'' in the photo with 6'1'' (NFL listing) Ronald Bartell in the link.
Jason said on 29/Jun/07
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Still described as 6-3 a year later at 19.
Jason said on 29/Jun/07
Oh, my bad. He was listed at 6-3 in 2002 at 18, though. While he could have grown after then, it's more likely he didn't.
Defense
L (E) Brennan Schmidt, 6-3, 274, Virginia*
L (E) Kwakou Robinson, 6-4, 322, Virginia
L (E) Eric Henderson, 6-2, 260, Georgia Tech*
LB Doug Justice, 6-2, 238, North Carolina*
LB Darryl Blackstock, 6-4, 226, Virginia
LB Shawne Merriman, 6-3, 240, Maryland
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LV said on 28/Jun/07
Jason, the link you posted lists him at 6'4". Viper, please post the other 9 sites.
Viper said on 28/Jun/07
Couchscout isnt the only website that has him at 6-2. One of 10.
Jason said on 28/Jun/07
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Says Merriman's 6'2'' there, as well.
Vegas said on 28/Jun/07
Viper says on 27/Jun/07
Couchscout has him at an exact measurement of 6-2.4
Viper; couchscout is a user-edited website. I could create an entry for mickey mouse or donald duck there if i wanted ;)
Editor Rob
This merriman looks like he's escaped with an error listing. Its going to happen of course in a database with thousands you'll have some erroneous entries.
but as for couchscout, remember Viper, you were quoting it in the past as being accurate when I was telling you the guy himself said his database had innacuracies, he lost fractions for god's sake!. Here was his exact reply:
"I would believe Ourlads, had database, partial crash a few years back, and some of the more veteran guys, I never gone back and got the real data. I lost some of the fractional or tenth of height info, But a need to had that to my task list.
Thanx
Mike"
I've not edited that.
Viper said on 28/Jun/07
Merriman is always shorter than 6-3 Vernon Davis LV
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The 6-3 1/2 - 6-4 stuff is ridiculous nonsense. Dont make me bust out the photo where John Salley makes him look 6-0 :)
Viper said on 27/Jun/07
Ive read where Wallace was measured at 6-7.
Viper said on 27/Jun/07
6-3 Vernon Davis is taller than Merrimen. Ive already posted a full body picture of Vernon looking taller, as well as a seperate picture at a different event. Ive seen the man in the flesh back in November when he was suspended for steroid use at his alma mater. He looked a flat 6-2 to me. The absolute most you can give him is 6-2 1/2, at most. But I think its incredible you ignore the evidence where it says he was measured at 6-2 at his pro day workout. Couchscout has him at an exact measurement of 6-2.4. Man, If your this stubborn and ignorant to the truth I feel sorry for you.
Leung said on 27/Jun/07
Ben Wallace is 6'7" plus change
Derek said on 27/Jun/07
Ben Wallace said during a Pistons game he's 6'7".
LV said on 27/Jun/07
The height discussion you linked to is hardly conclusive. They're having the same argument that we are having. For every one post where it says he's 6'2" there are hundreds that say he is 6'4". I'm not buying the 6'2.4" listing either because it has Shaun Phillips at 6'3.1" and Shaun Phillips is not taller than Merriman. I agree that Merriman is not a full 6'4", I already said that, but he isn't 6'2" either.
Viper said on 27/Jun/07
"That's not how the NFL works, they want to and need to know players exact heights. You're basing your comments off of a few poor pictures with bad angles."
The NFL is usually accurate but there are a few players off by 1-2 inches. If you also notice on the same sitte that Merriman looks 6-2 1/2 with Ladanian Tomlinson, and 6-2 with 5-6 Darren Sproles. Not to mention the fact that 6-3 Luis Castillo, 6-3 Vernon Davis and 6-3.4 Antonio Gates are taller than him in pictures. Did you even see my picture where the 6-5-6-6 high school athlete literally towers over him? Unfreakingreal that you are this dense. Im just shaking my head. And I already posted links where he was measured at 6-2
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There is even a height discussion of Merriman here as well.
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Gonzalo said on 27/Jun/07
Wallace looks 2`01-2`02 barefoot.
Jason said on 27/Jun/07
Eclipse says on 25/Jun/07
''What do you guys think of the 6-9 listed height of Ben Wallace? I've heard basketball commentators claim he's as short as 6-6.''
He's 6-7. Probably 6-7 1/4 to be exact.
LV said on 26/Jun/07
Viper, you need to chill and watch the comments. First of all, I never said Shaq was 7'1". I said he was at least a full 7'0" barefoot. You call me ignorant, but can't even read posts correctly.
Why is it that you are the only one who seems to think Merriman is significantly shorter than 6'4"? I searched Yahoo! and Google and there isn't one listing (ZERO) for him at anything other than 6'4". So is everyone else wrong? Show me where he was measured at 6'2". Why would they measure him at 6'2" and then list him at 6'4"? That's not how the NFL works, they want to and need to know players exact heights. You're basing your comments off of a few poor pictures with bad angles. Why don't you repost the picture of him next to Shaun Phillips? Don't bother trying to shrink Phillips to make Merriman appear shorter because I lived in the same dormitory as Shaun Phillips and he is no less than 6'2" barefoot and was noticably shorter than Merriman. Please explain that?
weekly said on 26/Jun/07
Doesn't Guiness make 3 measurings in 24 hours? And takes the average? I think so...
Viper said on 26/Jun/07
Greg Oden makes David Robinson look young in their picture together. Unreal.
hi said on 26/Jun/07
and to those using Garnett as a measuring stick : if you solely uses his affirmation, you're fooling yourself, definitely. Stop being naive.As I said before, Garnett's LISTED size is 6-11, so it certainly means he's 6ft10 or less. He can easily get away with his 6ft11 and a few quarters (notice how precise this is...) comments, because he's rather thin for his size (or at least he was in the beginning of his career). The 2 in difference between Garnett and Shaq would be explained then: around 6 ft10 or less for Garnett,around 7 ft for Shaq.Andy Turner's have quite convinced me though...
hi said on 26/Jun/07
very interesting post, Anonymous :
Anonymous says on 11/Jun/07
2007 Draft player measurements, Greg Oden is 6-11 barefoot, Kevin Durant 6-9.
If you compare those measures to the official one, see here
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then you know how nba measurement works. O'Neal's listed height is 7ft1 in, which means that his real barefoot height must be between 6ft11 3/4 and 7 ft 0 1/4. 7 ft is right on the spot to me
Arjun said on 26/Jun/07
Eclipse, Ben Wallace is about 6'7", I believe. Some have downgraded him all the way down to 6'5", but that is just too low for him IMO.
