Samuel Oluwashemire said on 6/Mar/23
Hey Rob. What do you think about this picture?
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How much of derrick rose's height is due to footwear and why does Curry look taller than Westbrook?
Editor Rob
That might be one of those photos in which the right side is at an advantage compared to the left.
Shane Gray said on 20/Nov/22
@Rob thanks
Shane Gray said on 20/Nov/22
Listed 6'3" this year on some rosters, and rightfully so.
Robbie Murphy Lee said on 16/Sep/22
A 6 inch height difference would put lil durk at 5’7 1/2 I think If you made a page for him the perfect height would be 5’7 1/4 or 5’7 1/2
Robbie Murphy Lee said on 22/Aug/22
Hey Rob here’s lil durk with d rose
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Editor Rob
Can look 6 inches shorter
Shane Gray@ said on 8/Jun/22
@Rob the intro at top of page is misleading. Rose was listed 6'3" until 2019. What you posted makes it sound like he was listed 6'2" since 2008.
Editor Rob
Changed to currently listed.
IceCold said on 2/Apr/22
Derrick Rose has higher average guess than Curry. Anyway they should be listed the same, or Stephen at best 6'1.75. And only because on this site generally not using 1/8 fractions, without measurements
Canson said on 3/Nov/21
@RJT: Rose could be around that Mark. I’d say maybe 6’1 3/8 is possible. He was almost listed 6’1”. Curry could be 6’1 5/8 perhaps and Kyrie 6’1.25” if he is
RJT said on 7/Oct/21
Curry 6'1 5/8" - 6'1.75" absolute max afternoon
Rose 6'1.5"
Irving 6'1.25"
Lillard 6'.5"
Jawilder said on 2/Oct/21
6’1.5” for 🌹. One of the unluckiest NBA players ever imo. He’s still making the most out of his situation. Gotta love the guy.
Canson said on 28/Sep/21
@Recapa: yea D Rose is close to his listing too
recapa said on 23/Sep/21
i can see curry and d-rose measuring the same at 186.7 maybe 186.5 but not lower maybe he can be 187 max on a good day otheriwse d-rose seems like a good 186.5-187 range guy.186.5-187 before bed and 188.5-189 out of bed.
Canson said on 22/Apr/21
@Editor Rob: with Rose, it could be the time of day
Canson said on 18/Apr/21
@RJT: he had him at 6’1.5 before due to his pre draft. You and Viper may be right and I could see 6’1.25 being his afternoon height.
@Editor Rob: he was initially measured closer to 6’1” in 2019 but they changed it to 6’2” later just like they did for Draymond Green and Klay Thompson along with Chris Paul 6’0.25” rounded to 6’1 last season before being brought down to 6’0” this season. 6’1.25 for an afternoon is more likely maybe 6’1 3/8 lunch but 6’1.25 is consistent
Editor Rob
It would be interesting to see some measurements take place for NBA, to see how they are doing it and with what equipment.
Canson said on 17/Apr/21
@Editor Rob: he did measure closer to 6’1” in 2019
@RJT and Viper: he increased it due to how he looked with Griezmann. I agree with Both of you. Next to Carmelo
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viper said on 15/Apr/21
Sorry Rob, you had him listed right at
6-1 1/4
RJT said on 13/Apr/21
Why the upgrade? Not that 1/4" matters much though :)
Editor Rob
Looking again, I think the 1.5 might still be fair and could measure it...
Canson said on 21/Nov/20
@Editor Rob: he may dip under at an extreme low depending on whether he’s 6’1” or 6’1.25 at a low
Lewis Edward said on 30/Oct/20
Hi Rob, what would Rose's absolute bass be in your opinion?
Editor Rob
Not unde r 6ft 1 anyway
Canson said on 1/Oct/20
@Junior: I would guessed more than that
5.9 legit guy said on 5/May/20
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186 cm guy confirmed
Here is him with 6ft 1/2 Irving and 6ft flat Dame Lillard
Canson said on 17/Mar/20
@Junior: that’s a good estimate
Jean214 said on 15/Mar/20
@viper
I bet it was thé morning so D was 6'1.75 at that Times(187) and maybe laying down just before the measurement to get near 6'2 + a thick pair of shoes and he Can get it .
I think he wouldnt be listes under 6'3 since there is the Top listing for a PG in the Nba
Measured 6'1 in 2019, he is probably a strong one (6'1.25,186) because in 2008 he get 6'1.5 without shoes.
So 186cm for DRose
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 16/Feb/20
Rose is 3/8th inch taller than Dame.
Canson said on 11/Jan/20
viper said on 16/Oct/19
Lillard is nowhere close to 6-1.75
He measured 6-1.5 morning at the combine, probably 6-1 3/8 rounded up.
So how can he be 6-1.75?
Because people here like making people taller. I don’t know I guess taller= better to some. Not you or I of course. And there are rare instances when someone grows like Anthony Davis and Tristan Thompson possibly but most don’t grow after hitting 18
Canson said on 7/Jan/20
That’s because Wall isn’t 6’2 3/4. Wall is noticeably shorter than the “max” 6’3” Bradley Beal. Keep in mind that the measurements occur early morning but Wall’s is questionable whereas Beal’s really isn’t. He looked about 6’3” to people who I know have met him. Wall is more 6’2 flat if that
viper said on 7/Jan/20
Wall looks shorter than his measured height
Que lo Que said on 5/Jan/20
Doesn't get dwarfed by the the 6'2 3/4 john wall so definetely six two
Canson said on 28/Dec/19
@Rob: maybe he should get the 1/4” upgrade to 6’1.25 since he’s got a 6’2” listing? But it is possible that he’s only 6’1” afternoon height. One thing is for sure that Dwyane Wade is overlisted here because he’s clearly not 2-2.5” taller than Rose. Wade should be listed no higher than 6’3”
Editor Rob
maybe it is fairer
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 23/Dec/19
I guess Deron William worth an add. Similar to Rose height maybe 1/4 edge on Rose.
Canson said on 15/Dec/19
He’s listed 6’2 this year
Canson said on 19/Nov/19
@Johnson: Ibaka is but Wall may not have been measured. He’s still injured. Other injured players did but maybe he’s an exception or they misreported
Canson said on 19/Nov/19
@Johnson and Shane: he’s listed 6’2 with a 6’1.5 pre draft and Kemba Walker is 6’0” with a 5’11.5 morning measurement. Walker was measured at 5’11 according to him. Rose was supposedly only measured 6’1 this year and is listed 6’2.
Canson said on 19/Nov/19
Shane Gray said on 23/Oct/19
@Johnson we only have some true barefoot listings. Many are not. There are lots of fake ones. Why? Because nba forced this policy on teams and players. They dont like it and didnt want it. And then the nba let teams self report the heights while not overseeing it. So they are unreliable.
Actually I believe he was measured 6’1” afternoon or 6’1+ and got a 6’1.5 round up morning or 6’1.75 morning. It could be what you said too but either way I doubt he’s really 6’2”
Nik said on 1/Nov/19
@ Shane Gray - Thanks for that, what you have said is very interesting! It looks like Derrick could claim his hat height! 🎩
I am delighted to give him his 250th comment!
Canson said on 24/Oct/19
@Shane: you couldn’t have said it any better. I played through college and that’s how guys I played ball with think. Most of my teammates even if they claim barefoot heights they aren’t afternoon. Maybe a few and some of the others claim shoe heights still. A guy probably the same size as Jdubbz or Junior maybe even marginally less (-2mm) claims 6’7” still. Yes 6’6” plus morning height and a 6’6@ claim is fine since he’s close enough but not 6’7” and he still inflates everyone almost 20 years later
Shane Gray said on 23/Oct/19
@Johnson we only have some true barefoot listings. Many are not. There are lots of fake ones. Why? Because nba forced this policy on teams and players. They dont like it and didnt want it. And then the nba let teams self report the heights while not overseeing it. So they are unreliable.
Shane Gray said on 23/Oct/19
@Nik he has claimed his shoe height before. I've seen it. Its common for basketball players as that's all they've ever been listed at so they often think of that as their true height.
Jackson said on 22/Oct/19
New official height on NBA site is 6’2”
Johnson said on 22/Oct/19
NBA lists him 6'2.
