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6ft 7.36in (201.6cm)
6ft 7.36in (201.6cm)
Pierre said on 31/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Oct/21
@Pierre
I applaud your consistency. You’ve failed again. There is little to Tyson’s heel. You didn’t produce a similar photo showing Magic’s heel for comparison. as requested. LOL, your credibility is zero
Sorry TallI.T.S but I can't stop laughing by reading your new argument...If now by your theory all the pics that don't show exactly the whole shoe of this guys is systematically a bad proof then I'm sorry to tell you that 99,9 % of your examples showing a supposed 6"7.5' Tyson are bad proofs in this case lol (Then "I failed again" is only in your dreams ... ) .it seems to me in the pic next to Floyd Mayweather we can see the whole shoe of Magic no?....
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Oct/21
@Pierre
I applaud your consistency. You’ve failed again. There is little to Tyson’s heel. You didn’t produce a similar photo showing Magic’s heel for comparison. as requested. LOL, your credibility is zero
Sorry TallI.T.S but I can't stop laughing by reading your new argument...If now by your theory all the pics that don't show exactly the whole shoe of this guys is systematically a bad proof then I'm sorry to tell you that 99,9 % of your examples showing a supposed 6"7.5' Tyson are bad proofs in this case lol (Then "I failed again" is only in your dreams ... ) .it seems to me in the pic next to Floyd Mayweather we can see the whole shoe of Magic no?....
Pierre said on 30/Oct/21
Canson said on 28/Oct/21
Here we go again with Pierre’s “Pierracy theories”
Here is a comment with poor arguments...
Canson said on 28/Oct/21
Here we go again with Pierre’s “Pierracy theories”
Here is a comment with poor arguments...
Chaoscontrol. said on 29/Oct/21
Pierre said on 26/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Oct/21
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
@TallI.T.S Tyson's heel is a classic heel,and Magic doesn't wear stilletos lol .A fraction of help is the max Magic wears ,but Magic stands in a terrible posture here!
Okay, but what about in yknow, reality?
Pierre said on 26/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Oct/21
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
@TallI.T.S Tyson's heel is a classic heel,and Magic doesn't wear stilletos lol .A fraction of help is the max Magic wears ,but Magic stands in a terrible posture here!
Okay, but what about in yknow, reality?
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Oct/21
@Pierre
I applaud your consistency. You’ve failed again. There is little to Tyson’s heel. You didn’t produce a similar photo showing Magic’s heel for comparison. as requested. LOL, your credibility is zero.
@Canson
“Pierracy theories”. LOL. He fires so many out there like from a shot gun. Over time, the odds are he might just get one right one day and he’ll say “See, I told you!” So far though, he’s missing the mark by a country mile.
@Pierre
I applaud your consistency. You’ve failed again. There is little to Tyson’s heel. You didn’t produce a similar photo showing Magic’s heel for comparison. as requested. LOL, your credibility is zero.
@Canson
“Pierracy theories”. LOL. He fires so many out there like from a shot gun. Over time, the odds are he might just get one right one day and he’ll say “See, I told you!” So far though, he’s missing the mark by a country mile.
Pierre said on 29/Oct/21
viper said on 26/Oct/21
The Magic photos are weird and I can't explain them.
Is Magic wearing 1.5 inch shoes with orthopedics
Do you believe Magic wears help here = Click Here hem not exactly...but= Click Here Click Here the difference between Magic and Tyson one more time looks the same by Floyd Mayweathers.
viper said on 26/Oct/21
The Magic photos are weird and I can't explain them.
Is Magic wearing 1.5 inch shoes with orthopedics
Do you believe Magic wears help here = Click Here hem not exactly...but= Click Here Click Here the difference between Magic and Tyson one more time looks the same by Floyd Mayweathers.
JD1996 said on 28/Oct/21
Chaos when I was 16 I was 6’1” now I’m 6’7” it’s very possible he grew 3 inches since he was 16.
Chaos when I was 16 I was 6’1” now I’m 6’7” it’s very possible he grew 3 inches since he was 16.
Canson said on 28/Oct/21
Here we go again with Pierre’s “Pierracy theories”
Here we go again with Pierre’s “Pierracy theories”
Mickie said on 28/Oct/21
@ Chaos control - it's possible to grow 3 inches after 16, but not likely. Especially for Fury who I doubt was a "late bloomer". It'd be much more likely imo - if 6'6" was really his height at 16 - for him to wind up in the 6'7" range than 6'9".
I do think you'd have to be highly biased to argue that he is less than an inch taller than Wilder seeing them in the ring together. I can understand some people saying it looked close to 2 inches, but I think everyone here (with one notable exception) could agree less than 1 inch is pretty much impossible.
@ Chaos control - it's possible to grow 3 inches after 16, but not likely. Especially for Fury who I doubt was a "late bloomer". It'd be much more likely imo - if 6'6" was really his height at 16 - for him to wind up in the 6'7" range than 6'9".
I do think you'd have to be highly biased to argue that he is less than an inch taller than Wilder seeing them in the ring together. I can understand some people saying it looked close to 2 inches, but I think everyone here (with one notable exception) could agree less than 1 inch is pretty much impossible.
Chaoscontrol. said on 27/Oct/21
Angel Segarra said on 25/Oct/21
Tyson Fury started boxing as an amateur at the age of sixteen,when he was 6'6". Wilder is 6'7"'2 inches shorter than Fury.People, no need to speculate with photos ,there are videos of the Fury vs Wilder fights on YouTube ,look at them and you will see that fury is a couple of inches taller than Wilder!!
That would require him to have grown 3 inches since he was 16. You really think that’s possible?
Angel Segarra said on 25/Oct/21
Tyson Fury started boxing as an amateur at the age of sixteen,when he was 6'6". Wilder is 6'7"'2 inches shorter than Fury.People, no need to speculate with photos ,there are videos of the Fury vs Wilder fights on YouTube ,look at them and you will see that fury is a couple of inches taller than Wilder!!
That would require him to have grown 3 inches since he was 16. You really think that’s possible?
viper said on 26/Oct/21
The Magic photos are weird and I can't explain them.
Is Magic wearing 1.5 inch shoes with orthopedics
The Magic photos are weird and I can't explain them.
Is Magic wearing 1.5 inch shoes with orthopedics
Pierre said on 26/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Oct/21
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
@TallI.T.S Tyson's heel is a classic heel,and Magic doesn't wear stilletos lol .A fraction of help is the max Magic wears ,but Magic stands in a terrible posture here!
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Oct/21
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
@TallI.T.S Tyson's heel is a classic heel,and Magic doesn't wear stilletos lol .A fraction of help is the max Magic wears ,but Magic stands in a terrible posture here!
Tall In The Saddle said on 26/Oct/21
@Mickie
Sorry man, since you referenced it I’ve been looking for the vision myself but no luck.If get lucky I’ll link it.
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
@Mickie
Sorry man, since you referenced it I’ve been looking for the vision myself but no luck.If get lucky I’ll link it.
@Pierre
Tyson’s footwear has next to no heel. If you’re going to claim little difference in footwear, then where’s the clear view on Magic’s heel for comparison?
Angel Segarra said on 25/Oct/21
Tyson Fury started boxing as an amateur at the age of sixteen,when he was 6'6". Wilder is 6'7"'2 inches shorter than Fury.People, no need to speculate with photos ,there are videos of the Fury vs Wilder fights on YouTube ,look at them and you will see that fury is a couple of inches taller than Wilder!!
Tyson Fury started boxing as an amateur at the age of sixteen,when he was 6'6". Wilder is 6'7"'2 inches shorter than Fury.People, no need to speculate with photos ,there are videos of the Fury vs Wilder fights on YouTube ,look at them and you will see that fury is a couple of inches taller than Wilder!!
Mickie said on 24/Oct/21
Is anyone aware of a way to view the full Fox broadcast of the fight? There was a scene when they were closing out the broadcast where they showed a level view of the Fury Wilder 3 center of the ring stare down. A closer up view of the same moment in the photo I shared a while back. It was a really good shot to compare their heights.
Is anyone aware of a way to view the full Fox broadcast of the fight? There was a scene when they were closing out the broadcast where they showed a level view of the Fury Wilder 3 center of the ring stare down. A closer up view of the same moment in the photo I shared a while back. It was a really good shot to compare their heights.
Rapha said on 24/Oct/21
Hi Rob
Who do you think is taller: Tyson Fury or Vitali Klitschko ?
Editor Rob
Hi Rob
Who do you think is taller: Tyson Fury or Vitali Klitschko ?
Editor RobWould expect Fury to measure taller
Pierre said on 23/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 22/Oct/21
The photos of Magic as compared to Wilder and Lewis offsets a good deal of the advantage that Magic appeared to hold over Fury who himself is clearly taller than Wilder and who holds no less advantage than Magic is holding over Lewis. It begs the question as to what was going on with the Fury Magic photos. Skewed angles don’t seem enough to explain it so perhaps Magic had some decent footwear advantage also?
He had maybe a complete fraction less shoe no more = Click Here but Magic was standing in poor posture....
Tall In The Saddle said on 22/Oct/21
The photos of Magic as compared to Wilder and Lewis offsets a good deal of the advantage that Magic appeared to hold over Fury who himself is clearly taller than Wilder and who holds no less advantage than Magic is holding over Lewis. It begs the question as to what was going on with the Fury Magic photos. Skewed angles don’t seem enough to explain it so perhaps Magic had some decent footwear advantage also?
He had maybe a complete fraction less shoe no more = Click Here but Magic was standing in poor posture....
Mickie said on 23/Oct/21
Pierre, mate, what the heck are you talking about? I agree that there are far better photos from their meeting to compare, and I also agree that Momoa is dropping height, but how in the world are you getting that Tyson is stretching up in those photos? Tyson is definitely dropping height, too. Neither guy is standing well there. Also, you are aware that Momoa had the footwear advantage in that meeting not Fury, right?
Pierre, mate, what the heck are you talking about? I agree that there are far better photos from their meeting to compare, and I also agree that Momoa is dropping height, but how in the world are you getting that Tyson is stretching up in those photos? Tyson is definitely dropping height, too. Neither guy is standing well there. Also, you are aware that Momoa had the footwear advantage in that meeting not Fury, right?
Tall In The Saddle said on 22/Oct/21
The photos of Magic as compared to Wilder and Lewis offsets a good deal of the advantage that Magic appeared to hold over Fury who himself is clearly taller than Wilder and who holds no less advantage than Magic is holding over Lewis. It begs the question as to what was going on with the Fury Magic photos. Skewed angles don’t seem enough to explain it so perhaps Magic had some decent footwear advantage also?
The photos of Magic as compared to Wilder and Lewis offsets a good deal of the advantage that Magic appeared to hold over Fury who himself is clearly taller than Wilder and who holds no less advantage than Magic is holding over Lewis. It begs the question as to what was going on with the Fury Magic photos. Skewed angles don’t seem enough to explain it so perhaps Magic had some decent footwear advantage also?
Pierre said on 21/Oct/21
To me Jason Momoa's height is debatable ,next to Jenny he's around 6"3' not around 6"4'(around 1:58 in the video) = Click Here
Tyson's fans always refer to this famous pic inwich Tyson streches up while Jason tends to stretch down.Here the difference looks hardly more than 3 inches even by considering help of shoe,even hardly 3 full inches = Click Here Click Here
To me Jason Momoa's height is debatable ,next to Jenny he's around 6"3' not around 6"4'(around 1:58 in the video) = Click Here
Tyson's fans always refer to this famous pic inwich Tyson streches up while Jason tends to stretch down.Here the difference looks hardly more than 3 inches even by considering help of shoe,even hardly 3 full inches = Click Here Click Here
Pierre said on 20/Oct/21
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Oct/21
P?erre The Picture with Taker & HHH HHH is in ring gear probably wearing lifts in his boots I seen a Show with HHH with a 6ft 2 listed Actor & the Actor was Taller than HHH
Here is a pic with the shoes look at Taker's shoes... Imo around same help = Click Here
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Oct/21
P?erre The Picture with Taker & HHH HHH is in ring gear probably wearing lifts in his boots I seen a Show with HHH with a 6ft 2 listed Actor & the Actor was Taller than HHH
Here is a pic with the shoes look at Taker's shoes... Imo around same help = Click Here
Mickie said on 20/Oct/21
@Jordan87 - I think it looks that way too, but seeing Magic with Deontay made me question that. Click Here We saw Fury in the ring with Deontay and it looked close to a 1.5" difference, I am not seeing Magic towering above Deontay the way he should if he's actually had the height advantage over Fury that those photos make it look like. Also look at Magic with Carmelo Anthony and Fury with him. They look about the same height if we use Carmelo as a measuring stick.
@ UndertakerFrank - remember Momoa also had on bigger boots when he met Fury. This could have resulted in a 1 - 2 cm difference in Momoa's favor, so if Fury looks 3" taller that could indicate 3.5" might be a better guess.
@Jordan87 - I think it looks that way too, but seeing Magic with Deontay made me question that. Click Here We saw Fury in the ring with Deontay and it looked close to a 1.5" difference, I am not seeing Magic towering above Deontay the way he should if he's actually had the height advantage over Fury that those photos make it look like. Also look at Magic with Carmelo Anthony and Fury with him. They look about the same height if we use Carmelo as a measuring stick.
@ UndertakerFrank - remember Momoa also had on bigger boots when he met Fury. This could have resulted in a 1 - 2 cm difference in Momoa's favor, so if Fury looks 3" taller that could indicate 3.5" might be a better guess.
Jordan87 said on 18/Oct/21
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Magic is def taller Than Fury, Alot more than I thought he would be. Tyson is no 6'8, looks shorter.
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Magic is def taller Than Fury, Alot more than I thought he would be. Tyson is no 6'8, looks shorter.
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Oct/21
Fury Had about 3 inches on Jason Momoa whos listed @ 6ft 4 so No way Fury is 6ft 9 So 6ft 7ish is about right
Fury Had about 3 inches on Jason Momoa whos listed @ 6ft 4 so No way Fury is 6ft 9 So 6ft 7ish is about right
UndertakerFrank said on 18/Oct/21
P?erre The Picture with Taker & HHH HHH is in ring gear probably wearing lifts in his boots I seen a Show with HHH with a 6ft 2 listed Actor & the Actor was Taller than HHH
P?erre The Picture with Taker & HHH HHH is in ring gear probably wearing lifts in his boots I seen a Show with HHH with a 6ft 2 listed Actor & the Actor was Taller than HHH
Canson said on 17/Oct/21
@Viper: that’s absolute minimum but with Wilder I’m beginning to believe he’s taller than that. This listing looks good
@Viper: that’s absolute minimum but with Wilder I’m beginning to believe he’s taller than that. This listing looks good
roboc94 said on 17/Oct/21
If Wilder is 6 foot 6, which a lot of people on this website speculate that he is, then Fury is easily 6 foot 7 1/2 maybe a very weak 6'8
If Wilder is 6 foot 6, which a lot of people on this website speculate that he is, then Fury is easily 6 foot 7 1/2 maybe a very weak 6'8
Gman42 said on 16/Oct/21
@JD1996 In that particular photo with George Fox, I suspect that Tyson is in running sneakers and Fox is in boxing shoes, there is evidence for this in another photo from that same series. Still, I consider Tyson to be more 6'7.25 or 6'7.5. I think Wilder is 6'6.
@JD1996 In that particular photo with George Fox, I suspect that Tyson is in running sneakers and Fox is in boxing shoes, there is evidence for this in another photo from that same series. Still, I consider Tyson to be more 6'7.25 or 6'7.5. I think Wilder is 6'6.
UndertakerFrank said on 15/Oct/21
Rob also with Taker & Tyson Taker is tilting his down alot in that photo so he looking shorter than he is
Rob also with Taker & Tyson Taker is tilting his down alot in that photo so he looking shorter than he is
P?erre said on 15/Oct/21
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Oct/21
Rob i seen a Picture Of Fury with Mike Tyson & Undertaker with Mike Tyson Fury & Taker are Very Close in Height so 6 ft 7 for Fury is possible
But Taker very probably isn't close to 6"7' , absolute max a fuel 6"6' = here is Triple h next to him = Click Here
Triple H next to 6"7.5' Hafthor = Click Here
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Oct/21
Rob i seen a Picture Of Fury with Mike Tyson & Undertaker with Mike Tyson Fury & Taker are Very Close in Height so 6 ft 7 for Fury is possible
But Taker very probably isn't close to 6"7' , absolute max a fuel 6"6' = here is Triple h next to him = Click Here
Triple H next to 6"7.5' Hafthor = Click Here
JD1996 said on 15/Oct/21
Don’t forget whilst he looked close to 2 inches on wilder at times who is speculated to be in the region of 6’6” to 6’6.5” he also looks an inch taller than speculated 6’7” range George fox Click Here so that should tell you he can’t be just 6’7”! But you know he might as well still be 6’7” only aye :) gonna take a break for a while I think, will do me good lol.
Don’t forget whilst he looked close to 2 inches on wilder at times who is speculated to be in the region of 6’6” to 6’6.5” he also looks an inch taller than speculated 6’7” range George fox Click Here so that should tell you he can’t be just 6’7”! But you know he might as well still be 6’7” only aye :) gonna take a break for a while I think, will do me good lol.
Mickie said on 14/Oct/21
Having said that I think 6'7.5" is a good guess, I can see why some people are saying 6'8" next to Wilder in the ring the other day. Of course it depends on what you think Wilder's height is but I think Fury looked roughly an inch and a half taller a lot of the time, although I also think you could argue for 1.25" if you wanted to be conservative.
Having said that I think 6'7.5" is a good guess, I can see why some people are saying 6'8" next to Wilder in the ring the other day. Of course it depends on what you think Wilder's height is but I think Fury looked roughly an inch and a half taller a lot of the time, although I also think you could argue for 1.25" if you wanted to be conservative.
Jed said on 14/Oct/21
Using good headphones, I don't think the Wallin video is too ambiguous. Wallin says 'you're not really 6'9, how tall are you', Fury shakes his head and says '6'7'. Otto then says 'you're 6'7?'.
Using good headphones, I don't think the Wallin video is too ambiguous. Wallin says 'you're not really 6'9, how tall are you', Fury shakes his head and says '6'7'. Otto then says 'you're 6'7?'.
Tall In The Saddle said on 14/Oct/21
@Canson, Mickie
Great shot in the arm for boxing.
It’s easy not to appreciate how hard these guys hit. They don’t have to fire their shots with the same grunt or speed as their smaller counterparts and when I say smaller, we’re talking guys like Usyk who are about 6’3” 220 lbs themselves.A lazy jab probably actually feels like a power pole hitting you in the face. Certainly the force of their punches could be clearly heard.
Funny, they collared Lennox Lewis after the fight for his comments. Lennox said that Fury is a big guy, he’s 6’9”. LOL, maybe Lennox isn’t too fussed about being exact. Surely, face to face, he has realised that Tyson isn’t as tall as he is billed in boxing.
@Canson, Mickie
Great shot in the arm for boxing.
It’s easy not to appreciate how hard these guys hit. They don’t have to fire their shots with the same grunt or speed as their smaller counterparts and when I say smaller, we’re talking guys like Usyk who are about 6’3” 220 lbs themselves.A lazy jab probably actually feels like a power pole hitting you in the face. Certainly the force of their punches could be clearly heard.
Funny, they collared Lennox Lewis after the fight for his comments. Lennox said that Fury is a big guy, he’s 6’9”. LOL, maybe Lennox isn’t too fussed about being exact. Surely, face to face, he has realised that Tyson isn’t as tall as he is billed in boxing.
JD1996 said on 13/Oct/21
@Arch Stanton that’s what I saw too a difference close to 2 inches but easily an inch and a half minimum. If it was only an inch difference it would be a lot more difficult to tell who was the taller guy in that fight but the height difference was obvious to me.
@Arch Stanton that’s what I saw too a difference close to 2 inches but easily an inch and a half minimum. If it was only an inch difference it would be a lot more difficult to tell who was the taller guy in that fight but the height difference was obvious to me.
