Guru said on 12/Aug/08
^says on 12/Aug/08
Shaq is actually 6'11.5" look at his LSU stats^
So his 7,1" height is in his shoes?
Alex2 said on 12/Aug/08
Shaq, how tall is Nate Robinson? Ive heard listings from anything from 5'6" to 5'9", thanks.
Shaq said on 12/Aug/08
says on 12/Aug/08
Shaq is actually 6'11.5" look at his LSU stats
LSU stats....
1989-1990 listing 7-1, 286
Click Here1990-1991 listing 7-1, 295
Click Here1991-1992 listing 7-1, 294
Click HereLSU listed him 7-1 every year. LSU Alum now that you have no arguments left, you have to lie? What did you assume I wouldn't just go to the LSU website and check his listing? Wow.......
said on 12/Aug/08
Shaq is actually 6'11.5" look at his LSU stats
Shaq said on 12/Aug/08
Massimo, Rodman is just doing what Barkley did. He claims a height shorter than his actual height to make his rebounding accomplishments at the PF look more impressive. Rodman is really about 6'7".
Massimo said on 12/Aug/08
I heard that Rodman himself said he is only 6'6" barefoot.
Shaq said on 12/Aug/08
willy79 says on 11/Aug/08
Shaq is not 7'! He said it his self he was only 6'11 1/2! End of discussion!
He was joking. Patrick Ewing claimed he was 6'9" instead of his listed 7'0" in Sports Illustrated, do you believe that too?
Shaq has claimed 7'1" FIVE TIMES. I can find a link to each of those times. Nobody has a link to this 6'11 1/2" claim either. I also have a link to Shaq's 1992 pre-draft measurement of 7'1" WITHOUT SHOES. I also have a video of Shaq at 17 where he says that he's NOT 6'11" but 7 foot even. So even Shaq as a teenager was taller than 6'11 1/2". Come on you can do better than that willy79(atleast for your sake I hope you can).
Shaq said on 12/Aug/08
willy79, if that were the case then he would have
Banned me. He waited to upgrade him to 7'1" until I posted a well respected site which stated he was 7'1" without shoes. You also didn't draw a line in the picture like I requested. Here's the pic without the line again.
Click HereIf you're so sure my line wasn't accurate then by all means draw an "accurate" one. Shaq does get a 0.5" advantage from shoes and maybe a little more of an advantage from being a little closer to the camera so if they took off their shoes I could see them the same height.
Shaq said on 11/Aug/08
JJ I'd say Rodman is probably about 6'7" barefoot. 6'6" is too low but 6'8" is too high. Compare him to 6'7 1/2" Scottie Pippen and 6'4 7/8"
Michael Jordan. Rodman is a little shorter than Pippen and atleast 2 inches taller than Jordan.
Click HereRodman also never looked that much shorter than 6'8" Karl Malone when they played against eachother. Basketballreference also has Rodman at 6-7 and they use players initial listings coming out of college.
Click HereHere is Rodman and Big Show(6'11.5"-7'0")
Click HereClick Here6'7" seems right.
Joe the Olympics have Kobe at 6'6", 205 lbs which are his NBA listings.
Alex2 as far as Kobe being 6'4.5" well it's possible but usually he looks 6'4.75" to me. As far as Shaq being 7'0.75" well of course that's possible too. I'm sure a pre-draft measurement could have been off by 1/4 of an inch because that is such a small difference but I haven't seen enough to make me believe Shaq isn't a full 7'1".
Shaq said on 11/Aug/08
If that there the case Willy79, he would have
Banned me. Sorry you have no arguments left. You didn't draw a line on the picture like I asked either.
willy79 said on 11/Aug/08
Shaq is not 7'! He said it his self he was only 6'11 1/2! End of discussion!
JoeFalk said on 11/Aug/08
on the court dennis always looked the same height of scottie pippen, i guess he is really 6'8'' i don't know why ppl wanna downgrade his height, same for charles barkley after all
Guru said on 11/Aug/08
Shaq looks 7,1" and probably is 7,1" period. End of discussion!
JoeFalk said on 11/Aug/08
olympics site say that bryant is 6'6.5'' 199 cm
lol
JJ said on 10/Aug/08
Shaq, do you know Dennis Rodman's barefoot height? I've heard 6'6", 6'7" and 6'8" Since you have by far posted the most accurate links and information on this site I thought my best bet would be to ask your opinion.
willy79 said on 10/Aug/08
He upgraded it because he probably got tired of hearing you cry ing, "please Rob, please make Shaq 7'1!"
Shaq said on 10/Aug/08
willy79 you didn't take my challenge. If you're so sure then draw a line yourself.
Here's the picture without the line.
Click HereIf you're so sure my line is inaccurate then by all means draw a line yourself...I'm waiting.
By the way Shaq was measured 7'1" at the 1992 pre-draft camp. I've provided links to that which is why Rob upgraded him to 7'1". Even prior to that when Shaq was listed here as 7'0" Rob thought I'd provided enough picture evidence alone that he upgraded Shaq to 7'0.5".
Willy what's the number at the end of your screename for? Your IQ?
Shaq said on 9/Aug/08
After looking at the Nowitzki picture a little more I'd say that could be 2 inches. Shaq is look down slightly and compare their eye level. Shaq doesn't have a small forehead either.
Dirk is 6'11"-6'11.5" and Shaq is obviously 7'1". I don't buy 7'0" for Dirk though. He's listed at 2.14 M by the Olympics surprisingly.
willy79 said on 9/Aug/08
I figured as much. So here you are trying to convince the world that O'Neal is 7'1, LOL!!!!! Ok, then I guess Wilt was 7'3 and Andre 7'2 and a half with Khali, LOL!!!!!! You say Isu alum shouldn't be taken serious but your bs Dave Meltzer style proof everyone should hold with a grain of salt. The fact that you can not see that in the Wilt and Shaq pic, Wilt is taller!!!!!!!!1 LOL!~
Alex2 said on 9/Aug/08
Shaq, from your pics, Kobe looks 6'4.5" tops, and if he said hes 6'4" then likely he could be? As for Shaq, maybe 7'0.75" would be most accurate?
Shaq said on 9/Aug/08
You don't know the difference between "you're" and "your" because you have a secretary? That makes NO sense, same with everything else you say. Now I don't know what your intentions are on this page but if you are still here to argue Shaq's height then find some good sources and links that back up your point. If not then stop posting because otherwise NOBODY will take you seriously.
lsu alum said on 8/Aug/08
shaq you are an idiot.iwas 19 when i started working out at foxys health club in baton rouge.i did train with several pro wrestlers,i could care less if you believe me.i first attended la. tech,i left,and worked several yrs.before returning to school at lsu.as for my typos well i have a secretary do most of my typing.by the way,what's your educational background.what kind of an education do you need to work at mcdonalds.
Shaq said on 8/Aug/08
That's only a 4 or 5 cm difference. That backs up Dirk at 6'11.5". I emailed Nowitzki's official site and asked how tall he was barefoot and they replied 2.13 M but I suspect they are just repeating his listed height. Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has claimed Dirk is 7'0" barefoot and 7'1 1/2" in shoes but I don't believe that either.
Dirk is probably 6'11.5" barefoot and 7'1" in shoes.
Massimo said on 8/Aug/08
I have just found an interesting picture:
Click HereWhat do you think guys ? IMO Shaq looks about 5 cm taller
than Dirk Nowitzy.
Shaq said on 8/Aug/08
Hahah back for more embarrassment lsu alum?
Lets review.
1.You stated to have been at LSU at the same time as Shaq yet you have always claimed to have trained with several wrestlers during the early 80's. Hmmm that would make you in your early teens at the oldest when you were training with those wrestlers?
2.You also have claimed to have witnessed Shaq getting measured and at first claimed that it was at the pre-draft camp. You later changed your story to it being a measurement from his last season at LSU.
Draft Express is a well respected site. It's a very valid link.
What links have you posted to back up your claims? NONE.
Massimo said on 7/Aug/08
I think 6'4" is more likely than 6'4" 3/4. Come on, he is only a few atoms taller than Dwyane Wade and slightly shorter than
Michael Jordan.
MJ looked a little taller than Italiano soccer player Marco Materazzi, who is listed as 1.93.
My best guess is:
MJ: 1.95
KB: 1.93
DW: 1.92
Regarding Muresan, he is certainly one of the 4 tallest players in NBA history, he is at least 7'5". But I'm surprised that there isn't any clear picture of him next to other 7 footers. Didn't he play in the same era as Manute Bol ? The only clear picture of him I have seen so far is the one with Bradley and, even taking into account that Shawn was standing as straight as possible and Gheorghe not...I just fail to see Muresan taller than Bradley.
He looked pretty close in height to Sun Ming Ming though. Gheorghe is somewhere between 7'5" and 7'7". Where exactly, I'm not sure.
Also, I know that he was definitely a good player and I'm surprised that there isn't much about him on You Tube. Not even a complete quarter of a game.
Shaq said on 7/Aug/08
Kobe isn't more than 6'4 3/4". He is barely taller than 6'3 3/4" Dwyane Wade.
Click Here Click HereKobe isn't any taller than 6'4 7/8"
Michael JordanClick HereClick HereKobe's wife said she measured him at 6'4 3/4" and Kobe said that he's "probably 6-5 in sneaks"
Click HereKobe also said that he's really 6'4"
Click HereKobe's height is not a real mystery. He's listed 6'6", many NBA listed heights are in shoes and most basketball shoes add about 1.25" inches. There you go 6'6"-1.25"=6'4.75"
Clay said on 7/Aug/08
In reality Kobe Bryant is a strong 6'5''.
Massimo said on 5/Aug/08
Dwane Wade once said that Kobe Bryant is just a tad taller than him. So, this is the truth, whatever "tad" means! If you are sceptical, just ask Carl Williams!
Jordan said on 5/Aug/08
Kobe is really 6,4 3/4 barefoot. They listed him 6'6" in shoes
Shaq said on 4/Aug/08
zerstoren says on 3/Aug/08
kobe is much taller than 6,4 3/4
No he isn't
zerstoren said on 3/Aug/08
kobe is much taller than 6,4 3/4
Shaq said on 1/Aug/08
Sounds right Massimo. Duncan seems about 6'10.5"/6'10.75" and that makes sense for his current 6'11" listing and it makes him about 7'0" in shoes which is why he was listed that height for his first 8 seasons.
Duncan with 6'4 3/4" Kobe and 6'11"-6'11.5" Dirk.
Click HereDuncan looks about the same height as Dirk and atleast 6 inches taller than Kobe.