Arjun said on 25/Jun/07
At least Guinness takes it that way (average height throughout the day). You're right Viper. Yeah, Greg Oden is 65 yrs old and has already shrunk due to "basketball-related trauma to the body" ..... then Ewing is what? 100? lol :)
Eclipse said on 25/Jun/07
What do you guys think of the 6-9 listed height of Ben Wallace? I've heard basketball commentators claim he's as short as 6-6.
Viper said on 25/Jun/07
Arjun, midday height is really your true height. You take your morning measurements and evening measurements and average them out. Guess what Arjun, Greg Oden just magically grew and is now a measured height of 7-1. I have no basis for either of these claims but its automatically right since I just made it up :) Also Greg Oden is really 65 years old.
Arjun said on 25/Jun/07
LV, I never talked about shrinkage. A man who shrunk to 5'9" from 6'0" has a "current height" of 5'9" and a "peak" or "past" height of 6'0". Where does "true height" come into this picture????
LV said on 25/Jun/07
I completely disagree Arjun. Who says the height at the end of the day is the "true height"? Guiness sure doesn't, they take several measurements and use the average height. That's like measuring an 80 year old man that used to be 6'0", but is now 5'9" and saying that his true height is 5'9".
Arjun said on 25/Jun/07
LV, I call my evening height my true height (which is just under 5'8", I do measure 5'8.5" in barefeet but that's right after waking up) and so do most of us on this site, including Editor Rob himself. The morning height is not the true height. I am not downgrading anyone when I say that their real height is shorter than their morning height. IMO, the shortest height anyone is at the end of a normal day is their true height.
Duhon said on 25/Jun/07
and people stop saying shaq has said he's 6'11.5" without any proof. its starting to sounds like an urban legend at this point. either way i expect shaq to have at least as much height over the 6'11" oden as robinson appears to have.
I'm on the fence about shaq being fully 7'1" but i'm postive he's no shorter than 7 foot evident when compared next to olajuwon or ewing, he's posibly 7'.05".
Anonymous said on 25/Jun/07
Nobody has posted a link of Shaq saying he is 6'11 1/2. If Shaq is 7'0 then Hakeem is 6'8-6'9
Arjun said on 24/Jun/07
There is no good evidence that Shaq is over 7'0", 5'11.5" guy. I can show you plenty of photos where he looks 7'0" max. And there is no good evidence that Yao is a full 7'6" either, he could very well be only 7'5" as Viper says.
LV said on 24/Jun/07
No exactly 6'4" Viper. I think Merriman is taller than 6'3" but just under 6'4". I'd say 6'3.5". Who are you to say a morning measurement isn't a true measurement? If he was measured at 6'11.5", that's his height. To be more exact is average height would be more realistic, 6'11.25". My point is that Arjun, always downgrades people whenever he can and then compare them to another person to make that person appear shorter than they really are. Believe me, you to the Andre thread, I'm not the only one with these feelings.
kirk said on 24/Jun/07
lol shaq has said he is only 6foot1. ................ ITS SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!! he also said once he could not read!!!!!!! lOOk im a 6 foot 9 basketball player from denver, and i have met all but like 30 players, and shaq is 7'1"
Viper said on 24/Jun/07
So you measured Yao at 7-6 personally? I cant stop laughing right now. Have you even bothered to look at all the evidence Arjun has provided? Talki about being blind.
5'11.5 guy said on 24/Jun/07
Clam down Viper. Yao was re-measured at 7'6 and has been listed as such. Shaq has been consistently 2-3 inches taller than near 6'10ers and 6'11ers. He's 7'1. Get over it.
Viper said on 23/Jun/07
5-11.5 guy, where the hell do you get off on upgrading people saying "they grew" with no official documentation to back it up. Are you for real? Most evidence, plus the fact that Yao was measured at 7-5 puts Yao at 7-5. Not taller. Shaq looks 7-0 tops when you look at all of his picture evidence. And Shaq even says hes 6-11 1/2 for lords sakes. Yet you say, "hes taller", he must be over 7-0 for some strange reason. Its plain as day that Shaq comes out at 7-0 now. Rob has him at 7-0. Arjun says the same thing that everything puts Shaq at 7-0. Could he be 6-11 1/2? Possibly. Probably a better chance hes that height since it comes out of Shaq's mouth.
Viper said on 23/Jun/07
Arjun isnt shrinking anyone. Why go with the 6-11 1/2 morning measurement when his 6-11 measurement was probably during the midday, which would be his true height. Morning measurements are not your true height. Some of of you guys are just ridiculous and try to bring other people down when your wrong. LV, do you still think Shawne Merriman is a ridiculous 6-4? LOL
LV said on 23/Jun/07
Arjun, you'll shrink anybody! Why go with the 6'11" measurement vs the 6'11.5" one? For all we know, the D'Rob/Russell/Ewing was taken at 7am. You'll really showing your "shrinking bias" when you make comments like that. I know if I measured .5" different at different points in the day, I'd call myself the taller of the two heights.
Duhon said on 23/Jun/07
You can't deny there was a good deal of talk about yao growing form 7'5" to 7'6". Something that is not often heard when dealing with nba players. the rockets training staff claimed that yao had indeed grown from the time of his pre-draft measurements to season open.
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Anonymous said on 23/Jun/07
I'd say Oden 6'11 1/2, Shaq 7'1, Ewing 6'10, Russell 6'9 1/2(prime), Robinson 7'0 1/2, Hakeem 6'10, Mutombo, 7'1, Wilt 7'1 1/2, Duncan 6'10, Yao 7'6. Shaq is 7'1...Andrew Bynum was measured 7'0 1/4 barefoot before growing 3/4 of an inch so he is now 7'1 too. Shaq looks too tall to be anything less than 7'0 1/2
Derek said on 22/Jun/07
The Houston Rockets claimed Yao grew 3/4" from late 2002-late 2003.
Viper said on 22/Jun/07
Yao look no taller than 7-5 with all of the evidence Arjun has provided. Even ESPN refers to him as 7-5 sometimes. Yao has not grown since his 7-5 measurement.