Undertaker Frank said on 13/Oct/21
Rob i seen a Picture Of Fury with Mike Tyson & Undertaker with Mike Tyson Fury & Taker are Very Close in Height so 6 ft 7 for Fury is possible
Editor Rob
Rob i seen a Picture Of Fury with Mike Tyson & Undertaker with Mike Tyson Fury & Taker are Very Close in Height so 6 ft 7 for Fury is possible
Editor RobI remember the photo with Mike and Undertaker and Taker definitely looked big, given he's dropping over an inch of height too.
Mickie said on 13/Oct/21
Fury at 6'7.5" and Wilder at 6'6.25" could be good listings for them. I don't think Fury is a legit 6'8" guy, but he's not under 6'7". In the boxing ring where variables like footwear and the ground are neutralized he looks about as Rob has him listed much of the time.
Fury at 6'7.5" and Wilder at 6'6.25" could be good listings for them. I don't think Fury is a legit 6'8" guy, but he's not under 6'7". In the boxing ring where variables like footwear and the ground are neutralized he looks about as Rob has him listed much of the time.
Pierre said on 13/Oct/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Oct/21
@Mickie
Very good photo all the same. Click Here. Thanks. The FACT of Fury’s advantage well upheld yet again.
Lol on the ring Deontay lots of time stands in poor posture then of course he can looks sometimes significantly shorter than Tyson...
Click Here Then here I could argue Deontay still looks noticiably taller than Tyson...
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Oct/21
@Mickie
Very good photo all the same. Click Here. Thanks. The FACT of Fury’s advantage well upheld yet again.
Lol on the ring Deontay lots of time stands in poor posture then of course he can looks sometimes significantly shorter than Tyson...
Click Here Then here I could argue Deontay still looks noticiably taller than Tyson...
Canson said on 13/Oct/21
@Public Enemy: yea he may be that but it’s his max afternoon height
@Public Enemy: yea he may be that but it’s his max afternoon height
Canson said on 13/Oct/21
@Pierre: how many more times do you intend to post that same pic? And no it’s not a good pic because you can’t see anything below their faces. As far as footwear advantage in the other pic, it is and advantage but it’s not an inch. Best case is 1cm. You can count that but it doesn’t negate the remainder of the height difference, fury is still at least an inch taller in every pic. Some shots during the fight this past weekend were at least 3cm. Look at Mickie’s pic. He’s still noticeably taller
@Pierre: how many more times do you intend to post that same pic? And no it’s not a good pic because you can’t see anything below their faces. As far as footwear advantage in the other pic, it is and advantage but it’s not an inch. Best case is 1cm. You can count that but it doesn’t negate the remainder of the height difference, fury is still at least an inch taller in every pic. Some shots during the fight this past weekend were at least 3cm. Look at Mickie’s pic. He’s still noticeably taller
Mickie said on 12/Oct/21
@184guy2 - It was 3 to 4 cm between them, yeah. It's possible it wasn't 4, but it was no less than 3.
@184guy2 - It was 3 to 4 cm between them, yeah. It's possible it wasn't 4, but it was no less than 3.
Canson said on 12/Oct/21
@184guy2: it did look almost 2” at one point in his defense but at least an inch is what id call it. Fury may be appropriately listed and Wilder may need the reduction to 6’6.25”
@184guy2: it did look almost 2” at one point in his defense but at least an inch is what id call it. Fury may be appropriately listed and Wilder may need the reduction to 6’6.25”
Arch Stanton said on 12/Oct/21
Tyson looked pretty much a full 6 ft 8 to me in the ring with Wilder, looked close to two inches taller in my opinion, though Wilder loses more height in his boxing stance than Wilder. I'd have guessed 20 stone, and he weighed in at 277 lbs so I was very close!! In the flesh I'm sure he's more imposing than he looks on camera, not somebody I'd want to face in the ring!
Tyson looked pretty much a full 6 ft 8 to me in the ring with Wilder, looked close to two inches taller in my opinion, though Wilder loses more height in his boxing stance than Wilder. I'd have guessed 20 stone, and he weighed in at 277 lbs so I was very close!! In the flesh I'm sure he's more imposing than he looks on camera, not somebody I'd want to face in the ring!
viper said on 12/Oct/21
6-7.5 is the absolute highest I can see Fury
Wilder is 6-6-6-6.25
6-7.5 is the absolute highest I can see Fury
Wilder is 6-6-6-6.25
viper said on 12/Oct/21
I'm 6-3 and have been guessed as low as 6-1
Fury is 6-7 minimum and has been guessed as low as 6-5.
Means nothing
I'm 6-3 and have been guessed as low as 6-1
Fury is 6-7 minimum and has been guessed as low as 6-5.
Means nothing
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Oct/21
@Mickie
Very good photo all the same. Click Here. Thanks. The FACT of Fury’s advantage well upheld yet again.
@Pierre
They JUST faced off and fought the best part of 12 rounds in the ring. LOTS of vision yet again. So what do you post? Same old (yawn) photos outside the ring in questionable footwear and yes, Deontay’s shoes could easily provide advantage for Wilder which is exactly why you return to such rubbish “evidence”.
Get with the program dude. Freshen it up. Your aversion to addressing any vision in the ring in equal footwear, including that from the most recent match, is self incriminating and makes your position laughable.
Fury’s true advantage upheld in the ring makes it a no brainer deduction that Wilder has obviously and deliberately worn advantage footwear outside the ring from time to time. We know Deontay likes to dress “up” figuratively and literally.
@Mickie
Very good photo all the same. Click Here. Thanks. The FACT of Fury’s advantage well upheld yet again.
@Pierre
They JUST faced off and fought the best part of 12 rounds in the ring. LOTS of vision yet again. So what do you post? Same old (yawn) photos outside the ring in questionable footwear and yes, Deontay’s shoes could easily provide advantage for Wilder which is exactly why you return to such rubbish “evidence”.
Get with the program dude. Freshen it up. Your aversion to addressing any vision in the ring in equal footwear, including that from the most recent match, is self incriminating and makes your position laughable.
Fury’s true advantage upheld in the ring makes it a no brainer deduction that Wilder has obviously and deliberately worn advantage footwear outside the ring from time to time. We know Deontay likes to dress “up” figuratively and literally.
184guy2 said on 11/Oct/21
4cms between them ? no f** way
4cms between them ? no f** way
Mickie said on 11/Oct/21
From seeing them in the ring I think it's safe to say Fury has 3 cm on Wilder. 4 cm range could be arguable too, but I don't think it's quite 5.
From seeing them in the ring I think it's safe to say Fury has 3 cm on Wilder. 4 cm range could be arguable too, but I don't think it's quite 5.
Canson said on 11/Oct/21
@Tall in the Saddle: it was a great fight! I was way off with my prediction though 😂. I think it’s safe to say Fury has his number if he already didn’t. Fury is just better all around. He’s stronger, bigger and I’ll even say more mechanically sound
@Tall in the Saddle: it was a great fight! I was way off with my prediction though 😂. I think it’s safe to say Fury has his number if he already didn’t. Fury is just better all around. He’s stronger, bigger and I’ll even say more mechanically sound
Mickie said on 11/Oct/21
Yeah there were definitely hairy moments for Tyson in round 4. The second time he got knocked down it was via illegal rabbit punch though, that shouldn't have been counted as a knock down. At the end of the day Tyson has Wilder's number but I hope Wilder will stick around the sport if his body is in shape too and his desire is still there
Yeah there were definitely hairy moments for Tyson in round 4. The second time he got knocked down it was via illegal rabbit punch though, that shouldn't have been counted as a knock down. At the end of the day Tyson has Wilder's number but I hope Wilder will stick around the sport if his body is in shape too and his desire is still there
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 11/Oct/21
Perhaps Wilder is 6’6.25 and Fury 6’7.75
Perhaps Wilder is 6’6.25 and Fury 6’7.75
Pierre said on 11/Oct/21
eatyaveggies said on 10/Oct/21
1.5 inches on deontay minimum 6'8 maybe 6'8 1/2
here both guys same distance to the camera around same posture = Click Here where are 1.5 inches ?
Click Here Here are the type of shoes Deontay generally wears...are they looking advantageous?Not really...
eatyaveggies said on 10/Oct/21
1.5 inches on deontay minimum 6'8 maybe 6'8 1/2
here both guys same distance to the camera around same posture = Click Here where are 1.5 inches ?
Click Here Here are the type of shoes Deontay generally wears...are they looking advantageous?Not really...
Public Enemy said on 11/Oct/21
Based on the fight I think Editor Rob has him listed on the money. 6’7.5 he is.
Based on the fight I think Editor Rob has him listed on the money. 6’7.5 he is.
eatyaveggies said on 10/Oct/21
1.5 inches on deontay minimum 6'8 maybe 6'8 1/2
1.5 inches on deontay minimum 6'8 maybe 6'8 1/2
JD1996 said on 10/Oct/21
Tyson fury looked noticeably taller than Deontay Wilder again (4-5 cm range) near a couple of inches.
Tyson fury looked noticeably taller than Deontay Wilder again (4-5 cm range) near a couple of inches.
eatyaveggies said on 10/Oct/21
can we get a page ahead of the tommy fury jake paul fight for tommy fury? i wanna see your prediction against their face off
can we get a page ahead of the tommy fury jake paul fight for tommy fury? i wanna see your prediction against their face off
Mickie said on 10/Oct/21
I've not been able to find the shot I was talking about, essentially it was a much better view of this moment: Click Here
I've not been able to find the shot I was talking about, essentially it was a much better view of this moment: Click Here
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 10/Oct/21
@Mickie Fury easily measures 6’8 in the morning. I could see him anywhere from 6’7.25-6’7.75, maybe it’s a little more likely he’s at the lower end of the range
@Mickie Fury easily measures 6’8 in the morning. I could see him anywhere from 6’7.25-6’7.75, maybe it’s a little more likely he’s at the lower end of the range
Pierre said on 10/Oct/21
John O'Brien said on 9/Oct/21
Seen Tyson Fury in the Starbucks on the M58, he's in there most days on route from training in Liverpool.
Him and his dad Aug/Sept 2020.
I was surprised by how lean and lanky he looked.
I'm 5'10.5 he is no taller than 6'7, 6'6 seems about right. His dad was harder to tell, maybe 6'2.
Interesting comment.Apparently Jason Momoa saw the same thing as you !
John O'Brien said on 9/Oct/21
Seen Tyson Fury in the Starbucks on the M58, he's in there most days on route from training in Liverpool.
Him and his dad Aug/Sept 2020.
I was surprised by how lean and lanky he looked.
I'm 5'10.5 he is no taller than 6'7, 6'6 seems about right. His dad was harder to tell, maybe 6'2.
Interesting comment.Apparently Jason Momoa saw the same thing as you !
viper said on 10/Oct/21
It was so obvious Fury was taller in the ring
It almost looked 2 inches
It was so obvious Fury was taller in the ring
It almost looked 2 inches
Tall In The Saddle said on 10/Oct/21
@Canson, Mickie
I bet that fight came so close at various points to a lot of people’s different predictions. Canson, you must’ve though “I got this!” when Wilder put Fury down twice in rd 4, looking good for your rd 6 call bro. There are claims of long counts for both KDs on Fury, standing counts that is because Fury definitely got up before “10” .
I’ve only seen HLs but Fury looked clearly taller with the same advantage previously upheld in the ring. I’ll check out the face off. Fury only ended up being about 3 lbs heavier than their last fight but I think he could stand to lose a bit of the extra weight which appears to be taking a bit from his overall performance. However, the man is his own master and he ultimately comes through in the end, so it could be said that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
By the sounds of it, great fight, a huge credit to both guys and a real boost for boxing which has had some real crap fights lately, the Paul brothers making money small contribution to boxing’s poor image of late.
@Canson, Mickie
I bet that fight came so close at various points to a lot of people’s different predictions. Canson, you must’ve though “I got this!” when Wilder put Fury down twice in rd 4, looking good for your rd 6 call bro. There are claims of long counts for both KDs on Fury, standing counts that is because Fury definitely got up before “10” .
I’ve only seen HLs but Fury looked clearly taller with the same advantage previously upheld in the ring. I’ll check out the face off. Fury only ended up being about 3 lbs heavier than their last fight but I think he could stand to lose a bit of the extra weight which appears to be taking a bit from his overall performance. However, the man is his own master and he ultimately comes through in the end, so it could be said that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
By the sounds of it, great fight, a huge credit to both guys and a real boost for boxing which has had some real crap fights lately, the Paul brothers making money small contribution to boxing’s poor image of late.
Duhon said on 10/Oct/21
What's the height difference between Fury and Lennox here? Click Here
Editor Rob
What's the height difference between Fury and Lennox here? Click Here
Editor RobThe angle favoured Lewis a bit, but I could imagine near 3 inches between them there.
Space said on 10/Oct/21
6’8” 277lbs
Beast
6’8” 277lbs
Beast
Mickie said on 10/Oct/21
At the very end of the Fox broadcast here in the states they showed a perfect angle of the stare down. I'll have to try to find it. Fury definitely had a height advantage again.
At the very end of the Fox broadcast here in the states they showed a perfect angle of the stare down. I'll have to try to find it. Fury definitely had a height advantage again.
Canson said on 9/Oct/21
@Viper: I think that’s more related to their stances. I’d say it would be in the 4-4.5 range if anything
@Viper: I think that’s more related to their stances. I’d say it would be in the 4-4.5 range if anything
Canson said on 9/Oct/21
@Mickie: that’s very telling. I bet strong 6’7 to weak 6’8 range meaning right around what Rob lists him. Not sure I buy over 6’7.5 though but I would give him the over 6’7.5 before I considered him a solid 6’6 😂
@Mickie: that’s very telling. I bet strong 6’7 to weak 6’8 range meaning right around what Rob lists him. Not sure I buy over 6’7.5 though but I would give him the over 6’7.5 before I considered him a solid 6’6 😂
John O'Brien said on 9/Oct/21
Seen Tyson Fury in the Starbucks on the M58, he's in there most days on route from training in Liverpool.
Him and his dad Aug/Sept 2020.
I was surprised by how lean and lanky he looked.
I'm 5'10.5 he is no taller than 6'7, 6'6 seems about right. His dad was harder to tell, maybe 6'2.
Seen Tyson Fury in the Starbucks on the M58, he's in there most days on route from training in Liverpool.
Him and his dad Aug/Sept 2020.
I was surprised by how lean and lanky he looked.
I'm 5'10.5 he is no taller than 6'7, 6'6 seems about right. His dad was harder to tell, maybe 6'2.
Canson said on 9/Oct/21
@Tall in the Saddle: Wilder in 6 lol
@Tall in the Saddle: Wilder in 6 lol
Space said on 9/Oct/21
277lbs
277lbs
Mickie said on 8/Oct/21
John Fury himself claims 6'3". Interestingly he's described Tyson as 6'8" rather than 6'9" in the past, as well.
John Fury himself claims 6'3". Interestingly he's described Tyson as 6'8" rather than 6'9" in the past, as well.
Mickie said on 8/Oct/21
Personally I don't understand why Fury would need to put on more weight since the last fight, it seemed like his weight advantage was already plenty good... But if he can manage to put on the weight without hurting his speed and conditioning much, I don't think it would hinder him much either.
Wilder has been completely delusional about his excuses and obviously false accusations, but you can never completely rule him out. If Fury has gotten slower or tires out more easily due to increased weight, maybe Wilder can land one of those famous right hands on him? Personally I wouldn't bet on it but the possibility surely exists.
Personally I don't understand why Fury would need to put on more weight since the last fight, it seemed like his weight advantage was already plenty good... But if he can manage to put on the weight without hurting his speed and conditioning much, I don't think it would hinder him much either.
Wilder has been completely delusional about his excuses and obviously false accusations, but you can never completely rule him out. If Fury has gotten slower or tires out more easily due to increased weight, maybe Wilder can land one of those famous right hands on him? Personally I wouldn't bet on it but the possibility surely exists.
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Oct/21
Ah, the big fight this weekend. From within the squared circle of TRUTH, there will be even more photos and vision available for Pierre to necessarily ignore.
Who've you've got? I hear Fury's coming in 20 lbs heavier while Wilder is set to wear another outlandish costume which he might reserve for excuses in the event of defeat. Something to do with lasers shooting out from the suit which I might preemptively guess could be blamed for temporarily blinding Deontay. Maybe I'm flattering an otherwise apathetic Fury but perhaps he's adding more paunch to his punch for extra power and an even faster KO.
Maybe an inspired Wilder sits Fury down early but the Gypsy King hauls himself up to clobber Wilder down as before.
@PIERRE - forget height for a moment, what's your call on this fight? Nail it and you will be duly credited. ;)
Ah, the big fight this weekend. From within the squared circle of TRUTH, there will be even more photos and vision available for Pierre to necessarily ignore.
Who've you've got? I hear Fury's coming in 20 lbs heavier while Wilder is set to wear another outlandish costume which he might reserve for excuses in the event of defeat. Something to do with lasers shooting out from the suit which I might preemptively guess could be blamed for temporarily blinding Deontay. Maybe I'm flattering an otherwise apathetic Fury but perhaps he's adding more paunch to his punch for extra power and an even faster KO.
Maybe an inspired Wilder sits Fury down early but the Gypsy King hauls himself up to clobber Wilder down as before.
@PIERRE - forget height for a moment, what's your call on this fight? Nail it and you will be duly credited. ;)
Canson said on 7/Oct/21
Pierre said on 5/Oct/21
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
How is he 6’6 next to Momoa? That’s clearly almost a forehead difference between them
Pierre said on 5/Oct/21
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
How is he 6’6 next to Momoa? That’s clearly almost a forehead difference between them
Mickie said on 6/Oct/21
They didn't get face to face this time, but I still think at a distance that Tyson looked comfortably the taller fighter at the most recent presser: Click Here
They didn't get face to face this time, but I still think at a distance that Tyson looked comfortably the taller fighter at the most recent presser: Click Here
Nathan Hatton said on 6/Oct/21
Rob, How tall would you guess his dad John Fury ?
Editor Rob
Rob, How tall would you guess his dad John Fury ?
Editor RobSeen him called 6ft 3 in papers before
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 6/Oct/21
Pierre said on 5/Oct/21
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
Yeah a very large fraction. I reckon the fraction I’m question, maybe about 1.5 inches
Pierre said on 5/Oct/21
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
Yeah a very large fraction. I reckon the fraction I’m question, maybe about 1.5 inches
viper said on 5/Oct/21
That Tyson Chandler pic is wild.
Looks like he would have 5 inches on Fury
That Tyson Chandler pic is wild.
Looks like he would have 5 inches on Fury
Pierre said on 5/Oct/21
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Lol to 6"7' by Magic Hafthor and Braun
6"6' more or less a fraction
Mickie said on 5/Oct/21
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
Yeah I could believe 6'7" flat or 6'7" and change. Not 6'6" or 6'9". Lol
frank warren said on 4/Oct/21
Fury is 6'7" rock is 6'2". Fury was always listed as 6'7" until 2012. Cheers.
Fury is 6'7" rock is 6'2". Fury was always listed as 6'7" until 2012. Cheers.
Johno said on 2/Oct/21
I used to have Fury at a comfortable 6'7+, easily over 6'7. However, when I see him with the likes of Magic Johnson and Mike Tyson, I have my doubts on this solid 6'7+ figure.
With 5'10 Mike Tyson, he generally looks over 8-inches, like ~8.5-inches perhaps upto ~9-inches but that makes Fury 6'7 at best and even lower. Footwear could explain this but nothing is certain.
With Magic Johnson, he looks comfortably shorter. I did not expect him to look the way he did with Magic Johnson.
Now, in terms of reflecting back Tyson vs Wladimir, I always assumed Wlad had lifts on because his height was not far off Fury's however, Wlad is likely a 6'5.5 individual but still does not explain the variance.
Hmmmm.
I used to have Fury at a comfortable 6'7+, easily over 6'7. However, when I see him with the likes of Magic Johnson and Mike Tyson, I have my doubts on this solid 6'7+ figure.