Massimo said on 1/Aug/08
I have just shown to my mother some height-comparison pictures between Robinson and Duncan and she sees 3 or max 4 cm between the 2 of them. So, if Robinson is a legittimate 7', Tim is 2.09 or 2.10. Maybe my mother is right, who knows ? By the way, she is 1.52.
Kenny said on 1/Aug/08
In this picture shaq's got advantage coz is one step close to the camera than Wilt.
Shaq's head is huge and bigger than Wilt's head, but Wilt has got eye and shoulder level higher than Shaq's, Wilt surely play taller and maybe he's got longer arms than Super Shaq!
Yeah Wilt Chamberlain has a small head for his big body just like Dwight Howard. Wilt would be 7,2 (rather than only 7,1") if he had a head that was proportioned to his body.
Shaq said on 31/Jul/08
I'd also say T-Mac is over 6'7" now. I think he grew from his pre-draft height.
Shaq said on 31/Jul/08
Duncan was listed in college at 6'10", but the Spurs claimed that he measured 6'11 1/2" barefoot.
Duncan is about an inch shorter than 7'0" David Robinson.
Click HereDuncan is 2-3 inches taller than 6'7.75" Carlos Boozer.
Click HereThis is the one confusing picture. Duncan is atleast 4 inches shorter than 7'1" Shaq.
Click Here Click HereDuncan is atleast 6'10" though and possibly close to 6'11".
Shaq towers over 6'9.5" Bill Russell
Click HereRussell measures up well to just about everyone he poses with except for Shaq and Kareem.
Shaq said on 31/Jul/08
Massimo, Duncan is about 6'10"-6'10.5" and Bargnani is the same. Bosh grew to 6'11" which is why he's taller than Bargnani.
Massimo said on 31/Jul/08
Salva11-
I think Bargnani is a shade under 6'10", he is shorter than Chris Bosh.
To me Muresan can't be over 2.28 and Duncan can't be over 2.08.
T- Mac is 1.99 or maybe even 1.98, he ain't that much taller than Bryant.
And so on for some of the others.
Salva11 said on 31/Jul/08
In this picture shaq's got advantage coz is one step close to the camera than Wilt.
Shaq's head is huge and bigger than Wilt's head, but Wilt has got eye and shoulder level higher than Shaq's, Wilt surely play taller and maybe he's got longer arms than Super Shaq!
For me Shaq is 216 cm barefoot and Wilt 217...
Dirk 213
Garnett 213
Gasol 215
Bargnani 212
Duncan 210
Sabonis 220
Ilgauskas 218
Tkachenko 222 with bad posture , with a normal posture i think he was 226 minumun, his weight was 150 kg of muscle...
Muresan 232
Yao 227
Bradley 228
Bol 230
Kareem 218
Rouzbahani 226
Bosh 211
LeBron 203
Wade 192
TMac 200
Carter 197
Duenas 221
Big Show 213
Andre the Giant 212
Great Khali 216
Shaq said on 30/Jul/08
I've rotated the Shaq/Wilt pics slightly to take out the advantage Wilt gets from the slight angle the picture is on.
Click HereAnother Shaq and Hakeem picture.
Click HereKeep in mind Shaq is slouching while Hakeem is closer to the camera and standing up straight yet Shaq is still a couple of inches taller.
Click HereHere is the Shaq, Hakeem and Payton picture.
Click Here
allen4 said on 30/Jul/08
i'm the first to upload this ewing/shaq/chamberlain picture on the net from my french book "les supers champions du basket nba 1993";i'm not scan this picture,i take a photo in the book.....is not the better angle for this picture,and when i look the book forward me,wilt is a lil' taller than shaq........shaq is 22 years old and wilt is 57 on this pic,in is prime wilt is 216,5cm,i think in this pic whit city shoes is 214,5/215(barefoot) with disaventage,shaq
Reebok bball shoes is 217cm and 214,5/215cm barefoot.......
Click HereClick Hereshaq is defenitly around 214/216 and the best estimate barefoot is 214,5/215cm...........
Shaq said on 30/Jul/08
Salva11 look at the lines on Shaq and Wilt's heads in the second picture. Shaq is taller by about an inch, although he does have 1/2 inch to an inch advantage in footwear.
JoeFalk said on 30/Jul/08
sometimes city shoes give more height than normal shoes, anyway in his prime wilt was for sure taller than shaq, pure 7'1.25'' barefoot
Massimo said on 30/Jul/08
Changing subject more a moment, how tall do you think Duncan is ? I was watching some pictures on gettyimages and he looks to me only 3 cm max taller than 6'8" Robert Horry. He also doesn't look that much taller than LeBron James. But he looks taller next to other guys like Carlos Boozer, Tracy Mc Grady and he looks only about 1 or 1 and a half inches shorter than KG. It's quite confusing. My overall impression is that he is 6'10" max, but he might be a little shorter than that. I think it's quite unlikely that he is anything over 6'10". It's also weird that he was listed at 8' feet for most of his career.
Rocky said on 29/Jul/08
Shaq, don't forget, the Lakers might even have a 6'9'' Sun Yue at PG next year, haha.
Shaq said on 29/Jul/08
Shaq looks right at 7'1" with Chamberlain.
Click HereClick HereYou can see in the second picture that Shaq's head makes him about half an inch or an inch taller. I don't know how about Wilt had shrunk from his peak height of 7'1 1/16" or how much of a footwear advantage Shaq had but regardless Shaq was clearly taller in those pictures.
The interesting thing is that Shaq's shoulder level and even eye level are lower than Wilt's. He gains the height advantage because of his much bigger forehead.
Massimo said on 29/Jul/08
If you look in gettyimages under "Hakeem Olajuwon" there is a very clear picture at page 11 with Shaq, Payton and Olajuwon where Shaq looks WAY taller than Hakeem. There is such a difference between the two of them that it might make you doubt that "The Dream" is a legittimate 6'10". But there is also another picture where Olajuwon looks a couple of inches taller than Robert Horry. And Horry was measured at 6'8" when he was drafted and listed at 6'10" his entire career. The only pictures where Shaq doesn't look as tall as I would expect are the ones with Jabbar and Chamberlain. But, however, anything below 7' is extremely unlikely for Shaq and there is a good chance he is a full 7'1" barefoot.
Salva11 said on 29/Jul/08
Shaq is the best!!! 7,1" giant 360 pounds of agility athleticism and terrific power!!! In the sports history only Wilt Chamberlain is a better athlete...
Shaq said on 28/Jul/08
From Shaq's autobiography.
"When you're 7'1" and weigh 330-something, you're supposed to be big and strong."
Page 1
"How do I get to be 7'1"?"
Page 5
Click HereSo there you have it, two more 7'1" claims. He says he was 6'11" as a sophomore in highschool.
Shaq said on 28/Jul/08
Good video Massimo. At 0:06 Shaq has atleast 2 inches on Hakeem despite not having as good posture. At 0:12 Shaq has atleast 3 inches on Hakeem.
These are all of the pictures available of Hakeem and Shaq.
Click HereClick HereClick HereClick HereIn the first picture Shaq has about 3-4 inches on Hakeem, in the second picture he has about 3 inches on Hakeem, in the 3rd picture he has about 2 inches on Hakeem and in the 4th picture he has about 5 inches on Hakeem. So on average he has just over 3 inches on Hakeem.
So Shaq at 7'1" and Hakeem at 6'10" makes sense.
Lg69 said on 27/Jul/08
Sampson is not 7'4". Next to 6'10"-6'11"(max) Olajuwon, I'd say he is no more than 7'2". Btw, my 6'9" nephew met Shaq and said he's not more than 7'0.
Shaq said on 27/Jul/08
lsu alum says on 27/Jul/08
nothingg from shaq in a day.he must be very busy because mcdonalds has a special on big macs.he's got to cook those burgers.
lsu alum why don't you try making a good argument against Shaq being 7'1" for a change. I bet you can't come up with a good argument against him being over 7 feet.
Shaq said on 27/Jul/08
Kenny, Shaq's pre-draft measurement showed his weight at 303 pounds. He weighed in at 332 prior to the 1995-1996 season, he weighed 340 prior to the 1999-2000 season, I've read he was even weighed at 382 prior to the 2002 playoffs. In recent years he's slimmed down a bit again. He weighed 327 prior to his first season with Miami, 345 the next season and he was weighed at 321 at his physical after the trade to Phoenix.
Kenny said on 27/Jul/08
Yeah, Shaq's got a huge head...I think his hats (like his shoes) have to be custom made! BTW, how much did Shaq weigh before the NBA? I think only 280lbs but that's still huge. Now he weighs around 320lbs at least...
Shaq said on 27/Jul/08
You do realize that the doors in basketball arenas are bigger than the standard 6'8" doors. I'd assume the doors in Shaq's house were built to be over 7 feet as well so he doesn't have to duck when he walks through doors in his own house.
I'll use "scientific" measurements with this picture of Shaq and 6'3.75" Dwyane Wade
Click HereUsing Rob's suggestions on how to measure a celebrities height, Shaq comes out 9 inches taller assuming he has the head of an average 6 ft man. That puts Shaq at 7'0.75" making the 7'1" measurement very likely. Of course it's also very likely thta Shaq's head is slightly bigger than an average 6 ft man. If you copy and paste Shaq's head next to Wade's you can see O'Neal's head is about 2 inches bigger.
As a result Shaq comes out more like 7'1.5" or 7'1.75" in that picture. 7'0.75" at the worst.
lsu alum said on 27/Jul/08
nothingg from shaq in a day.he must be very busy because mcdonalds has a special on big macs.he's got to cook those burgers.
profes said on 26/Jul/08
The measurements I have taken to determine Mr.Oneals height,have more to do with the surroundings,door frames,ceilings etc.,than people around him.Mr.Oneal is 6'11.75".Of course that is rounded up as I do not know what time of day it is,or Mr.Oneals sleeping arrangements at that time.I deal with sciene,not emotion when I estimate someone's height.
Shaq said on 25/Jul/08
Another European player to watch is Ricky Rubio. His court vision, ball handling and passing ability is incredible. He's shockingly only 17 years old and to me he seems like a much better prospect than Derrick Rose.
Shaq said on 25/Jul/08
Dirk and Kaman look virtually the same height and Kaman measured 6'11.5" without shoes.
Click HereClick HereClick Here6'11.5" sounds right for Dirk
Salva11 said on 25/Jul/08
Nowitzki is a legit 7 footer or minimun 6'11,5" because he is taller than Chris Kaman!!! Stop to claim Dirk 6'10" please!!!