@Rob all NBA players have been updated now on official website!!!
After all rumours we have definitive listings, although, in the case of John Wall and Serge Ibaka are listed taller there must be an error
Nik Ashton said on 19/Oct/19
@ Rob - When did he claim to be 6’3”? 🐘🎩!
Editor Rob
It was listed
Here a few years back.
talha227 said on 18/Oct/19
Why did you downgrade him from 6'1.5 to 6'1 barefoot. Average guess is 6'2" I think rose should get at least a 6'1.5" or 6'1.75" listing back
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 17/Oct/19
Rose had a head that well fit into 5'11 guy. 185cm a low and get guess at 6'2.06 is too high
Canson said on 17/Oct/19
@Viper: Lillard is shorter than Karlie Kloss and I think he had more footwear if I’m correct? I haven’t seen the pic for a while. Lillard looks 6’0” and change best case. All other 6’3” listed point guards look considerably taller. Steph D Rose Westbrook Dragic etc. wall should be in there too because he’s not any taller than those guys. In fact I’d bet money Russ and Dragic are taller
Canson said on 17/Oct/19
@Viper: Griffin looks what I’ve said all along. A weak 6’8”. Drummond was 6’9.75 early morning.
viper said on 16/Oct/19
Rose looks 6-0 here.
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viper said on 16/Oct/19
Same guy with 6-1 Leveon Bell.
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viper said on 16/Oct/19
This 6-1 guy has pictures with everyone and Derrick Rose is shorter than him
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6-1 measured Matt Forte looks a bit taller.
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6-1 Roger Federer looks taller.
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viper said on 16/Oct/19
And Lillard is shorter than 6-1
Westbrook is 6-2
viper said on 16/Oct/19
Lillard is nowhere close to 6-1.75
He measured 6-1.5 morning at the combine, probably 6-1 3/8 rounded up.
So how can he be 6-1.75?
Shane Gray said on 12/Oct/19
@Canson I looked up every Kings player and found all but one or two. Most had nba combines and I found 2 guys from this year who were at portsmouth invitational (I'm sure you know what that is) where the people who didnt get combine invites go before the draft. Believe me when I tell you your be shocked by the numbers for most of their team. Keep In mind kings submitted exact same roster as last year and said that was their final roster.
Canson said on 11/Oct/19
@Shane: yea I sure did and was wrong. Hield At 6’4” doesn’t surprise me. He was supposed to be around 6’3.75 morning height at combine so he prob is a strong 6’3 (6’3.25) at a low. He was said to be “expected to measure” a hair over 6’3” when he came out and that’s prob what he is in the afternoon
Shane Gray said on 11/Oct/19
@Canson Buddy Hield is still 6'4" listing. I'm surprised you are going with unsubstantiated stuff like that my friend. Kings submitted their updated roster and he didnt drop. Neither did Bagley etc.
And NOBODY is rounding anyone down lol.
But there are plenty obvious round ups and flat out fake barefoot heights already wayyy above barefoot heights.
Shane Gray said on 11/Oct/19
There are no official reports of Rose measuring 6'1". I dont understand why people keep using unsubstantiated rumors.
Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 9/Oct/19
Surprise with the downgrade but from my old time estimate for Rose is accurately 6'1.
viper said on 8/Oct/19
Doesn't seem like Jerry West has shrunk any
viper said on 8/Oct/19
6-2 Jerry West looking the same height as Rose.
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West has the audacity to claim 6-4.5 lol
viper said on 8/Oct/19
Kemba Walker is no taller than 5-11
viper said on 8/Oct/19
IMO I think Rose was measured almost exactly the same here.
6-1 3/8 the first time.
6-1 1/4 this time
Canson said on 7/Oct/19
@Viper: so that being said everything you and I and also Christian have said all along is accurate about some pre drafts being way off and also morning heights. I wish D Wade we’re still playing. Bet just like Buddy Hield he would have a 6’3” listing. You see Kemba Walker. He was measured 5’11” at first in training camp then changed to 6’0”. Wonder if he was measured in the AM when they adjusted it
Canson said on 7/Oct/19
@Viper: this one doesn’t surprise me as much. He is a good 5” shorter than Melo but on the other hand I’m not so sure all of these are morning measurements and in many cases I wonder if they were rounded down if half or under
viper said on 7/Oct/19
He supposedly measured 6-1 now
Canson said on 20/Jun/19
Max 6’1.5 min 6’1.25
@Viper: and even tho it was an afternoon measurement there’s no guarantee it’s a low if he didn’t lay down but it looks close for him. I really don’t think 6’1 flat
Canson said on 20/Jun/19
Max 6’1.5 min 6’1.25
@Viper: and even tho it was an afternoon measurement there’s no guarantee it’s a low
Nik said on 17/Jun/19
6'1.5" without sneakers or a hat!
viper said on 9/Jun/19
His measurement could have been 6-1 3/8
rounded up to 6-1.5
Nik said on 9/Jun/19
Rob's got the right idea! 🎩!
cmillzz said on 7/Jun/19
I don’t understand why the average guess is 6’2.14 when he got measured 6’1.5
Canson said on 15/May/19
@Shane: I think for Rose that he’s about the height Rob lists him at a normal low. He looks around 5” shorter than Melo. Maybe he dips to 6’1.25-6’1 3/8 but that’s much closer than some other players are listed here. Rose is similar to Steph Curry In height. Both guys are shorter than a guy like Russell Westbrook who at worst doesn’t fall below 6’2” at any point but is more likely to be a strong 6’2” guy. I agree with russ’s pre draft listing and see that as a low for him here on the site. I would go with 6’2.25 as opposed to 6’2.5
Canson said on 15/May/19
@Shane: I think for Rose that he’s about the height Rob lists him at a normal low. He looks around 5” shorter than Melo. Maybe he dips to 6’1.25-6’1 3/8 but that’s much closer than some other players are listed here
Canson said on 15/May/19
@Shane: my bad. I definitely agree with 6’2 3/8 for Merriman. That looks like it’s what he would measure. That could be near a low or it could be an earlier in the day and he may dip to 6’2 flat based on how he looks with Martellus Bennett (6’6 1/8 at the combine) and 6’5.75 the other time he was measured
Shane said on 4/Apr/19
@Canson actually 6'4" in high school but typically 6'3" in college.
Shane said on 20/Mar/19
@Canson what do you credit for Merriman having such a tall measurement for at his combine? Was it supposed to be 6'2 3/8" rather than 6'4 3/8"?
As for Rose, as you probably know, he was listed 6'4" in high school and college. Likely a "by player request" listing.
Canson said on 18/Feb/19
@Junior: the only thing I will say is that if he measured that then he isn’t taller than it
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 18/Feb/19
Click Here This will help some people remember certain players of 08" drafted measurements.
Canson said on 11/Oct/18
As listed. Looks 2.5” shorter than Bogans who is 6’4” in person
Canson said on 13/Jul/18
Agreed Junior! 186-186.5 poss
Canson said on 3/Jul/18
@Christian: agreed. If he’s not then maybe he’s 6’1.25 but doubt less
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 2/Jul/18
6'2 with vans sneakers. 186-ish.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 11/Jun/18
@Canson
Rose may very well be a player who got measured close to his low, like Westbrook and Carmelo.
Canson said on 10/Jun/18
Max 6’1.5, maybe just 6’1 3/8 at a low
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 26/May/18
@Lkk
He was measured 6'1.5", the 6'2.15" average guess is ridiculous.
Canson said on 26/May/18
He’s no higher than he’s listed
Lkk said on 24/May/18
6'2 at worst
AlexjordN5 said on 20/Feb/18
Looks slighter taller than Kyrie 6’1.75 he looks
Canson said on 12/Feb/18
I can agree to disagree. I stated my opinion and you stated yours after you disagreed with mine.
Jordanpercyy said on 12/Feb/18
I respect your opinion I just think 6’0.5 is to low he’s 6’0.75 that’s the lowest I will say he is 184.8-185 flat.