With 5'10 Mike Tyson, he generally looks over 8-inches, like ~8.5-inches perhaps upto ~9-inches but that makes Fury 6'7 at best and even lower. Footwear could explain this but nothing is certain.
With Magic Johnson, he looks comfortably shorter. I did not expect him to look the way he did with Magic Johnson.
Now, in terms of reflecting back Tyson vs Wladimir, I always assumed Wlad had lifts on because his height was not far off Fury's however, Wlad is likely a 6'5.5 individual but still does not explain the variance.
Hmmmm.
Canson said on 2/Oct/21
@Mickie: that signals 6’7.25/.5 to me.
@Mickie: that signals 6’7.25/.5 to me.
FriedChicken said on 1/Oct/21
I feel like if he was 6-7 3/4 he wouldn't have admitted to being 6'7 before. Most people would just round to 6 ft 8.
I feel like if he was 6-7 3/4 he wouldn't have admitted to being 6'7 before. Most people would just round to 6 ft 8.
Pierre said on 30/Sep/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Sep/21
@Pierre
Virtually all in ring photos disprove your claim. Not just one as you've falsely implied. Keep avoiding same at all costs. OR, SURPRISE US and actually produce legitimate vision or photos from within the ring with both men in equal boxing flats to give your argument some semblance of legitimacy. Meanwhile, waiting for Hell to freeze over....LOL.
Ok @Tall I.T.S. your pic would be a good proof,Then Deontay around 6"6' and Tyson around 6"9' (🙂)
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Sep/21
@Pierre
Virtually all in ring photos disprove your claim. Not just one as you've falsely implied. Keep avoiding same at all costs. OR, SURPRISE US and actually produce legitimate vision or photos from within the ring with both men in equal boxing flats to give your argument some semblance of legitimacy. Meanwhile, waiting for Hell to freeze over....LOL.
Ok @Tall I.T.S. your pic would be a good proof,Then Deontay around 6"6' and Tyson around 6"9' (🙂)
Mickie said on 27/Sep/21
The Fury and Chandler picture is better in terms of seeing more, but both Tyson's are using odd postures. It would seem like there has got to be 4 inches between them anyway, but it's not crystal clear.
The Fury and Chandler picture is better in terms of seeing more, but both Tyson's are using odd postures. It would seem like there has got to be 4 inches between them anyway, but it's not crystal clear.
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Sep/21
@Pierre
Virtually all in ring photos disprove your claim. Not just one as you've falsely implied. Keep avoiding same at all costs. OR, SURPRISE US and actually produce legitimate vision or photos from within the ring with both men in equal boxing flats to give your argument some semblance of legitimacy. Meanwhile, waiting for Hell to freeze over....LOL.
@Pierre
Virtually all in ring photos disprove your claim. Not just one as you've falsely implied. Keep avoiding same at all costs. OR, SURPRISE US and actually produce legitimate vision or photos from within the ring with both men in equal boxing flats to give your argument some semblance of legitimacy. Meanwhile, waiting for Hell to freeze over....LOL.
Pierre said on 26/Sep/21
Canson said on 25/Sep/21
@Pierre: Kane is closer to the camera than Donovan but it’s clear he’s taller than him. You can look at their full body shot and tell. As for Kane and HHH, he’s clearly slouching in the pic. You should be able to tell that
@Canson Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera here ,and the camera doesn't look particularly high then can give a good advantage to Kane ! Kane is slouching here?!If he lose a millimeter that's the maximum ! Donovan probably even is slouching more than him ,his head/neck looking less straight as Kane.
You talk about Kane and Triple H slouching, but you just forget Hafthor is the guy who stands in the poorer posture of all this guys....
Canson said on 25/Sep/21
@Pierre: Kane is closer to the camera than Donovan but it’s clear he’s taller than him. You can look at their full body shot and tell. As for Kane and HHH, he’s clearly slouching in the pic. You should be able to tell that
@Canson Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera here ,and the camera doesn't look particularly high then can give a good advantage to Kane ! Kane is slouching here?!If he lose a millimeter that's the maximum ! Donovan probably even is slouching more than him ,his head/neck looking less straight as Kane.
You talk about Kane and Triple H slouching, but you just forget Hafthor is the guy who stands in the poorer posture of all this guys....
Canson said on 25/Sep/21
Pierre said on 23/Sep/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson but with all due respect here Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera than Donovan's head .
Here how much tall looks Kane comfortably closer to the camera next to Triple H = Click Here
Here is how much tall looks Hafthor around same distance to the camera as Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Kane around same distance to the camera = Click Here
Sorry but I’m not going to change my estimate for now...
@Pierre: Kane is closer to the camera than Donovan but it’s clear he’s taller than him. You can look at their full body shot and tell. As for Kane and HHH, he’s clearly slouching in the pic. You should be able to tell that
Pierre said on 23/Sep/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson but with all due respect here Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera than Donovan's head .
Here how much tall looks Kane comfortably closer to the camera next to Triple H = Click Here
Here is how much tall looks Hafthor around same distance to the camera as Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Kane around same distance to the camera = Click Here
Sorry but I’m not going to change my estimate for now...
@Pierre: Kane is closer to the camera than Donovan but it’s clear he’s taller than him. You can look at their full body shot and tell. As for Kane and HHH, he’s clearly slouching in the pic. You should be able to tell that
Canson said on 24/Sep/21
@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: I wish the picture with Melo were a better pic and showed footwear. I see a definite inch but not sure if it could be 1.25” if stances were addressed or if Melo possibly had a footwear advantage. I’d imagine Melo is in a basketball sneaker. I can’t tell what Tyson is wearing here. Also wish the pic with Tyson Chandler were a better one.
Click Here
@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: I wish the picture with Melo were a better pic and showed footwear. I see a definite inch but not sure if it could be 1.25” if stances were addressed or if Melo possibly had a footwear advantage. I’d imagine Melo is in a basketball sneaker. I can’t tell what Tyson is wearing here. Also wish the pic with Tyson Chandler were a better one.
Click Here
Pierre said on 23/Sep/21
@Canson = Sorry Canson but with all due respect here Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera than Donovan's head .
Here how much tall looks Kane comfortably closer to the camera next to Triple H = Click Here
Here is how much tall looks Hafthor around same distance to the camera as Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Kane around same distance to the camera = Click Here
Sorry but I’m not going to change my estimate for now...
@Canson = Sorry Canson but with all due respect here Kane's head stands comfortably closer to the camera than Donovan's head .
Here how much tall looks Kane comfortably closer to the camera next to Triple H = Click Here
Here is how much tall looks Hafthor around same distance to the camera as Triple H = Click Here
Triple H /Kane around same distance to the camera = Click Here
Sorry but I’m not going to change my estimate for now...
Pierre said on 23/Sep/21
@Rob = Oups sorry Rob I’ll try to remember it for the other times.
@Rob = Oups sorry Rob I’ll try to remember it for the other times.
Pierre said on 22/Sep/21
For TITS all the arguments/pics/parameters/comparisons that show Tyson under his own guess are bad,that is logical.I'm waiting again his marvelous pic with Deontay on ring looking 3 inches shorter than Tyson :)
Editor Rob
For TITS all the arguments/pics/parameters/comparisons that show Tyson under his own guess are bad,that is logical.I'm waiting again his marvelous pic with Deontay on ring looking 3 inches shorter than Tyson :)
Editor RobAlways best dotting your T's, like T.I.T.S.
I had a page that was flagged (advertising related) the other day for 'seksual content' because it had the name of the tv show Seks Education 3 times on it 🤣
I had a page that was flagged (advertising related) the other day for 'seksual content' because it had the name of the tv show Seks Education 3 times on it 🤣
Canson said on 22/Sep/21
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂
Canson said on 22/Sep/21
Pierre said on 19/Sep/21
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
No I didn’t know that Pierre. But with all due respect, I do know that you don’t appear to know how to estimate height differences and don’t appear to have a clue as to camera angles. That is a lethal combination as it always results in someone making a celeb the height they want him to be (using pics that support their narratives) which I am nicely trying to say without sounding mean. Right sizing is the operative word. In your case, all of your estimates are egregiously low. I already showed you a pic with Donovan Smith and Kane but I will again. Smith measured 6’5 3/4”. He could be as low as 6’5 3/8 or 6’5 1/4”
Kane is clearly the taller of the two. That’s minimum a 1” difference. If you see Smith on the field with 6’4 Tom Brady or Mike Evans (6’4 1/2) he’s clearly taller than both. Kane looks no less than 6’6.5” and could theoretically be what Rob lists him or very near that mark. I will say that I’ll leave open 199cm flat but not less than that
Click Here
Pierre said on 19/Sep/21
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
No I didn’t know that Pierre. But with all due respect, I do know that you don’t appear to know how to estimate height differences and don’t appear to have a clue as to camera angles. That is a lethal combination as it always results in someone making a celeb the height they want him to be (using pics that support their narratives) which I am nicely trying to say without sounding mean. Right sizing is the operative word. In your case, all of your estimates are egregiously low. I already showed you a pic with Donovan Smith and Kane but I will again. Smith measured 6’5 3/4”. He could be as low as 6’5 3/8 or 6’5 1/4”
Kane is clearly the taller of the two. That’s minimum a 1” difference. If you see Smith on the field with 6’4 Tom Brady or Mike Evans (6’4 1/2) he’s clearly taller than both. Kane looks no less than 6’6.5” and could theoretically be what Rob lists him or very near that mark. I will say that I’ll leave open 199cm flat but not less than that
Click Here
Mickie said on 22/Sep/21
I could imagine George Fox being just 6'7", although he said 6'7" and a bit which he also could be. Hard to see him measuring any taller than Fury in these new pictures. Pierre is wrong about the floor, you can see the floor in the pictures with Sugar Hill and it's flat. Maybe he means that the picture is tilted, which it is, but even when you correct for the tilt Fury looks a bit taller. Click Here
Now - it is true that we don't know what shoes Fury is wearing. I'd posit that if they have equal footwear and Fox is a strong 6'7" Fury looks 6'8"-ish there or at worst a weak 6'8" but he's obviously looking a bit taller of the two. If Fury has a significant footwear advantage you could argue he might be about the same as Fox if you removed that, but we don't know if that is even the case. 6'6" for Fury looks like a bad guess if you believe Fox is a good 6'7".
I could imagine George Fox being just 6'7", although he said 6'7" and a bit which he also could be. Hard to see him measuring any taller than Fury in these new pictures. Pierre is wrong about the floor, you can see the floor in the pictures with Sugar Hill and it's flat. Maybe he means that the picture is tilted, which it is, but even when you correct for the tilt Fury looks a bit taller. Click Here
Now - it is true that we don't know what shoes Fury is wearing. I'd posit that if they have equal footwear and Fox is a strong 6'7" Fury looks 6'8"-ish there or at worst a weak 6'8" but he's obviously looking a bit taller of the two. If Fury has a significant footwear advantage you could argue he might be about the same as Fox if you removed that, but we don't know if that is even the case. 6'6" for Fury looks like a bad guess if you believe Fox is a good 6'7".
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 22/Sep/21
Remember, Tyson wears “monster” height inflating boots and stands in long grass (that isn’t actually long grass) that somehow bears and supports his great weight without any give for an illusory height advantage. Oh, Fury also apparently wears boxing boots with height enhancing heel. Meanwhile, Wach wears runners the sole and heel of which amazingly compress to almost nothing under his great weight. Wachy theory, eh?
Oh he’s in boots on long grass. I just thought he was floating in the air
Remember, Tyson wears “monster” height inflating boots and stands in long grass (that isn’t actually long grass) that somehow bears and supports his great weight without any give for an illusory height advantage. Oh, Fury also apparently wears boxing boots with height enhancing heel. Meanwhile, Wach wears runners the sole and heel of which amazingly compress to almost nothing under his great weight. Wachy theory, eh?
Oh he’s in boots on long grass. I just thought he was floating in the air
JD1996 said on 22/Sep/21
@pierre I haven’t just one time measured George Fox, I’ve done it 5 billion times and he’s 6’7” all day long, have a good day ☺️.
@pierre I haven’t just one time measured George Fox, I’ve done it 5 billion times and he’s 6’7” all day long, have a good day ☺️.
Mickie said on 22/Sep/21
@ Pierre - I think George Fox is a strong 6'7". Of course in the photo you chose Tyson is obviously slouching and George Fox is closer to the camera.
@ Pierre - I think George Fox is a strong 6'7". Of course in the photo you chose Tyson is obviously slouching and George Fox is closer to the camera.
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 22/Sep/21
Pierre said on 19/Sep/21
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
Does he really though?
Pierre said on 19/Sep/21
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
Does he really though?
Tall In The Saddle said on 21/Sep/21
@Canson
LOL. Personally, I wouldn’t give Pierre an inch (literally), he’ll just take a mile. Even Henry Kissinger would get nowhere in negotiating with Pierre.
Pierre will and has moved all the realities of Heaven and Earth to irrationally understate Fury’s otherwise reasonably estimated height.
The cart is permanently fixed before the horse. Pierre concludes first and then inanely works backward to try and make the baseless conclusion fit.
Remember, Tyson wears “monster” height inflating boots and stands in long grass (that isn’t actually long grass) that somehow bears and supports his great weight without any give for an illusory height advantage. Oh, Fury also apparently wears boxing boots with height enhancing heel. Meanwhile, Wach wears runners the sole and heel of which amazingly compress to almost nothing under his great weight. Wachy theory, eh?
The jokes just keep coming……. even if not intentional.
@Canson
LOL. Personally, I wouldn’t give Pierre an inch (literally), he’ll just take a mile. Even Henry Kissinger would get nowhere in negotiating with Pierre.
Pierre will and has moved all the realities of Heaven and Earth to irrationally understate Fury’s otherwise reasonably estimated height.
The cart is permanently fixed before the horse. Pierre concludes first and then inanely works backward to try and make the baseless conclusion fit.
Remember, Tyson wears “monster” height inflating boots and stands in long grass (that isn’t actually long grass) that somehow bears and supports his great weight without any give for an illusory height advantage. Oh, Fury also apparently wears boxing boots with height enhancing heel. Meanwhile, Wach wears runners the sole and heel of which amazingly compress to almost nothing under his great weight. Wachy theory, eh?
The jokes just keep coming……. even if not intentional.
ChaosControl 189.3cm said on 21/Sep/21
We have that 2 month old admission from Pierre of Tyson Furt being 6’7.5, he can’t even convince himself
We have that 2 month old admission from Pierre of Tyson Furt being 6’7.5, he can’t even convince himself
Gman42 said on 20/Sep/21
@JD1996 Nice find with the additional pictures with George Fox. I am thinking it is possible Fury has the footwear advantage in this case. Fox's boxing shoes are visible in some pics, while only the top of Fury's footwear can be seen, and I suspect that he is wearing running sneakers. Regardless, in these new pictures (Fury/Fox), Tyson does indeed look about an inch taller.
@JD1996 Nice find with the additional pictures with George Fox. I am thinking it is possible Fury has the footwear advantage in this case. Fox's boxing shoes are visible in some pics, while only the top of Fury's footwear can be seen, and I suspect that he is wearing running sneakers. Regardless, in these new pictures (Fury/Fox), Tyson does indeed look about an inch taller.
Pierre said on 20/Sep/21
Mickie said on 19/Sep/21
*sigh* ... OK Pierre. What is George Fox? 6'5.5"?
@Mickie I hope for your guess he's more than 6"5.5' because the floor is looking in favor to Tyson here ;) .Here is another with floor looking horizontal = Click Here
Mickie said on 19/Sep/21
*sigh* ... OK Pierre. What is George Fox? 6'5.5"?
@Mickie I hope for your guess he's more than 6"5.5' because the floor is looking in favor to Tyson here ;) .Here is another with floor looking horizontal = Click Here
Pierre said on 19/Sep/21
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
@Canson do you know you overstimate Kane' height and Tyson Fury's height?
Mickie said on 19/Sep/21
*sigh* ... OK Pierre. What is George Fox? 6'5.5"?
*sigh* ... OK Pierre. What is George Fox? 6'5.5"?
MichaelMyers said on 19/Sep/21
6'8". As for the thumbnail of the video above, Rock is known to usually wear very thick heeled boots, which is why he may look under 6'8" there.
6'8". As for the thumbnail of the video above, Rock is known to usually wear very thick heeled boots, which is why he may look under 6'8" there.
Canson said on 18/Sep/21
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
@Mickie, Chaos Control, JD1996, and Tall in the Saddle: I’m still open to negotiations with Pierre. If he’s willing to admit Fury is 6’7 flat (I’ll disregard the 6’7 and change as that’s pushing it 😂 😂), I’ll be willing to reduce my estimate for Kane to 6’6 flat. That’s low of course but it’s more realistic. Otherwise I’ll even accept 6’6.75 for Fury 😂 😂 and 6’6.25 for Kane. We would’ve come a long way at that stage
@Pierre: sound like a fair trade?
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
@Mickie, Chaos Control, JD1996, and Tall in the Saddle: I’m still open to negotiations with Pierre. If he’s willing to admit Fury is 6’7 flat (I’ll disregard the 6’7 and change as that’s pushing it 😂 😂), I’ll be willing to reduce my estimate for Kane to 6’6 flat. That’s low of course but it’s more realistic. Otherwise I’ll even accept 6’6.75 for Fury 😂 😂 and 6’6.25 for Kane. We would’ve come a long way at that stage
@Pierre: sound like a fair trade?
Pierre said on 18/Sep/21
@JD1996 have you one time measured George Foxx to claim his 6"7' height?And the floor seems to me in favor to Tyson here.
@JD1996 have you one time measured George Foxx to claim his 6"7' height?And the floor seems to me in favor to Tyson here.
Pierre said on 18/Sep/21
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
But put him at 6"6.5' /6"6.75' is just ignore the comparisons with Magic ,Magic/Floyd Mayweather or by Hafthor and Braun for examples...This comparison by AJ and Mariusz Wach is wonky because it's an evidence AJ has a big disadvantage by his posture plus Mariusz's sneakers plus distances to the camera
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
But put him at 6"6.5' /6"6.75' is just ignore the comparisons with Magic ,Magic/Floyd Mayweather or by Hafthor and Braun for examples...This comparison by AJ and Mariusz Wach is wonky because it's an evidence AJ has a big disadvantage by his posture plus Mariusz's sneakers plus distances to the camera
JD1996 said on 18/Sep/21
@mickie it’s an inch whilst not huge fury is still a bit taller.
@mickie it’s an inch whilst not huge fury is still a bit taller.
Mickie said on 17/Sep/21
Yeah Fury looks taller than Fox there. It's not a huge advantage, but Fury is taller.
Yeah Fury looks taller than Fox there. It's not a huge advantage, but Fury is taller.
JD1996 said on 16/Sep/21
Click Here George fox is 6’7” right? Tyson fury looks taller than him in these photos. Some of you are now gonna say george fox isn’t 6’7” because Tyson is.
Funny thing is when Tyson looked about the same height in the other picture, George fox was 100% 6’7” range. But because Tyson is 6’7” well that must mean fox is 6’6” then. well you can’t have it both ways either Tyson is 6’7” and fox is 6’6” or Tyson is 6’8” and fox is 6’7”. Remember fox himself claimed 6’7” and a bit, and no one disputed that but I bet they will now . Tyson looks and good inch maybe even inch and a fraction taller in these photos definitely not what some people will like to be seeing.
Click Here George fox is 6’7” right? Tyson fury looks taller than him in these photos. Some of you are now gonna say george fox isn’t 6’7” because Tyson is.
Funny thing is when Tyson looked about the same height in the other picture, George fox was 100% 6’7” range. But because Tyson is 6’7” well that must mean fox is 6’6” then. well you can’t have it both ways either Tyson is 6’7” and fox is 6’6” or Tyson is 6’8” and fox is 6’7”. Remember fox himself claimed 6’7” and a bit, and no one disputed that but I bet they will now . Tyson looks and good inch maybe even inch and a fraction taller in these photos definitely not what some people will like to be seeing.
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
You can tell looking at the photo of Tyson and Wach that when Tyson isn't slouching he's at minimum about the same height. W Klitschko said they were about the same height in his estimate, too.