Shaq said on 24/Jul/08
For those who doubted the 2005 Shaq/Lebron all-star picture.
Click HereLebron is in front of Shaq and still atleast 6 inches shorter.
Shaq and 6'6" Penny Hardaway
Click HereShaq is more than a head bigger than 6'2.5" Bill Clinton
Click HereI also disagree with the statement that Nowitzki doesn't make his teammates better. During the 2004-2005 season Dirk had an average supporting cast but won 58 games in the difficult Western Conference. That is even more impressive when you consider that Michael Finley missed 18 games, Jerry Stackhouse missed 26 games, Erick Dampier missed 23 games and Keith Van Horn missed 53 games. I think Dirk was a top five player for a 3 year stretch and I wouldn't be surprised if he elevates his game back to that level next season.
Shaq said on 24/Jul/08
His posture is horrendous Viper. He also could very well be bending his knees.
Durant looks 6'9" like he was measured or 6'8.5" next to Greg Oden who was measured 6'11" and claims 6'11.5"
Click HereIt's also pretty funny that lsu alum doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
Viper said on 24/Jul/08
How does Kevin Durant only look 6-6 with 6-3 Vernon Davis?
Click Here
JoeFalk said on 24/Jul/08
gonzalo, danilovic was a leader and a clutch-shot man, he did his best here in italy with kinder bologna, and he did his best with serbia too. I don't care about his experience in the nba, he was a true natural champion, able to take lead in every moment of the game.
Salva11 said on 24/Jul/08
Danilovic is the most overrated i ever seen...Muresan is one of the best european center, when he was young and healty he dominated the Euroleague, and also Rik Smits was a great player and don't forget Super Dino Meneghin...
Shaq said on 23/Jul/08
Thanks Vegas. As usual lsu alum is wrong.
Gonzalo said on 23/Jul/08
Hi, JoeFalk. Danilovic is 1.000 steps behind Petrovic, Kukoc, Sabonis, Bodiroga and many others. Danilovic was one of the most overrated players I have ever seen.
Basketball is a team game, I agrre with that. But Nowitzki is not the kind of player that makes his team mates better, as some others do: Duncan, O
Shaq said on 23/Jul/08
JoeFalk, an old, overweight injury prone Sabonis averaged 16, 10 and 3 in 1998 at 34 years old so I'm sure prime Sabonis would have atleast been around 25 pts, 12 blks, 5 asts and 2 blks in the NBA.
JoeFalk said on 23/Jul/08
you can say petrovic or sabonis hade more talent individually, and probably you right... but basketball is team game, you can do 40 points per game, but if you team don't win you aren't good at all.... so, in my opinion kukoc was a factor in the second three-peat of the bulls, nowitzky get the mvp and he transformed the team of dallas from 10 w 70 l to 60 to 20 understand? Sabonis is overated, he's a good but not a monster like someone told here, petrovic was a champion, but i would remember that danilovic can be considered at the same level, and nobody mentioned here
Shaq said on 23/Jul/08
lsu alum, Garnett reported to training camp at 253 prior to the 2005-2006 season. If you think he's still 220 then you're crazy. He's skinny but the man is 7 feet tall and does have some muscle. Garnett was listed 253 by the NBA a few years ago. He's around that weight. Look at the difference between Garnett in his rookie season when he was in the 215-220 range and now. Garnett was already reported as over 240 pounds in 2002.
Gonzalo, I think Odom is in the perfect role for himself. While he is about 6'9"/6'10" and can rebound he's really not a PF. He likes to handle the ball, run the offense, makes plays for teammates ect. and now he'll probably be the Lakers 4th option. Odom does not perform well under pressure. The only 2 times he's done well in a second option role was in 2005-2006 when he played mostly SF or 2003-2004 when he was Miami's best player. He is probably more of a small forward who can run the offense as a "point forward". He'll also have a big advantage in the post against other small forwards.
As far as Ron Artest. I agree he's not worth the risk, he'll ruin the teams chemistry. The Lakers got the Finals last year without Bynum so why risk screwing up a great team? Artest might work out but there's a very good chance adding him wouldn't work out. On the other hand a starting lineup of Fisher-Kobe-Odom-Gasol-Bynum will be the favorites to win the West and probably the title.
Gonzalo said on 23/Jul/08
JoeFalk, there is life and basketball beyond the NBA. Petrovic and Sabonis won everything outside the NBA. Nowitzki hasn
Salva11 said on 23/Jul/08
Kukoc...Gallinari at the same age is much better, stronger and atletic...Petrovic had 2 season over 20 ppg in the real NBA not this very low level NBA...by the way Nowitzky is the better european player of all time...i think Muresan without injuries could be a star also in NBA in 1995-96 season he had 14.6 ppg 9.6 rpg and 2.4 bpg...in 1992-93 in Euroleague was the only player who can beat Arvydas Sabonis...he was renamed the anti-Sabonis...in 2 games against Real Madrid, Sabonis was dominated by Muresan!
JoeFalk said on 23/Jul/08
nowitzky did best even than petrovic or sabonis, he made a final and get mvp of the season, he is without doubt the best european of all time, although i would considerer toni kukoc as the
Gonzalo said on 22/Jul/08
Bynum is an excellent player and should be an All Star in a couple of years. He and Gasol should be great together. The question now is to see what happens with Odom. I love Odom although he is not as good as he should be. I guess the Lakers will move him to small forward and see how it works. If it doesn
lsu alum said on 22/Jul/08
garnett at 253 lbs.your insane shaq.your no better at estimating weight as you are with height.even your pea brain should know garnett is no way near 250lbs.
Shaq said on 21/Jul/08
Gonzalo it should be interesting to see Gasol and Bynum play together. A true twin towers lineup since both players are legit 7 footers and Bynum is a natural center while Gasol also plays a lot of center. I am a big fan of European big men in general because they are usually versatile. Most of them have an excellent shooting touch, great passing skills, solid fundamentals and strong footwork.
I'm not sure Gasol was ever going to lead a team deep into the playoffs as the best player but the trade to the Lakers makes it so he doesn't have to. He isn't asked to be the teams leading scorer or leading rebounder plus with Bynum he won't have to stay in the low post or play center all the time. He can just play to his strengths and do a bit of everything. Plus if he returns to PF he'll have a size advantage over every player. The only power forwards around his size are Kevin Garnett(6'11 3/4", 253) and Dirk Nowitzki(Probably 6'11 1/2" and 260).
You're right about Petrovic. I watched him when he was a Net and he was improving every season. It's a shame he was buried on the bench in Portland but he really started to shine in New Jersey. He had 2 straight 20 ppg seasons prior to his tragic death and he was one of the greatest shooters I've ever seen.
I'm also a big Dirk Nowitzki fan as far as European players.
willy79 said on 20/Jul/08
Shaq looked 6 inches shorter than the 7'6 Calvin Klien dude! So a shoed 7' is good for Shaq!
Shaq said on 19/Jul/08
lsu alum how is the profes a voice of reason? He hasn't provided anything to back up his claim.
Also where the hell did you hear Shaq refuses to be measured? That's ridiculous, the only documented measurement for O'Neal is 7'1" so unless you have any documented measurement then you should just stop posting.
As far as Olajuwon well I've always thought he was closer to 6'10" but if he's off by an inch with his height then that would put O'Neal back at 7'1". I doubt Hakeem would be off more than 2 inches with his estimate of Shaq's height. I've seen about 3-4 pictures of Shaq and Hakeem and O'Neal has 3 or more inches on Hakeem in all of them. Those pictures are also before Shaq started wearing those huge shoes he's worn since his toe problems in 2002.
willy79 said on 19/Jul/08
Shaq is more like 6'11-7'0 he is no 7'1.
lsu alum said on 19/Jul/08
glad to see the profes back on this site.a voice of reason.as afr as olajuwon's quote,well he said in ebony mag he was only 6'10",so why sould we beleive anything he says,just like oneal.i've also heard that oneal refuses to be measured now.
Gonzalo said on 18/Jul/08
Hi, Shaq. Yes, I love Gasol. He is the best spanish player ever. He also dominated basketball in Spain in his last season 2000-2001. And he is a star now in the NBA. I think he is one step behind the best power forwards in the NBA but he is still an All-Star. He sometimes doen
Shaq said on 18/Jul/08
Here is a quote from Hakeem Olajuwon's biography about Shaq.
From page 226
"The first thing I noticed about Shaquille was that he was a lot bigger than I was. I was 6'11" and weighed about 250 pounds, he was 7'2" and up around 300 -- and still growing!"
Shaq said on 18/Jul/08
Shaq has had a shaved head for years and he had very little hair when he was drafted so I doubt they'd be off by more than 1 cm at most. Ok, I'm 95% sure Shaq is atleast 7'1".
wolverinejoe80 said on 18/Jul/08
again, shaq
shaq never looks like he is 7ft 2. he is definitely somewhere between 214cm-216cm. i hate giving people an exact measurement because i'm not even 100% accurate on my height which is somewhere between 183.5cm to 184cm, so how can anyone say so and so is a certain height?
Guru said on 17/Jul/08
btw, i think bao is tallest man without gigantism. although i've heard that he rapidly grew from a normal height of around 6 feet to his present height 7-9 in just five years between 15-20. which is very strange.
Anonymous said on 17/Jul/08
I think Shaq weighs around 320lbs.
Shaq said on 17/Jul/08
Forgot to ask...Gonzalo are you a fan of Pau Gasol? He had an excellent season in 2006 when he eld Memphis to 49 wins while averaging over 20 points, 9 rebounds, nearly 5 assists and 2 blocks. He was also the key addition that made the Lakers the best team in the West. He is one of the best big men in the NBA IMO. He is one of the elite low post scorers, he has a good jumper, he's probably the best passing big man, a solid rebounder and a strong shot blocker.
Shaq said on 17/Jul/08
lsu alum, I can count on one hand how many people think Shaq is under 7 feet. JT posted a picture of Shaq standing up straight next to Hogan and Shaq towered over him.
Less people are questioning Shaq's height now then 1 1/2-2 years ago. Shaq is 7 foot 1. 6'11.5" for Shaq is a joke. I'll bet you I can find more pictures where Shaq looks around 7'1" than you can where he looks around 6'11.5". I've only seen maybe 2 pictures where Shaq was standing up straight and looked under 7 feet, otherwise he always looks 7'1"-7'2" with an ocassional picture where he looks 7'0" flat.