Arjun said on 22/Jun/07
LV, D-Rob looks only an inch taller than Oden . I'd go with the lower 6'11" measurement for Oden - the 6'11.5" was probably a more morning measurement. So this is more evidence of D-Rob being only 7'0", which is what I've been saying all along.
Arjun said on 22/Jun/07
How do we know for sure Yao grew???? In some pics, yes, he does look around 7'6", but there are many in which he looks only 7'5" as well. Regardless, he's way taller than every other center in the NBA even if he's only 7'5".
Derek said on 21/Jun/07
I also heard that Yao grew. He was measured at 7'5" in 2002, but I think he grew to 7'5 3/4" by late 2003-early 2004. 7'5 3/4" is as close to 7'6" as you're going to get.
Anonymous said on 21/Jun/07
Yao really looks 7'6 now. At his size he could have easily grown like the Rockets claim he did
5'11.5 guy said on 21/Jun/07
No offense Viper, but Yao grew. I know you have some "thing" with downgrading famous individuals. But Shaq isn't any smaller than 7', and probably taller. Yao isn't under 7'5.5.
Anonymous said on 20/Jun/07
First someone provide a link of Shaq saying he was 6'11 1/2 second of all he could easily be joking.
Viper said on 20/Jun/07
Yao was measured at 7-5. So the 7-5 measurement overrides your opinion of him being taller, no offence 5-11.5 guy.
Arjun said on 19/Jun/07
Yes Duhon, and Shaq generally comes to the top of Yao's ears in those back to back shots .... and top of head to top of ears (minus hair, of course) is almost exactly 5 inches for Yao, by scaling in Photo editor. 7'5" Yao, 7'0" Shaq.
Though I ain't completely ruling out that 6'11.5" :) but 7'0" seems OK as an average height of all the pics of Shaq we've seen.
Duhon said on 19/Jun/07
Arjun you finally see my point, these side by side group shots are usually very suspect. a player standing even slightly closer to the camera can gain an inch or more in appearance, likewise players relegated to the back (as shaq is in most cases) will sometimes lose height.
I prefer back to back pics, like the one posted before of yao and shaq.
Viper said on 18/Jun/07
Who knows. The 6-11 1/2 could be right as well.
Danimal said on 18/Jun/07
What about Shaq stating that he was 6'11.5" on Howard Stern?
Viper said on 18/Jun/07
I agree Arjun. Shaq comes out at 7-0 taking eveything into account.
Arjun said on 18/Jun/07
Thanks Vegas.
Guys, coming to think of it .... I've come to the conclusion that these All-Star pictures are basically worthless when it comes to estimating height. In one, Duncan looks taller than Dirk and KG, in another KG looks taller than Dirk and Duncan .... and the subtle variations in head size prove this. Duncan has discreetly moved in front for that All-Star 2007 Western Conference pic. Ultimately, I would have to put Shaq at 7'0" on the dot.
Vegas said on 18/Jun/07
i agree 100% with your assessment Arjun. A sub 7ft Shaq based on all the recent evidence is hard to see (although in the past i did think 6'11.5 was possible). But 6'10?? no way
Anonymous said on 18/Jun/07
Something is strange about that picture...Rip hamilton is way taller than 6'5 1/4 Caron Butler. If Shaq is 7'0 then Duncan and Hakeem are only 6'9
Arjun said on 18/Jun/07
Thanks LV. I still think it's only about 2 inches - 2.5 tops, but I'm leaning towards just 2. 7'0" on the dot looks OK for Shaq. 6'11" ? Doubt it, but not completely out of the question . 6'10" is too low though and out of the question IMO.
LV said on 17/Jun/07
I agree with you on this one Arjun, I think Shaq is no shorter than 7'0" barefoot. I'm just not buying the fact that many are trying to put him at 6'11" barefoot. I wouldn't put too much stock in one picture with Dwight Howard either. The difference is more like 2.5"-3" (6'9.5" for Howard and 7'0" for O'Neal). Here is the picture I'm referring to (
Click Here). Also, Howard is slightly in front of both O'Neals.
Andy Turner said on 17/Jun/07
So 6'11.5 as stated so many times at last does look very feasible
Arjun said on 17/Jun/07
Duhon, that pic of Kobe and Shaq was a very good one, both side by side, both standing straight enough with hands on their waists. Shaq seriously looks to be only 7 inches taller than Kobe there .... fits in with their billed heights of 6'6" and 7'1". Kobe is not a legit 6'6" .... that has been proven. Most people who have met him say he's max 6'5". Now one site has him at 6'4" .... if Kobe is really only 6'4", what does that make Shaq? My point is: If Kobe is'nt 6'6" (which he is'nt) Shaq is'nt 7'1", as there is only 7 inches between the two.
Compare Shaq to Dwight Howard (billed 6'11") in the recent All-Star 2007 pic.
Even LV, who is part of the 7'+ - 7'1" Shaq camp, thinks that Howard is well under 6'11" - he has said "Howard is lucky if he's 6'9 1/2". Why then, does Shaq look only 2 inches taller than him in that pic?
Whatever Shaq's true height is, you have to admit that he appears shorter than 7'1" in many pics, not just one. I think the likely explanation is that his footwear varies by upto an inch. The days he wears his thinner soled shoes - he looks just over average height (for an NBA center).
I think 7'0" barefoot is where Shaq should be left, as an "average" of all the heights he appears in photos.
Arjun said on 17/Jun/07
Viper, if that 6'11" measurement was relatively late in the day, then Shaq will likely have just an inch on Oden. If it was in the morning, then Shaq could look more than an inch taller..... Then again, the pics won't be barefoot ones of course, and as we've discussed before, his (Shaq's) shoes are sometimes suspect ...
Arjun said on 17/Jun/07
6'11" at one measurement and 6'11 1/2" at the other? If it's true, there's a simple explanation - the higher measurement was in the morning.
Arjun said on 17/Jun/07
LV says "I can't wait to see O'Neal next to Oden, then everyone who thinks O'Neal is 6'11" barefoot will look foolish. I suspect O'Neal will be 1"+ taller."
Unless Shaq shrunk as the commentators say ... lol.
Duhon said on 16/Jun/07
Draft measurements are usually a helpful tool in comparisons. i've been saying for a while shaq has looked taller than legit 6'11" measured players such as andrew bogut.