I could understand somewhat if Pierre was trying to make a case for Fury being like 6'6.5" - 6'6.75" which I still think is too low if you really look at all the evidence, but I can sort of understand someone thinking it. To get him all the way down to 6'6" flat requires ignoring a ton of evidence that goes against your argument. He can look 6'8" on occasion.
JD1996 said on 16/Sep/21
@canson I still think fury had got a solid 1.5+ inches on wilder.
@canson I still think fury had got a solid 1.5+ inches on wilder.
Canson193-194 said on 14/Sep/21
@JD1996: it looks 3 cm between them on occasion time but often enough it’s been an inch. If we gave them 3cm I could say 6’6.25 and 6’7.5 being Wilder doesn’t look 6’6.5” all the time. I’ve met Melo and he looked much like what he measured at the draft more than a weak 6’7” and I can’t see Wilder being any taller than him. Seeing Wilder with a guy like Joshua he didn’t look much taller either. I don’t doubt Wilder measuring what he did but just don’t think it’s a low. To me He looks more inline with a 6’6 guy that an almost 6’7”. But easily 6’7 out of bed of course. But if an inch between them maybe
@JD1996: it looks 3 cm between them on occasion time but often enough it’s been an inch. If we gave them 3cm I could say 6’6.25 and 6’7.5 being Wilder doesn’t look 6’6.5” all the time. I’ve met Melo and he looked much like what he measured at the draft more than a weak 6’7” and I can’t see Wilder being any taller than him. Seeing Wilder with a guy like Joshua he didn’t look much taller either. I don’t doubt Wilder measuring what he did but just don’t think it’s a low. To me He looks more inline with a 6’6 guy that an almost 6’7”. But easily 6’7 out of bed of course. But if an inch between them maybe
Canson193-194 said on 14/Sep/21
Pierre said on 12/Sep/21
Mickie said on 10/Sep/21
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here.
AJ do the splits here and so shrunks a lot ,while Marius Wach stands comfortably closer to the camera with a low angle of camera,then finally Mariusz has a good advantage of camera.Tyson has a better posture than Mariusz at 0:19 and I doubt Mariusz has a real advantage of shoe here.The spongious soles of running sneakers are finally slim when a heavy guy is wearing them(I know that,it's my case).Opposite to sneakers Mariusz wears next to AJ that probably give him a real advantage ,this sneakers are not running sneakers imo ,they're looking like tennis sneakers with harder sole.
@Pierre: do you really believe what you post here?
Pierre said on 12/Sep/21
Mickie said on 10/Sep/21
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here.
AJ do the splits here and so shrunks a lot ,while Marius Wach stands comfortably closer to the camera with a low angle of camera,then finally Mariusz has a good advantage of camera.Tyson has a better posture than Mariusz at 0:19 and I doubt Mariusz has a real advantage of shoe here.The spongious soles of running sneakers are finally slim when a heavy guy is wearing them(I know that,it's my case).Opposite to sneakers Mariusz wears next to AJ that probably give him a real advantage ,this sneakers are not running sneakers imo ,they're looking like tennis sneakers with harder sole.
@Pierre: do you really believe what you post here?
Pierre said on 14/Sep/21
Mickie said on 13/Sep/21
Pierre that is non sense about the running shoe squishing down lol. Almost as bad as the longer grass excuse.
Lol @Mickie I wear sometimes running sneakers Nike model T lite.I weight around 290 lbs .Do you know how much help they give me ? = 1.5 cm(0.6 inches) ... Mariusz Wach's weight on web is between 250/275 lbs....
Mickie said on 13/Sep/21
Pierre that is non sense about the running shoe squishing down lol. Almost as bad as the longer grass excuse.
Lol @Mickie I wear sometimes running sneakers Nike model T lite.I weight around 290 lbs .Do you know how much help they give me ? = 1.5 cm(0.6 inches) ... Mariusz Wach's weight on web is between 250/275 lbs....
Mickie said on 13/Sep/21
Pierre that is non sense about the running shoe squishing down lol. Almost as bad as the longer grass excuse.
Pierre that is non sense about the running shoe squishing down lol. Almost as bad as the longer grass excuse.
FriedChicken said on 13/Sep/21
6'7 1/4 with 6'7 1/2 being best case like Lebron James.
6'7 1/4 with 6'7 1/2 being best case like Lebron James.
Pierre said on 12/Sep/21
Mickie said on 10/Sep/21
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here.
AJ do the splits here and so shrunks a lot ,while Marius Wach stands comfortably closer to the camera with a low angle of camera,then finally Mariusz has a good advantage of camera.Tyson has a better posture than Mariusz at 0:19 and I doubt Mariusz has a real advantage of shoe here.The spongious soles of running sneakers are finally slim when a heavy guy is wearing them(I know that,it's my case).Opposite to sneakers Mariusz wears next to AJ that probably give him a real advantage ,this sneakers are not running sneakers imo ,they're looking like tennis sneakers with harder sole.
Mickie said on 10/Sep/21
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here.
AJ do the splits here and so shrunks a lot ,while Marius Wach stands comfortably closer to the camera with a low angle of camera,then finally Mariusz has a good advantage of camera.Tyson has a better posture than Mariusz at 0:19 and I doubt Mariusz has a real advantage of shoe here.The spongious soles of running sneakers are finally slim when a heavy guy is wearing them(I know that,it's my case).Opposite to sneakers Mariusz wears next to AJ that probably give him a real advantage ,this sneakers are not running sneakers imo ,they're looking like tennis sneakers with harder sole.
Pierre said on 12/Sep/21
Ahaha @TITS ,famous pic Deontay / Tyson ! ...You could argue 6"9.5' for Tyson here ....You maybe should nail this photo to the wall of your room 🙂.This pic added to your news arguments finally proves my point....
Ahaha @TITS ,famous pic Deontay / Tyson ! ...You could argue 6"9.5' for Tyson here ....You maybe should nail this photo to the wall of your room 🙂.This pic added to your news arguments finally proves my point....
JD1996 said on 12/Sep/21
Deontay wilder not really looking only 1 inch apart with Tyson fury Click Here
Deontay wilder not really looking only 1 inch apart with Tyson fury Click Here
Mickie said on 10/Sep/21
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here
At around 13 seconds in to this video we get a picture of Wach and AJ (Wach in trainers and AJ barefoot probably about 3 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) then about five seconds later Wach with Fury (Wach in trainers Fury in boxing shoes probably 2 cm in footwear advantage for Wach) Click Here
Canson said on 8/Sep/21
Wach is listed 6’8 on google. They should reduce Fury to at least that
Wach is listed 6’8 on google. They should reduce Fury to at least that
Canson said on 8/Sep/21
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol @Canson the next time you gonna explain me that Hafthor stands in better posture than Tyson here ! Tyson doesn't really lose height here !
@Pierre: I’m sure that some men in their 50s and 60s stand better than Fury. Did you see him on the Speak for Yourself video where he was sitting at the table with Whitlock and Wiley? I posted it last week. He’s slouched so badly that Wiley can look taller. Wiley is not a young guy either but he was a legit 6’4 if not a bit over peak and still looks around 6’4 now maybe worst case a hair under but I’ll stick with 6’4”. Fury exhibits poor posture when he stands and sits. The pic with Klitschko shows it as he’s standing better with him. And the latter is a confessed lift wearer 😂 😂 😂. Maybe not confessed but it’s well known because Fury even called him out about his height
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol @Canson the next time you gonna explain me that Hafthor stands in better posture than Tyson here ! Tyson doesn't really lose height here !
@Pierre: I’m sure that some men in their 50s and 60s stand better than Fury. Did you see him on the Speak for Yourself video where he was sitting at the table with Whitlock and Wiley? I posted it last week. He’s slouched so badly that Wiley can look taller. Wiley is not a young guy either but he was a legit 6’4 if not a bit over peak and still looks around 6’4 now maybe worst case a hair under but I’ll stick with 6’4”. Fury exhibits poor posture when he stands and sits. The pic with Klitschko shows it as he’s standing better with him. And the latter is a confessed lift wearer 😂 😂 😂. Maybe not confessed but it’s well known because Fury even called him out about his height
Canson said on 8/Sep/21
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol Tyson is tiptoeing next to Braun in this terrible pics ! You cannot gain lots of height like here only by forcing your posture especially from a good starting position !
Are we looking at the same picture? Maybe not
Then Tyson would be six nine here ! = Click Here ahahah!
Jason is a good guesser ! Click Here
Umm do you not see how much height Fury has on Momoa? Clearly shows Momoa can’t estimate height if he thinks he’s 6’5 himself. 😂 Lol is he implying Fury is 1/2” taller than him then 😂 😂 😂? Was Fury standing on something and Momoa didn’t realize it? But Obviously Momoa knows he’s not 6’5, but he has claimed it before. So maybe he knows he’s really around 6’4 but do you call that 1-2”? Fury I’ll say is probably not but 3-4” taller so he isn’t 6’9 but yes he’s more than just 1-2” taller. That’s clear from the video, Pierre. Remember that Rob has a pic with Momoa so he’s seen him. If he isn’t 6’4, he’s at least 6’3.5” but I lean toward 6’3.75”. And like Tall in the Saddle said, we’ve seen countless pics of Fury and Strowman. Many at the same event but there was a second event I believe and same thing. Fury was taller. It’s not a lot but it looks about an inch or up to an inch in most and maybe a bit more in one
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol Tyson is tiptoeing next to Braun in this terrible pics ! You cannot gain lots of height like here only by forcing your posture especially from a good starting position !
Are we looking at the same picture? Maybe not
Then Tyson would be six nine here ! = Click Here ahahah!
Jason is a good guesser ! Click Here
Umm do you not see how much height Fury has on Momoa? Clearly shows Momoa can’t estimate height if he thinks he’s 6’5 himself. 😂 Lol is he implying Fury is 1/2” taller than him then 😂 😂 😂? Was Fury standing on something and Momoa didn’t realize it? But Obviously Momoa knows he’s not 6’5, but he has claimed it before. So maybe he knows he’s really around 6’4 but do you call that 1-2”? Fury I’ll say is probably not but 3-4” taller so he isn’t 6’9 but yes he’s more than just 1-2” taller. That’s clear from the video, Pierre. Remember that Rob has a pic with Momoa so he’s seen him. If he isn’t 6’4, he’s at least 6’3.5” but I lean toward 6’3.75”. And like Tall in the Saddle said, we’ve seen countless pics of Fury and Strowman. Many at the same event but there was a second event I believe and same thing. Fury was taller. It’s not a lot but it looks about an inch or up to an inch in most and maybe a bit more in one
Pierre said on 8/Sep/21
LOl @TITS = here is again the pic with Tyson/Braun = Click Here
Here is a guy who visibly lose height at the top of his head because he breaks his posture by tilting a lot his neck = Click Here Click Here .Is Tyson breaking his posture like here next to Braun and really lose height ? Never !
here is a guy ( Deontay again ) who visibly lose a bit height at the top of his head because his whole body leans a lot from feet to head a bit like the Tower of Pisa = Click Here Click Here Is Tyson leaning as much as Deontay next to Braun and really lose height ? Never!
Is hafthor losing height here ? = Click Here Yes of course he's slouching to the opposite side to the camera....Game is over.
LOl @TITS = here is again the pic with Tyson/Braun = Click Here
Here is a guy who visibly lose height at the top of his head because he breaks his posture by tilting a lot his neck = Click Here Click Here .Is Tyson breaking his posture like here next to Braun and really lose height ? Never !
here is a guy ( Deontay again ) who visibly lose a bit height at the top of his head because his whole body leans a lot from feet to head a bit like the Tower of Pisa = Click Here Click Here Is Tyson leaning as much as Deontay next to Braun and really lose height ? Never!
Is hafthor losing height here ? = Click Here Yes of course he's slouching to the opposite side to the camera....Game is over.
Mickie said on 8/Sep/21
Pierre he wasn't tip toeing, you just don't understand how much posture he regularly gives up when he doesn't stand straight.
Pierre he wasn't tip toeing, you just don't understand how much posture he regularly gives up when he doesn't stand straight.
ChaosControl said on 8/Sep/21
Pierre what’s your guess for Strowman?
Pierre what’s your guess for Strowman?
Tall In The Saddle said on 7/Sep/21
@Pierre
Again, keep ignoring what’s put to you, most recently by Canson and Robbie.
You submitted a photo in which Braun’s head is tilted back raising his eye level while Fury is leaning in, losing height and looking straight at Braun. With all that, Fury is still taller than Braun. Good one Pierre, comedy gold. LOL.
For the sake of equity, Robbe replies with a photo in which Fury is also tilting his back but still leaning into Braun. Tyson’s head tilt being the ONLY difference from your photo. Otherwise, Tyson’s ear and shoulder height relative to Braun are EXACTLY the same as your photo so obviously no tip toeing. You make it so easy to expose your insincere methodologies.
Jason has also claimed 6’5” for himself. Are you buying into that? That would then make Fury an easy 6’8” +. Or are you discarding that little cherry?
Rather than discredit it, you only serve to strengthen the case for Fury standing 6’7” +. You’re part of the team and don’t even realise it. In fact, our MVP. Keep up the good work, you might even become an ATG.. Haha.
@Pierre
Again, keep ignoring what’s put to you, most recently by Canson and Robbie.
You submitted a photo in which Braun’s head is tilted back raising his eye level while Fury is leaning in, losing height and looking straight at Braun. With all that, Fury is still taller than Braun. Good one Pierre, comedy gold. LOL.
For the sake of equity, Robbe replies with a photo in which Fury is also tilting his back but still leaning into Braun. Tyson’s head tilt being the ONLY difference from your photo. Otherwise, Tyson’s ear and shoulder height relative to Braun are EXACTLY the same as your photo so obviously no tip toeing. You make it so easy to expose your insincere methodologies.
Jason has also claimed 6’5” for himself. Are you buying into that? That would then make Fury an easy 6’8” +. Or are you discarding that little cherry?
Rather than discredit it, you only serve to strengthen the case for Fury standing 6’7” +. You’re part of the team and don’t even realise it. In fact, our MVP. Keep up the good work, you might even become an ATG.. Haha.
Tall In The Saddle said on 7/Sep/21
@Pierre
Again, keep ignoring what’s put to you, most recently by Canson and Robbie.
You submitted a photo in which Braun’s head is tilted back raising his eye level while Fury is leaning in, losing height and looking straight at Braun. With all that, Fury is still taller than Braun. Good one Pierre, comedy gold. LOL.
For the sake of equity, Robbe replies with a photo in which Fury is also tilting his back but still leaning into Braun. Tyson’s head tilt being the ONLY difference from your photo. Otherwise, Tyson’s ear and shoulder height relative to Braun are EXACTLY the same as your photo so obviously no tip toeing. You make it so easy to expose your insincere methodologies.
Rather than discredit it, you only serve to strengthen the case for Fury standing 6’7” +. You’re part of the team and don’t even realise it. LOL. In fact, our MVP. Keep up the good work. Haha.
@Pierre
Again, keep ignoring what’s put to you, most recently by Canson and Robbie.
You submitted a photo in which Braun’s head is tilted back raising his eye level while Fury is leaning in, losing height and looking straight at Braun. With all that, Fury is still taller than Braun. Good one Pierre, comedy gold. LOL.
For the sake of equity, Robbe replies with a photo in which Fury is also tilting his back but still leaning into Braun. Tyson’s head tilt being the ONLY difference from your photo. Otherwise, Tyson’s ear and shoulder height relative to Braun are EXACTLY the same as your photo so obviously no tip toeing. You make it so easy to expose your insincere methodologies.
Rather than discredit it, you only serve to strengthen the case for Fury standing 6’7” +. You’re part of the team and don’t even realise it. LOL. In fact, our MVP. Keep up the good work. Haha.
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol Tyson is tiptoeing next to Braun in this terrible pics ! You cannot gain lots of height like here only by forcing your posture especially from a good starting position !
Then Tyson would be six nine here ! = Click Here ahahah!
Jason is a good guesser ! Click Here
Lol Tyson is tiptoeing next to Braun in this terrible pics ! You cannot gain lots of height like here only by forcing your posture especially from a good starting position !
Then Tyson would be six nine here ! = Click Here ahahah!
Jason is a good guesser ! Click Here
Pierre said on 6/Sep/21
Lol @Canson the next time you gonna explain me that Hafthor stands in better posture than Tyson here ! Tyson doesn't really lose height here !
Lol @Canson the next time you gonna explain me that Hafthor stands in better posture than Tyson here ! Tyson doesn't really lose height here !
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Sep/21
@Pierre
I paid good money for a decent argument, not a lame one.
First, provide instances in which anyone has offered a photo and deliberately ignored the fact that Fury is tip toeing, playing it off as his flat standing height?
We don’t roll like you. It’s all been said. Strowman’s head is tilted back, raising his eye level to that of Fury’s. Even so, as per the top of their heads, Fury is still holding up to 1” advantage. The ears are much closer to the neck/head pivot so little or no increase in ear height level despite head tilt. Clear difference between the top of Fury’s ears and Braun’s, further corroborated by the difference in shoulder height level. Oh, and while Braun is standing straight with head back, Fury is leaning in off vertical, so he is losing a degree of height there also. That’s a LOT of unchecked boxes on your part.
Again, you literally ignore substantial counter evidence, not even commenting on same, only to drop back in randomly with a cherry picked photo that doesn’t even hold water. However, . notwithstanding the poor quality of your own evidence, it’s always properly addressed and duly dismantled.
The Game Over tag is getting a bit tired, don’t you think? Particularly when it’s not actually preceded by valid arguments or any address of the mounting counter arguments put to you previously. Again, your approach to the question of Fury’s height is completely disingenuous.
@Pierre
I paid good money for a decent argument, not a lame one.
First, provide instances in which anyone has offered a photo and deliberately ignored the fact that Fury is tip toeing, playing it off as his flat standing height?
We don’t roll like you. It’s all been said. Strowman’s head is tilted back, raising his eye level to that of Fury’s. Even so, as per the top of their heads, Fury is still holding up to 1” advantage. The ears are much closer to the neck/head pivot so little or no increase in ear height level despite head tilt. Clear difference between the top of Fury’s ears and Braun’s, further corroborated by the difference in shoulder height level. Oh, and while Braun is standing straight with head back, Fury is leaning in off vertical, so he is losing a degree of height there also. That’s a LOT of unchecked boxes on your part.
Again, you literally ignore substantial counter evidence, not even commenting on same, only to drop back in randomly with a cherry picked photo that doesn’t even hold water. However, . notwithstanding the poor quality of your own evidence, it’s always properly addressed and duly dismantled.
The Game Over tag is getting a bit tired, don’t you think? Particularly when it’s not actually preceded by valid arguments or any address of the mounting counter arguments put to you previously. Again, your approach to the question of Fury’s height is completely disingenuous.
Robbie Murphy said on 4/Sep/21
6’6 3/4 the lowest I go. No taller then 6’7 1/4
6’6 3/4 the lowest I go. No taller then 6’7 1/4
Robbe said on 4/Sep/21
Lol this thread seems to be continued for ever and ever, thanks to a certain french user. Just a quick note. What comes to Strowman vs Tyson, it's a bit unfair to look at just the pic where Strowman is tilting his head upward, while Tyson is looking straight forward. You can get 0.5in more height by tilting your head upward, as we all (should) know.
Tyson is 1.5in taller than Strowman, when both tilting their heads Click Here
Too bad Tyson vs AJ was canceled, left to be seen if they ever meet 🤥
Only 5 weeks, and Tyson will destroy Wilder again. In the same event there is also Helenius/Kownacki fight, which is more open. Helenius knocked Kownacki out in their first meeting (4. round) so it will be interesting to see if Kownacki has learned anything of that fight. Looking forward 😎
Lol this thread seems to be continued for ever and ever, thanks to a certain french user. Just a quick note. What comes to Strowman vs Tyson, it's a bit unfair to look at just the pic where Strowman is tilting his head upward, while Tyson is looking straight forward. You can get 0.5in more height by tilting your head upward, as we all (should) know.