Canson said on 11/Feb/18
@Jordanpercy: if you look at him next to the other guys he’s struggling to look 6’1” same with kloss. I got the term
Busting a Gut from rob. He made mention to it adding. That it not the same as standing as straight as possible. Karlie may be 6’1.5 but she does not have much of a “camera advantage”. She is listed 185cm elsewhere however so not sure which is accurate. Rob (in fairness to him) will give someone the benefit of the doubt before he undercuts them. There are plenty of listings here that are inflated some more than others. Shawne Merriman is a prime example. He’s not anything close to 6’4”. His pro day shows 6’2” and his Senior Bowl 6’2.4 combine 6’4 3/8 so people assume because it’s the “Combine” that it’s the true height but it’s not. That’s evident when he stands next to others. As for Klosd She’s clearly just taller than Lillard. Look at lillard next to Westbrook or Kyrie Rose curry etc and he doesn’t look 6’1. That’s my opinion so if you disagree that’s fine.
Canson said on 11/Feb/18
@Jordanpercy: if you look at him next to the other guys he’s struggling to look 6’1” same with kloss. I got the term
Busting a Gut from rob. He made mention to it adding. That it not the same as standing as straight as possible
Jordanpercy said on 9/Feb/18
I meant relax because I agree with you he’s shorter than what’s he’s listed but 6’0.5 is to low and your suppose to stand as straight as possible when getting measured so this
Bust a Gut thing sounds kinda dumb, I seen the video of rob with the
Bust a Gut and it bearley ads any height if not at all. He was measured 6’1.75 do the math Canson he’s 6’1 flat but if he drops a little more lowest is 6’0.75 and Karlie is 6’1.5 that’s what rob listed her on here she had footware advantage and the camera favoured her too.
Canson said on 7/Feb/18
@Jordanpercy: I don’t get what you mean by relax? That’s my estimate for him. Seems as if the “relax” is said on this site or some type of expression because People believe a celeb is shorter than how someone has him listed. However if They were saying he’s 6’2” there wouldn’t be a “relax” said. Why does it only work with a downgrade and not an upgrade is my thing? And that’s Based on how he looks with others such as Karlie Kloss and also with the other 6’3” listed point guards in the NBA. Sure he was a morning measurement as the only ones listed 6’3 that I actually believe their barefoot heights are Rose and Westbrook both look 6’1.5 and 6’2.25. 6’1.75 could easily be a
Bust a Gut measurement in the AM. Now with kloss I will admit I can’t see footwear but if she is 185cm she is taller than him still even if the camera favors her it’s still an advantage. But yes a typical 6’1.75 morning height (at that hour) would actually mean more like 6’1.25 which Lillard clearly doesn’t look to me
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Jordanpercy said on 7/Feb/18
I meant to fall to 6’0.5
Jordanpercy said on 6/Feb/18
Canson relax 6’0.5 is to low for Lillard I personally think he’s 6’1 flat or at worst 185 6’0.75 he was a morning measurement and measured 6’1.75 it’s impossible for him to fall to 6’0.75.
Johnson said on 26/Jan/18
Please can you post the pictures of Rubio and Rose????
Canson said on 24/Jan/18
He’s taller than Rubio. Rose is likely close to 6’1.5 Rubio prob 6’1. How he’s listed 6’4” is very strange as he’s shorter than a lot of 6’3” listed guys such as Westbrook and Rose for example
Jordankkng said on 22/Jan/18
Dross is taller than Rubio I saw the rookie photos
Canson said on 19/Jan/18
@Johnson: to what you said about Rubio I watched the Jazz Knicks game and they said in the first quarter that Rubio told them he is only 6’1”. That makes sense with D Rose now
Canson said on 29/Dec/17
@Johnson: imho Rose looks the same with Gordon and Hinrich as he did then. Same with Kobe and other players. He doesn’t look any taller maybe the camera angles appear that way but I have to believe Max on this one. Rose looks the same 6’1.5 as his drafted height with Russell Westbrook. Both drafted in same class and about a 2cm diff between them which explains why Curry looks as tall as people think he is because the former two were measured in the afternoon in 08 whereas curry was a morning measurement in 09. Curry and Rose are likely neck and neck or if one has a difference on the other it’s minimal. I would’ve prob put Curry a hair taller but seeing what Max said maybe not. But that means Curry is really 6’1” range as a measurement an hour out of bed or less is not a true indication of your height. Afternoon is what you measure the majority of the day
Max said on 18/Dec/17
Yeah Johnson he does look 186.7 at his lowest he even looks 187 at times.
Johnson said on 17/Dec/17
Watching the pictures of Draft 2008. Derrick Rose looked his draft height 186.7. He stands with OJ Mayo and Jerryd Bayless
But the totally adult Derrick Rose looks taller in pictures
Jack said on 11/Dec/17
@Agreed Canson.
Canson said on 11/Dec/17
@Max: I admire your honesty. I respect Johnson but he inflates a lot of people especially when it’s a soccer player that that person is in a picture with. It’s a bit silly, more like ridiculous to say Rose is 189 when he was supposedly measured 6’1.5 especially when the NBA just like most sports is inaccurate in some cases with pre drafts. Not to mention he thinks every player grows after being drafted. He’s said Melo did Rose and Steph curry which is beyond ridiculous. Maybe 1 out of 3 but not all. could buy 6’1.5 or 6’1.25 for Rose. The latter to me makes sense too seeing as how he’s 3-3.5” shorter than Kobe Bryant and about 5” less than Carmelo Anthony both of whom Johnson has inflated at some stage. He’s convinced Anthony is 200cm when I’ve met him. Easy to tell when I have a 6’6 and 6’7 friend who I regularly spend time around and my 6’7” friend is noticeably taller than Melo and Melo looks almost how my 6’6 friend is next to me as 1/4” or less isn’t noticeable, not to mention at least 5 people said he was 1.5-2” taller than me and I’m about 6’4.25-.5. Id put Melo right at his pre draft of 6’6.25.
One thing I have to mention tho just because you like someone isn’t a reason to make them taller like when you said you would like him to be 6’2. They shouldn’t have anything to do with one another
Canson said on 11/Dec/17
@Max: I admire your honesty. I respect Johnson but he inflates a lot of people especially when it’s a soccer player that that person is in a picture with. It’s a bit silly, more like ridiculous to say Rose is 189 when he was supposedly measured 6’1.5 especially when the NBA just like most sports is inaccurate in some cases with pre drafts. Not to mention he thinks every player grows after being drafted. He’s said Melo did Rose and Steph curry which is beyond ridiculous. Maybe 1 out of 3 but not all. could buy 6’1.5 or 6’1.25 for Rose. The latter to me makes sense too seeing as how he’s 3-3.5” shorter than Kobe Bryant and about 5” less than Carmelo Anthony both of whom Johnson has inflated at some stage. He’s convinced Anthony is 200cm when I’ve met him. Easy to tell when I have a 6’6 and 6’7 friend who I regularly spend time around and my 6’7” friend is noticeably taller than Melo and Melo looks almost how my 6’6 friend is next to me as 1/4” or less isn’t noticeable, not to mention at least 5 people said he was 1.5-2” taller than me and I’m about 6’4.25-.5. Id put Melo right at his pre draft of 6’6.25.
Max said on 7/Dec/17
@Johnson I'm 189.2 met rose both wore Adidas slides he was about 2.8-2.6 cm less then me and that's the truth I like derrick rose and would love to say he's 6foot2 but I have to be honest he's in the 6'1.25-6'1.5 range as Canson said.
Canson said on 6/Dec/17
@Johnson: Max on Kyrie Irving’s page met Rose and put him as 6’1.5 (186.4minimum at his lowest). Rose has a footwear advantage on Griezzman here so maybe it’s about a 6” difference. Griezzman isn’t over 5’7.5 max
Johnson said on 4/Dec/17
No less than 16 cm of difference between Griezmann and Rose in the pictures
Flat fleet on flat ground
Johnson said on 4/Dec/17
Rose footwear advantage of 1 cm
Sneakers 3 cm vs sneakers 2 cm Griezmann... nothing more
Canson said on 3/Dec/17
If anything Griezzman deserves a downgrade. Rose is minimum 5” shorter than 6’6.25 Carmelo Anthony. He’s below his eyebrows.
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Canson said on 3/Dec/17
@Johnson: Rose has a footwear advantage too
Canson said on 1/Dec/17
186 max at night imho
Jack said on 1/Dec/17
@Rob do you think he holds 187cm before he goes to bed?