Hakeem Olajuwon who is 6'10"-6'11" trained against Shaq 1 on 1 in a gym in 1992 and estimated him at 7'2". His teammate John Salley estimated Shaq at 7'1" and Salley is around 6'11".
Shaq always has 4 inches on 6'9.25" Amare Stoudemire, 3-4 inches on 6'10" Tim Duncan, 4 inches on 6'9.5" Alonzo Mourning ect. He dwarfs 6'8"/6'9" guys. A 6'11.5" guy couldn't do that. Your arguments get more and more pathetic.
At first you were claiming the 6'11.5" height came from the pre-draft camp and that you were there.
Now you claim it came from Shaq's last season at LSU
Neither is accurate otherwise you'd be able to provide a link.
In reality you heard Shaq joking, saying he was 6'11.5", believed it, argued it here, got proven wrong and now you can't go back on what you've said.
I honestly doubt you even believe Shaq is 6'11.5" anymore, you just can't backtrack on what you've said.
The 6'11.5" height does NOT come from a measurement in the early 90's, it comes from Shaq's appearance on the Howard Stern show about 6-7 years ago.
Shaq was measured 7'1" at the 1992 pre-draft camp, he's claimed that height 3 documented times, he usually looks 7'1"-7'2" in pictures and on the court, he's always been listed at 7'1" or 7'2", people who meet him estimate him at 7'1" or 7'2". There is no real debate going on here.
Shaq is 7'1", I'm 100% sure of that and obviously Rob thinks I've provided enough proof because he's upgraded him a full inch.
So keep looking for 1 out of every 100 pictures where Shaq looks under that height but it's not convincing anyone.
I also find it hilarious that you said headshots don't prove anything when I post them but whenever a head shot shows Shaq looking under 7'1" all of sudden you think it's great evidence?
Shaq said on 17/Jul/08
the profes, why don't you share these "scientific measurements"?
Hahaha you're a joke! You've said this 3 times but haven't posted anything that led you to your conclusion.
Gonzalo, thanks for the response. If Sabonis played during his prime in the NBA then it'd be tough to imagine him not ending up a hall of famer.
An overweight, injury prone 33 year old Sabonis averaged 16.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 3.0 apg and 1.1 bpg on excellent shooting numbers in 1997-1998.
Sabonis was also a key member of those stacked 1999/2000 Blazer teams that made it to te Western Conference Finals. In the late 80's Sabonis also dominated David Robinson in an international game.
Salva11 said on 17/Jul/08
Shaq is 7,1" or 216 cm barefoot stop discussion! For basketball question i think Sabonis is better that every center i've seen except O'Neal and Olajuwon...
Gonzalo said on 17/Jul/08
Hi, SHaq.
I am 33 years old and I have been watching basketball since the early 80s. I have clear memories of everything after 1984 when Spain got the silver medal in LA. I watched Sabonis played even before 90s in Spain. I remember him when he played for the Soviet Union and Zalghiris Kaunas. I remember the European Championship in 1985 when USSR smashed Czechoslovaquia. I remember the World Championship in Spain in 1986 when the US beat USSR in the finals. Robinson versus Sabonis. It was an even match-up. Robinson dominated Sabonis in the first half and Sabonis dominated Robinson in the second.
Sabonis oculd do a little bit of everything. He was huge, he was an outstanding passer, a good shoter, good rebounder, intelligent. The best center to ever come out from Europe. But he wasn
the profes said on 17/Jul/08
As I have said on this site before,my scientific measurements place Mr.Oneals height at 6'11.75".No more,no less.
Alex2 said on 16/Jul/08
Isu Alum is such a fool, Shaq great picture, easily a head difference, and Shaq doesnt even look to eb standing straight. Shaq is easily 7'1" i think.
Salva11 said on 16/Jul/08
Sabonis was much better than Ewing and Robinson...
Shaq said on 16/Jul/08
lsu alum, I can count on one hand how many people think Shaq is under 7 feet. JT posted a picture of Shaq standing up straight next to Hogan and Shaq towered over him.
lsu alum less people are questioning Shaq's height no then 1 1/2-2 years ago. Shaq is 7 foot 1. 6'11.5" for Shaq is a joke. I'll bet you I can find more pictures where Shaq looks around 7'1" then you can where he looks around 6'11.5"? I've only seen maybe 2 pictures where Shaq was standing up straight and looked under 7 feet, otherwise he always looks 7'1"-7'2" with an ocassional picture where he looks 7'0"
Hakeem Olajuwon who is 6'10"-6'11" trained against Shaq 1 on 1 in a gym in 1992 and estimated him at 7'2".
Shaq always has 4 inchs on 6'9.25" Amare Stoudemire, 3-4 inches on 6'10" Tim Duncan, 4 inches on 6'9.5" Alonzo Mourning ect. He dwards 6'8"/6'9" guys. A 6'11.5" guy couldn't do that. Your arguments get more and more pathetic.
At first you were claiming the 6'11.5" height came from the pre-draft camp and that you were there.
Now you claim it came from Shaq's last season at LSU
Neither is accurate otherwise you'd be able to provide a link.
In reality you heard Shaq joking, saying he was 6'11.5", believed it, argued it here, looked like a jackass, got proven wrong and now you can't go back on what you've said.
I honestly doubt you even believe Shaq is 6'11.5" anymore, you just can't backtrack on what you've said.
The 6'11.5" height does NOT come from a measurement in the early 90's, it comes from Shaq's appearance on the Howard Stern show about 6-7 years ago.
Shaq was measured 7'1" at the 1992 pre-draft camp, he's claimed that height 3 documented times, he usually looks 7'1"-7'2" in pictures and on the court, he's always been listed at 7'1" or 7'2", people who meet him estimate him at 7'1" or 7'2". There is no real debate going on here.
Shaq is 7'1", I'm 100% sure of that and obviously Rob thinks I've provided enough proof because he's upgraded him a full inch.
So keep looking for 1 out of every 100 pictures where Shaq looks under that height but it's not convincing anyone.
I also find it hilarious that you said headshots don't prove anything when I post them but whenever a head shot shows Shaq looking under 7'1" all of sudden you think it's great evidence?
Shaq said on 16/Jul/08
allen4. Gasol is supposed to have measured 214'5 cm and I see 215 cm more often for him so if Shaq's 1 cm taller then that puts him around 7'1" just like his pre-draft measurement.
Gonzalo, here is a basketball related question. Did you watch Sabonis when he played in Spain in the early 90's? I was dissapointed that by the time I got to see him he was already 33 and had numerous injury problems. From the clips I've seen of him in his prime he seemed like he could have been in the Ewing/Robinson class among centers or even better.
Alex2 said on 15/Jul/08
6'3" Hulk Hogan? Man your just another
troll joker! 6'6" prime, 6'3-6'4" NOW, Idiot!
Shaq said on 15/Jul/08
lsu alum explain this picture.
Perfect angle, good posture and Shaq's not even wearing basketball shoes.
Click HereShaq is nearly a full head taller than 6'3.75" Dwyane Wade.
Explain that. Pre-draft measurements aren't estimates. Longtime scouting director Marty Blake even explained how they measure the players.
lsu alum said on 15/Jul/08
admit it shaq more,and more people are questioning oneals height.6'11.5" for him is right on photo evidence keeps mounting up.
allen4 said on 15/Jul/08
Salva11,shaq is not taller than gasol in "city shoes" i'see an after-match video interview on nba.com.......the two guys is the same size,probably +1cm for shaq = gasol/214cm barefoot and shaq/215cm max.....
shaq is a 215cm guy,in basketball court he give 218cm illusion with other center;but in normal shoes is appears 214/215cm......
sabonis is minimum 4cm on shaq,is exactly 218cm barefoot and 220cm in shoes in europe :
Click Hereand 221cm in shoes in nba:
Click Hereshaq and sabonis pictures:
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Salva11 said on 14/Jul/08
Dirk is sure 6,11.5" or 212 cm barefeet
Gonzalo said on 14/Jul/08
Sabonis has been listed between 2`18 and 2`22. Normally 2`20. I read an article in which a guy who knew him well said that Sabonis used to answer "2`20 out of bed and 2`19 at night" when asked how tall he was. Sabonis was 4
lsu alum said on 14/Jul/08
go to andre the giants page,and look at shaq,and 6'3"hulk hogan.shaq definitly needs to be downgraded.that pre draft height is not official,its just an estimate
LV said on 13/Jul/08
Jermaine has always been listed at 6'11" expect for a few years when him and Brad Miller were on the Pacers. For some reason, they were both listed at 7'0" during those fews years yet every other year they were both listed at 6'11". That picture with him and Garnett is not good for comparison purposes because Jermaine is standing behind him and is leaning a bit. Jermaine is barely shorter than Shaq here (
Click Here) so we know he can't be an inch shorter than KG.
Shaq said on 13/Jul/08
I've always thought Jermaine to be a legit 6'11" but Bosh was 6'10.25" when he was drafted and now claims to be 6'11". One interesting thing is around 2003 I remember an interview where Jermaine said he was measured 7 foot by his doctor but I'm not sure if he's truly a legit 7 footer.
Here he looks shorter than 6'11 3/4" Kevin Garnett by about an inch if not more.
Click HereFor Jermaine I'd say 6'10.5"-6'11" and we'll be able to see if Bosh was telling the truth about being 6'11" when he poses with Jermaine on media day.
LV said on 12/Jul/08
mma fan says on 11/Jul/08
Hey Shaq,
Jermaine O'Neal just traded to Raptors, who do you think is taller? jermaine or Chris Bosh
Click HereJermaine is anywhere from 1/2"-1" taller. You have to factor out Bosh's small afro because Jermaine always has very short hair.
Guru said on 12/Jul/08
but shaq's wingspan is longer than yao's and so is mutombo's.
Guru said on 12/Jul/08
I think Shaq is almost 7,3" in his sneakers...but i've seen pictures of him standing next to Yao, and even he seems to dwarfted (somewhat).
Shaq said on 12/Jul/08
Yeah Guru, Gasol is 7'0.5" and Shaq is 7'1".
Gasol and Dirk who is anywhere from 6'10"-6'11.5"
Click HereClick HereClick HereDirk looks about an inch taller when they both wear sneakers and the same height when Pau is slouching and wearing sandals. I'd say Dirk is 6'11.5".
Guru said on 11/Jul/08
shaq is taller than pau gasol that's for sure.
Shaq said on 11/Jul/08
lsu alum are you crazy? You talk about leaning and then you bring up the picture with Weathers where Shaq isn't standing even close to straight.
Shaq dwarfed 6'3.75" Wade when both had great posture. There's no way Shaq is under 7'1". 6'11.5" is a joke for Shaq.