Tyson is 1.5in taller than Strowman, when both tilting their heads Click Here
Too bad Tyson vs AJ was canceled, left to be seen if they ever meet 🤥
Only 5 weeks, and Tyson will destroy Wilder again. In the same event there is also Helenius/Kownacki fight, which is more open. Helenius knocked Kownacki out in their first meeting (4. round) so it will be interesting to see if Kownacki has learned anything of that fight. Looking forward 😎
Canson said on 3/Sep/21
Pierre said on 2/Sep/21
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
So Pierre, why do you only address Fury’s posture and body contouring in pics or lack thereof really but never the opposite person’s? I see you failed to mention anything about Strowman’s tilting his head? And no Fury is not standing fully erect with him. This is Fury with Wladimir Klitschko and then with Jason Momoa. How would a 6’6 guy have that much height on a 6’5 range guy? Even if Wlad is only 6’5 flat which he may be, Fury is 6’7” at minimum
FYI if Momoa is really 6’4” flat like Rob lists him, I could easily say Fury looks 6’8”+ except he is a bit favored in the pic and Momoa is likely a little under 6’4. So 6’3.75 is more likely and 6’7-6’7.5 for Fury
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Pierre said on 2/Sep/21
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
So Pierre, why do you only address Fury’s posture and body contouring in pics or lack thereof really but never the opposite person’s? I see you failed to mention anything about Strowman’s tilting his head? And no Fury is not standing fully erect with him. This is Fury with Wladimir Klitschko and then with Jason Momoa. How would a 6’6 guy have that much height on a 6’5 range guy? Even if Wlad is only 6’5 flat which he may be, Fury is 6’7” at minimum
FYI if Momoa is really 6’4” flat like Rob lists him, I could easily say Fury looks 6’8”+ except he is a bit favored in the pic and Momoa is likely a little under 6’4. So 6’3.75 is more likely and 6’7-6’7.5 for Fury
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Canson said on 3/Sep/21
Pierre said on 2/Sep/21
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
So Pierre, why do you only address Fury’s posture and body contouring in pics or lack thereof really but never the opposite person’s? I see you failed to mention anything about Strowman’s tilting his head? And no Fury is not standing fully erect with him. This is Fury with Wladimir Klitschko and then with Jason Momoa. How would a 6’6 guy have that much height on a 6’5 range guy? Even if Wlad is only 6’5 flat which he may be, Fury is 6’7”
FYI if Momoa is really 6’4” flat like Rob lists him, I could easily say Fury looks 6’8”+ except he is a bit favored in the pic and Momoa is likely a little under 6’4. So 6’3.75 is more likely and 6’7-6’7.5 for Fury
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Pierre said on 2/Sep/21
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
So Pierre, why do you only address Fury’s posture and body contouring in pics or lack thereof really but never the opposite person’s? I see you failed to mention anything about Strowman’s tilting his head? And no Fury is not standing fully erect with him. This is Fury with Wladimir Klitschko and then with Jason Momoa. How would a 6’6 guy have that much height on a 6’5 range guy? Even if Wlad is only 6’5 flat which he may be, Fury is 6’7”
FYI if Momoa is really 6’4” flat like Rob lists him, I could easily say Fury looks 6’8”+ except he is a bit favored in the pic and Momoa is likely a little under 6’4. So 6’3.75 is more likely and 6’7-6’7.5 for Fury
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recapa said on 3/Sep/21
201-202 is good enough for furry i think that he,d someoen like lebron.
201-202 is good enough for furry i think that he,d someoen like lebron.
Canson said on 3/Sep/21
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: lol I’ll negotiate with him. 6’6 for Kane is more believable although he looks closer to 6’7 than 6’6 even today imho. Worst case is he’s 6’6.5” maybe or just a hair under. Fury at 6’7 is a start though. We would have come a long way lol. Btw Fury towered over Momoa and he thought he was 6’5-6’6” 😂 😂. 🤔 guess Momoa’a 6’5” claim is shot (kaboom). Momoa while he does have poor posture at times looks a weak 6’4 guy at worst. Maybe he’s worthy of the Joe Mangianello estimate of 1/4” under the mark since Rob said he can look 6’4 around lunch or near 6’4. That could mean 6’3 7/8” at lunch and he said Mangianello looked 6’4.5-6’5 at lunch. I have never guessed Momoa to be as tall as Jared Padalecki or a peak Liam Neeson or a peak David Hasselhoff. Those guys actually are/were legit 6’4s and I wouldn’t hesitate with 6’4-6’4 1/8 for some or all maybe the full 1/8” for one possibly. Another legit 6’4” is Kevin Pieterson. He looks it in pics and with Rob
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: lol I’ll negotiate with him. 6’6 for Kane is more believable although he looks closer to 6’7 than 6’6 even today imho. Worst case is he’s 6’6.5” maybe or just a hair under. Fury at 6’7 is a start though. We would have come a long way lol. Btw Fury towered over Momoa and he thought he was 6’5-6’6” 😂 😂. 🤔 guess Momoa’a 6’5” claim is shot (kaboom). Momoa while he does have poor posture at times looks a weak 6’4 guy at worst. Maybe he’s worthy of the Joe Mangianello estimate of 1/4” under the mark since Rob said he can look 6’4 around lunch or near 6’4. That could mean 6’3 7/8” at lunch and he said Mangianello looked 6’4.5-6’5 at lunch. I have never guessed Momoa to be as tall as Jared Padalecki or a peak Liam Neeson or a peak David Hasselhoff. Those guys actually are/were legit 6’4s and I wouldn’t hesitate with 6’4-6’4 1/8 for some or all maybe the full 1/8” for one possibly. Another legit 6’4” is Kevin Pieterson. He looks it in pics and with Rob
Mickie said on 2/Sep/21
@ Canson - yeah lol if we could bring Piere up to those figures I think both those guys pages would be pretty harmonious.
@ Arch - it's funny how much information there is about Tyson's dad and how little there is about his mother. Tyson's mother also came from a family of Irish Traveler's who fought bare knuckle boxing etc. Both sides of his family had that.
@ Canson - yeah lol if we could bring Piere up to those figures I think both those guys pages would be pretty harmonious.
@ Arch - it's funny how much information there is about Tyson's dad and how little there is about his mother. Tyson's mother also came from a family of Irish Traveler's who fought bare knuckle boxing etc. Both sides of his family had that.
Tall In The Saddle said on 2/Sep/21
@Canon
LOL. I like it. Rob Kane to pay Fury. I dunno. Pierre’s a hard man. Literally and figuratively refuses to give an inch. If you can pull it off I duly bow to you. Btw, where is our man of late? I paid $10 for a good 10 min argument. I expect my money’s worth.
@Mickie
Yeah, cool clip. Fury has been SO good for the game. The smack talk is for show but he’s a very grounded respectful guy IMO.
The changes in angle though out that clip just goes to show how deceiving certain isolated frames can be. In one particular moment, when Fury is on the slouch, Cooney appears fairly close but all else otherwise during the clip Fury is upholding a solid height pull.
@Canon
LOL. I like it. Rob Kane to pay Fury. I dunno. Pierre’s a hard man. Literally and figuratively refuses to give an inch. If you can pull it off I duly bow to you. Btw, where is our man of late? I paid $10 for a good 10 min argument. I expect my money’s worth.
@Mickie
Yeah, cool clip. Fury has been SO good for the game. The smack talk is for show but he’s a very grounded respectful guy IMO.
The changes in angle though out that clip just goes to show how deceiving certain isolated frames can be. In one particular moment, when Fury is on the slouch, Cooney appears fairly close but all else otherwise during the clip Fury is upholding a solid height pull.
Pierre said on 2/Sep/21
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
Click Here Click Here = Tyson when not tiptoeing = Click Here
Game over . 6"6' range
Canson said on 2/Sep/21
Momoa with Fury
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I’m beginning to believe the weak 6’4 for Momoa. Fury is having on of his “good days” with posture here lol. Lol he thought he was only 6’5 or 6’6?
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Momoa with Fury
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I’m beginning to believe the weak 6’4 for Momoa. Fury is having on of his “good days” with posture here lol. Lol he thought he was only 6’5 or 6’6?
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Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Sep/21
Fury vs Cooney. Not sure if this comparison has ever been highlighted. Fury again losing some height, primarily due to head tilt in this instance. A problematic photo otherwise if you haven’t got a fixed value for Cooney peak and/or an estimate for his height in later years. Gerry was touted as 6’6” but I’m thinking possibly 6’5 1/2” was more on the mark. Suffice to say I am open to finer calibration of Cooney’s peak and estimated loss of height through the years. For what it’s worth, with both properly postured, Fury would hold an easy 2 + inches on Gentleman Gerry IMO. Anyway, at least something to chew on.
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Fury vs Cooney. Not sure if this comparison has ever been highlighted. Fury again losing some height, primarily due to head tilt in this instance. A problematic photo otherwise if you haven’t got a fixed value for Cooney peak and/or an estimate for his height in later years. Gerry was touted as 6’6” but I’m thinking possibly 6’5 1/2” was more on the mark. Suffice to say I am open to finer calibration of Cooney’s peak and estimated loss of height through the years. For what it’s worth, with both properly postured, Fury would hold an easy 2 + inches on Gentleman Gerry IMO. Anyway, at least something to chew on.
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Canson said on 1/Sep/21
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: I’ll barter with devil here 🤔 🤔. I’ll knock 1/2” off my estimate for Kane and give Kane 6’6 flat and split the difference with Pierre if he agrees Fury is 6’7” flat. I can actually see a good 6’6.5 or a weak 6’7 for Kane but who knows? Sound like a fair trade 😂 😂 😂? I won’t push my luck with the 6’7 and change tho that’s asking too much 😂 😂 but fair enough since he has Kane at 6’5”
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: I’ll barter with devil here 🤔 🤔. I’ll knock 1/2” off my estimate for Kane and give Kane 6’6 flat and split the difference with Pierre if he agrees Fury is 6’7” flat. I can actually see a good 6’6.5 or a weak 6’7 for Kane but who knows? Sound like a fair trade 😂 😂 😂? I won’t push my luck with the 6’7 and change tho that’s asking too much 😂 😂 but fair enough since he has Kane at 6’5”
Canson said on 1/Sep/21
@Mickie: agreed
@Mickie: agreed
Arch Stanton said on 1/Sep/21
Ah Tommy Fury's mother is of Mauritian descent, makes sense, I did think he had a bit of an Indian/Pakistani look about him despite the blue eyes, too exotic looking for a full blooded Brit/Irish. I wonder how tall Tyson's mother is, you'd think very tall of course.
Ah Tommy Fury's mother is of Mauritian descent, makes sense, I did think he had a bit of an Indian/Pakistani look about him despite the blue eyes, too exotic looking for a full blooded Brit/Irish. I wonder how tall Tyson's mother is, you'd think very tall of course.
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Sep/21
@Canson
I agree. Making allowance for posture I can see a comfortable 1” advantage for Fury over Carmelo. Too bad it’s another one of those “one off” photos with a given celebrity.
@Canson
I agree. Making allowance for posture I can see a comfortable 1” advantage for Fury over Carmelo. Too bad it’s another one of those “one off” photos with a given celebrity.
Mickie said on 31/Aug/21
I think he can look 6'6" when slouching. But when he stands well he looks 6'7"+.
I think he can look 6'6" when slouching. But when he stands well he looks 6'7"+.
Canson said on 31/Aug/21
@JD1996: he can pull off looking 6’6-6’6.5 in some pics only due to his slouching. You can even tell in the video with Wiley and Whitlock that he slouches in the chair pretty badly. If I didn’t know any better I would guess that he and Wiley who is 6’4” are the same height or that he could be even shorter. He also slouches with Magic. Magic has more footwear on which doesn’t help the perception to...... cough.... Pierre that Magic is not really any taller. He holds onto that picture and uses it as proof that he’s 6’6”. We all know Fury is 6’7+. I don’t know about 6’7.5-6’8” but I would surely say that’s more possible than just a flat 6’6” that he swears he is. My personal guess is the same as Tall in the Saddle and Mickie where we could allow up to 6’7.5” but as low as 6’7. Likely the answer is in between or nearer the higher end though. He looks over 6’7 with Wilder and looks at least strong 6’7 range with Carmelo if Melo is really 6’6.25”. Melo could be 6’6 but could be strong 6’6 like Rob lists him having seen him up close
@JD1996: he can pull off looking 6’6-6’6.5 in some pics only due to his slouching. You can even tell in the video with Wiley and Whitlock that he slouches in the chair pretty badly. If I didn’t know any better I would guess that he and Wiley who is 6’4” are the same height or that he could be even shorter. He also slouches with Magic. Magic has more footwear on which doesn’t help the perception to...... cough.... Pierre that Magic is not really any taller. He holds onto that picture and uses it as proof that he’s 6’6”. We all know Fury is 6’7+. I don’t know about 6’7.5-6’8” but I would surely say that’s more possible than just a flat 6’6” that he swears he is. My personal guess is the same as Tall in the Saddle and Mickie where we could allow up to 6’7.5” but as low as 6’7. Likely the answer is in between or nearer the higher end though. He looks over 6’7 with Wilder and looks at least strong 6’7 range with Carmelo if Melo is really 6’6.25”. Melo could be 6’6 but could be strong 6’6 like Rob lists him having seen him up close
JD1996 said on 30/Aug/21
@canson 6’6.99” when he slouches then 🤷♂️🤣
@canson 6’6.99” when he slouches then 🤷♂️🤣
Canson said on 30/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I appreciate your opinion! That’s about what I guessed was somewhere in the 4” range but it’s a bad pic overall I agree. Chandler is favored a bit.
The one with Carmelo is a bit better. That was the one where Pierre estimated that Melo and Fury were the same height.
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Here’s Melo with Magic
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But he is taller than Melo lol. And the difference looks around the same as Magic has on him. But this proves your point that you’ve made (along with Mickie’s and mine and Chaos’s) that Fury has notoriously poor posture. That’s something Rob has alluded to for a while as well. Melo could be as low as 6’6 having seen him up close but as high as Rob lists him. I’d say an inch between Melo and Fury maybe even a bit more is possible
@Tall in the Saddle: I appreciate your opinion! That’s about what I guessed was somewhere in the 4” range but it’s a bad pic overall I agree. Chandler is favored a bit.
The one with Carmelo is a bit better. That was the one where Pierre estimated that Melo and Fury were the same height.
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Here’s Melo with Magic
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But he is taller than Melo lol. And the difference looks around the same as Magic has on him. But this proves your point that you’ve made (along with Mickie’s and mine and Chaos’s) that Fury has notoriously poor posture. That’s something Rob has alluded to for a while as well. Melo could be as low as 6’6 having seen him up close but as high as Rob lists him. I’d say an inch between Melo and Fury maybe even a bit more is possible
Mickie said on 30/Aug/21
@ Tall In The Saddle - Yes, I think I recall seeing the full length version of that photo in the past but I couldn't find it now either.
@ Tall In The Saddle - Yes, I think I recall seeing the full length version of that photo in the past but I couldn't find it now either.
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Aug/21
@Canson
Re Fury and Chandler. That’s a toughie based on the one photo but it’s all we have I guess. There’s a bit to mentally correct in terms of postures and angle. With said corrections I might guess 4 1/2” but perhaps fair to say Tyson is little bit worse off in actual posture so maybe not a full 4 1/2” advantage to Chandler?
@Mickie
I could only find a full length version for the photo I linked. In the one you’re now referring to you can see a fair amount of Fury’s legs, so much so you might’ve guessed you would at least see a hint of the top of boxing shoes/socks but he still may be wearing same. I also noted how much higher Fury’s knees appear compared to Fox. LOL.
@Canson
Re Fury and Chandler. That’s a toughie based on the one photo but it’s all we have I guess. There’s a bit to mentally correct in terms of postures and angle. With said corrections I might guess 4 1/2” but perhaps fair to say Tyson is little bit worse off in actual posture so maybe not a full 4 1/2” advantage to Chandler?
@Mickie
I could only find a full length version for the photo I linked. In the one you’re now referring to you can see a fair amount of Fury’s legs, so much so you might’ve guessed you would at least see a hint of the top of boxing shoes/socks but he still may be wearing same. I also noted how much higher Fury’s knees appear compared to Fox. LOL.
Canson said on 30/Aug/21
@JD1996: he looks shorter than 6’7 when he slouches. I’m not so sure about 6’7.5-6’8 but 6’7-6’7.5 range when he stands straight. He’s probably on par with Magic Johnson
@JD1996: he looks shorter than 6’7 when he slouches. I’m not so sure about 6’7.5-6’8 but 6’7-6’7.5 range when he stands straight. He’s probably on par with Magic Johnson
Smart 8 said on 29/Aug/21
Hey rob. How tall do you think tommy fury is? Looks like a solid 6 ft to me
Editor Rob
Hey rob. How tall do you think tommy fury is? Looks like a solid 6 ft to me
Editor RobIn the past I've thought weak 6ft is possible, but he looks a guy with a better chance of being nearer 6ft than 5ft 11
JD1996 said on 29/Aug/21
6’7” when he’s slouching
6’7” when he’s slouching
Mickie said on 29/Aug/21
@ Tall In The Saddle - I meant the other picture, the one with Jared Anderson and David Adeleye as well.
@ Tall In The Saddle - I meant the other picture, the one with Jared Anderson and David Adeleye as well.
Tall In The Saddle said on 29/Aug/21
@Gman42
Just saw your post 28 Aug. Scrolled back and saw your original post in July re Fury and Fox. Good find! More pics/live vision if the pair together would be good.
@Canson
Yep, The Gypsy King certainly didn’t protest the 6’7” call on him and he does manage to collapse his posture be it standing or sitting.
@Gman42
Just saw your post 28 Aug. Scrolled back and saw your original post in July re Fury and Fox. Good find! More pics/live vision if the pair together would be good.
@Canson
Yep, The Gypsy King certainly didn’t protest the 6’7” call on him and he does manage to collapse his posture be it standing or sitting.
Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Aug/21
My bad. The prev Fury Fox link I provided requires scrolling down. This link should take you directly to the photo in question on Insta.
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My bad. The prev Fury Fox link I provided requires scrolling down. This link should take you directly to the photo in question on Insta.
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Tall In The Saddle said on 28/Aug/21
@Mickie
This pic shows the footwear for Fury and Fox: Click Here
@Mickie
This pic shows the footwear for Fury and Fox: Click Here
Gman42 said on 28/Aug/21
I'm the one who mentioned Geroge Fox. Go to his (Fox's) IG account, he claims 6'7 for himself right at the top of his page. There you will also see the full length pics of him with Tyson, their footwear is visible, both are in boxing shoes.
I'm the one who mentioned Geroge Fox. Go to his (Fox's) IG account, he claims 6'7 for himself right at the top of his page. There you will also see the full length pics of him with Tyson, their footwear is visible, both are in boxing shoes.
Canson said on 28/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: how much do you estimate between Tyson Chandler and Fury? Chandler measured 6’11.5 but could be closer to 6’11at a low, but I doubt below and good chance he’s a little over the mark. Here he is with Pippen as well as 6’6 Jalen Rose. Lol Chandler isn’t standing straight either
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@Tall in the Saddle and Mickie: how much do you estimate between Tyson Chandler and Fury? Chandler measured 6’11.5 but could be closer to 6’11at a low, but I doubt below and good chance he’s a little over the mark. Here he is with Pippen as well as 6’6 Jalen Rose. Lol Chandler isn’t standing straight either
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Canson said on 28/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle: I was gonna sink in the Kool Aid, oops I mean quick sand 😂 😂 😂. Funny part is you’re absolutely right and that was a very interesting observation. I notice that Whitlock’s contract wasn’t renewed and that was during Covid last summer. I remember Acho didn’t come in for several weeks I think. It’s interesting because I’m no-racial myself (multi-racial really) and I identify as black. I agree with all that you said and well said as always! I would say he looks a bit over 6’7” too. And Wiley calling him 6’7 was likely a dose of reality but the funny part is that Fury never disagreed. He shook his head lol. Not to mention, Fury is slouching pretty badly even sitting next to them in the chair.