Anonymous said on 1/Dec/17
Looks 6foot2
Jordan king said on 24/Nov/17
@Rob Rob do you think hes hes closer to 187.3 rather than 186.7
Editor Rob
earlier in the day, but by lunchtime I don't think he's almost 6ft 2
Johnson said on 11/Nov/17
Rose is almost a head shorter than Pau Gasol. Not quite.
If you compare Mike Conley and Marc. You can see Conley is shorter. And Marc is a little shorter than Pau Gasol
Conley is a head and a little under shorter than Marc Gasol
Canson said on 5/Nov/17
He’s no higher than 186-187 range no less than 185-186. He’s likely just a strong 6’1 at best
Jordan said on 3/Nov/17
Derrick rose is 6foot1.5 to 6foot1.75 nothing under that.
John said on 2/Nov/17
Rob any chance he’s a full 6’2 right now ?
Editor Rob
he can certainly look near enough it
Canson said on 25/Oct/17
@Junior I agree with Johnson. I don’t think lilliard is even 6’1. Looks 6’.75. Rose could be 6’1.25 at his lowest
Johnson said on 24/Oct/17
@Junior my friend, Rose looks a little bit taller than Lillard if you google them together
Junior said on 24/Oct/17
Rose probably grow a fraction since drafted at 19 years old. Look the same height as 6'1.75" Damian Lillard noting less. If they get measured in the morning in draft camp they should be 186cm before bed.
Canson said on 18/Oct/17
@Rob: yes that is what I have been saying all along to Johnson and it happens very often as Gordon does appear taller than Hinrich in one pic. Then the same in another.
My whole takeaway @Johnson is that the pic isn’t reliable enough to be saying Rose is taller than Heinrich is. It’s very difficult to gauge height differences accurately within maybe an inch and even harder when the guys are in a pic like that. I find it extremely hard to believe rose would grow 1.25 or more when he’s 19. That is a bit foolish. Hinrich in person may only be 189 I had him around 2”. He’s same category as Phelps is also had him by 2” but was easier to tell then because my wife also said it was 2” herself. Again Derrick Rose is supposed to have measured 6’1.5. I can guarantee you that 90% or more of measurements are rounded up at least 1/4” or so and even more if the person is shorter than average for their position. With two people having met him on this page and the pics I see with Kobe or Lebron etc I can’t see him over maybe a flat 6’1” and certainly not any higher than 186cm. 190 would make him taller than Russell Westbrook and he is not that tall.
Canson said on 13/Oct/17
@Rob/ Johnson: but in the pic that I reproduced that Johnson initially posted Gordon is clearly taller than Hinrich. Now I don’t believe that is true but my takeaway from this and point was that these pics are not the best for comparing height especially if Hinrich can now look shorter than Gordon in one and the same height in another. The first one to be honest I can tell who is taller if I didn’t see them play or know their measurements. Their shoulders are dead even and head. In the 2nd pic Gordon does look taller then hinrich. His eye level is higher and the only advantage Heinrich has is his hair being thicker. Otherwise Gordon looks taller. The only one where Hinrich is clearly taller is the very last pick. I ageee with rob that hinrich and rose are both taller than Gordon because I’ve seen them play before but to say rose is taller than Hinrich by using one of these terrible pictures that skews them is not a good way to compare them. These pics are all theee that Johnson posted a week or so ago and all three have diff results
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Editor Rob
sometimes a portrait shot can enhance differences, I feel it probably did in the first instance. Sometimes the lens has barrel distortion too.
Canson said on 12/Oct/17
My guesses:
Gordon 6’0.5-6’1
Rose 6’1-6’1.5
Hinrich 6’2 range 6’2.5 max looked similar in height with Jarrett Jack honestly. May edge him but it’s little if anything
Johnson said on 11/Oct/17
@Rob
according to the pic Canson posted 10th October. Who is taller Rose or Gordon?, I mean just if we only had that pic
Editor Rob
from what I've seen Rose looks taller than Gordon, Hinrich taller than Gordon too.
But some photos might enhance/reduce, if there's several photos of two people together, sometimes it gives us a better idea.
Canson said on 10/Oct/17
@Johnson: if you take into account hinrich’s hair or not Gordon is still taller with much less hair. You do realize there is a huge difference in the amount of hair they have below? Now I doubt it is true but the point that I am making is that your pics here are no good because of that fact. Hinrich id be surprised if he is less than 188-189. Gordon looks 184-185. Like I said you have one pic with Gordon taller than Hinrich that you originally posted and that is reposted below. Take a look and If you tell me he doesn’t appear taller or that Heinrich is it means you are biased or aren’t able to tell a difference. In other pics they are even and in the one hinrich is taller. That’s all I am saying. Like I have been saying you for some reason are upgrading Derrick Rose because of how much shorter he makes a lot of people namely the soccer players you claim to have received info from about their heights from a club. Rose measured 6’1.5 and if we have two posters below saying he isn’t it’s likely true but I digress. I will give him that max at his lowest still is shorter than kirk.
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Jack said on 10/Oct/17
@Carson lol hinrich is still taller than Gordan in that photo and now your talking about seeing feet in photos, bro all your photos where you claim rose is shorter you can't even see there feet.
Johnson said on 9/Oct/17
@Canson
Where do you see Gordon taller than Hinrich?? In that pic you post I see Hinrich taller than him
I respect your opinion that Gordon and Rose are both 6'1 on the dot
But seriously I don't believe it
Canson said on 8/Oct/17
@Jack: look at Johnson’s pics with the Olympic team. We obviously cannot see footwear or the ground there. Yet you would probably still use those pics to justify it it if it makes rose the height you want him to be. So what’s your next excuse gonna be?
Canson said on 8/Oct/17
@Johnson: you just said it is obvious that Gordon is the shortest of the 3. However I’m using one of the pics you posted below where he is clearly taller than Hinrich. So no I can’t tell that he’s the shortest of the 3 based on this pic. And you haven’t established a thing because Your arguments are all centered on making Rose taller. So again you contradicted yourself. You just lost credibility with your argument by making that statement. It also proves my points about the pics you have posted here. If Gordon appears taller than kirk here then rose can easily appear taller than Hinrich when in reality he is not as tall.
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Jack said on 7/Oct/17
@Carson all you photos don't even show their feet, kobe and d Rose can't see there feet, Carmelo and d Rose can't see there feet. atleast Johnson shows photos where you can see the players ****ing feet. And a lot of people grow after 18, there is more then 7 billion people on earth and your telling me that barley anyone grows after 18 you must be stupid or just jelious that you stopped growing at 12.
Johnson said on 6/Oct/17
188 for Rose as evening low height is not something crazy. I would buy it. And 189 during the morning
Johnson said on 6/Oct/17
@Jack look at the pics I posted of Curry and Rose with Wall
In my opinion Curry is shorter than Rose
My predictions
Hinrich taller than Rose very slightly. And Rose taller than Gordon. It is obvious
@Canson it is very obvious Gordon is the shorter ot those 3. It does not have nothing to do with Griezmann. It is what I believe.
Your pics of Paul George and Carmelo Anthony are poor because they are not together in a row. The ones I post with Rose Gordon and Hinrich are aligned. There is an angle but it is not so difficult to realize
My prediction is Rose 189. Hinrich measured at 189.9 sounds good. Wall is 190 and measured on that mark. Curry the shorter of the lot. That is what I see.
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
@Johnson: you just contradicted yourself with the hinrich and Gordon pics. You proved my point of what I had said before that these types pics are no good. You posted one where Gordon appears taller than hinrich one where he is the same and one where he appears shorter. Then the pics with rose one where rose looks half inch taller as he should and one where he looks a lot taller because he is favored by the camera. Bottom line hinrich has more difference with Gordon than Rose does. Quit trying to upgrade Rose for no reason
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
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Rose with 6’4.75 Kobe doesn’t even look his 6’1.5
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
@Jack: a lot of people do not grow after 18.