Guru said on 11/Jul/08
Shaq is indeed 7,1" and there's no point debating if he's 7,1 or not.
mma fan said on 11/Jul/08
Hey Shaq,
Jermaine O'Neal just traded to Raptors, who do you think is taller? jermaine or Chris Bosh
Massimo said on 11/Jul/08
Do you have pictures of Muresan next to tall basketball players ?
I have never seen Muresan next to any other center but Bradley.
For instance, I would like to see him next to Shaq or Yao.
I believe Gheorghe when he says he is 2.28. In the movie "My Giant" Billy Christal says Gheorghe is 2.28 too (at least in the Italian traslation).
Thank you.
lsu alum said on 10/Jul/08
the picture with sabonis and wallace is leaning a lot in wallaces favor.take a look at 6'1"carl weathers and shaq on arnolds page,shaq doesnt even dwaft weathers.'6'11.5"no way any more.
Shaq said on 10/Jul/08
I remember Sabonis looking only an inch max taller than Shaq. When did he claim 220 cm? Zydrunas Ilgauskas is 7-2 so i doubt Sabonis is taller.
Gonzalo said on 10/Jul/08
Sabonis is taller than 7`2. He said he is 2`20 and sure looked it
Shaq said on 9/Jul/08
I think I remember something about Sabonis being 222 cm in the morning and 218 cm at night but I think in reality he's 218 cm in the morning without shoes and 222 cm with shoes. Sabonis doesn't look like a legit 7-3. He doesn't dwarf 6-9.75 Rasheed Wallace.
Click HereAlthough I have suspected for a while that Rasheed has grown since that 6-9.75 measurement.
Anonymous said on 9/Jul/08
Gheorghe Muresan isn't very heavy for his height weighting only 300lbs.
Shaq said on 9/Jul/08
Yeah mask well the pre-draft measurements seem to usually be reliable. Shaq looks exactly 7'1" so I'm sure his measurement is accurate.
Anonymous said on 8/Jul/08
You sure know alot about acromegalic basketball players? How about acromegalic football players? I heard of this Shagari Alleyne guy (he's 7,3") and he should be on the non-acromegalic giants list (although he's got unusally large feet even for his height--men's SIZE 23).
Anonymous said on 8/Jul/08
You sure know alot about acromegalic basketball players? How about acromegalic football players?
mask said on 8/Jul/08
Click HereI'm starting to think that Shaq is really 7'1" I used to think he was around 7'0" anyway but now after watching this pic next to Bob Lanier(6'11" at his peak and now maybe about 6'10") I see 3-4 inches between them and so maybe Shaq is a legit 7'1"!
Shaq said on 8/Jul/08
Sabonis is 7'2" max and Sampson is around 7'2" so I wouldn't group him in with Yao, Smits, Bol, Nevitt and Vranes.
Salva11 said on 8/Jul/08
Sure acromegalics giants basketball players for me:
Kenny George, Gheorghe Muresan, Sun Ming Ming, Vladimir Tkachenko, Roberto Duenas, Jaber Rouzbahani, Pavel Podkolzine, Garth Joseph, Paul Sturgess, Boban Marjanovic, Ry Myong-Hun (Michael Ri);
Suspected acromegalics players:
Mark Eaton, Peter John Ramos, Ha Seung-Jin, Priest Lauderdale;
Genetics normal growth giants players:
Yao Ming, Arvydas Sabonis, Rik Smits, Manute Bol, Chuck Nevitt, Ralph Sampson, Slavko Vranes;
Non acromegalic features players but normal size partens and borthers-sisters:
Shawn Bradley, Neil Fingleton, Aleksandar Radojevic;
Vegas said on 8/Jul/08
one guy i know for sure that doesn't have any form of acromegaly or other growth disorder is britain's tallest man 7'7.56 barefoot neil fingleton, i was watching a program on him last year and it was found that he was the tallest natural giant in the world and they were trying to find out if he was the tallest natural giant ever, he only wears a size 16 shoe too despite being so tall.
Aram x said on 7/Jul/08
this talk about acromegaly is interesting, so just which individuals over 7 feet are acromegalic, mildly acromegalic, or not acromegalic? Like could somebody say Yao Ming is somewhat acromegalic? Some guy here even says Shawn Bradley has acromegaly (although a very mild case). So do all 7 footers have acromegaly or some growth disorder?
Salva11 said on 7/Jul/08
Mark Eaton looks acromegalic...
Shaq said on 6/Jul/08
I agree that Walton was once over 7 feet and around 7'1" but now due to all of those injuries and age I believe he is now 6'11". Robert Parish was listed 7'0.5" so if that was accurate then that would make Bill about 7'1" in his playing days.
As far as Garnett next to Russell, well he seems to slouch in most of the pictures and in the recent championship pictures he had to tilt his head down and lean to his side a bit to be in the same picture as Bill who doesn't appear to have shrunk below 6'9.5".
Garnett standing straight next to Russell.
Click HereGarnett is 6'11.75" and I don't know if Walton is still that tall but he was easily taller than that in his playing days. Snapper Jones once said something about Walton being measured 7 foot barefoot in Portland but that may have been later in the day. If it wasn't then Robert Parish sure as hell isn't 7 feet.
It's ironic that of all people Walton called out Garnett about being listed 6'11" instead of 7 feet or 7'1".
If Walton is still over 7 feet though then that makes Shaq closer to 7'2" than 7'1" because he was about 2 inches taller than Walton in 1998.
JT said on 5/Jul/08
A few shots of Walton and Kareem
Click Here In the few pics out there, Kareem is still clearly taller than Shaq. If you check out the recent Sports Illustrated with Garnett and Bill Russell on the cover, Walton looks taller next to Russell than Garnett does.
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Shaq said on 4/Jul/08
I see 4 inches between Eaton and Walton. I don't think Walton is 7 feet anymore because in 1998 when he posed with Shaq for a a picture Shaq had easily 2 inches on him.
Click HereWalton at 7'0 1/2" or 7'1" in his prime and 6'11" now makes sense. It's possible Eaton is taller than 7-3 3/4 but that's my best guess for now and I've always suspected Ralph Sampson of being around 7'2".
Joe Falk said on 4/Jul/08
for mark eaton is a strong 7'4 not a flat 7'4 as for example rik smits
JT said on 4/Jul/08
Click HereEaton's not 7'6" but it would not surprise me if he was close to 7'5". Walton still looks around 7 feet next to his son and Kareem, and Eaton has a huge head. The height difference between Eaton and 7'2" Kareem was really noticeable (definitely more than 2 inches).
Shaq said on 3/Jul/08
I think if Mark Eaton says Sampson isn't 7'4" I have to agree with him. Eaton is about 7-4 himself(7-3 3/4) and he's seen Ralph up close to I'll trust his opinion. I don't think Ralph is over 7'2". 6'10"-6'11" Hakeem Olajuwon didn't look that much shorter. Hakeem himself claimed Ralph was 5 inches taller than him though.
Viper said on 3/Jul/08
I thought Sampson was a legit 7-4. He sure looked it.
Gonzalo said on 3/Jul/08
Sampson looked four inches taller than Olajuwon. That pic is not reliable. I remember Sampson being taller than Abdul Jabbar. If we could find a pic of both guys together we would have the best clue to tell Sampsnon
Shaq said on 3/Jul/08
I think Mutombo's wingspan is about 7'8". Shaq at 350 plus pounds in 2001 weighed nearly 100 pounds more than Mutombo too.
Salva11 said on 2/Jul/08
Shaq in 2001 NBA finals looks taller than Mutombo, and totally dominated him.
Anyone know Mutombo's wingspan, and Mutombo's
Standing Reach???
Shaq said on 2/Jul/08
I don't know, Eaton did look a good 5 inches taller than Walton this year(6'11" now, probably about 7'0.5" peak). Although it's pretty difficult to tell 1/4 of an inch on a 7-4ish man. I think 7-3 3/4 sounds accurate enough.
As for Kareem I found a link a while back saying he grew from 7'1 5/8" to an even 7'2" in 1970.
Another interesting thing on Shaq's height is he didn't change from a size 22 to his bigger healed size 23 shoes until his toe problems in 2002.
Here is a quote about Shaq's size from a December 29th, 2002 Denver Post article.
"Shaq already is listed at 7-foot-1 and 338 pounds, as if he needed heavyweight black platforms that make him 7-3 and 400 pounds."
I'd say prior to 2002 he was closer to 7'2" in shoes but around 2002 or 2003 he started looking about 7'3" in shoes.
LV, I keep hearing 6'10 3/4" for Hakeem but I don't know, he usually looks 6'10". He claims to be 6'11" nine times in his autobiography but a 1994 NY Times article said Hakeem claimed he was closer to 6'10". He can look 6'11" at times but that's probably more like his height in shoes. Anyone know where the 6'10 3/4" height for Hakeem comes from?
Sampson is somewhere around 7'1.5" to 7'2".
Salva11 said on 2/Jul/08
Very ridicolous Ralph Sampson in the only tall person that he claims more than is real height!!! One of my best friends, claims he is 193-195 cm tall (6,4"-6,5"), but he is minimun 197-199 with freakishly long arms i think he plays like a 6,9" 6,10" player, with a
Standing Reach of 270cm or more minumum (about 8,10.5" or 9 feet). I don't know why a lot of very tall guys claim less height than they really are, Charles Brakley or Kobe Bryant for example...
JT said on 2/Jul/08
Shaq says on 1/Jul/08
Eaton's exact height is 7-3 3/4 in his bare feet....
I remember Eaton being noticeably taller than Kareem, who I'm pretty sure was no less than 7'2" in his prime (he's still taller than Shaq and Andrew Bynum at around age 60). Maybe that Eaton figure was an end of the day measurement??
LV said on 1/Jul/08
Shaq says on 1/Jul/08
Eaton's exact height is 7-3 3/4 in his bare feet.
This is from the Dallas Morning News(may 24th, 1984)
Sampson is listed at 7-4, but refuses to be measured. Utah center Mark Eaton, who has been measured in his bare feet at 7-3 3/4, claims he is at least two inches taller than Sampson. "I asked the Houston trainer about that,' said Eaton. "He shrugged and said, "If he wants to be 7-4, then he's 7-4. After all, he is Ralph Sampson.' '
I never really thought much about Sampson's height, but he DOES NOT look 7'4" (
Click Here). Hakeem (Akeem back then) is only about 6'10" barefoot and Sampson isn't significantly taller.