@Tall in the Saddle: I was gonna sink in the Kool Aid, oops I mean quick sand 😂 😂 😂. Funny part is you’re absolutely right and that was a very interesting observation. I notice that Whitlock’s contract wasn’t renewed and that was during Covid last summer. I remember Acho didn’t come in for several weeks I think. It’s interesting because I’m no-racial myself (multi-racial really) and I identify as black. I agree with all that you said and well said as always! I would say he looks a bit over 6’7” too. And Wiley calling him 6’7 was likely a dose of reality but the funny part is that Fury never disagreed. He shook his head lol. Not to mention, Fury is slouching pretty badly even sitting next to them in the chair.
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Canson
Phew, you climbed out just in the nick of time!
6’7” isn’t his advertised height so Wiley’s ref. to same sounds like a legit observation/acknowledgement. How about Whitlock’s attempt to drum up non existent racial tension for the fight? The media is to blame for a lot of that stuff, including when Holmes fought Cooney. . Fury shut him down “good and proper”. He might not speak the Queens English in its purest form but he’s better understood than most people. Polite but a straight shooter who gets his point across.
Interesting pics linked by Rob. Fox appears to hold an ever so slight advantage. The “bit” possibly being 1/8th to 1/4” over 6’7”?
@Canson
Phew, you climbed out just in the nick of time!
6’7” isn’t his advertised height so Wiley’s ref. to same sounds like a legit observation/acknowledgement. How about Whitlock’s attempt to drum up non existent racial tension for the fight? The media is to blame for a lot of that stuff, including when Holmes fought Cooney. . Fury shut him down “good and proper”. He might not speak the Queens English in its purest form but he’s better understood than most people. Polite but a straight shooter who gets his point across.
Interesting pics linked by Rob. Fox appears to hold an ever so slight advantage. The “bit” possibly being 1/8th to 1/4” over 6’7”?
Pierre said on 27/Aug/21
@TITS= The first pic?! lol of course I didn't comment on it,it's so obvious ! Magic stands around same posture as your famous second pic(lol!) while Deontay stands as straight as a I ! Nice try again ahahah !
@TITS= The first pic?! lol of course I didn't comment on it,it's so obvious ! Magic stands around same posture as your famous second pic(lol!) while Deontay stands as straight as a I ! Nice try again ahahah !
Mickie said on 27/Aug/21
@ Rob iirc I think George Fox might have had a little footwear advantage there too, although I'm not 100% certain.
@ Rob iirc I think George Fox might have had a little footwear advantage there too, although I'm not 100% certain.
Canson said on 27/Aug/21
Okey dokee back to reality! 😂 😂
Here is Marcellus Wiley a legit 6’4 calling him 6’7”
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Okey dokee back to reality! 😂 😂
Here is Marcellus Wiley a legit 6’4 calling him 6’7”
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Canson said on 27/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. I’m in now. Maybe I’m trapped and sinking further into quick sand! That estimate may dip to 6’5 1/4” soon 🤣 🤣 🤣 . Who knows, if Magic has lost height and is only 6’7” flat now, Fury may only be 6’5 🤔 🤔. Uh oh Rob maybe we need to fix this 😂 😂
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. I’m in now. Maybe I’m trapped and sinking further into quick sand! That estimate may dip to 6’5 1/4” soon 🤣 🤣 🤣 . Who knows, if Magic has lost height and is only 6’7” flat now, Fury may only be 6’5 🤔 🤔. Uh oh Rob maybe we need to fix this 😂 😂
Canson said on 27/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. I’m in now. Maybe I’m trapped and sinking further into quick sand! That estimate may dip to 6’5 1/4” soon 🤣 🤣 🤣
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
@Tall in the Saddle: 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. I’m in now. Maybe I’m trapped and sinking further into quick sand! That estimate may dip to 6’5 1/4” soon 🤣 🤣 🤣
Editor Rob said on 27/Aug/21
Someone mentioned George Fox, that guy claimed 6ft 7 and a bit:
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Maybe a bit closer than Fury in those photos though.
Someone mentioned George Fox, that guy claimed 6ft 7 and a bit:
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Maybe a bit closer than Fury in those photos though.
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
@Mickie and JD
Yeah, it’s a solid, unquestionable advantage Fury is rocking in that clip.
@Canson
LOL. Even in jest, careful following Pierre down the Rabbit Hole where up is down and down is up, etc.. Once in, there may be no way out. :Pierre himself seems trapped.
Tall In The Saddle said on 27/Aug/21
@Pierre
I’ve said before, the game was over for you a long time ago. Controller unplugged, Ha ha he he. The problem for you is this isn’t actually a game where you get to specify preferred physical attributes for imaginary gaming characters.
I linked two photos. Of course you cherry pick and only address one. Be that as it may, in that one photo Wilder is leaning in to the same degree as Magic. No question. Magic is also closer to camera. Your observation is false and I will say, in fact, disingenuous. Your honest judgment cannot be so badly skewed. Furthermore, funny how it’s Wilder who is allegedly always breaking his neck only UNTIL it doesn’t serve your fallacious arguments. Now it’s Magic who’s breaking his neck even more. Well, you know that’s a crock of you knew what.
What about the FIRST photo in which Wilder definitely has the lesser posture? Quiet on the one, eh Pierre? Never mind. Nothing new. You skip a lot of superior counter evidence. All you could come up with is the SAME old Magic Fury pic? LOL, a real one trick pony.
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@Pierre
I’ve said before, the game was over for you a long time ago. Controller unplugged, Ha ha he he. The problem for you is this isn’t actually a game where you get to specify preferred physical attributes for imaginary gaming characters.
I linked two photos. Of course you cherry pick and only address one. Be that as it may, in that one photo Wilder is leaning in to the same degree as Magic. No question. Magic is also closer to camera. Your observation is false and I will say, in fact, disingenuous. Your honest judgment cannot be so badly skewed. Furthermore, funny how it’s Wilder who is allegedly always breaking his neck only UNTIL it doesn’t serve your fallacious arguments. Now it’s Magic who’s breaking his neck even more. Well, you know that’s a crock of you knew what.
What about the FIRST photo in which Wilder definitely has the lesser posture? Quiet on the one, eh Pierre? Never mind. Nothing new. You skip a lot of superior counter evidence. All you could come up with is the SAME old Magic Fury pic? LOL, a real one trick pony.
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Canson said on 26/Aug/21
Pierre said on 22/Aug/21
@TITS Lol Magic is the one who slouch the most in your pic !same pic as your with the whole bodies= Click Here = He's standing around the same posture here as next to Tyson Click Here ...Game over
You’re right Pierre. Magic is 2 inches taller than Fury. Fury, in reality, is only maybe half inch taller than Wald Klitschko. It’s a fishbowl effect that Fury looks taller than his brother though. It’s the opposite. Vitaly is actually taller. Fury is only an inch taller than Lennox Lewis
Pierre said on 22/Aug/21
@TITS Lol Magic is the one who slouch the most in your pic !same pic as your with the whole bodies= Click Here = He's standing around the same posture here as next to Tyson Click Here ...Game over
You’re right Pierre. Magic is 2 inches taller than Fury. Fury, in reality, is only maybe half inch taller than Wald Klitschko. It’s a fishbowl effect that Fury looks taller than his brother though. It’s the opposite. Vitaly is actually taller. Fury is only an inch taller than Lennox Lewis
Canson said on 26/Aug/21
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: I must admit I am wrong. And I’m ashamed of myself for my previous comments. After further research, I have now determined that Tyson is, in fact, actually shorter than Deontay Wilder. I vote that Rob knocks two inches off the listing to make him 6’5 1/2”. I apologize for my previous estimates 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@Mickie and Tall in the Saddle: I must admit I am wrong. And I’m ashamed of myself for my previous comments. After further research, I have now determined that Tyson is, in fact, actually shorter than Deontay Wilder. I vote that Rob knocks two inches off the listing to make him 6’5 1/2”. I apologize for my previous estimates 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
JD1996 said on 26/Aug/21
@tall in the saddle Tyson looks a lot bigger than wilder in your video looks like 2 inches plus here
@tall in the saddle Tyson looks a lot bigger than wilder in your video looks like 2 inches plus here
Mickie said on 26/Aug/21
@ Tall In The Saddle - I agree with pretty much everything there again. There were other photos from the same event with Liam and Conan where the height difference didn't look as pronounced (the one I shared was the most extreme example in order to make my point) but even in the other photos Conan looked like he was a bit taller than Neeson. We could observe the opposite was the truth when they actually squared up and compared heights.
Also in that video Fury looks like he has 2 inches on Deontay.
@ Tall In The Saddle - I agree with pretty much everything there again. There were other photos from the same event with Liam and Conan where the height difference didn't look as pronounced (the one I shared was the most extreme example in order to make my point) but even in the other photos Conan looked like he was a bit taller than Neeson. We could observe the opposite was the truth when they actually squared up and compared heights.
Also in that video Fury looks like he has 2 inches on Deontay.
Tall In The Saddle said on 25/Aug/21
@Mickie
Liam’s upper body posture hints that he maybe leaning or partially sitting on something. Looking at other pics from the same event I see there was a sette/sofa exactly where Liam is positioned.
But you’re right, based on just that one photo and without knowing Liam’s true height you wouldn’t necessarily look for a reason as to why he appears to be standing so short, you might just accept him as is. Strange but the other pics from the same event still had Conan standing taller than I would guess him.
For all that I’ve seen, including your clip, Neeson was definitely taller but it’s interesting to see Conan gain a little bit back when the camera slightly moves from behind the guest to a more square view. I think the regular behind the guest view point often short called Conan a tad but still, self proclaimed 6’4” Conan’s assumption that Liam was 6’5” pretty much matched the approximate 1” difference we saw, Funny, knowing the difference was visible to his audience, Conan tried to squeeze more height out of Liam to save face and Liam could only give him a “wee bit” in compensation.
This was uploaded recently from the table talk for Wilder Fury 2. It seems the uploader is trying to sell the footage as never seen before in any way shape or form but this incident was uploaded as at the time but from a different perspective. This perspective is fresh to my eyes at least. Tysons advantage is obvious IMO, just as it was in the original footage uploaded a few years ago. It’s not bad evidence save for lack of footwear vision but I really don’t think Tyson was wearing anything extraordinary. Also, Tyson’s advantage appears pretty close to the advantage he held in the ring.
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@Mickie
Liam’s upper body posture hints that he maybe leaning or partially sitting on something. Looking at other pics from the same event I see there was a sette/sofa exactly where Liam is positioned.
But you’re right, based on just that one photo and without knowing Liam’s true height you wouldn’t necessarily look for a reason as to why he appears to be standing so short, you might just accept him as is. Strange but the other pics from the same event still had Conan standing taller than I would guess him.
For all that I’ve seen, including your clip, Neeson was definitely taller but it’s interesting to see Conan gain a little bit back when the camera slightly moves from behind the guest to a more square view. I think the regular behind the guest view point often short called Conan a tad but still, self proclaimed 6’4” Conan’s assumption that Liam was 6’5” pretty much matched the approximate 1” difference we saw, Funny, knowing the difference was visible to his audience, Conan tried to squeeze more height out of Liam to save face and Liam could only give him a “wee bit” in compensation.
This was uploaded recently from the table talk for Wilder Fury 2. It seems the uploader is trying to sell the footage as never seen before in any way shape or form but this incident was uploaded as at the time but from a different perspective. This perspective is fresh to my eyes at least. Tysons advantage is obvious IMO, just as it was in the original footage uploaded a few years ago. It’s not bad evidence save for lack of footwear vision but I really don’t think Tyson was wearing anything extraordinary. Also, Tyson’s advantage appears pretty close to the advantage he held in the ring.
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Canson said on 24/Aug/21
@Mickie: lol I love the 6’4 and a wee bit. Conan is always asking someone how tall they are when they come out and half the time it’s an inflation. Liam is 6’5 and Wlad Klitschko 6’6 or 6’7”. He didn’t back down Magic’s 6’9 claim either. He could almost look it with him if he’s 6’4 like he claimed. It’s a 4” diff so 6’8 at least and 6’8-6’8.5 with his 6’4-6’4.5”. 6’3.5 fits
@Mickie: lol I love the 6’4 and a wee bit. Conan is always asking someone how tall they are when they come out and half the time it’s an inflation. Liam is 6’5 and Wlad Klitschko 6’6 or 6’7”. He didn’t back down Magic’s 6’9 claim either. He could almost look it with him if he’s 6’4 like he claimed. It’s a 4” diff so 6’8 at least and 6’8-6’8.5 with his 6’4-6’4.5”. 6’3.5 fits
Dingus said on 24/Aug/21
A bit shy of an even 6'08.00". His reach is listed at an impressive 7'01.00".
A bit shy of an even 6'08.00". His reach is listed at an impressive 7'01.00".
Mickie said on 24/Aug/21
@ Tall In The Saddle - Yeah I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned there. I can see Fury standing taller next to Magic if they were to be photographed or (even better) caught on video together. Consider Liam Neeson with Conan below. If you saw the first photo you would think Conan was like 3" taller than Liam. But on the video we can see Liam Neeson is actually taller than Conan is. That would seem impossible if you just saw the photograph.
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Still not quite sure if Tyson is more of a 6'7" - 6'7.25" guy or a 6'7.5" - 6'7.75" guy. Leaning to the former, currently, but he could certainly be the latter.
@ Tall In The Saddle - Yeah I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned there. I can see Fury standing taller next to Magic if they were to be photographed or (even better) caught on video together. Consider Liam Neeson with Conan below. If you saw the first photo you would think Conan was like 3" taller than Liam. But on the video we can see Liam Neeson is actually taller than Conan is. That would seem impossible if you just saw the photograph.
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Still not quite sure if Tyson is more of a 6'7" - 6'7.25" guy or a 6'7.5" - 6'7.75" guy. Leaning to the former, currently, but he could certainly be the latter.
Tall In The Saddle said on 24/Aug/21
@Canson
Until more defining evidence comes along, I'm all up with 6'7 1/4 to 6'7 1/2" also. I think the recent presser with Wilder has had some pundits receding back a bit from a full 6'7 1/2", some even winding back to a flat 6'7".
The photos with Magic had a similar effect. I think that's fair to some extent, since objective estimators properly take board what they see without dismissing it out of hand or trying to make knee jerk excuses for same due to heavy and unwavering presuppositions. I can only say that how Wilder stood with Fury most recently was very much at odds with how he has stood previously and most particularly, how he stood face to face with Tyson in the ring and throughout their matches.
As to Magic, well it would be nice to see him stand alongside Fury again, full length, with actual live vision to go. Certainly, as Magic has stood beside other celebs who Fury has also been photographed with, I would never calculate Magic to have rocked the apparent advantage he had in the limited photos which were supplied on his own page I think. TBH, aside from their actual photos together, all other relative comparisons otherwise suggest to me that Magic and Fury would've ended up more or less on par with one another and even if Magic did have an edge it certainly wouldn't have been to the degree it looked in their photos together.
@Canson
Until more defining evidence comes along, I'm all up with 6'7 1/4 to 6'7 1/2" also. I think the recent presser with Wilder has had some pundits receding back a bit from a full 6'7 1/2", some even winding back to a flat 6'7".
The photos with Magic had a similar effect. I think that's fair to some extent, since objective estimators properly take board what they see without dismissing it out of hand or trying to make knee jerk excuses for same due to heavy and unwavering presuppositions. I can only say that how Wilder stood with Fury most recently was very much at odds with how he has stood previously and most particularly, how he stood face to face with Tyson in the ring and throughout their matches.
As to Magic, well it would be nice to see him stand alongside Fury again, full length, with actual live vision to go. Certainly, as Magic has stood beside other celebs who Fury has also been photographed with, I would never calculate Magic to have rocked the apparent advantage he had in the limited photos which were supplied on his own page I think. TBH, aside from their actual photos together, all other relative comparisons otherwise suggest to me that Magic and Fury would've ended up more or less on par with one another and even if Magic did have an edge it certainly wouldn't have been to the degree it looked in their photos together.
Canson said on 23/Aug/21
@Viper and JD1996: I think either will fit. But he’s not 6’6” lol
@Viper and JD1996: I think either will fit. But he’s not 6’6” lol
Pierre said on 22/Aug/21
@TITS Lol Magic is the one who slouch the most in your pic !same pic as your with the whole bodies= Click Here = He's standing around the same posture here as next to Tyson Click Here ...Game over
@TITS Lol Magic is the one who slouch the most in your pic !same pic as your with the whole bodies= Click Here = He's standing around the same posture here as next to Tyson Click Here ...Game over
JD1996 said on 21/Aug/21
@viper you think? I’m still not sold on 6’7.25” myself.
@viper you think? I’m still not sold on 6’7.25” myself.
Tall In The Saddle said on 21/Aug/21
Wilder, Lewis and Johnson. Where’s the “Magic” gone.
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Wilder and Johnson. Johnson closer to camera, Wilder breaking his neck and posture, like no other man can, LOL, but still appearing on par? Insane, isn’t it?
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I know, these are “terrible” pics, not worthy of address let alone break down for argument either way because…..well…just because. Hahaha.
Wilder, Lewis and Johnson. Where’s the “Magic” gone.
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Wilder and Johnson. Johnson closer to camera, Wilder breaking his neck and posture, like no other man can, LOL, but still appearing on par? Insane, isn’t it?
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I know, these are “terrible” pics, not worthy of address let alone break down for argument either way because…..well…just because. Hahaha.
Tall In The Saddle said on 20/Aug/21
Wilder, Lewis and Johnson. Where’s the “Magic” gone?
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Wilder and Johnson. Johnson closer to camera, Wilder breaking his neck and posture, like no other man can, LOL, but still appearing on par? Insane, isn’t it?
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I know, these are “terrible” pics, not worthy of address let alone break down for argument either way because…..well…just because. Hahaha.
Wilder, Lewis and Johnson. Where’s the “Magic” gone?
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Wilder and Johnson. Johnson closer to camera, Wilder breaking his neck and posture, like no other man can, LOL, but still appearing on par? Insane, isn’t it?
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I know, these are “terrible” pics, not worthy of address let alone break down for argument either way because…..well…just because. Hahaha.
Pierre said on 18/Aug/21
@Tall In The Saddle That's again a long avocacy , this final terrible pics one more time will not convincing me.Then,Deontay and Vlad wearing lifts...Finally really "6.5' and 6".6' barefoot.... It does not make a doubt for a 6"7.5' guesser of course .So probably Magic wear lifts himself?...
@Tall In The Saddle That's again a long avocacy , this final terrible pics one more time will not convincing me.Then,Deontay and Vlad wearing lifts...Finally really "6.5' and 6".6' barefoot.... It does not make a doubt for a 6"7.5' guesser of course .So probably Magic wear lifts himself?...
viper said on 18/Aug/21
I think 6-7.25 is right.
This listing is a bit high
I think 6-7.25 is right.
This listing is a bit high
Pierre said on 18/Aug/21
@ChaosControl Oh my god!6"9'!
@ChaosControl Oh my god!6"9'!
Tall In The Saddle said on 18/Aug/21
@Pierre
NO offence, but your attempts at reciprocal humor aren't so hot. Anyway.....
Ah, yeah, you DID type Tyson 6'7 1/2". It wasn't that long ago. How could you forget? It was even quoted back at you. I didn't take undue advantage. I read you as being sarcastic.
LOL, you previously said I should re-read your comments as if they weren't properly recollected. I said I don't have to but quite obviously you do. Thank you for the immediate vindication.
Magic as an example? LOL. So random. Like you plucked him out of the "numerous" examples you have in your little kit bag. It's almost always been Magic and the scant photos available (notably no live vision). When you can't deal with the broader and better evidence put to you, you just ignore it and keep looping back like a broken recording, reciting your mantras...Magic...Low Angles.. Hunching....Magic...Low Angles....Hunching. Haha. Too funny.