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
hinrich with Gordon. Hinrich has more of a difference with Gordon than rose does
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Canson said on 6/Oct/17
@Johnson: ok so you posted a pic where Hinrich looks shorter? That should either imply that Hinrich isn’t as tall as he is listed (he is at least 6’2” barefoot I know for a fact) or that gordon (who was 21 when he came out) grew. What are the odds both Gordon and rose grew? That’s not only foolish but also stupid. The other solution and scenario is that the picture is no good which is the case with all of the pics you posted with Hinrich and rose. Rose is not as tall as Hinrich. If you say my pic with Melo is no good neither are any of the ones you posted. Don’t care if you can see footwear or not common sense says Hinrich is taller than Gordon and he is.
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
@Johnson: that’s half inch difference between rose and Gordon. That’s what it comes out to 6’1” and 6’1.5. Again Melo next to Rose makes him no more than 186cm. You want so badly for rose to have grown which he didn’t just to make Antoine Griezzman taller. Rose would be listed 6’4” if he were really 190cm. The more likely solution is that the difference with he and Hinrich isn’t as easy to tell because they are within an inch of each other.
Canson said on 6/Oct/17
@Jack: again what are their pre draft measurements? Rose is 6’1.5 and Hinrich is 6’2.75. That is enough there to believe it. The pics he posted mean nothing. When two people are within an inch of each other you can’t tell a thing with those types of pics. And I never said I met Rose. Why don’t You go learn how to comprehend what you read. I said Melo and Melo is his draft height. You and Johnson both have a fetish with upgrading people for some reason
Johnson said on 6/Oct/17
Aaron Brooks, Hinrich and Rose
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@Rob don't you think looking all the last pictures Rose deserves a little upgrade?
Jack said on 5/Oct/17
Also Carson I don't believe people when they say they met him without physical proof.
Jack said on 5/Oct/17
Also the photo with melo is terrible you can't see there feet, melo has his head up and he's closer to the camera and derrick rose is not even standing up straight.
Jack said on 5/Oct/17
If you type derrick rose next to Kirk hinrich you will see he's clearly the same height if not slightly taller there's, a photo of Kirk, d rose and 5'10.5 without shoes Aaron brooks and rose looks taller then Kirk and 4 inches taller then Aaron brooks,proof is right there. Rose needs an upgrade he and Paul George both grew after 18 alot of people grow after 18. Carson the photos that Johnson has shown are legit they are photo shoot photos both players are standing on the same level of ground derrick rose is taller than this.
Jack said on 5/Oct/17
Derrick rose is the same height as Kirk
Canson said on 5/Oct/17
@Johnson: fair enough. If the pic with Melo isn’t good neither is yours. So we have to go off pre drafts and they are 6’6.25 and 6’1.5
Canson said on 5/Oct/17
The pic wth Melo is a better pic it’s clearer and even. On the court hintich is taller than rose as is Melo. I don’t know for George. The pic with rose and hinrich is not a good pic to judge height. No offense but you have always wanted rose to be taller just because he makes the soccer players you compare him to the height they claim or taller
Johnson said on 5/Oct/17
If the pics I put are not good also the pic of Rose and Carmelo not rwaching the eyebrows can not be good...
Anyway I don't understand why they say Paul George grew up since the predraft measure...
Canson said on 4/Oct/17
@Johnson: even when they played together Kirk was listed 6'4 rose 6'3".
Canson said on 4/Oct/17
@johnson: using your pics I don't but others I do. Your pics aren't good for comparing height. Again refer to George and Melo Melo looks taller when he isn't
Canson said on 4/Oct/17
@johnson: using your pics I don't but others I do. Your pics aren't good for comparing height.
Johnson said on 3/Oct/17
@Canson Paul George was measured 6'7.75
I thought he looked that height. I would have not guessed taller than that. I don't why they report he grew up one inch taller
Canson said on 2/Oct/17
@Johnson: 190 is not humanly possible. He doesn't even come to melo's eyebrows. A forhead is typically 4". I met Hinrich and thought he looked closer to 6'2" than 6'3" but have said here I'll give him 6'2.5 maybe I was right with 6'2" as he looks taller than rose but not by a lot
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Canson said on 2/Oct/17
@Johnson: not sure what time they are done each year. I do know that 2008 and 09 were specifically mentioned and in 15 it was a tweet from buddy hield at 630.
As for derrick Rose that isnt possible as he is 5" shorter than Carmelo is. Melo is 6'6-6'6.25. No chance rose is 190. He isn't as tall as Hinrich is. He is shorter than Westbrook too and Russ is 189. That would imply he grew a lot from when he was drafted and when you have people below saying that they met him and barely looks 6'1" means he grew 2" which would have been highly publicized if he had like it was for Paul George. Most people don't grow over 18. And He isn't as tall as phelps either or steph curry. People here say barely 6'1" I think he can look similar to christiano renaldo in height honestly.
Johnson said on 1/Oct/17
The early measurements are only 2009 or 2010, 2011 and ahead also are very early?
Johnson said on 1/Oct/17
Well perhaps not taller due to angle but Rose would be the same height as Hinrich
Canson said on 27/Sep/17
@Johnson and Simmonds Jefferson:
This is your answer as to why Rose looks as tall as Curry at times. Keep in mind Curry tweeted at 630am and the NBA doesn't do 1/8" increments. Curry was drafted in 09 Rose 08.
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Canson said on 27/Sep/17
@Jack: so how is 6'6.25 Carmelo Anthony 5" taller than Rose? Why don't you show me a picture of you receiving your diploma or GED
DROSE said on 23/Sep/17
Think he’s now a full 6’2
Jack said on 22/Sep/17
Carson don't be an idiot derrick is 187-188 lowest is 186.8 he's nothing under that stop downgrading, him for no reason and I want to see proof that you met him with photos your just full of shut I bet you not even 6'4
Canson said on 31/Aug/17
@Simmons: rose is 6'1-6'1.5. I've met Phelps Jarrett Jack and Carmelo Anthony. It helps out that others have met rose and say he's 6'1" maybe not even 6'1.5. He doesn't look that tall with Melo. Melo is accurately listed maybe he's within the 1/4" he's listed 6'6-6'6.25 as he edged me by 1.5-2". I'm 6'4 1/4-3/8 at night.and Rose is not as tall as Phelps or Curry. Phelps I met in AC years back he's at worst a strong 6'2" curry was measured at 630am and to say he was a dead on 6'2" we will never know. That could've been a
Bust a Gut or a round up from maybe 6'1.8 in the morning. Curry looks usually 186-186.5 at best. The warriors GM has gone as far as to say that Draymond is the third shortest player he has and Kerr and Gentry have said he's 6'5" he has curry by 3-4". He isn't as tall as Russell Westbrook or phelps or Jarrett Jack (also have met and played against Jack and he's the same size roughly as phelps is). People inflating rose and saying he grew like Johnson is doing is just foolish it's just to keep others here listed the way that they are. Common sense should say when you have to upgrade predrafts which are often overlisted by a fraction as is that something is up
simmons jefferosn said on 10/Aug/17
How is he 186.7 if hes the same height as Michael phelps and is taller if not the same height as curry he is 188-189 derrick rose.
alec collins said on 1/Aug/17
I highly doubt that you sat with derrick rose or even met him and talked about his height, no basketball shoe gives you 3.5-4cm max is 2.5cm but even that's highly rare and don't forget some people don't stop growing until the age of 24, he is defiantly 189cm and Russell westbrook is 191-192 he grew also.
feez said on 29/Jul/17
Rob, what is your estimation for Joakim Noah. He always looked 6"10 for me. His father is listed at 6'4 but in fact he can't be over 6'1"
James edwood said on 29/Jul/17
He grew since he was measured, defiantly 189cm
james ivan said on 20/Jul/17
d rose you are my idol i know that your height is 1.91m
@Johnson: that's a fair opinion however it's an assumption. But the pics, Please tell me you're joking! Phelps is clearly taller than Rose and he's leaning in the first link. It's very obvious. Rose was listed In the books at 6'1.5" barefoot at the combine and he's shorter than Westbrook who is 6'2.25 and Curry and Jarrett Jack. Never met Russ or Curry or Ross but Jack yes and he is 188-189 cm. Phelps yes he is 189cm range for sure. So no way Curry is 189 if that's the case
ma said on 5/Jul/17
Phelphs is 189 cm
Rose (from the picture posted by Johnson,I don't know this guy) looks 186 or weak 187 cm
around 1 inc shorter than Phelps
Johnson said on 30/Jun/17
More opinions people?? What do you guys see? Is Phelps or Rose taller? How much difference?