Jason says on 1/Jul/08
Probably just a milder case. Even Shawn Bradley had acromegaly - he had surgery for it, and looks far from the stereotypical acromegalic giant. Well, apart from his height...
I'd didn't think Bradley had acromegaly either.
Shaq said on 1/Jul/08
This article says Muresan is 7'5 3/4"
Click HereA Los Angeles Times article from June 30th, 1993 said he was 7'6 1/2" without shoes.
Shaq said on 1/Jul/08
Eaton's exact height is 7-3 3/4 in his bare feet.
This is from the Dallas Morning News(may 24th, 1984)
Sampson is listed at 7-4, but refuses to be measured. Utah center Mark Eaton, who has been measured in his bare feet at 7-3 3/4, claims he is at least two inches taller than Sampson. "I asked the Houston trainer about that,' said Eaton. "He shrugged and said, "If he wants to be 7-4, then he's 7-4. After all, he is Ralph Sampson.' '
Jason said on 1/Jul/08
Probably just a milder case. Even Shawn Bradley had acromegaly - he had surgery for it, and looks far from the stereotypical acromegalic giant. Well, apart from his height...
JT said on 1/Jul/08
Salva11 says on 29/Jun/08
....not acromegalic like....Mark Eaton....
Eaton suffered from acromegaly? Never heard that. He was at least 7'4", if not a little taller though.
Viper said on 30/Jun/08
I saw video the other day of Shaq just TOWERING over a new Chevy Suburban. And those Suburbans are 6-5. Pretty funny to see.
Salva11 said on 30/Jun/08
kenny george is acromegalic
Aram x said on 30/Jun/08
i know a lot of huge basketball players suffer/suffered from acromelgy. take unca's 7,7-7,8" Kenny George for instance. that guy can literally touch the rim while standing completely flatfooted (unlike Slavko where the evidence as you mentioned was questionable)and there is 100% evidence for that (just watch him on youtube) and has an insane 8,5 1/2 wingspan. kenny george dunks literally without jumping at all! but he is suspected to have acromelgy because both his parent's while they are tall are nowhere near kenny's height. And also kenny george seems to have an 'unusually' deep voice (a key characteristic of acromelgic individuals). but then again, he could just be a case of an overactive pituitary gland (if that is classified as acromelgy).
Shaq said on 30/Jun/08
I personally never thought Sabonis looked over 7'2" without shoes although I believe he claims to be 221 cm in the morning and 218 cm at night.
LV said on 30/Jun/08
Salva11 says on 28/Jun/08
Aram X, looks 7,5" Slavko Vranes while e touch the rim completely flat footed:
Click Here
The rims in that picture is questionable and may be bent downward.
Salva11, I'm very impressed with your knowledge on giants and their relation to basketball. I'm a very big NBA fan and I had no idea Mark Eaton was an acromegalic giant. I knew Muresan was because I had tickets to a game his rookie year and he wasn't there because he was have his tumor operated on. Ming, Smits, and Sabonis all came from tall families.
Aram x said on 29/Jun/08
btw, what's interesting to note is that not all acromelgic giants look like orces (i.e. having unusually rugged facial features and uneven physical growth). for example, jaber rouzbahani's looks evenly proportioned and'normal' (just unusally tall of course) and he didn't have the neanderthal/orce-like look like Andre the Giant or Matt McGrogory (who both had obvious physical deformities).
Aram x said on 29/Jun/08
true being acromegalic giant doesn't make you a bad player, it just makes it harder to be a better player physically wise (like you more joint problems than non-acromeglaic giants). BTW, i thought Mark Eaton was not acrogemalic.
Salva11 said on 29/Jun/08
i don't think what is Vranes wingspan but not 8 feet even...i think...he "played" for Knicks and Blazers in NBA and now he "plays" for Partizan Beograd, a very poor player, Podkolzine for example is 100 times better than him, and Vranes is a normal growth giant, not acromegalic like Podkolzine, Muresan, Mark Eaton...ecc...
Often i heard that normal growth giants are a better player than acromegalic giants, but except Yao Ming, Rik Smits and Arvydas Sabonis , the best big giant (over 220) were acromegalics, Mark Eaton, Gheorghe Muresan, Vladimir Tkachenko (played in Europe, he was the physically strongest player ever before Shaq).
Manute Bol, Shawn Bradley, Chuck Nevitt (all normal growth giant) were a very poor player, no strong, no basket movement, totally no skills, except Bol who was a terrific shoot blocker.
Slavko Vranes (226-228), Neil Fingleton (228-232?), Jerry Sokoloski (225), Remon Van Der Hare (221) who are normal growth giant too are all freaks of nature and they can't play baskeball!
For example Jaber Rouzbahani (226), former Barcelona star Roberto Duenas (221 cm, 141 kg), Podkolzine (224) and Peter John Ramos (221) are a quite good player and thay are acromegalics giants.
Aram x said on 28/Jun/08
thanks Salva11, he can apparently touch the rim while standing flatfooted (making his
Standing Reach 10 feet even), and i wonder what his wingspan must be...? probably like around 8 feet i guess.
Shaq said on 28/Jun/08
lsu alum Barkley at 6'4" is just stupid. Chuck looks about 6'6" next to 6'3.75" Dwyane Wade, 6'5.5" Julius Erving, 6'7" Magic Johnson, 6'7" Dominique Wilkins ect. If Barkley is 6'4" then Wade isn't even 6'2", Erving isn't even 6'4" and Magic is 6'5" max
Did you see the pictures of Barkley with Kenny Smith when they were in their barefeet?
Click Here Click HereAs you can see Chuck has 4-5 inches on Smith and considering Smith was listed 6-3 he probably wasn't below 6-1.5
JT has been over this a million times. I haven't looked for the Hulk hogan picture, nor do I care much. If you want to post it here then go ahead but I've already proven Shaq is 7'1" which is why he is listed as such on this site.
Here's a question for you lsu alum, how do you explain the multiple pictures of Shaq with Wade, Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing ect. where he always looks atleast 7'1" if not closer to 7'2"?
Get some evidence to back up your ridiculous claims or get a life. Nobody thinks anything of what you say.
Salva11 said on 28/Jun/08
Isum Alum, Shaq is a true, solid, fantastically strong (i think the stronger giant may be born), atletich and terrific 7,1" explain me whay he's taller than 7,1.5" Mutombo on basketball court??? Is Mutombo only a 6,11" maybe 7 feet guy? Lol!!!
Salva11 said on 28/Jun/08
Aram X, looks 7,5" Slavko Vranes while e touch the rim completely flat footed:
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lsu alum said on 27/Jun/08
on another page shaq is now saying barlkey is 6'6.5",trying to prove that onesl is 7'1"barefoot.most agree that barkleys only 6'4"to 6'4.5".how does shaq explain the photos with hulk hogan,and oneal?
Aram X said on 27/Jun/08
What do you all think Roy Hibbert's measurements are?
I'd say about 7-0 or 7-1 w/o shoes, 270-275 pounds but his claimed 7-4 wingspan from 2007 sounds too low.
Remember wingspan measures shoulder breadth too, i have a friend who's actually a slightly shorter than me in head height and he's got a shorter wingspan too, but when he reached up, he measured slightly better than me
(that's because i've got broader shoulders than him and his head is very small--mine rather large).
Aram X said on 27/Jun/08
actually, just looked at a few picutres of muresan on google and of him standing under the rim i am pretty sure now he can touch the rim flatfooted with one hand but i seriously doubt he can dunk flatfooted. muresan should actually have a higher
Standing Reach than ming ming (who i don't think can touch the rim flatfooted despite being 7,8"-7,9" which means he's got very short arms for his height). ming ming's probably got a short wingspan than his own height just like yao.
Shaq said on 27/Jun/08
Aram x, I don't what his
Standing Reach was but if he is 7'1"-7'2" w/ shoes and had a 7'4" wingspan then I'd assume worst case his
Standing Reach is 9'4".
Aram x said on 27/Jun/08
Gheorghe Muresan got a 7,10" wingspan (yao's got a 7,5" wingspan). Assuming that Muresan's shoulders are the same width as yao's but not narrower than yao's(which is unlikely because yao's already got extremely narrow shoulders for his body) he would have 5 extra inches of arm length (but since humans obviously have 2 arms that would be 2.5 inches of extra length per arm). Muresan is also about two inches taller than yao and i guess it's safe to assume his shoulders are probably about 2-2.5 inches higher than Yao's. and since yao's got a 9,7-9,8" (or 115-116inch let's just avg it to 115.5 for convience's sake) flatfoot reach (w/ shoes on though) let's to the simple math
111.5 +2.5 (from arm length)+2.5 or 2.0 from shoulder height= 10 feet flatfoot reach (give or take 1/2 inch higher or lower than 10 ft). So i guess muresan could touch the rim flatfooted (but just barely at best). but to dunk one handed he would still have to go his toes that's for sure (no flatfooted dunking from muresan lol). kenny george i think he could actually dunk flatfooted (or very close to) because he's got at least 3 extra inches of arm length over muresan (since he's got a 101 1/2 inch wingspan compared to Muresan's 94 inch). i seen kenny dunking (what it seems like) standing flatfooted lol on youtube....
Aram x said on 27/Jun/08
7,4" wingspan is a decent wingspan for his height and 270lbs sounds pretty big...what's his
Standing Reach? i am guessing around 9,5"-9,6" right?
(w/ shoes on obviously). i don't think he can dunk without jumping...but that's not that important if he is fast and strong enough to play center that's all that matters. from the looks of pictures of the guy i think his wingspan looks to closer to 7,6" btw.
Aram x said on 27/Jun/08
btw, where's the proof that slavko vranes can touch the rim flatfooted, Salva11? just wondering not saying that you are lying i just want the proof.
Aram x said on 27/Jun/08
btw, you should keep in mine that sun ming ming is about an inch or an inch a half taller than muresan so his shoulders are almost certainly higher up than muresan's (SMM doen't appear to have a ridiculous long neck or tall head) so even if he's got shorter arms than muresan he still has shoulder height advantage over muresan. and muresan's arms, judging from pictures i've seen, aren't crazy long either...but i guess muresan's
Standing Reach could be 10 feet flat but not any higher. btw, you believe me that a 7,2"-7,3" guy (shagari alleyne) could have the same
Standing Reach as a 7,5"-7,6" (yao). technically, in basketball terms, yao would have no real 'height' advantage over Alleyne (except maybe his eye level being higher allowing him to see further and extra height obstruct the opponent's vision) and plus Alleyne's got considerably longer arms than yao (wingspan 8,1"). btw, every coach who seen this alleyne guy almost always mention about his 'freakishly long arms' or 'pterodactyl wingspan'.