Funny, I linked the photos below previously. I forecast you invoking your usual, generic, non applicable excuses, like low angle, Wilder hunching, etc. etc. You were exposed. You didn't even break down the vision at all, not even crying low angle. Aside from stating that Wilder was PROBABLY hunching, you just pretended the photos didn't exist because they didn't fit into your Happy Place. Now a number of posts have flowed since and you're back to your non specific low angle rug pull. Have you no shame? LOL.
In your last post, you also blatantly rejected equitable footwear (viz boxing shoes) because you would rather make false claims re variable footwear outside the ring to suit yourself. As far as footwear goes, no one benefits in the ring which doesn't bode well for your false claims, does it? LOL.
Time to get with the program. Break the photos down for us as per your infinite wisdom. As far as evidence of Fury's height advantage goes, they're just a drop in the ocean. C'mon Pierre, stay focused. Don't jump out of gear AGAIN man. LOL.
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@Pierre
NO offence, but your attempts at reciprocal humor aren't so hot. Anyway.....
Ah, yeah, you DID type Tyson 6'7 1/2". It wasn't that long ago. How could you forget? It was even quoted back at you. I didn't take undue advantage. I read you as being sarcastic.
LOL, you previously said I should re-read your comments as if they weren't properly recollected. I said I don't have to but quite obviously you do. Thank you for the immediate vindication.
Magic as an example? LOL. So random. Like you plucked him out of the "numerous" examples you have in your little kit bag. It's almost always been Magic and the scant photos available (notably no live vision). When you can't deal with the broader and better evidence put to you, you just ignore it and keep looping back like a broken recording, reciting your mantras...Magic...Low Angles.. Hunching....Magic...Low Angles....Hunching. Haha. Too funny.
Funny, I linked the photos below previously. I forecast you invoking your usual, generic, non applicable excuses, like low angle, Wilder hunching, etc. etc. You were exposed. You didn't even break down the vision at all, not even crying low angle. Aside from stating that Wilder was PROBABLY hunching, you just pretended the photos didn't exist because they didn't fit into your Happy Place. Now a number of posts have flowed since and you're back to your non specific low angle rug pull. Have you no shame? LOL.
In your last post, you also blatantly rejected equitable footwear (viz boxing shoes) because you would rather make false claims re variable footwear outside the ring to suit yourself. As far as footwear goes, no one benefits in the ring which doesn't bode well for your false claims, does it? LOL.
Time to get with the program. Break the photos down for us as per your infinite wisdom. As far as evidence of Fury's height advantage goes, they're just a drop in the ocean. C'mon Pierre, stay focused. Don't jump out of gear AGAIN man. LOL.
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ChaosControl said on 18/Aug/21
Pierre said on 17/Aug/21
ChaosControl said on 17/Aug/21
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Are you sure?!
Yeah
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Pierre said on 17/Aug/21
ChaosControl said on 17/Aug/21
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Are you sure?!
Yeah
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
ChaosControl 6'2.50 said on 12/Jul/21
Fury is 6’4.5, Wilder 6’3.5, Joshua 6’3
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
Pierre said on 17/Aug/21
ChaosControl said on 17/Aug/21
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Are you sure?!
ChaosControl said on 17/Aug/21
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Are you sure?!
ChaosControl said on 17/Aug/21
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Pierre you yourself admitted that Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Pierre said on 16/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Aug/21
Please turn off the lights when you leave.
No need you’ve already done it 😂
ChaosControl said on 16/Aug/21 Your arguments amount to “I know there’s masses of evidence disproving my point of view, but it means nothing to me because I can just baselessly claim they no it’s they who are wrong”
Masses of evidence?! ahahah ! Next to Magic just for an example? Oh but they are not wearing similar boxer shoes and they are not standing on a ring with low camera so the proof is bad 😂
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Aug/21
Please turn off the lights when you leave.
No need you’ve already done it 😂
ChaosControl said on 16/Aug/21 Your arguments amount to “I know there’s masses of evidence disproving my point of view, but it means nothing to me because I can just baselessly claim they no it’s they who are wrong”
Masses of evidence?! ahahah ! Next to Magic just for an example? Oh but they are not wearing similar boxer shoes and they are not standing on a ring with low camera so the proof is bad 😂
ChaosControl said on 16/Aug/21
Pierre said on 15/Aug/21
@TITS Sorry but I see nothing more than in your previous comment.Your only arguments are = the other have the same opinion as me so that make me right.
Your arguments amount to “I know there’s masses of evidence disproving my point of view, but it means nothing to me because I can just baselessly claim they no it’s they who are wrong”
Pierre said on 15/Aug/21
@TITS Sorry but I see nothing more than in your previous comment.Your only arguments are = the other have the same opinion as me so that make me right.
Your arguments amount to “I know there’s masses of evidence disproving my point of view, but it means nothing to me because I can just baselessly claim they no it’s they who are wrong”
ChaosControl said on 16/Aug/21
Mickie said on 15/Aug/21
@Chaos Control - I think 6'7.25" is a really good guess actually. I've said that he could be a flat 6'7" but I also think it's possible he's 6'7.5" as listed.
I used to think he was 6’7.75-6’8, I’ve been talked down to 6’7.5
Mickie said on 15/Aug/21
@Chaos Control - I think 6'7.25" is a really good guess actually. I've said that he could be a flat 6'7" but I also think it's possible he's 6'7.5" as listed.
I used to think he was 6’7.75-6’8, I’ve been talked down to 6’7.5
JD1996 said on 16/Aug/21
Doubt that he’s only 6’7.25”
Doubt that he’s only 6’7.25”
Tall In The Saddle said on 16/Aug/21
@Pierre
Trying the spin again. You ascribed the photos as being "your" (mine). I duly pointed out that others have submitted same photos with the same conclusion. I also pointed out that there are numerous other "in ring" photos and affording vision floating out there uniformly in support of my conclusions. Because it destroys your claims, you don't talk "in ring" evidence, full stop. Your reply was yet another perfect example of how you talk in pointless circles avoiding the facts and exactly what has been put to you. No more to stay. You're non progressive. Please turn off the lights when you leave. ;)
@Pierre
Trying the spin again. You ascribed the photos as being "your" (mine). I duly pointed out that others have submitted same photos with the same conclusion. I also pointed out that there are numerous other "in ring" photos and affording vision floating out there uniformly in support of my conclusions. Because it destroys your claims, you don't talk "in ring" evidence, full stop. Your reply was yet another perfect example of how you talk in pointless circles avoiding the facts and exactly what has been put to you. No more to stay. You're non progressive. Please turn off the lights when you leave. ;)
Pierre said on 15/Aug/21
@TITS Sorry but I see nothing more than in your previous comment.Your only arguments are = the other have the same opinion as me so that make me right.
@TITS Sorry but I see nothing more than in your previous comment.Your only arguments are = the other have the same opinion as me so that make me right.
Mickie said on 15/Aug/21
@Chaos Control - I think 6'7.25" is a really good guess actually. I've said that he could be a flat 6'7" but I also think it's possible he's 6'7.5" as listed.
@Chaos Control - I think 6'7.25" is a really good guess actually. I've said that he could be a flat 6'7" but I also think it's possible he's 6'7.5" as listed.
Tall In The Saddle said on 14/Aug/21
@Pierre
LOL. That was no tirade. No emotional investment.
It was an imparting of facts. Read properly. I stated Wlad’s listing is acceptable but in the face of the TALLER man Tyson he obviously wore advantage footwear at times taking him beyond his listing. Same goes for Wilder, nothing new. There are no artificial height gains for either parties in the ring. Simples.
The ring photos linked thus far are not just mine, they’ve been proffered by others with the same conclusions. You say Wilder is “probably” hunching and slouching. LOL, your bias screams. He clearly is not but that is just one of your many excuses for any linked photos or vision from the fights.
Just as importantly, it’s the same story for ALL vision and photos from the fights that haven’t been linked, Tyson is uniformly taller in accord with their respective listings THUS you ignore ALL ring vision/photos completely. What, are you saying every second over two fights Deontay was hunched or the angle bad? LOL, you’ve been exposed. Don’t pretend you’re confined to judging only the ring vision that has been linked, vision which is definitive anyway but there are many more in ring examples in which Deontay is falling clearly shorter..
Who would question the regularity of the grass BUT you? Why? Because Tyson stood clearly taller. Still, your claim was duly addressed and debunked. You continue to ignore or modify what has already been clearly put to you so that you can talk in pointless circles of denial.
@Pierre
LOL. That was no tirade. No emotional investment.
It was an imparting of facts. Read properly. I stated Wlad’s listing is acceptable but in the face of the TALLER man Tyson he obviously wore advantage footwear at times taking him beyond his listing. Same goes for Wilder, nothing new. There are no artificial height gains for either parties in the ring. Simples.
The ring photos linked thus far are not just mine, they’ve been proffered by others with the same conclusions. You say Wilder is “probably” hunching and slouching. LOL, your bias screams. He clearly is not but that is just one of your many excuses for any linked photos or vision from the fights.
Just as importantly, it’s the same story for ALL vision and photos from the fights that haven’t been linked, Tyson is uniformly taller in accord with their respective listings THUS you ignore ALL ring vision/photos completely. What, are you saying every second over two fights Deontay was hunched or the angle bad? LOL, you’ve been exposed. Don’t pretend you’re confined to judging only the ring vision that has been linked, vision which is definitive anyway but there are many more in ring examples in which Deontay is falling clearly shorter..
Who would question the regularity of the grass BUT you? Why? Because Tyson stood clearly taller. Still, your claim was duly addressed and debunked. You continue to ignore or modify what has already been clearly put to you so that you can talk in pointless circles of denial.
ChaosControl said on 14/Aug/21
@Mickie no way Tyson Fury is anything under 6’7.25 if he’s 6’8.25 out of bed
@Mickie no way Tyson Fury is anything under 6’7.25 if he’s 6’8.25 out of bed
Pierre said on 14/Aug/21
@Tall in the saddle
...Well I’m sorry to tell you that in fact you have no arguments in your tirade for pleading the actual list of Deontay by your new argument of lifts.Of course by this terrible pics on ring you posted recently with a Deontay probably hunching and slouching a lot you will never plead advantageous shoes for Tyson in any of the events...But now you raise another point, and I thank you about that,maybe Vlad that you supposed wearing lifts next to other boxers is he himself noticiably shorter than his list...About the grass I had no doubt of your answer, not questioning the regularity of the ground ...
@Tall in the saddle
...Well I’m sorry to tell you that in fact you have no arguments in your tirade for pleading the actual list of Deontay by your new argument of lifts.Of course by this terrible pics on ring you posted recently with a Deontay probably hunching and slouching a lot you will never plead advantageous shoes for Tyson in any of the events...But now you raise another point, and I thank you about that,maybe Vlad that you supposed wearing lifts next to other boxers is he himself noticiably shorter than his list...About the grass I had no doubt of your answer, not questioning the regularity of the ground ...
Tall In The Saddle said on 13/Aug/21
@Pierre
Big fail on trying to rewrite and put your own spin on what I actually typed. Fury and Wilder are acceptably in accord with their listings. On occasion, in advantage footwear Wilder approximates to the taller Fury’s height. In the ring, in equal footwear, Fury’s advantage is fully upheld.
See Wlad in the ring and out if you’re not getting this or even if you’re pretending not to get it. Oh, that’s right, you don’t look at any ring vision where the truth lies but notably you are now trying to hedge your bets by trying to unduly shrink Wilder because you know Tyson is taller . Haha. Wlad’s listing is also acceptable, cutting through the BS of his oft favoured footwear which has on occasion seen him stand notably taller than his listing. .
Yes, I am a great deducer of all things. Speaking of theories, among many others, your unevenly grasses soccer pitch proposition was a hoot. Funny, you never return to that little gem.
You can return to your Happy Place which now not only includes little Tyson Fury but an even tinier Deontay Wilder squeaking at your feet. LOL.
@Pierre
Big fail on trying to rewrite and put your own spin on what I actually typed. Fury and Wilder are acceptably in accord with their listings. On occasion, in advantage footwear Wilder approximates to the taller Fury’s height. In the ring, in equal footwear, Fury’s advantage is fully upheld.
See Wlad in the ring and out if you’re not getting this or even if you’re pretending not to get it. Oh, that’s right, you don’t look at any ring vision where the truth lies but notably you are now trying to hedge your bets by trying to unduly shrink Wilder because you know Tyson is taller . Haha. Wlad’s listing is also acceptable, cutting through the BS of his oft favoured footwear which has on occasion seen him stand notably taller than his listing. .
Yes, I am a great deducer of all things. Speaking of theories, among many others, your unevenly grasses soccer pitch proposition was a hoot. Funny, you never return to that little gem.
You can return to your Happy Place which now not only includes little Tyson Fury but an even tinier Deontay Wilder squeaking at your feet. LOL.
Mickie said on 13/Aug/21
@ Benjamin's Jam - if we're talking about measuring directly out of bed, I could picture it.
@ Benjamin's Jam - if we're talking about measuring directly out of bed, I could picture it.
Benjamin's Jam said on 12/Aug/21
Happy 33rd Birthday To Tyson Fury. He gets 6'8¼ from me
Happy 33rd Birthday To Tyson Fury. He gets 6'8¼ from me
Nathan Dabreo said on 12/Aug/21
Hi Rob, how tall would you say his younger brother Tommy Fury is? He claimed 6ft I believe
Editor Rob
Hi Rob, how tall would you say his younger brother Tommy Fury is? He claimed 6ft I believe
Editor RobI would guess under it, though may clear 5ft 11
Pierre said on 12/Aug/21
@TITS = .......So your theory is that Deontay would wear lifts in conferences /face off next to others boxers...So the great theorist that you are has necessarily already considered hypothese that maybe Deontay is noticiably shorter than his list 🙄
(Tyson again 6"6' to me)
@TITS = .......So your theory is that Deontay would wear lifts in conferences /face off next to others boxers...So the great theorist that you are has necessarily already considered hypothese that maybe Deontay is noticiably shorter than his list 🙄
(Tyson again 6"6' to me)
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
@Pierre
I already forecast your nonsensical reply in detail in my prev. post. Non Compos Mentis. Btw, nice non existent breakdown of how said angles are specifically giving Fury advantage. Blind rubber stamping.
The in ring photos, of which there are many from affording multi angles and perspectives, and the accompanying vision ALL tell the same story. Tyson is clearly taller. No wonder you shamelessly avoid them ALL like a vampire would holy water. Hiss, the truth burns. Said evidence is more than credible whilst you are clearly not. You incriminate yourself by reverting back to your same o woeful sneaker/runner photos outside the ring. Haha. Funny and sad at the time.
But who am I to deny you your Happy Place, where Unicorns roam, Pink Elephants fly and a 4'7 1/2" Tyson Fury, dressed in school pinafore and hat, happily rides his tricycle whilst licking an over sized lolly pop? Whatever floats your boat man but always bear in mind, it's your fantasy, no one else's. Otherwise, rational discussion with you re Fury's height is otherwise fruitless. Yes, I slipped the word fruit in again. LOL.
@Pierre
I already forecast your nonsensical reply in detail in my prev. post. Non Compos Mentis. Btw, nice non existent breakdown of how said angles are specifically giving Fury advantage. Blind rubber stamping.
The in ring photos, of which there are many from affording multi angles and perspectives, and the accompanying vision ALL tell the same story. Tyson is clearly taller. No wonder you shamelessly avoid them ALL like a vampire would holy water. Hiss, the truth burns. Said evidence is more than credible whilst you are clearly not. You incriminate yourself by reverting back to your same o woeful sneaker/runner photos outside the ring. Haha. Funny and sad at the time.
But who am I to deny you your Happy Place, where Unicorns roam, Pink Elephants fly and a 4'7 1/2" Tyson Fury, dressed in school pinafore and hat, happily rides his tricycle whilst licking an over sized lolly pop? Whatever floats your boat man but always bear in mind, it's your fantasy, no one else's. Otherwise, rational discussion with you re Fury's height is otherwise fruitless. Yes, I slipped the word fruit in again. LOL.
ChaosControl said on 11/Aug/21
Reece said on 11/Aug/21
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
Hmm interesting. I distinctly recall an admission of 6’7.5 from Pierre
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THIS???
Reece said on 11/Aug/21
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
Hmm interesting. I distinctly recall an admission of 6’7.5 from Pierre
Pierre said on 13/Jul/21
Tyson Fury is 6"7.5' Magic and Hafthor 6"9'
WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THIS???
Pierre said on 11/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
@Pierre
In my last post I mentioned IN THE RING vision and stills and in reply you link photos OUTSIDE THE RING. Feeling insecure when equal footwear is involved, eh? Too funny man. I called it and you fully accommodated the call. You scrambled out of the squared circle asap.
@TITS = I don't talk about your pics on ring just because you know what I think about the credibility of this pics with terrible angles lol...same thing about the rest of your comment...you gonna explain me Tyso never had an advantage of shoes here....very funny!
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
@Pierre
In my last post I mentioned IN THE RING vision and stills and in reply you link photos OUTSIDE THE RING. Feeling insecure when equal footwear is involved, eh? Too funny man. I called it and you fully accommodated the call. You scrambled out of the squared circle asap.
@TITS = I don't talk about your pics on ring just because you know what I think about the credibility of this pics with terrible angles lol...same thing about the rest of your comment...you gonna explain me Tyso never had an advantage of shoes here....very funny!
Pierre said on 11/Aug/21
Reece said on 11/Aug/21
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
@Reece I agree with you!
Reece said on 11/Aug/21
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
@Reece I agree with you!
Reece said on 11/Aug/21
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
You guys are wasting your time trying to change the mind of Pierre regarding Fury height.
Pierre said on 11/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
Outside the ring, how can Deontay manage to appear to break even as he did at the last presser? I think it’s almost become standard for the shorter boxer to chunk up the shoes to approximate to his taller opponent (see Wlad) at pressers and such.
Very interesting theory....Then by the type of the shoes Tyson wears lots of time maybe Tyson is he smaller than Deontay ...
Click Here Deontay poor flat soles Tyson little heel
Click Here Same thing
Click Here Deontay little heel Tyson huge soles
Click Here Deontay poor sole Tyson huge sole ....
Well...
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
Outside the ring, how can Deontay manage to appear to break even as he did at the last presser? I think it’s almost become standard for the shorter boxer to chunk up the shoes to approximate to his taller opponent (see Wlad) at pressers and such.
Very interesting theory....Then by the type of the shoes Tyson wears lots of time maybe Tyson is he smaller than Deontay ...
Click Here Deontay poor flat soles Tyson little heel
Click Here Same thing
Click Here Deontay little heel Tyson huge soles
Click Here Deontay poor sole Tyson huge sole ....
Well...
Pierre said on 11/Aug/21
@Tall in the Saddle= Deontay wearing questionable footwear? Lol he was wearing classic sneakers ! Not Airmax! In your examples the angles of the cameras are "questionable".....
Tyson 6"6' range
@Tall in the Saddle= Deontay wearing questionable footwear? Lol he was wearing classic sneakers ! Not Airmax! In your examples the angles of the cameras are "questionable".....
Tyson 6"6' range
Tall In The Saddle said on 11/Aug/21
@Mickie
I think an absolute low of 6’7” maybe fair though I would probably bottom out at 6’7 1/4” myself. . Too bad people on the other side of the argument don’t display the same objectivity and sensibilities.
As it pertains to Wilder, notable to me is that there are little if no instances at all in the ring (live vision and stills) over 2 fights to argue any less than 1” advantage to Fury all the way up to a quite possible 1 1/2” advantage. Pierre steers well clear of the in ring comparisons, giving some ludicrous excuses to disclaim the solid evidence in favour of Tyson. Pierre needs Wilder out of the ring and in questionable footwear and he knows it. Pierre needs to climb back through the ropes and into the ring.
I think it fair to deduce that Wilder does heel up outside the ring because in the ring, in equal footwear, there it is, a good 1” to 1 1/2” pull in Tyson’s favour in general.
Outside the ring, how can Deontay manage to appear to break even as he did at the last presser? I think it’s almost become standard for the shorter boxer to chunk up the shoes to approximate to his taller opponent (see Wlad) at pressers and such.