Canson said on 29/Jun/17
@Johnson: that's a fair opinion however it's an assumption. But the pics, Please tell me you're joking! Phelps is clearly taller than Rose and he's leaning in the first link. It's very obvious. Rose was listed In the books at 6'1.5" barefoot at the combine and he's shorter than Westbrook who is 6'2.25 and Curry and Jarrett Jack. Never met Russ or Curry or Ross but Jack yes and he is 188-189 cm. Phelps yes he is 189cm range for sure. So no way Curry is 189 if that's the case
Johnson said on 29/Jun/17
@Canson I only bring on pics that I can find. I found this one
Derrick Rose is 1.89
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Sorry but that is what I think, the same way I think Cristiano Ronaldo is a weak 186. I strongly think that if Derrick Rose would pose with Cristiano Ronaldo, Rose would have no less 3 cm on him with the same footwear
Canson said on 29/Jun/17
@Christian: yea I think the same as what Height said. He has a possibility of 6'4.5 but no higher no less than 6'4. I'd say strong 6'4". I do agree with SJH tho as well.
@Height: agree on both and Lavar def looks 6'5/6'6 too
Canson said on 29/Jun/17
@Christian: yea I think the same as what Height said. He has a possibility of 6'4.5 but no higher no less than 6'4. I'd say strong 6'4". I do agree with SJH tho as well.
@Height: agree on both Lonzo and Lavar def looks 6'5/6'6 too
Height said on 29/Jun/17
Lonzo Ball is probably 194cm max, although he could be in the 193cm-194cm range. Lavar looks like a legit 197cm-198cm next to him.
Christian-196.5cm (6ft5 3/8) said on 28/Jun/17
@Canson
If Lonzo's only 6'4", then that's bad news for Jimmy Kimmel.
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Canson said on 28/Jun/17
@Johnson: there is no footwear issue. The angle is bad and the picture is bad. You need to use a pic that is objective and can clearly show both rather than one that "makes Rose taller" just to "make Griezmann taller". That's what you're doing here and you know it
Canson said on 28/Jun/17
@Animus: terrific estimate! I would say he's about my height (194cm) based on how he looked next to Silver (he does have a fro so maybe he's solid 6'4" but that's at his lowest no less than that)
Canson said on 28/Jun/17
@Johnson: phelps is a good 1.25-1.5" on Rose. Rob has Phelps listed right he was about 2" shorter than me. Saw him in Atlantic City once on level ground and shook his hand
Johnson said on 28/Jun/17
But there must be advantage in shoes or bad angle... Phelps is really tall. Barefoot Phelps should edge out Rose
Johnson said on 28/Jun/17
Rose is 189 and is taller than Phelps
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Animus said on 28/Jun/17
@Ballerbesty
Lonzo Ball is arguably around 6'4½" without shoes. I would say he looks 2½ or 3 inches shorter than Magic Johnson, who probably hasn't lost noticeable height.
Ball was 6'3½" at age 16-17, but he was also 162 lbs. He was clearly underdeveloped and must have grown since then.
Canson said on 5/Jun/17
185-186 solid 6'1"
Canson said on 4/Jun/17
@Ballerbesty: unfortunately no combine measurement either. He was 6'3.5 in high school years back so maybe 6'4.5-6'5 barefoot
Timur9717 said on 2/Jun/17
No more than 186 cm. He looks 3 cm shorter than John Wall who is 189 cm.
Canson said on 1/Jun/17
He is not as tall as Michael Phelps. Phelps is close in height with Jarrett Jack. Jack is clearly taller than Rose. Rose isn't over 185-186
184.9 on a bad day said on 29/May/17
He looks identical with michael phelps
maybe he grow a bit after the draft, his armspan is insane 6ft 7- 6 ft 8. this dude was a beast at his prime.
Ballerbesty said on 20/May/17
Hey Rob,
Is Lonzo Ball 6'6?
Editor Rob
not familiar with him unfortunately.
Canson said on 25/Apr/17
@Johnson: agreed! I'm ok with Shane claiming it if he wants but for me personally I claim something I walk around at. I could split it and say I'm 6'4.5 (and I'm a hair over 6'5-195.8cm waking up) but what's the point. I just say 6'4" as my low is 194 (193.9). I've lost some height as I used to measure bang on 196 out of bed and 194-194.1 at my lowest from what I recall.
Johnson said on 22/Apr/17
I don't like people claimg out of bed height. It only lasts 1 minute and you ate not going to be a medical test at that time
Canson said on 17/Apr/17
@Shane: you're right. if someone measures it they can claim it. But for compression my definition of that is the height loss later in the day like for me anything below 6'4.33 (193.9cm) I consider compression. Maybe at a stretch 194cm flat since I can measure that even not being on my feet during the day mainly sitting and a little standing.
Shane said on 12/Apr/17
Maximum height out of bed is an absolutely legit height to use. It measures ones full height before compression. It's fine if people want to use another time of day, but out of bed height is valid and - again - allows one to measure his complete, full height, not a watered down height after shrinkage.
Canson said on 23/Mar/17
@Ebrahim: now if you look at what I wrote I didn't say anything about him having a 5" forehead what I said is Rose with the Afro doesn't come to his forehead. Not to mention look down this page. You have multiple encounters first hand that put him under or at 6'1". Some food for thought most foreheads are 4" to the top of the head so if Rose is an inch below his eyebrows (minimum that is including his hair) that is 5". I won't say below 6'1" but that's as high as I'd give him. In the NBA they do round up so Rose could've been 6'1 1/8 and they could've said 6'1.5. Or maybe 6'1.01 and done it. It's more likely Gordon was under 6'1 and rounded up. Those are smaller players and Gordon very small for a 2 guard. They would inflate a bit to make them more attractive in the draft. That's common knowledge. Melo didn't need it at his size and after winning a national championship as he is normal barefoot size for a 3.
Johnson said on 23/Mar/17
From top head to eyes normally 4'5". About the picture of Gordon and Rose I see more than 1 inch between them
Ebrahim said on 22/Mar/17
@Canson I just can't see how rose is less than 6'2. And more surprisingly, I can't imagine how Melo has 5" forehead. Any person less than 8 feet with a forehead longer than 4" has a ridiculously long forehead.
Canson said on 20/Mar/17
@Johnson: rose is very clearly shorter than him meaning curry. I don't know about Gordon's height. But an inference here would be that you see Rose is 6'1.5 here and Gordon 6'1" and there is 1/2 difference in the picture too so likely they rounded them up a bit or they received morning measurements. If someone actually more than just one person has met rose and said he's 6'1" it means he is and Gordon may be a hair under somewhere in the 6'0" range. This of course is at their lowest which I consider to be their real height. That's the height you stay at for the longest period of time during the day. For example after 7-8 hours I'm 193.9 and if I am not on my feet I will likely stay around there. i typically on this site just say I'm 194cm and consider myself 6'4 3/8 as my true height on average
Canson said on 17/Mar/17
@Johnson: i think the measurements are just off in general meaning they judiciously throw fractions on and measure in shoes. That much I know because I have a friend who is a scout and confirmed Wade and Wall both being what SJH and I said along with a 6'3" friend of mine who has met John Wall. He said he's 1-1.5" taller than he is and my buddy even can dip under 6'2" at night by a hair and has even seen 6'2.75 after a long day although most days it's 6'2.97 or something like that. But for the record most people after 2 hrs lose 3/8-1/2" of their height so it still doesn't add up. Carmelo Anthony I can see maybe 3 hrs out of bed or so because he did actually look a strong 6'6" in person meaning 6'6-6'6.25. But If you look at Rose next to him there is no chance he is 6'2.5. Even using your 2 HR method it makes Melo 6'6.25-.375 maybe and he's 5" taller than Rose even with Rose's hair. Rose even with hair doesn't come to his eyebrows
Johnson said on 16/Mar/17
Also, the 2 hours I mean because I work comparing footballers height so I see silly sustracting cms to all football medical listings. On a normal guy I see valid whatever test in medical
Also I mean: minimum 2 hours after waking up. Not before. But evening it is ok
Johnson said on 16/Mar/17
@Canson come on man!! In those 2 pictures Rose is taller than Curry. Look at the eyes line... And what about Gordon?