Duhon said on 16/Jun/07
Arjun everybody has their own biases when it comes to perspectives. i wish more people would post those potoshopped ruler pics comaporin
Anonymous said on 16/Jun/07
Oden also measured 6'11 1/2 at another workout. Shaq is clearly 7'1...he towers over Hakeem and Duncan both 6'10.
Viper said on 15/Jun/07
I dont think anybody is going to be downgrading Shaq's height if we can get a clear crystal picture of him with Oden.
Arjun said on 15/Jun/07
Kobe Bryant is 6'5" max (Many people who have met him say he's closer to 6'4.5", one site has him at just 6'4") and Shaq looks only 9% taller than him (7 inches). Shaq is 7'0" max.
Gonzalo said on 14/Jun/07
O´Neal looks clearly taller than Oden, who from TV didn´t look like a seven footer. 6`11 barefoot for Oden sounds realistic.
But if O´Neal looks more than an inch taller than Oden the `downgradators group´will say that Oden is 6`10. We know how this thing works.
LV said on 13/Jun/07
I can't wait to see O'Neal next to Oden, then everyone who thinks O'Neal is 6'11" barefoot will look foolish. I suspect O'Neal will be 1"+ taller.
Ozzy said on 12/Jun/07
Channing Frye: 6'9.5 w/o, 6'10.5 w... 6'11 listing, if Ewing is, say, 6'9.75, and his shoes gave him 1.5" a 7 foot listing by the nba is not far fetched... also, 6'10 listed players like Al Horford and Brandan Wright measured at 6'8.75 w/o shoes. So, Zo might be that hight to, between 6'8.5 and 6'9 somewhere.
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Anonymous said on 11/Jun/07
2007 Draft player measurements, Greg Oden is 6-11 barefoot, Kevin Durant 6-9.
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Viper said on 2/Jun/07
Or Thompson is shorter than that height.
LV said on 2/Jun/07
Nice pics weekly but Ewing was leaning in the first two. In the last one, he's standing tall and is easily taller than the 6'9"-6'10" Thompson
BigBen said on 1/Jun/07
7'0 barefoot sounds right for Big Shaq. maybe 7'0.5 (215cm) to 7'1 in the morning.
I'm 6'4.5 (194cm) in the middle of the day, but i'm almost 6'5 (195,5cm) in the morning.
Duhon said on 1/Jun/07
Ewing looks 6'10"-6'11" in those pics next to the 6'9"-6'10" thompson.
mike m said on 30/May/07
Ewing looks 7'0" in that pic.shaq does look 3 inches taller than akeem.
LV said on 29/May/07
There's no way Ewing is anywhere near 6'9" (
Click Here). John Thompson was 6'10" in his prime and I'm sure 6'9" even in his old age in that picture with Ewing.
Alex said on 24/May/07
When you say strong with your height you're above that height normally. Like a strong 6'2 would be 6'2 and change most of the day while a weak 6'2 would be someone who is 6'2 out of bed and 6'1 and change throughout the day.
Duhon said on 23/May/07
Well in any case ewing is still closer to 6'10 than 6'9" flat. Maybe for those of you not so familiar with slang "bad" actually means good in this situation. Ewing may have shrunken a very little bit since he retired so he's possibly under 6'10" now. Still back on track to shaquille, he is a good measuring stick when comparing illegit 7 footers like ewing or hakeem with a more legitimate one. He always appered taller than the 1 inch height advantage he was given in listings towards them.
Anonymous said on 22/May/07
Hakeem is 6'10. databasebasketball backs that up. That also shows Shaq is easily 7'1 considering he has atleast 3 inches on Hakeem. Ewing I honestly don't know because Zo was measured at 6'9 during the 2000 olympics.
weekly said on 22/May/07
Now we have a special situation here. Finally we have a man (not 18-years-old big-mouthed teenager) confessing himself he is a "bad" 6-9, admitting just another guy's statement. And still there are people who "don’t see Ewing being anything less than 6’11”".
Ewing used to wear his own shoes mark, didn't he? Maybe that could be the answer.
Arjun said on 22/May/07
I agree Viper - Yao is a solid 7'5" but no more, and has likely been so since he entered the NBA. He looks it compared to Duncan , KG, Shaq etc.
stephan said on 22/May/07
shaq is 6'11.5" barefoot without huge soled shoes.
Leung said on 21/May/07
Ewing would physically match up well against other 7 footers in the NBA. A 6’9” player would have been an obvious mismatch against the likes of David Robinson, Mutombo, Shaq, Rick Smits etc
Realistically I don’t see Ewing being anything less than 6’11”.
Anonymous said on 21/May/07
Read about Yao's height here
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I agree about Ewing being 6'9 3/4(a strong 6'9)
weekly said on 21/May/07
Maybe Ewing wasn't inflated by 3 inches, it could be possibly like his barefoot height 6'9 3/4, with shoes 6'11 3/4 and NBA made it 7'0.
Viper said on 21/May/07
Yao was measured at a flat 7-5, not 7-5 1/2. And no, it doesnt look like hes grown at all. Rob has him at 7-5 as well.
Leung said on 20/May/07
Just like Duhon explained, it is absurd the idea of a 6’9” running around in the NBA for over 15 years masquerading as a 7 footer. If you guys reckon that Ewing was 6’9” then that would put Hakeem at 6’8”, Mourning at 6’7” and Jordan down at 6’3”. Is this being realistic? I don’t think so.
Arjun said on 20/May/07
If Mutombo is 7'2" then Yao is way taller than 7'5", more like 7'7". Anonymous, why did you downgrade only Yao and Ewing while upgrading all the others?
Alex said on 19/May/07
Shaq 7'0
Robinson 7'0
Duncan 6'10
Ewing was listed at 7'0 right so I doubt he would be under 6'10 unless it was one of those few bigger inflations.
Anonymous said on 19/May/07
Ewing 6'9 3/4, Hakeem 6'10, Duncan 6'10, Shaq 7'1, Yao 7'5 1/2, Mutombo 7'1, David Robinson 7'0, Alonzo Mourning 6'9
Derek said on 19/May/07
Viper- It's possible, though I'm not sure how likely that is. Ewing is only 45, so he would have to have serious back problems.
lillo thomas said on 19/May/07
if erwing is only 6'9 like he supposely said then is no way in hell that shaq is 7'1 . he never look 4 inches taller that erwing. In most pics the difference is about 2 inches.