Imo, the truth resides IN THE RING with solid rationale in support. Suffice to say, both Wlad and Wilder notably shrank once they climbed through the ropes and faced up to Fury.
@Mickie
I think an absolute low of 6’7” maybe fair though I would probably bottom out at 6’7 1/4” myself. . Too bad people on the other side of the argument don’t display the same objectivity and sensibilities.
As it pertains to Wilder, notable to me is that there are little if no instances at all in the ring (live vision and stills) over 2 fights to argue any less than 1” advantage to Fury all the way up to a quite possible 1 1/2” advantage. Pierre steers well clear of the in ring comparisons, giving some ludicrous excuses to disclaim the solid evidence in favour of Tyson. Pierre needs Wilder out of the ring and in questionable footwear and he knows it. Pierre needs to climb back through the ropes and into the ring.
I think it fair to deduce that Wilder does heel up outside the ring because in the ring, in equal footwear, there it is, a good 1” to 1 1/2” pull in Tyson’s favour in general.
Outside the ring, how can Deontay manage to appear to break even as he did at the last presser? I think it’s almost become standard for the shorter boxer to chunk up the shoes to approximate to his taller opponent (see Wlad) at pressers and such.
Imo, the truth resides IN THE RING with solid rationale in support. Suffice to say, both Wlad and Wilder notably shrank once they climbed through the ropes and faced up to Fury.
Mickie said on 10/Aug/21
There is at least a believable argument that 6'7" could be right instead of 6'7.5". But I think 6'6" is preposterous if you actually look at a lot of evidence. You can find examples of him looking 6'6", sure, but there are so many photos of him looking 6'7"+ out there. The only way you land on 6'6" is if you ignore a lot of high quality evidence showing that he's at least 6'7".
There is at least a believable argument that 6'7" could be right instead of 6'7.5". But I think 6'6" is preposterous if you actually look at a lot of evidence. You can find examples of him looking 6'6", sure, but there are so many photos of him looking 6'7"+ out there. The only way you land on 6'6" is if you ignore a lot of high quality evidence showing that he's at least 6'7".
ChaosControl said on 10/Aug/21
What’s that one saying about pots and kettles? I’d think it applies to Pierre
What’s that one saying about pots and kettles? I’d think it applies to Pierre
Pierre said on 9/Aug/21
Tall in the Saddle = objective analys ?! With you terrible non-neutral angles of cameras ?!Ahahah!
Tall in the Saddle = objective analys ?! With you terrible non-neutral angles of cameras ?!Ahahah!
Tall In The Saddle said on 9/Aug/21
@Pierre
We're playing little game called objective analysis while you're playing Fantasy Height Crush, operative word: Fantasy.
Funny, when Deontay has heel advantage in the ring with Fury in boxing flats after an energy sapping fight, you describe Wilder's advantage as fractional. If the roles were reversed, you'd paint it as if Fury was wearing stilettos. At any rate, you're reverting to an already dismantled argument.
Just gotta have Wilder in his runners, don't you? Don't daresn't judge him in equal footwear. When the "fractional" advantage of runners was taken away and equity achieved, amazing how Wilder dropped below Fury by a good 1 1/2" in the ring. LOL, so much for your fractional argument. Fractured more like it.
Game over? This is true. You were eliminated from the game a long time ago. You wouldn't accept it so we just quietly unplugged your controller to allow you to think you were still in the game. Believe me, works with toddlers every time. Keeps them placated while allowing the adults to get on with the proper business.
@Pierre
We're playing little game called objective analysis while you're playing Fantasy Height Crush, operative word: Fantasy.
Funny, when Deontay has heel advantage in the ring with Fury in boxing flats after an energy sapping fight, you describe Wilder's advantage as fractional. If the roles were reversed, you'd paint it as if Fury was wearing stilettos. At any rate, you're reverting to an already dismantled argument.
Just gotta have Wilder in his runners, don't you? Don't daresn't judge him in equal footwear. When the "fractional" advantage of runners was taken away and equity achieved, amazing how Wilder dropped below Fury by a good 1 1/2" in the ring. LOL, so much for your fractional argument. Fractured more like it.
Game over? This is true. You were eliminated from the game a long time ago. You wouldn't accept it so we just quietly unplugged your controller to allow you to think you were still in the game. Believe me, works with toddlers every time. Keeps them placated while allowing the adults to get on with the proper business.
Pierre said on 8/Aug/21
Here we are also on a ring ,but the angle of the camera is a lot more neutral(around as high as their heads) and Deontay stands in a better posture than in this terrible angles of camera = Click Here .Sorry but even a supposed fraction more shoe will never make Tyson really taller than Deontay here....Game over...
Here we are also on a ring ,but the angle of the camera is a lot more neutral(around as high as their heads) and Deontay stands in a better posture than in this terrible angles of camera = Click Here .Sorry but even a supposed fraction more shoe will never make Tyson really taller than Deontay here....Game over...
ChaosControl said on 8/Aug/21
Pierre said on 7/Aug/21
@Chaos Control = but he's 6"6' !
Why, did you chop the top of his skull off?
Pierre said on 7/Aug/21
@Chaos Control = but he's 6"6' !
Why, did you chop the top of his skull off?
Tall In The Saddle said on 8/Aug/21
My bad. I blame the recent high intensity fruit diet for this excremental mess.
We need some new vision but Fury Wilder 3 isn’t until October. I will say still photos are just a convenient way to point to a specific observation. Some photos are a fair depiction of the truth whilst others are clearly compromised by angles, postures, footwear etc.
The in ring intro photos of Fury v Wilder 2 are near perfect depictions of the truth but some can’t handle the truth without inventing excuses for the purpose of false disclaim.
Watching the actual vision of Fury Wilder 2, I can’t see how any reasonable observer can refuse to acknowledge that Fury is clearly the taller of the two through out, right up to when Tyson embraces Deontay after the bout had finished. See, remove the footwear variable and Wilder is clearly shorter. Obviously some need to get the shoes back on Wilder in order to point back to clearly compromised photos of so much lesser quality than the vision we were afforded in the ring.
My bad. I blame the recent high intensity fruit diet for this excremental mess.
We need some new vision but Fury Wilder 3 isn’t until October. I will say still photos are just a convenient way to point to a specific observation. Some photos are a fair depiction of the truth whilst others are clearly compromised by angles, postures, footwear etc.
The in ring intro photos of Fury v Wilder 2 are near perfect depictions of the truth but some can’t handle the truth without inventing excuses for the purpose of false disclaim.
Watching the actual vision of Fury Wilder 2, I can’t see how any reasonable observer can refuse to acknowledge that Fury is clearly the taller of the two through out, right up to when Tyson embraces Deontay after the bout had finished. See, remove the footwear variable and Wilder is clearly shorter. Obviously some need to get the shoes back on Wilder in order to point back to clearly compromised photos of so much lesser quality than the vision we were afforded in the ring.
Pierre said on 7/Aug/21
@Chaos Control = but he's 6"6' !
@Chaos Control = but he's 6"6' !
Canson said on 7/Aug/21
@Chaos Control: lol
@Chaos Control: lol
Tall In The Saddle said on 6/Aug/21
@Chaos
Unruly fruit combat. That’s a good description for the Tomato Festival they hold annually in Spain. A lot safer than Running of the Bulls.
@Chaos
Unruly fruit combat. That’s a good description for the Tomato Festival they hold annually in Spain. A lot safer than Running of the Bulls.
Pierre said on 6/Aug/21
ChaosControl said on 4/Aug/21
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
Your “proof” is “camera angle and footwear and posture and stuff, I’ll just throw manure at the wall and see what sticks”
No problem this is not me who will wash the wall 🙂
ChaosControl said on 4/Aug/21
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
Your “proof” is “camera angle and footwear and posture and stuff, I’ll just throw manure at the wall and see what sticks”
No problem this is not me who will wash the wall 🙂
Tall In The Saddle said on 5/Aug/21
I know we’re mainly confined to photos to highlight specific observations but in the moment captures can be deceiving as we all know.
However, I really think if one views the second Fury Wilder fight from go to whoa, no reasonable observer can deny that Fury appears clearly the taller of the two from every angle and perspective. It’s obvious at the intro, throughout the fight and when they embrace at the finish. Obviously I wouldn’t link the whole fight and say, well there’s the evidence but really, IMO, there’s is THE evidence with no dodgy footwear to confuse matters. Certainly, at no point did Wilder look equal to let alone taller than Fury.
I know we’re mainly confined to photos to highlight specific observations but in the moment captures can be deceiving as we all know.
However, I really think if one views the second Fury Wilder fight from go to whoa, no reasonable observer can deny that Fury appears clearly the taller of the two from every angle and perspective. It’s obvious at the intro, throughout the fight and when they embrace at the finish. Obviously I wouldn’t link the whole fight and say, well there’s the evidence but really, IMO, there’s is THE evidence with no dodgy footwear to confuse matters. Certainly, at no point did Wilder look equal to let alone taller than Fury.
ChaosControl said on 5/Aug/21
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21
@Chaos
LOL, I didn’t really have anything in mind beyond the word FRUIT. Untimely Fruit Clash is more than good. Off the top, maybe also Ultimate Fruit Crush.
Well the other one I came up with was Unruly Fruit Combat
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21
@Chaos
LOL, I didn’t really have anything in mind beyond the word FRUIT. Untimely Fruit Clash is more than good. Off the top, maybe also Ultimate Fruit Crush.
Well the other one I came up with was Unruly Fruit Combat
Tall In The Saddle said on 4/Aug/21
@Chaos
LOL, I didn’t really have anything in mind beyond the word FRUIT. Untimely Fruit Clash is more than good. Off the top, maybe also Ultimate Fruit Crush.
@Chaos
LOL, I didn’t really have anything in mind beyond the word FRUIT. Untimely Fruit Clash is more than good. Off the top, maybe also Ultimate Fruit Crush.
ChaosControl said on 4/Aug/21
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
Your “proof” is “camera angle and footwear and posture and stuff, I’ll just throw manure at the wall and see what sticks”
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
Your “proof” is “camera angle and footwear and posture and stuff, I’ll just throw manure at the wall and see what sticks”
Canson said on 4/Aug/21
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
@Pierre: Pitt is pretty obvious though as he wears lifts and often looks sub 5’11” let alone not looking 6’0”. I don’t even think Pitt is a full 5’11” myself. I’m usually one who guesses a celeb lower than Rob lists them if you look closely. And I’ve never once attacked you or not done so deliberately. I’ve always been understanding but not in agreement with your views. As for Tyson, I’ve always maintained 6’7-6’7,5 range but not over or under those marks so you can see that I’m iffy on a full half myself. However 6’6 is ludicrous
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
@Pierre: Pitt is pretty obvious though as he wears lifts and often looks sub 5’11” let alone not looking 6’0”. I don’t even think Pitt is a full 5’11” myself. I’m usually one who guesses a celeb lower than Rob lists them if you look closely. And I’ve never once attacked you or not done so deliberately. I’ve always been understanding but not in agreement with your views. As for Tyson, I’ve always maintained 6’7-6’7,5 range but not over or under those marks so you can see that I’m iffy on a full half myself. However 6’6 is ludicrous
ChaosControl said on 4/Aug/21
Re your orange/pun post. Excellent, as Mr Burns would say. I figure if Pierre won’t stand down and see it OUR way, we’ll just have to pun(nel) him onto submission. If he still doesn’t tap out I’m going to have to pull out the big, rough, tough pineapple and believe me, Pierre will then wish he had surrendered earlier. No one survives the big pineapple. His safe word shall be 6’7 1/2”. No need to explain what the F now stands for in UFC.
Untimely Fruit Clash?
Re your orange/pun post. Excellent, as Mr Burns would say. I figure if Pierre won’t stand down and see it OUR way, we’ll just have to pun(nel) him onto submission. If he still doesn’t tap out I’m going to have to pull out the big, rough, tough pineapple and believe me, Pierre will then wish he had surrendered earlier. No one survives the big pineapple. His safe word shall be 6’7 1/2”. No need to explain what the F now stands for in UFC.
Untimely Fruit Clash?
Tall In The Saddle said on 3/Aug/21
@Pierre
I thought Carson’s post to you was very civil, even handed and accomodating re your opinion.. More so than mine but I then am also kidding with you to lighten it up. I give you 10 out 10 for conviction but all other workings I can only give you zero.
@Chaos
Re your orange/pun post. Excellent, as Mr Burns would say. I figure if Pierre won’t stand down and see it OUR way, we’ll just have to pun(nel) him onto submission. If he still doesn’t tap out I’m going to have to pull out the big, rough, tough pineapple and believe me, Pierre will then wish he had surrendered earlier. No one survives the big pineapple. His safe word shall be 6’7 1/2”. No need to explain what the F now stands for in UFC.
@Pierre
I thought Carson’s post to you was very civil, even handed and accomodating re your opinion.. More so than mine but I then am also kidding with you to lighten it up. I give you 10 out 10 for conviction but all other workings I can only give you zero.
@Chaos
Re your orange/pun post. Excellent, as Mr Burns would say. I figure if Pierre won’t stand down and see it OUR way, we’ll just have to pun(nel) him onto submission. If he still doesn’t tap out I’m going to have to pull out the big, rough, tough pineapple and believe me, Pierre will then wish he had surrendered earlier. No one survives the big pineapple. His safe word shall be 6’7 1/2”. No need to explain what the F now stands for in UFC.
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
@Canson = Fact is one more time your arguments are short ,your "proofs" are = lots of people are believe Tyson is 6"7.5' like me ....Before Rob downgrade Brad to 5"11' lots of people were believe Brad was 6"0' ....
Pierre said on 3/Aug/21
@Tall In The Saddle = A good heightgauge would be fatal to your Tyson's guess....
@Tall In The Saddle = A good heightgauge would be fatal to your Tyson's guess....
Canson said on 3/Aug/21
Pierre said on 2/Aug/21
@Canson Yeah I know all the pics that could proof Tyson is clearly under 6"7' are bad for you,"cherry picked pick" etc etc . I didn’t expect anything else from you .
Tyson 6"6' range
You didn’t expect anything less? 😂 😂
Look around closely at this page and the others. Your pics are always critiqued and questioned Pierre. Mine rarely are. I’m not perfect and nobody is but you can’t buck Norms on every celebs in that direction. You thought Kane was 6’5, remember?
Pierre said on 2/Aug/21
@Canson Yeah I know all the pics that could proof Tyson is clearly under 6"7' are bad for you,"cherry picked pick" etc etc . I didn’t expect anything else from you .
Tyson 6"6' range
You didn’t expect anything less? 😂 😂
Look around closely at this page and the others. Your pics are always critiqued and questioned Pierre. Mine rarely are. I’m not perfect and nobody is but you can’t buck Norms on every celebs in that direction. You thought Kane was 6’5, remember?
The In The Saddle said on 3/Aug/21
@Pierre
Haha. Obviously no need for me but Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you kindly.
@Pierre
Haha. Obviously no need for me but Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you kindly.
ChaosControl said on 3/Aug/21
@Pierre you did admit to Tyson Fury bring 6’7.5. Why do people ignore this?
@Pierre you did admit to Tyson Fury bring 6’7.5. Why do people ignore this?
ChaosControl said on 2/Aug/21
Orange you glad we’ve got these fruit puns
Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Orange you glad we’ve got these fruit puns
Tyson Fury is 6’7.5
Pierre said on 2/Aug/21
@Tall In The Saddle = Magic closer than Floyd?! When do you start the carrots diet?...
@Tall In The Saddle = Magic closer than Floyd?! When do you start the carrots diet?...
Tall In The Saddle said on 2/Aug/21
@Pierre
Re-read your comments? Are you trying to torture me? LOL. Fear not, I remember your comments very well even if you pretend not to. Repeat, Magic is closer to camera. I'm not surprised you deny this fact because you do, after all, have Fury, who is in reality standing at a doorway and, MOST NOTABLY, standing taller than you would like, magically zooming up closer to the camera like some horror movie antagonist, about to do you in for deliberately underestimating his height.
All is not lost. We can agree that fruits are healthy. However, I will recommend that you perhaps also munch on a bag of carrots because you appear to be having issues with your vision, particularly depth perception.
@Pierre
Re-read your comments? Are you trying to torture me? LOL. Fear not, I remember your comments very well even if you pretend not to. Repeat, Magic is closer to camera. I'm not surprised you deny this fact because you do, after all, have Fury, who is in reality standing at a doorway and, MOST NOTABLY, standing taller than you would like, magically zooming up closer to the camera like some horror movie antagonist, about to do you in for deliberately underestimating his height.
All is not lost. We can agree that fruits are healthy. However, I will recommend that you perhaps also munch on a bag of carrots because you appear to be having issues with your vision, particularly depth perception.
Pierre said on 2/Aug/21
@Canson Yeah I know all the pics that could proof Tyson is clearly under 6"7' are bad for you,"cherry picked pick" etc etc . I didn’t expect anything else from you .
Tyson 6"6' range
@Canson Yeah I know all the pics that could proof Tyson is clearly under 6"7' are bad for you,"cherry picked pick" etc etc . I didn’t expect anything else from you .
Tyson 6"6' range
Pierre said on 1/Aug/21
@Tall In The Saddle= Lol I never said Deontay was same distance to the camera as Tyson in this pic on ring....You have to re-read my comments about that ....
Magic isn't closer to the camera than Floyd Mayweather here,this new argument is funny,we can see both heads are same distance to the camera....Nice try again...(I like very much fruits,that are good for my health)
@Tall In The Saddle= Lol I never said Deontay was same distance to the camera as Tyson in this pic on ring....You have to re-read my comments about that ....
Magic isn't closer to the camera than Floyd Mayweather here,this new argument is funny,we can see both heads are same distance to the camera....Nice try again...(I like very much fruits,that are good for my health)
Canson said on 1/Aug/21
@Pierre: while we can all appreciate the evidence of him looking well under 6’7” via his posture, we also have to accept when he can look 6’8” at times although I am certain he’s not that tall. If anything 6’7” is as low as we can argue but more precisely 6’7.25 is the lowest effectively making Wilder 6’6” at times as there can be 3cm or an inch. All I’m saying along with Tall in the Saddle, Chaos Control, and Mickie (along with Edwards when he was here) is that you have to accept all forms of evidence and not just those slanted in your favor. If you want to consider only good evidence, it would mean that about 90% or over 90% of yours would easily be disposed
@Pierre: while we can all appreciate the evidence of him looking well under 6’7” via his posture, we also have to accept when he can look 6’8” at times although I am certain he’s not that tall. If anything 6’7” is as low as we can argue but more precisely 6’7.25 is the lowest effectively making Wilder 6’6” at times as there can be 3cm or an inch. All I’m saying along with Tall in the Saddle, Chaos Control, and Mickie (along with Edwards when he was here) is that you have to accept all forms of evidence and not just those slanted in your favor. If you want to consider only good evidence, it would mean that about 90% or over 90% of yours would easily be disposed
Tall In The Saddle said on 1/Aug/21
@Pierre
Nothing new. Pointless reply. Just changing/modifying your prior positions as and when it suits you, aka: dual standards. Low camera height, view point angled up = advantage to taller subject. Period. That WAS your claim when, surprise, surprise, Fury was shown to be clearly taller than Wilder in the ring, both men equidistant from camera. At any rate, Magic is in fact closer to camera than Floyd, so the new twist in your tale is quashed from every angle anyway. LOL, you couldn't get your analysis more wrong even if you tried. Feel free to continue living in abject denial but all you're trying to sell are lemons and no one is buying.
@Pierre
Nothing new. Pointless reply. Just changing/modifying your prior positions as and when it suits you, aka: dual standards. Low camera height, view point angled up = advantage to taller subject. Period. That WAS your claim when, surprise, surprise, Fury was shown to be clearly taller than Wilder in the ring, both men equidistant from camera. At any rate, Magic is in fact closer to camera than Floyd, so the new twist in your tale is quashed from every angle anyway. LOL, you couldn't get your analysis more wrong even if you tried. Feel free to continue living in abject denial but all you're trying to sell are lemons and no one is buying.
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