@Rob who is taller in those 2 pics. Rose or Curry?
Canson said on 15/Mar/17
@johnson: check that pic again. Curry is clearly taller in the Olympic picture. It's clear as day. Rose has an Afro where as Curry does not and curry still is taller. Curry's shoulders and head are higher. Curry it's well established was measured at 630am and given a 6'2" barefoot measurement flat. My guess is he is 6'1.5 at his lowest and Rose is 6'1" flat at his. You can use your
Method of inflating them to the "2 hrs out of bed" which is silly because you have no merit or basis on it but either way Aron uses 5 hrs out of bed as the minimum maybe 7 hrs. Either way Rose still is 6'1.5 tops
S.J.H said on 9/Mar/17
@Canson
Maybe ross is 6'0.8-0.9 close enough just say he is 6'1 and def 6'2 with basketball sneakers on. If a real 6'1.5 think ross is taller that is funny. I did say at most ross look 186cm in some photos and took account it was in the morning and still drop to 185cm like someone who met him and it's reasonable since kobe always look about 4" taller
Scotty said on 5/Mar/17
I'm watching the Knicks vs Warriors, and Ron Baker is listed at 6'4, when he's shorter than Rose??? He's around 5'11, 6'0. (Baker)
Johnson said on 1/Mar/17
I bring you guys interesting pictures of Rose
With Ben Gordon measured 6'1 without shoes
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With Pau Gasol (he claims 2.15 and he was measured 214.5 playing for Barcelona. Pau is slightly taller than Marc Gasol, listed 7'1 but claiming 7 feet tall without shoes)
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Rose looks taller than Stephen Curry
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Rose is like 11 cm shorter than Anthony. The thing is how tall is Carmelo Anthony in the morning 2 hours after waking up... I can only give opinions of that time no facts
Canson said on 1/Mar/17
Yes S.J.H I certainly agree.I'd say prob 6'1". He looks at least a full 5" shorter than melo does. Ebrahim and Johnson tho want Thierry to be taller or to be his listed height so the only way for that to happen is to make Rose 188 or 189. That is a major annoyance when people do that. Rose has a pre draft 6'1.5 barefoot he isn't more and likely could be lower is more arguable. I don't see why a NBA player would purposely not stand at his fullest. If I had a nickel every time someone claims someone grew just to make the other person the height listed I'd be a rich man. Don't know how much better a comparison we can get to someone who posted below that said himself he's met Rose and he's 6'0.75 or 6'1" which would mean no way in hell he is 6'2". But I guess that poster from Milan below was too stupid even being 6'1.5 himself to realize someone was taller than him when he was actually shorter. I swear some people lol
S.J.H said on 27/Feb/17
@Canson
Like i say john wall is only 6'1-3/4 in person i bet rose is only 6'0.5 at most 6'0.75 i wouldn't go for 6'1
Canson said on 26/Feb/17
@Johnson: you sure make a lot of excuses. Look at your pic with hand over heart and tell me that rose doesn't even come to his eyebrows even with his hair against Melo. That's 5" sorry but rose is not 189cm or 188. He didn't grow he is 6'1-6'1.5. Melo is 198-198.8 rose is 186-187 tops maybe even 185-186 get over it
Canson said on 26/Feb/17
@Johnson: you sure make a lot of excuses. Look at your pic with hand over heart and tell me that rose doesn't even come to his eyebrows even with his hair against Melo. That's 5" sorry but rose is not 189cm or 188. He didn't grow he is 6'1-6'1.5
Johnson said on 19/Feb/17
@Ebrahim that is what I said. If Henry is 187.5 or 188 cm, Rose can be 188.5 or 189 cm.
Ebrahim said on 17/Feb/17
@Johnson He doesn't look that short compared to Mello. I am 6'1 myself and if I put my self in D Rose shoes against Mello, I'd say he is 6'5 tops, which we all know isn't true, Mello is at least 6'6 and possibly 6'7 which makes Rose at least 6'2, maybe add half an inch.
Johnson said on 11/Feb/17
Rose looks slightly taller than footballer Henry (188 cm or 187.5 cm)
Rose with Carmelo Anthony
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Thierry Henry with Carmelo Anthony
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Remember Rubio is listed 6'4, and I'm giving him less, like 6'2.75, so I am reasonable I am not just giving away heights. Rubio himself claimed 1.90 cm.
If I had to make a bet about Rose in medicals is over 6'2 mark... it is just my opinion.
If one day we see a clip of Rose being measured I hope it clears out and who wins
Canson said on 10/Feb/17
@Johnson: I don't know what to tell you really. If your theory were true it'd mean most of the league is under-listed and they aren't most overlisted not under. Likely Rubio and Lillard are. I told you I've met melo he's 198-199 as listed and is exactly the same with Kyle korver who also measured it if you see pics. For rose to be 6'2.5 those two are essentially legit 6'7.5-6'8 meaning they'd be as tall as Carlos boozer or Kevin love. Look at pics and tell me hand over heart that memo looks taller or as tall as boozer he's clearly shorter. Both are shorter than Lebron as well and he's only around 200cm/201cm himself judging how he looks next to those two. So unfortunately your theory about rose is not valid and if you look at everyone else here you are the only one who is making him thalook tall and your logic you are giving is not intelligent logic like James said to you in a post pseudoscientist. It's a what if and the what if is because you want Griezmann to be taller than he is or make him the height he's listed. And he may be it's tough to judge from pics in some cases but I've seen enough of melo with rose to know that he doesn't come to his eyebrows about inch below.
Johnson said on 31/Jan/17
@Canson but I say it according to good pics. You see Rubio and Lillard are very similar. You see Rose is taller than Lillard. Then we need an explanation, those are very good pics. If Lillard is shorter than Rubio, Rose must be around 189 cm
Canson said on 31/Jan/17
@Johnson: problem is you make up some of the things you say. Someone has grown (multiple people), Like Curry at 6'3 pre draft and the drafts are held in the afternoon. It seems everything you say is opinion based and it's always centered around inflation of height
S.J.H said on 26/Jan/17
Rose height probably get from morning unless john wall is over 6'2 as i met him close up and no way wall is over 6'2
Johnson said on 25/Jan/17
Well, I checked my comments about Kobe Bryant, I am not sure.. Her wife at home can be innacurate. 195.5 minimum but he could over that
Johnson said on 25/Jan/17
@Canson in the particular case of Stephen Curry, he was measured 6'3 last time but at 6:30 as he said,I bet it could be on his own hotel. It was just the height for the new season, I doubt drafted players this year using that method
Johnson said on 25/Jan/17
@Canson about Kobe, I think he is 195.5, not 196.4. I challenge Rose's height because I know Lillard is similar or close to Ricky Rubio, who is listed 6'4 but he claims "1.90". I have a picture of Rubio and Lillard back to back. They are quite similar. It is impossible for Lillard being shorter than listed in draft barefoot
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Curry and Rubio are also similar. Curry taller than 6'1 Obama. And I don't see the point in morning - evening medical tests. Once you are on your feet and like 2 hours since waking up it is your real height. I am in my medical tests 175 cm tall, morning, evening or wherever. My typical low is also 175 cm. I am only 176 cm tall in the morning but at home without going out. Once I am out I am 175. And relaxed at home in the evening I can be 175.5 but in my medicals I am not over 175.3 or so.
Canson said on 25/Jan/17
@Johnson: I have answered but apparently my post is not being added. I don't know how lillard measured what he did but I do know that A. He measured in the morning (all measurements 2009 and later were strictly morning and 2008 specifically was afternoon go look at Steph curry's page where sportsheight posted about it). B. Lillard never looks over 6'1 on the court compare him to other point guards. C. Steph curry was in that 2009 draft and tweeted at 630 in the morning saying when he was measured. he is under 6'2 himself at his lowest and doesn't look much if at all taller than rose. Next thing is look at Rose next to a legit 198-199 guy like Carmelo Anthony who I have met so no he didn't grow. He was about 2" taller than me 1.5-2". Rose is 5" shorter than Melo and doesn't even come to his eyebrows (look at the pics with he and porzangis).