Anonymous said on 19/May/07
Shaq=7'1" Mutumbo=7'2" Ewing=6'9" Yao=7'5" Garnett=6'11.5" Duncan=6'11"
Arjun said on 19/May/07
Viper, Mutombo is not much over 7'0" himself :)
Arjun said on 19/May/07
Some dude on this page once claimed that Shaq was as "short" as 6'10". Now that is just too low , no matter how big his soles may be :)
lillo thomas said on 18/May/07
i think that erwing is 6'10 barefoot with shoes 6'11.5 and with round up 7 feet ( his nba listing).
3 inch inflation is too big even in nba. most players are 1-1.5 inch inflated and 2 inches max.
Viper said on 18/May/07
Derek, maybe Ewing shrunk half an inch?
Arjun said on 18/May/07
Duhon, D-Rob is just not 7'1". He may not be quite as low as 6'11", but he is not 7'1" barefoot. Else we have to upgrade a lot of people, some to ridiculous levels (I consider upgrading Yao to 7'7" to be a ridiculous upgrade, for instance)
Viper said on 17/May/07
I beleive Ewing is very close to 6-10 or just on it. 6-9 1/2 - 6-9 3/4 coincides with his strong 6-9 admission.
Viper said on 17/May/07
Duncan was listed at 6-10 in college. Pretty much set in stone for me.
Derek said on 17/May/07
My dad met Ewing in the early 90s and he said 6'10", but a 6'9" guy can easily get away with it. I know the NBA is known for fudging heights, but not 3 inches. I personally think Ewing is 6'10", Mourning is 6'8", Dream at 6'10"(him and Ewing were around the same height).
Anonymous said on 17/May/07
Mourning is 6'9..that is what he measured during the 2000 Olympics. I'll give Ewing 6'9 1/2-6'9 3/4(a strong 6'9)
Robinson is about 7 feet because he is about an inch taller than 6'11 1/4 KG
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I'll say Shaq 7'1, Robinson 7'0, Ewing 6'9 3/4, Mourning 6'9, Mutombo 7'1, Duncan 6'10 1/2
weekly said on 17/May/07
Ewing said himself he's a "bad" 6-9, e.g.
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That picture with Mourning, Mutombo and Ewing isn't very proper, Ewing is in advantage evidently, btw. he and Mutombo are trying to straighten up while Zo is standing in "cool" posture.
Duhon said on 17/May/07
The fact that some of you are now saying david robinson is 6'11.5" is showing the great lengths some of you will go to demote anybody over 7 feet. i swear if yao ming was a couple inches shorter there'd be people going he's really 6'11 3/4.
Arjun, to say navy height listing are as valid or invalid as those of guiness world records ukraine is somewhat comical. Tim Duncan is a legitimate debate as to what his heigth is, i don't believe its set in stone that he's 6'10". You also agrred with my point that the closer you are to the camera the taller you look. shaquille in almost every group photo is always standing the furthest back. as for garnett there have been enought pictures posted below here and on his page to see that he is 6'11".
Viper said on 17/May/07
Ewing says hes a strong 6-9. Hakeem is 6-10.
Duhon said on 17/May/07
How tall do you think guys like hakeem and ewing are then? according to some of you patrick ewing would have to be 6'8"-6'9" max in this photo. regardless of shoe heights no nba player can get away with saying there 4 inches taller. Anyone who's seen pre-draft measurements from the last decade knows shoes add a max 2 inches with an average of 1.5-1 inches. i know hakeem olajuwon in one of his books stated he was 6'10 3/4 in reality, i think that is likely what ewing is close to.
Viper said on 17/May/07
I may be imagining this but I swear I saw a 6-11 listing for David Robinson back in the day. It was either a card or video game.
Alex said on 17/May/07
Duncan is 6'10 and Robinson 7'0.
Shaq just gives the impression of a guy over 7'0. The guy could go and say he's 7'2 or more and could get away with it. I think he's 7'0 though.
Arjun said on 17/May/07
Viper, he (Robinson) only looks 6'11" and change with Duncan in those trophy pics.
Arjun said on 17/May/07
Viper, he (D-Rob) only looks 6'11.5"ish with Duncan in those trophy pics.
Viper said on 17/May/07
David Robinson has never looked 7-1.
Arjun said on 17/May/07
Anonymous, you have posted that pic of Shaq and Duncan holding the trophy many, many times. There is no way Shaq actually has that much height on Duncan.
Arjun said on 17/May/07
Duhon said:-
"Back to LV's point, i'm not a big fan of the side by side group shots. whoever stands closer to the camera automatically appears taller often by a good deal. the taller individual will often be told to stay behind the shoulders of the other's, creating the sense they are shorter then they really are. Back to back poses are the best in comparing height."
Going
by your own logic Duhon, KG is standing behind Shaq and still appears only an inch shorter. Why should'nt he "appear a good deal taller" by moving in front?
Arjun said on 17/May/07
LV, I never said I was a height expert. I simply state my opinion like any of you, and provide analysis of pictures to show how I arrive at my estimates. Documentation and hearsay are not proof of height. Yes, Shaq's 6'11.5" is also hearsay, but here is a pretty good pic of him looking it. It's not the only pic where he looks 6'11.5"ish BTW - he has also looked 6'11.5" compared to Hogan in 1994, and compared to 6'2" Triple H in another pic. Now you cannot trash those pics just because these are wrestlers who may be wearing lifts. Any boots or lifts they wear will be negated by Shaq's big basketball shoes or other similarly chunky footwear. Dwight Howard is 6'9.5" max in his bare feet, and Shaq looks only 2 inches taller than him in the recent All-Star pic as well.
"Garnett recently stated that he's over 6'11" barefoot". Now do we have to upgrade KG as well to make Shaq 7'1"???. If you cannot believe Shaq stating that he's 6'11.5", why believe KG (or anyone else for that matter) stating that they are any height? D-Rob has "never looked anything less than 7'1", why not upgrade him to 7'1.5" or 7'2" as well? He sure does'nt look 7'1" with Duncan.
"They (KG and Shaq) are further apart in that picture and may not be in exactly the same plane" Exactly, KG is standing behind Shaq. Shaq is behind TD, but he is no more behind Duncan, than he is ahead of KG.
Anonymous said on 16/May/07
Also if you don't think 6'10 guys have big shoes too than you are even dumber than I thought.
Anonymous said on 16/May/07
Actually people are just saying Shaq said he was 6'11 1/2 when I actually posted Shaq at 17 saying he was already 7 feet. This picture proves Shaq has 2.5-3 inches on Duncan
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Also Yao is likely 7'5 1/2-7'6 and he has 5 inches on Shaq.