Aram x said on 27/Jun/08
actually pavel podkolzine's
Standing Reach has been measured at 9,8" not 9,9" according to the 2003 NBA draft (which is by no means unimpressive). However i do think he's about an inch shorter than yao in head height but with 1 inch plus in
Standing Reach. keep in mine muresan's wingspan is 'only' 3 inches greater than his barefoot of 7,7" but it's also worth noting that people of the same height vary in shoulder height too which also affects
Standing Reach not just arm length. also wingspan measures shoulder breadth and Muresan does not appear to have very broad shoulders so his arms must be pretty long (although not freakishly so) and his head and neck don't seem very long either so i suppose he could touch the rim flatfooted. but yeah, the iranian guy, who's the same height as yao, to have a
Standing Reach that's at least 4 inches higher than yao; that's ridiculous even with a 8 foot wingspan! i even find it hard to believe even from seeing pictures of the grabbing the rim flatfooted that he is actually capable of doing that at only 7,5" with a 8 foot wingspan. but then again, rouzbahani does appear to have an almost comically small head for his height and not very neck either so his shoulders must be very high up so i guess it would be possible for him to touch the rim flatfooted at only 7,5". btw, i think that 7,5" is his height in shoes so he's really only 7,4" barefoot! whoa. that's a freakish
Standing Reach...
Shaq said on 27/Jun/08
What do you all think Roy Hibbert's measurements are?
I'd say about 7-0 or 7-1 w/o shoes, 270-275 pounds but his claimed 7-4 wingspan from 2007 sounds too low.
Salva11 said on 27/Jun/08
226 or 228 (7,5" or 7,6") cm serbian Slavko Vranes (very poor player and a normal growth giant) can touch the rim very easy completly flat footed, i think Muresan who's taller and maybe has got longer arms can grab the rim very well and dunk flat footed easily, Iranian big guy Jaber Rouzbahani who is 7,5" (226) with an 8 foot wingspan (244 cm) has a
Standing Reach of 10,1"...also the huge muscular Pavel Podkolzine has a 9,9" reach (the guy is 225 flat footed and 228-9 wingspan)
Salva11 said on 27/Jun/08
If Sun Ming Ming's
Standing Reach is 9,10" with his ridicolous arms (for hi height) it's impossible that Muresan's
Standing Reach is only 9,11", i think 10 feet minimum or 10,1"...considering Yao's
Standing Reach is 9,7" or 9,8 with ridicolous short arms (also for his height)...
Aram X said on 26/Jun/08
Kenny George admit himself his wingspan: 93 inches...in a video...
believe me, his wingspan is certainly longer than 93 inches. if his wingspan was only 93 inches even at his height he wouldn't be able dunk so easily without jumping...his wingspan is around 8,5-8,6".
Aram X said on 26/Jun/08
Salva 11 Quote why he said 93 inches wingspan?
well, it says on other sources his wingspan to be 101 or 101.5 inches and those sources seem more realistic considering how long kenny george's arms are. his wingspan is very very long (and not just a measely 93 inches)...combined with his immense size...which is why he can get avg of 5 blocks per game.
Anonymous said on 26/Jun/08
yeh, a 9,10"
Standing Reach at 7,8-7,9" does seem rather short...but that's still higher than pretty much anybody else (except for maybe kenny george). are you sure that
Standing Reach is measured with shoes on or with out (because
Standing Reach is now listed with shoes on)? because 9,10" just seems a little bit to short....besides were did you get the 9,10"
Standing Reach stat from?
Anonymous said on 26/Jun/08
Muresan DOES NOT HAVE MONKEY ARMS...his wingspan is only three inches longer than his height, but that Shagari Alleyne guy got a freaking 8,1" at only 7,2" (his
Standing Reach is par with Yao's despite being three inches shorter in head height). Manute Bol, at the same height as Muresan, i would also label him with the monkey arm label because he's got a crazy 8,6" wingspan for crying out loud! and btw, what's muresan's
Standing Reach? i am pretty sure it's like around 9,10-9,11" (yes he might be able to touch the rim standing flatfooted). yes, i think muresan might be able to dunk on his tippy toes although there has been no evidence of that...but that kenny george guy (also 7,7) he can certainly dunk without jumping (but his wingspan is around 8 and a 1/2 feet or 7 inches longer than Muresan's) and yeh, it's pretty much standard protocal for him to dunk without jumping in games.
Salva11 said on 26/Jun/08
Sun Ming Ming
Standing Reach is 9,10" with his very short arms for his height, i think Muresan can dunk barefeet coz his monkey arms are much longer thas Sun Ming Ming arms and if Gheorghe is shorter is for only 1 or 2 cm max!
Salva11 said on 26/Jun/08
Muresan is 7,7" 231cm or more barefeet, Shaq a really and solid 7,1" i think 7,3" with shoes coz he looks taller than claimed 7-2 Mutombo...
In front of Shaq Muresan is about 15 cm or more taller, Yao look taller than Shaq less than 10 cm...
Anonymous said on 25/Jun/08
Sun Ming Ming and Gheorghe Muresan once met before and Muresan taught Sun some tricks of the game...they both look approximately the same height IMO. but Sun is said to be somewhat taller. BTW, as for wingspan Kenny George OWNS EVERYBODY. He could set a new world record for the longest wingspan of any living human. Interesting, there's this player by the name of Shagari Alleyne. Even though he's only 7,2-7,3" he's got a wingspan LONGER THAN 7,7" MURESAN AT 8,1" (or 97 inches)!
Anonymous said on 25/Jun/08
i kinda doubt shaq wears size 22 shoes (that's just too ridiculous if you do the simple math). size 20 shoes/feet for shaq sounds just about right. shaq is 7,2" in his shoes. 7,1" barefeet.
Salva11 said on 25/Jun/08
Kenny George admit himself his wingspan: 93 inches...in a video...
Massimo said on 25/Jun/08
Salva11-
I have always said that Shaq is probably a full 7'1" or very close to it.
Regarding the Muresan-Bradley pictures I have said what my impression was,
I don't pretend to be right. Bradley was standing very straight (if that's correct English) in the pictures with Yao (in Yao's rookie season)too, but I think it's hard to back up the opinion that Yao looked taller than Bradley in those pictures. As for Sun Ming Ming he once said he was 7'8", but maybe he was just rounding down.
Anonymous said on 25/Jun/08
Aram X, Kenny George wingspan is 7,9" os 93 inches shorter than gigantic Muresan's wingspan at 7,11" or 95 inches...same height of Gheorghe at 7,7".
Actually if you look closely at Kenny's wingspan during games, 93 inches (or 7,9") is just too low. BTW, his wingspan has actually been measured at somewhere 8,5-8,6" and not a measely 7,9". Kenny's the same height as Muresan but his wingspan is at least a half a foot longer.
Joe Falk said on 25/Jun/08
bradley standing with his neck in vertical position, he's ridiculous! clearly muresan taller in that pic and monkey arms lol very long
Shaq said on 25/Jun/08
Yeah Viper and he also had about 8-9 inches on 6'3.75" Dwyane Wade and he wasn't even wearing his basketball shoes. Shaq can also dwarf 6'8"-6'9" guys.|
Here he looks 6 inches taller than 6-8 Grant Hill
Click HereIn this picture he looks about 7'3" with 6-8 Grant Hill
Click HereShaq has 5-6 inches on 6-8 Karl Malone
Click HereShaq has 5-6 inches on Amarae Stoudemire who entered the league at 6'8.5" and grew to 6'9.25"
Click Here6'11" guys don't dwarf 6'8"-6'9" guys like that. For proof look at 6'11" Greg Oden with 6'9" Kevin Durant.
LV said on 24/Jun/08
Massimo says on 23/Jun/08
Take a look please:
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In these two pictures Bradley looks taller than Muresan. I really don't understand why they used to list Gheorghe at 7'7' (with 77 written on his shirt). My impression is that, since Shawn is 7'6" max, Gheorghe is 7'5" 1/2 max, probably 7'5". I think Muresan and Yao are very close in height. I am pretty sure that Manute Bol is clearly taller than Gheorghe. It's strange that there's no picture of the 2 of them together.
Are you looking at the second picture? Muresan is clearly taller in that picture and is slouching in the first picture while Bradley is clearly standing erect to the point he has a stupid look on his face. Go to this link (
Click Here) and look at the pictures of Muresan next to a legit 7'8.75" Sun Ming Ming. He isn't even 2" shorter (look at the bricks in the background if you disagree since I know the pictures are tilted).
Viper said on 24/Jun/08
Shaq looks an easy 7-1 there with 6-4 DJ strawberry. Maybe taller.
Salva11 said on 24/Jun/08
Aram X, Kenny George wingspan is 7,9" os 93 inches shorter than gigantic Muresan's wingspan at 7,11" or 95 inches...same height of Gheorghe at 7,7".
For Massimo, Isum Alum etc... Shaquille O'Neal's height barefoot is 7,1" or 216 cm and 7,7" wingspan!
Aram X said on 24/Jun/08
I wonder who's longer Shaq or Vlade Divac? Probably Shaq. That's more revelant to basketball scouts. BTW, heard of the freak of nature (not in an offense way) Kenny George playing for the NCAA? This guy is 7,7" BAREFOOT (7,9" in his size 28 sneakes lol!), 360lbs, has a 8,6" wingspan, and apparently as might have expected, he canCliterally dunk WITHOUT JUMPING WHATSOEVER!!!
Shaq said on 24/Jun/08
Shaq likes to joke around a lot, Shaq at 6'11" is absurd. He's stated his height as 7'1" 3 times and the NBA measured him at that height without shoes when he was drafted in 1992. It's not even like Shaq has said he was 6'11" more than once, Barkley really is trying to convince everyone that he;s 6'4" but he's around 6'6".
Steve, Shaq is about 1.5" inches taller than Divac.
Joe Falk said on 24/Jun/08
muresan is clearly taller than bradley and has very long arms as you can see, because in back to back picture he's slouching a lot, while bradley has his neck in vertical position lol, you can't measure an height of man in that way... of course he is atleast 1 inch of less, 7'7 and 7'6 is correct, although i think their are listed in shoes
Viper said on 24/Jun/08
Look at how tall Shaq looks with 6-3 3/4 DJ Strawberry.
Click HereSome guy argued with me that Strawberry was 6-5-6-6 to his 6-3, and that his measurement was downgraded, lol.
Viper said on 24/Jun/08
Well, Barkley says hes 6-4 and thats probably wrong.