Since I answered your question My next question to you is why is it that you challenge Rose's height that is listed in the pre draft but not Lillard's? Meaning why is Rose's height off all of a sudden when there are people below who have met him that say he's 6'1 6'0.75 or 6'1.5? Common sense would say he isn't 6'2.5 like you are trying to make him. With all do respect you inflate almost every athlete you comment on beyond their predraft and like James said you are optimistic that they are taller or grew since their drafts. I saw where you listed Kobe (who specifically said he's 6'4.75 at 196.4), lebron who has a pre draft of 6'7.25 at 203cm Westbrook who has one at 6'2.25 at 6'3 and now rose at 6'2.5 when his draft is 6'1.5. In addition look at your comments about Ibra where you say to me actually "that 194 isn't his true height" when the prefix started with 194. Either way soccer measurement are in the morning so even if he were 194.9 he's down to a lower 194 later in the day. The latter was just for you to make Pique 194cm. If it were one player or two I could see it but you inflate nearly every athlete especially a soccer player when you comment.
Johnson said on 23/Jan/17
@Canson I expect your answer about Lillard
184.9 on a bad day said on 21/Jan/17
Rob sorry to bother you, but so do you think 6 ft 1.75 range is possible ?
Editor Rob
it's not an impossibility, he can pull near 6ft 2 at times.
Johnson said on 20/Jan/17
@Canson then just explain why Lillard 6'1.75 barefoot is shorter than Rose...
Canson said on 14/Jan/17
@Johnson: not being disrespectful as I have a ton of respect for you but far too many people in your eyes grow after being drafted and by ungodly amounts. You can't inflate someone else just to make the soccer players or someone else a certain height. In my opinion that is worse than downgrading when someone inflates my height or someone else's just to accommodate someone else. People usually don't grow much after 18 if anything a cm maybe. Rose next to Carmelo Anthony is 6'1 range. And I have seen Melo recently he didn't grow he's 198-199 as he was when drafted.
Johnson said on 11/Jan/17
Damian Lillard was measured barefoot 6'1.75 and he is shorter than Rose
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Johnson said on 11/Jan/17
But perhaps Rose could grow up a little bit since the draft too
Canson said on 10/Jan/17
Johnson not sure how tall he is. I also can't see his shoes to see what type he has on whereas presumably Rose is wearing basketball shoes which could be an advantage. However using common sense NBA measurements are more propense to being overinflated not under inflated. Rose is 6'1.5 Barefoot. This is what he is listed in the draft bio and this is how he looks. Also I agree with the other posts below. He could be as low as 6'1 but I'd say he's 186cm.all I am saying is just because the other guy looks shorter the answer should not be to inflate Rose just to accommodate him. You've done that with a lot of players like Kobe (admittedly 195cm) Ibra (194 range and likely a morning measurement, Westbrook still 6'2.25 next to MJ, and Rose still looks 6'1.25-.5, etc when someone else looks shorter than they are suspected or listed next to them. If anything Rose has the more accurate measurement between the two.The answer cannot always be to "inflate" someone else just to make someone else taller or the height you want them to be. I'm not criticizing you just making a point because you're thinking is optimistic and subjective in favor of Footballers like James mentioned not balanced.
Johnson said on 6/Jan/17
@Canson look at the pic with Griezmann and then tell me how tall Griezmann is if Rose is 6'1.5
Canson said on 5/Jan/17
@Johnson: read all of the posts below. Also check his pre draft measurement. Most are actually saying he's only 6'1" flat or 6'0.76. He's at most 6'1.5. Not sure how you are getting that the guy is 6'2.5 or 189 cm but you're the only one that sees it and it's not seeing it it's the fact that you're comparing him to someone else who you are making a certain height
Johnson said on 2/Jan/17
@184.9 on a bad day do you mean on your test abcd, "out of bed heights" and night heights"?. Because if you only mean early morning like 1-2 hours after waking up, the height is very similar to the night. My case: out of bed 177.5, after breakfast 176.5, medical in the morning 176, evening 175.5, night 175...
Canson said on 29/Dec/16
@Rob: when was he measured? Morning or afternoon? That could be the key as to whether he dips under 187
Editor Rob
some players might get measured earlier than others, I think there will be a very small percentage who could gain another bit of height after being measured.
184.9 on a bad day said on 26/Dec/16
Rob ,wiche one you put Rose ?
a)190,0 cms/188,0 cms
b)189.5 cms/ 187.5 cms
c)189.0 cms/187.0 cms
d)188.5 cms/ 186.5 cms
e) 188.0 cms/ 186.0 cms
And Rob, do you think he has more chance to dip under 6 ft 1.5 or hold at night. Thank you
Editor Rob
C I think is ok for him, I'm not sure he would dip much under 187
Johnson said on 23/Dec/16
With Griezmann 174 or 175
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Rose can't be less than 189 cm
Johnson said on 19/Dec/16
Rose is taller than Curry!!!
Proof July 2014
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S.J.H said on 18/Oct/16
I recall when i met john wall he look at most 6'2 and wall atually look an inch taller than rose. So rose is 6'1
S.J.H said on 20/Sep/16
Westbrook himself claim 6'3 and say rose is 6'2
Canson said on 23/Jul/16
@Stalker: I've met Hinrich. He's not near 6'4 barefoot. Shoes he's 192 I'll give you that. To be honest, when I saw him he looked 6'2 range in person (didn't get a look at footwear and don't remember what I was wearing either) but it's possible he's around 6'2.5-.75 like his pre draft has. Others from that 2003 class that I've met are the same height as they measured or within a very small range like 1/4" if that. So my guess is the combine was late morning or early afternoon that year
Canson said on 23/Jul/16
@Dustin: probably comparable to Rose. The one guy who mentioned he met him below said he's 6'.75 in his eyes. I'd say if he measured 6'1.5 at the pre draft that he's likely at least 6'1 flat maybe 6'1.25 likely a strong 6'1. That's kinda where I see Kyrie or Lillard as well
Dustin said on 19/Jul/16
What do you think Damian Lillard and Kyrie Irving range is would be nice for them have a page
Canson said on 28/Jun/16
@jajamen: it's not some guess or estimate. It's what the pre draft (a morning measurement according to people who have met him here on this page say) I wouldn't go as far as the one guy did at 6'.75 tho unless he works out. Maybe that's his lowest on the day. I'll call him 6'1 flat
jajamen said on 17/May/16
Rob, why not 6'1.75?
Editor Rob
he had the 6ft 1.5 measurement at draft camp.
John said on 5/Feb/16
Rose=187 cm
Curry=188 cm
Westbrook=189 cm
Crypto139 said on 24/Jan/15
You know Rob I kind of look like Derrick Rose. You know same skin tone, same kind of hair, and even a very similarly shaped head. Only thing is that he is 16-17 cm taller than I am -_-
Though I wonder Rob what length would his head be, it seems smaller in proportion to his body to how my head is. Is it 9.5 Inches or is it a little bit over or under that mark?
Editor Rob
probably very close to about 9.5
MD said on 1/Jan/15
Rose was measured at 6'1.5" in the NBA's pre-draft camp. He is not taller than what he was measured. The ONLY legitimate debate here could be if he's shorter than measured, not taller.
Shredo said on 30/Dec/14
Rose is 6' 3/4
Just short of 6'1, probably 6'1 in the morning
Stalker said on 18/Oct/14
He definitely grew after draft. I saw a recent pic of him standing next to Kirk Hinrich and to me he even looked taller (maybe equal). And Hinrich is listed at 193. So Rose now must be at least 189-190
Kane said on 1/Aug/14
Is he really 187 when Ozil is about 180?
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Ally said on 1/Aug/14
He's 187cm?? He makes Mesut Ozil look 172-174 cml. Thats weird
juan said on 15/Jan/14
Thats even more bad news for Jerry West who claims 6'4 and barely looks any taller than Rose, lol.
Lyvloev said on 5/Dec/13
Derrick Rose in predraft was the first guy to be measured, at 8:00 AM, he also said it's morning height for him and he was 186.7cm~187cm. When I asked him what's his height, he told me: "clear 6'1", 185.5cm, but Adidas Rose shoes have 3.5cm~4cm(depends which model). So in NBA he is listed in shoes 189cm, but NBA rounds it to 191cm. Rose wingspan is abnormal at 6 ft 8(203cm) which gives him tone of advantage, just like Rondo, too.