Shaq towering over Lebron by 6-7 inches and Lebron is atleast 6'7 1/4(He might have grown)
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Shaq easily has 3 inches on 6'10 Hakeem
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How do you explain that other than Shaq being 7'0 1/2- 7'1 barefoot?
Duhon said on 16/May/07
and i don't want to call you out, but you have somewhat contradicted yourself on the duncan height issue. In an earlier post you clearly stated you believed duncan to be 6 inches shorter than yao. If duncan is only 6'10 as you feel, than that makes yao 7'4" which is incorrect since he was measured as nothing below 7'5".
Duhon said on 16/May/07
Arjun, you are being very picky and choosy with what pics you take as the gold standard for measuring shaq's height. there are arguably many more pics of shaq looking taller than both td and garnett than the one you have chosen. you seem to be discarding alot of pictures in favor of that one. on the andre page i agree with your assertation that there are many more andre pics of him looking under 7 feet than over, with shaq it is the opposite.
You have also jumped over the dikembe question again, shoulder to shoulder right next to ewing both shaq and dikembe look essentially the same height. As well why do you see 6 inchs between shaq and yao but not i belive only 4 inches between mutumbo and yao? when next to yao they both again, look practically the same heigt?
Robinson was 7'1 coming out of the navy, i have not heard of the navy exagerating its solidiers heights regardless if they play for a sport. His growth spurt from a 6'7" freshmen in the navy to a 7'1" senior was very documented.
LV said on 16/May/07
First of all Arjun, just because you make more posts on here than just about anyone else doesn't mean you are a height expert. Second, I don't think Shaq is a full 7'1" barefoot, but over 7'0" and less than 7'1". Duhon and I are in agreement in our opinions and he made some great points in his last post. What's you point about Garnett? He recently stated that he's over 6'11" barefoot. Making him 7'0" in shoes or roughly an inch shorter than Shaq. Not to mention the fact they are further apart in the picture and may not be in exactly the same plane. Anyone proof on any of what your claiming other than opinions? David Robinson's height is well documented due to his massive growth spurt while in the Navy and he's never looked anything less than 7'1".
Viper said on 16/May/07
Im surprised some of you guys dont beleive Shaq's 6-11 1/2 height out of his own mouth. He wouldnt downgrade himself with an exact measurement like that. We have evidence to back that up. If this was an actor I gurantee more of you guys would beleive their own stated height compared to their inflated billed height, but why not Shaq?
Viper said on 16/May/07
That article is farfeteched. It says the NBA exagerrates by 4 inches on some guys? Also Larry Johnson is 6-5, not barely 6-3.
Arjun said on 16/May/07
LV, the line you drew just proves my point. There is only an inch difference between Shaq and KG, who is standing behind him. If Shaq gains height by stepping forward to line up with TD - KG gains height by stepping forward to line up with Shaq too.
Arjun said on 16/May/07
LV, aha , I see you are upgrading TD to 6'11"!!! Anything to make Shaq 7'1", huh ;) D-Rob is not a legit 7'1" IMO, TD looks maybe 1.5 inches shorter than him in Duhon's pics, D-Rob is more like 7'0" max, perhaps 6'11.5".
Let's analyse once again. KG is a maximum of an inch taller than Duncan in reality, and he looks the same height in my pic. That means TD is gaining no more than an inch from standing closer. Since Shaq is closer to the camera than KG, TD is gaining even less than an inch from being closer - more like 1/2" max. Sorry, even accounting for Shaq being a step behind, there is just no way that there is any more than 1.5" difference in that pic, so Shaq is 6'11.5" when he does not wear his big shoes. He indeed looks 2 inches or more taller than Duncan in many pics, but that is with his big-soled shoes. Him being just one step behind cannot explain why he is so much shorter next to Duncan here than in the other pics. None of the men are slouching either.
Anonymous said on 16/May/07
Duhon has common sense...Shaq is 7'1. LOL why would he be on his tiptoes next to Hakeem and Duncan anyway? He is no doubt taller
Duhon said on 16/May/07
Back to LV's point, i'm not a big fan of the side by side group shots. whoever stands closer to the camera automatically appears taller often by a good deal. the taller individual will often be told to stay behind the shoulders of the other's, creating the sense they are shorter then they really are. Back to back poses are the best in comparing height.
LV said on 15/May/07
Arjun, you always seem to see and believe what you want. Shaq and Garnett are both standing behind Duncan, Yao, and Dirk. It's obvious, look at how they are both shadowed differently than the others. Regardless, he's taller than all of them even being slightly behind (
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Arjun said on 15/May/07
2.5 inches max in your 3rd pic. And since Shaq has nowhere near 2.5 inches on TD in the pic I posted, I can only conclude that he wears massive shoes on the court. If he can look that "short" next to a 6'10" guy like TD at any time, there is a high probability that he is nothing over 7'0" and likely a little under.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
Anonymous, in your first pic, Shaq is surely on his tiptoes. The second one is no good. In the third one, Shaq looks more like 2 inches taller - but well, that is with his huge shoes.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
And once again, Mutombo is not a legit 7'2". 7'1" max barefoot.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
Anonymous, Shaq 6'11.5" would not make Duncan anywhere near 6'8 1/2". He has max an inch on Duncan, who is right next to him in that pic. I don't see Shaq having anywhere near 3 inches on Duncan in that pic, no matter which way you look at it. If he has even 2 inches on Duncan, then his forehead is 9"+ long.
None of them are slouching.Unless TD is on his tiptoes ......
KG is further from the camera than Shaq is (compare their feet) and still looks max an inch shorter. Shaq is just not 7'1" barefoot - more like 7'0" max. He easily hits 7'1" or more in his big-soled shoes though. When a person looks shorter in a pic, and they are not standing further from the camera or slouching, it's very likely that they simply wore thinner soles for that pic. Same for Shaq.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
Shaq is slightly in front of KG, that's for sure. And compare KG and Shaq both to Yao's ears. KG comes max an inch lower on Yao's ear than Shaq, if that, and that is with standing slightly behind.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
LV,there is no way Shaq is standing behind any of the others - you can see one of his feet and one of KG's, to me it actually looks as though his foot is slightly ahead of KG's.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
No, LV, he is not standing significantly, if at all behind them - check out one of his feet, they are not visibly behind KG's. There is no way that he would have even close to 3 inches on Duncan. There is max an inch difference between him and Duncan. That difference is not increasing to 2+ inches whichever way the camera tilts. Shaq is no 7'1" barefoot, that's for sure - maybe 7'0" barefoot, but that's the maximum.
He looks only 2 inches taller than " 6'11" " Dwight Howard who is closer to 6'9" barefoot, in an All-Star 2007 pic as well. The reason his height fluctuates is very likely his dubious shoes. There is no other way he could sometimes look 2+ inches taller than Duncan, and at other times barely an inch taller. He is surely on his tiptoes on the pic where he has 3+ inches on Duncan.
Arjun said on 15/May/07
Correct Viper. He has to be on his tiptoes in the pics with Duncan where he looks 3 or more inches taller than him. I see no more than an inch in this pic between him and Duncan. Where did those 2+ inches disappear? He does'nt exactly tower over KG either. A maximum of an inch there too. And Yao seems to tower him more than usual - I see a difference greater than 5 inches in this pic.
LV said on 14/May/07
Nice try Arjun. I hardly call that proof. Shaq is standing behind both Yao and Duncan making him look shorter than usual. One picture, wow. Still 7'+ barefoot. He's much taller than all 6'11" guys he's pictured with and is a little taller than legit 7 footers.
Anonymous said on 14/May/07
LOL there is no proof at all. Shaq was 7'0 when he was 17 and he is 7'1 now. I posted Shaq saying he was 7'0 when he was 17...what more do you need?
Shaq with 6'10 Tim Duncan
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Also the reason Shaq has 2 inches on 6'11 1/4 KG is because he is 7'1 and the reason he has 6 inches on 6'7 1/4 Lebron is because he's 7'1...lol some people are in denial. So if Shaq is 6'11 1/2 what does that make Duncan? 6'8 1/2 and than is Ilguaskas is 7'0-7'0 1/2? Is Mutombo 6'11 1/2 too? You see it doesn't make sense
Here is Shaq with Ilguaskas around 7'2
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Also there is the same difference between mutombo and Yao as there is between Shaq and Yao
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We HAVE proof Shaq is taller than 6'11 1/2
Viper said on 14/May/07
It all make sense to me. We HAVE proof that Shaq looks 6-11.5. The guy DOES wear bigger sole shoes to look talller.
Arjun said on 14/May/07
Thanks someone. I think Shaq is not over 7'0", but not under 6'11.5".
someone said on 14/May/07
in Arjun's pic.I think shaq forgot to wear his huge-soled shoes.That's maybe Shaq's true height.(6'11.5" barefoot).
someone said on 14/May/07
You're awesome...Arjun.
198andstillgrowing said on 14/May/07
I'm gonna give Shaq 214 cm or 7 foot and a half inch. I don't think Shaq is below 7 foot. He might be 7 foot on the dot though. DOn't think his lower than that.
Gonzalo said on 14/May/07
It´s funny what happens about Shaq. We see a pic of him next to, let´s say Kevin Garnett, and we see Shaq has two inches on him. Then the answer from those against Shaq is always the same: no, Garnett is 6`10. If Shaq has six or seven inches on LeBron those guys would say "no, LeBron is 6`5". And so on. It is getting kind of boring
Arjun said on 14/May/07
Duhon, I'm not saying Yao is 6 inches taller than Shaq, I'm just saying that it could appear nearly that much in that pic. Yao does have a big head, especially forehead, you can see that compared to Shaq's. Yao has the limbs of a very low-range 7 footer. A large amount of his height comes from his long torso, neck and head.
I believe the true difference between these two men is about 5 inches. But I don't think Yao is taller than 7'5" barefoot.
Anonymous said on 13/May/07
Well Andy turner you started by saying I don't have a clue after i posted many links. Shaq was 17 in 1989 and I think he is 7'1 today. I have provided more than enough links. Are you going to tell me you only see 4 1/4 inches between Shaq and Lebron? Shaq is about 6 inches taller.
Duhon said on 13/May/07
Arjun, i think we should get some outside persepectives on the yao-shaq back to back pics you see 6 inches, i do not believe it is that much. i've stood next to people who were 6 inches taller than me and i felt the difference was much greater than what shaq is experiencing with yao.
Duhon said on 13/May/07
Its funny the people supporting that shaq is above 7 feet have provided so much evidence yet those against are providing very little. Have you all seen how the alleged 7 footers ,patrick ewing and hakeem olajuwon look next to a legit 7 footer like shaq? they all appear much smaller.
Andy, i know you're not a fan of bringing up garnett but he is a legit measuring tool. It would be hard to debate that he is not 6'11" and in every picture he is with shaquille he appears shorter. Unless you have measured shaq yourself i'm not sure you have that much mroe claim than anyone else here. 95% of this site is based on picture comparison's.
weekly said on 13/May/07
I think it's naive to believe what 17/18-year-old Shaq is saying on that video. It was just a teenage with so many spectators starring at him, on air at the same time, he wanted to make himself bigger than he really was. I reckon it's a typical reaction of an eighteen.
someone said on 13/May/07
In movies "steel" shaq is exactly 6'11.5". everbody will see.
someone said on 13/May/07
I couldn't agree more with andy turner and mask. Shaquille o'neal is 6'11.5" barefoot.
mask said on 13/May/07
I agree with you Andy Turner about respecting others' opinion and let me tell you that I believe what you said because Shaq could very well be 6'11.5"
Arjun said on 13/May/07
Duhon, Yao's forehead is massive, I am pretty sure there is around a 6 inch gap between his eyes and the top of his head even without his hair. Look at the size of his forehead compared to Shaq's, you can easily tell that it's longer than Shaq's even w/o the hair. Yao is proportioned differently compared to traditional giants. His arms and legs are no longer than Shaq's (look at their waist heights) but he has a long torso, long neck and big head. His limbs, hands and feet are those of a mere 7-footer - 5 - 6 inches shorter. A lot of his height comes from his torso, neck and head as you can clearly see with Shaq.
His shoulder to top of head is MUCH longer than Shaq's, even his shoulders are only about 2 inches higher.
Arjun said on 13/May/07
Duhon, Yao has a habit of tilting his head slightly downwards, so his eyebrows and eye level look lower than with a neutral head position. Compare to his ears, in the first pic, Shaq does look as though he will be at least a half inch under the top of Yao's ears. Now with Yao's huge head, I am pretty sure that the top of his head to the top of his ears is about 5 inches ( it is 4 - 4.5 inches for most guys, about 4.25 inches in my case) so I do see close to 6 inches there.
Arjun said on 13/May/07
Anonymous does have a point there. I've seen that video before of the 17 year old Shaq claiming he's "7 foot even" when told "You're not six-eleven, are you?"
Arjun said on 13/May/07
Mutombo is'nt a legit 7'2". If he's 7'2" then Yao is the dreaded " 7'7" ".
I would say he's 7'1" at best.
Anonymous said on 12/May/07
LOL just because I actually back up Shaq being atleast 7 feet with links...including Shaq saying it when he was 17-18 years old himself! Shaq is atleast 7 feet and probably the 7'1 he is listed.
Gonzalo said on 12/May/07
Shaq is never ever under 7 feet tall.
Andy Turner said on 12/May/07
This "annonymous" person who has submitted some comments in the last few days is making me very annoyed indeed. He hasn't got a clue how tall Shaq is and is just going by photos and Kevin Garnett. For the last time whether this total idiot believes me or not I know the truth and to hell with the rest of them insignificant people who still maintain he's 7' 1. I just wish we could measure him in full view of you all just to shut you all up forever
someone said on 12/May/07
sorry "and not stand very straight up in any time that he stand with other players."
I have wrong typing in below comment.
someone said on 12/May/07
I said "if shaq wear a common shoes soles not wear only big shoes soles like now"
and stand very straight up in any time he stand with other players...shaq try to make us look him very tall...you know?
shaq was exactly 6'11.5"
Duhon said on 12/May/07
As for how shaq looks with wrestler you should know from what has been said on the andre page pro-wrestlers will take any measure to look taller when they know they will be photographed with someone very tall.
Monroe said on 11/May/07
And what evidence is that lyndon? i haven't seen anything here other than some guys testimony. and someone, i have never seen a photo where shaq looks shorter than garnett.
Arjun said on 11/May/07
For some reason, Shaq looks shorter in photos with certain wrestlers (Triple H, Hulk Hogan etc.) than he does on the court. He looks like he's barely scraping 7'0" when compared with 6'2" Triple H and (then) 6'5" max Hogan.
Anonymous said on 11/May/07
And to prove even more that Shaq isn't 6'11 1/2 here he is when he was 17-18 years old saying he was already 7 feet
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I back up my points with links...he also easily could have grown to 7'1 which is what he seems to be now.
Anonymous said on 11/May/07
LOL to all you clueless people who say 6'11 1/2 look at him with 6'11 1/4 Kevin Garnett
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In case you haven't noticed it's not Shaq saying he's 6'11 1/2 it's "someone" saying Shaq said he was 6'11 1/2
Anonymous said on 11/May/07
Give me a link to Shaq saying he's 6'11 1/2...exactly! He is 7'1
someone said on 11/May/07
any time that shaq take a photo with yao ming. shaq try to straight up body(very very very very very very straight up) for make us look him not much shorter than yao ming. I believe(really believe) if shaq wear a common basketball shoes(means a common basketball shoes soles) and common stand(not much straight up). he is 6ft 11.5 barefoot. sometimes shorter than garnett on the court....I confirm.
someone said on 11/May/07
I believe that if kevin garnett wear big(tall) shoes soles and stand very straight up like shaq.both are same height.(sometimes garnett may be taller)
ps. shaq try anyway for extend his height to make us look him taller than other players....anyway(stand very straight up at the time he stand with others one , wear only big shoes soles)....anytime.
Lyndon said on 10/May/07
Come on editor you have enough evidence to round down Shaq down to 6' 11.5"
Jordan said on 10/May/07
Anonymous, I think we have enough evidence to establish Shaq as 6'11.5 Shaq has said this himself. You should believe what he says instead of basing your opinion on some ****y photographs which most people know aren't always acurate enough to judge from.
Anonymous said on 10/May/07
Shaq is 7'1 he towers over 6'10 Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaq also towers over 6'10 Tim Duncan
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You can't tell me Shaq doesn't have atleast 3 inches on them.
Andy Turner said on 10/May/07
Duhon, I fully understand and appreciate what your saying, but it is very frustrating when I know for 110% definate what Shaq's height is but because I can't proove this to the rest of the world its getting ignored and overlooked time and time again. I am confident sooner or later the real truth will be provided for all the disputers out there. I rest my case!
Duhon said on 9/May/07
Andy, i by no means want to insult your credibility. but this is a site that works mainly on provided evidence and such. I am not calling you a liar but anyone can come here (which they often do) and post that so and so has told them this, or they met___ and they know their this tall. Without real evidence its hard to take alot of these claims seriously.
As for KG some of the pictures posted here earlier really do appear to indicate he is 6'11". look at garnett standing next to the pre draft measured barefoot height 6'8.5 amare stoudemire. he defently looks 6'11 here:
Click Here he looks taller than novitzky even.
Andy Turner said on 9/May/07
LV, with the greatest respect in the world to you, I aint disputing anything you have seen or heard but for some reason it has been cast on your mind that shaq is over 7ft and there doesn't seem to be any convincing you otherwise no matter how much real evidence is provided. Alright so Kevin said the 6'11 thing but I doubt very much that he said BAREFOOT in the same sentence. If you were to meet Shaquille in person and ask him how tall he was barefoot and he said " 6'11.5" would you turn round and say to him "no you aint you're over 7ft cos Kevin Garnett's over 6'11". If it means that every player pictured with Shaq in the NBA is 1.5 inches shorter than listed then this must be so but I swear on my brother's life SHAQUILLE O'NEAL IS 6FT 11.5 INCHES TALL. Please how much more convincing do you need? Take it easy man!
someone said on 9/May/07
in movie "steel" shaq is absolutely 6 ft 11.5 inches and in fact shaq try to straight up (very very straight up) make we look him so tall. and him shoe soles is very big that add him heights. any time that he take a photo or stand with others one. he will straight up(very stright up) to make us look him tall.
I conclusion that shaq try to make us look him tall.
- stand very very stright up to extend him height.
- wear only shoes have big soles(tall soles)...6.11.5 is ok.
LV said on 8/May/07
Andy, Craig Sager interviewed Kevin Garnett at this year's Allstar Game and when asked how tall he was he said "6'11" and some quarters". If he is self-admittedly over 6'11", then Shaq has to be over 7'.