Antonio said on 24/Jun/08
I remember a couple of years ago, Shaq was on one of the late night talk shows. He admitted to 6'11". When he was told, "I thought you were 7'!" Shaq said, something like, "we just say I'm 7' because that's the magical height in b-ball."
Shaq said on 23/Jun/08
Massimo that picture with Shawn was from Yao's rookie season or second season.
The Rockets strength and conditioning coach Anthony Falsone says Yao grew to 7-5 3/4 without shoes and 7-7 1/4 with shoes sometime before September 2004 because that's when he measured Yao at that height.
Compare Yao to 7'1.25" Dikembe Mutombo.
Click Here Click Here Click HereGreat camera angle, great posture and Yao has easily 4.5" on Mutombo.
The 7'5.75" height for Yao makes sense.
Massimo said on 23/Jun/08
Shaq-
I think that even considering that Muresan is slouching etc., there's no way Muresan is taller than Bradley.
Click HereTo me Yao and Gheorghe look about the same height next to Shawn.
Salva11 said on 23/Jun/08
Massimo u r very similar to Sing and Isu Alum in your comment and sure boring. Bradley always admit that Muresan is taller than him and Yao shorter than him...no way Gheorghe is the tallest fella and taller for only 2mm than Manute Bol, Muresan is an acromegalic giant, while Bradley, Yao Ming and Manute Bol are normal growth giants.
I'm an NBA fan and Gheorghe looks taller than Bradley in the games i've been seen. Muresan has got a gigantic 7-11 wingspan and e is able to dunk flaat footed, sure he play taller than Bradley an Yao, Bradley has got a 7-5,5 wingspan and Yao 7-4,5.
Shaq said on 23/Jun/08
In the back to back picture Muresean is slouching while Bradley is standing as straight as possible.
I think 7-6 1/2 for Muresean, 7-5 1/2 for Bradley, 7-6 3/4 for Bol and 7-5 3/4 for Yao.
Massimo said on 23/Jun/08
Take a look please:
Click HereClick HereIn these two pictures Bradley looks taller than Muresan. I really don't understand why they used to list Gheorghe at 7'7' (with 77 written on his shirt). My impression is that, since Shawn is 7'6" max, Gheorghe is 7'5" 1/2 max, probably 7'5". I think Muresan and Yao are very close in height. I am pretty sure that Manute Bol is clearly taller than Gheorghe. It's strange that there's no picture of the 2 of them together.
Anonymous said on 22/Jun/08
a player's true height index matters more than how tall he measures at the top of the head because what can you do with the top of your head in basketball. nothing. a longer wingspan can indicate a better
Standing Reach but not necessary. william sheldon for example 6,7" barefoot had a ridiculous 7,4" wingspan but apparently his
Standing Reach is only 8,8 1/2" due to his very very tall head and/or long neck (his shoulders were probably at the same height as a player who might only be 6,5 or 6,6).
Anonymous said on 22/Jun/08
btw, yao plays shorter than his listed height of 7,5-7,6". he plays more a size 7,3"=7,4" because his
Standing Reach is 'only' 9,7" thanks to his unusually short wingspan for his height. manute bol, on the other hand, played taller than his listed height more like somebody who's nearly 8 feet because he doesn't have a very tall head or long neck and has a ridiculous 8 foot 6 wingspan.
Salva11 said on 20/Jun/08
Barefoot height for me:
Shaq 217
Gasol 215
Muresan 231
Bradley 228
Yao 227
Mutombo 217,5
Garnett 213
Bargnani 212
Nowitzky 212
Duncan 210
Bosh 210
Manute Bol 230
Kareem 218
Chamberlain 217
Sabonis 221
Shaq said on 20/Jun/08
Gasol didn't look much taller than 6'11.75" KG in the Finals though. Less than an inch.
Shaq said on 20/Jun/08
Gasol at 7'0.5" means he is around 7'2" in shoes which seems accurate. He does look taller than that on the court sometimes though. Shaq looks 7'1.5" or 7'1.75" next to 7'2" Zydrunas Ilgauskas too although that may be his footwear advantage although Z may wear big shoes.
Gonzalo said on 20/Jun/08
Gasol was listed 2`15 when he played in Spain. Last summer, while preparing for the Eurobasket the TV commentators said he was measured 2.14`4. Bosh looks around 2`10.
When I saw Gasol live in the Eurobasket final he looked huge, he towered over Kirilenko. He looked as tall as Savrasenko, listed 2`17.
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Shaq said on 19/Jun/08
Good find though Allen4, I'd always suspected that Bosh was 6'11" now, that confirms it.
Gasol was measured 214'5 cm which is 7'0.5". While he looks atleast 2 inches taller than Bosh that could be because he's wearing basketball shoes and Bosh isn't.
Gasol does sometimes appear to be a legit 7'1" but 7'0.5" is probably right and Bosh looks like a solid 6'11".
Rocky said on 19/Jun/08
It's clear that Shaq's shoes add more than a 1 inch boost, especially given his foot size and generally speaking, the width and depth of a shoe is proportional to the length. Not to mention that give his weight of over 300+ lbs, there can also be extra padding to absorb contact.
Gonzalo said on 19/Jun/08
Allen4, Gasol looks more than 3cms taller than Bosh in that pic
Shaq said on 17/Jun/08
Steve, Shaq was measured 7'1" without shoes while Divac was measured 6'11.5" at the 1988 Olympics. With Sportscenter covering the whole Lakers vs Kings conspiracy they keep showing a shot of Shaq and Vlade, Shaq looks 2 inches taller in the picture.
Thanks Allen4, I can buy 6'11" for Bosh because he looked taller than 6'10.25" Andrea Bargnani. Bosh looks more than 2 inches shorter than 7'0.5" Pau Gasol though.
James Z said on 16/Jun/08
I think Shaq is 7'0 or 7'0 1/2 at most. Here is a telling picture of him posing with Marlou Aquino (listed in Philippines as 6'9" but is actually 6'10" )for a jumpball.
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Steve said on 15/Jun/08
Who is taller Shaq or Vlade Divac?
Salva11 said on 13/Jun/08
Isu Alum u r so boring, stop to claim Shaq i 6-11,5 the wonderful true giant Shaq is 7-1 without shoes and he is 7-3 in shoes, and he weight around 330-365 pound. I think Shaq is the world strongest man!
allen4 said on 12/Jun/08
chris bosh say: i'm 6'11''..........
Click Herechris bosh and 214cm barefoot pau gasol:
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Duhon said on 8/Jun/08
Click HereKobe here looks at least 6'5" next to the 6'11"-10" bosh. i believe Bosh is a full 6'11" his body looked really undeveloped when he first entered the league at 19.
lsu alum said on 7/Jun/08
thought you would say something like that apparently the only pictures that are any good are the ones you use to prove oneal is taller than he really is.you right about one thing oneals elevator basketball shoes give him more than an inch in height.
Shaq said on 7/Jun/08
lsu alum he clearly has not researched Shaq's height much if he thinks Shaq's shoes only add 1 inch.
As far as the Hulk Hogan picture post it. I know if Shaq doesn't have 8-9 inches on him then he must be bending his knees, Hogan must be closer to the camera or be wearing bigger shoes.
JT has pictures on his photobucket that show Hogan slightly shorter than 6'3.75" Dwyane Wade and here is a great angle picture of Shaq and Wade. Shaq isn't wearing basketball shoes while Wade is.
Explain this picture lsu alum
Click HereNo poor posture, no bad angle and no footwear advantage for Shaq.
Joe Falk said on 7/Jun/08
only 2 inchs? i would atleast 3,5 inchs
mask said on 7/Jun/08
Hey guys look at this:
Click Herelook at the last pic low on the main screen the one with Abdul-Jabbar and Garnett next to each others I know that it's not a great angle but you can clearly see that there are at least 2" between them!
lsu alum said on 6/Jun/08
shaq you still havent explained the hogan picture,and i see another believes hes not 7'1' except in shoes
Shaq said on 6/Jun/08
John Starks was also listed 3 inches above his true height. He was listed 6'5" but admitted to being 6'2". As far as Beasley even he says he'll be more of an NBA small forward. That makes more sense to me because he never seemed like a true big man.
J.L. everyone knows Shaq's shoes add more than 1 inch.
Gonzalo said on 6/Jun/08
Amazing how a player can be upgraded three inches....Using inches and measuring players with shoes on doesn
J.L. said on 6/Jun/08
Shaq is 7'0 barefoot 7'1 in shoes. I have a lifelike poster of Shaq being that height in shoes.
Shaq said on 5/Jun/08
Yeah but I'm even more shocked Beasley was listed at 6-10 but is only 6-7 without shoes and 6-8 1/4 in shoes. I was surprised that Derrick Rose is only 6-1 1/2 too.
Viper said on 5/Jun/08
How about 6-9 listed James Mays measuring in at only 6-6.75!! He was measured at a flat 6-7 last year. So hes pretty much 6-7.
Shaq said on 5/Jun/08
Gonzalo. Beasley is 6-8 1/4 in shoes but 6-7 barefoot.
lsu alum I've posted pictures with Shaq and 6'3.75" both standing straight and side by side. Shaq didn't have basketball shoes but Wade did. Shaq also had Wade by atleast 9 inches.
Give it up you have nothing. I have pre-draft measurements, 3 different 7'1" claims and countless pictures.
Gonzalo said on 5/Jun/08
Beasley is 6`8 1/4
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lsu alum said on 5/Jun/08
shaq go to the paul wight(big show)page on this site,and explain to me the picture of 6'3.5"hulk hogan,and oneal.he looks no more than 5 inches taller than hogan,maybe less.im waiting for an explanation,maybe oneals not in his elevator basketball shoes that make him look 7'1".
Gonzalo said on 5/Jun/08
Beasley is 6`8 1/4. Case closed
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Viper said on 4/Jun/08
And Kevin Love was actually 6-7 3/4, not the 6-8 1/4 figure I saw on another page. Over inflated him too :)
Shaq said on 4/Jun/08
Yeah I'm shocked Love is only 6'7.75" and Beasley is only 6'7" flat too. Both are listed at 6'10"!
lsu alum said on 4/Jun/08
profes stated that he made calculations based on scientific evidence,and came up with 6'11.75"for oneal.i still think 6'11.5"is his real height,but at least profes is basing his calculations on science,and not what some one says,or the money making draft express,that has never measured anyone,yet prints so called pre draft heights.
Shaq said on 3/Jun/08
Viper, James Gist is 6-7 and Beasley is 6-7 while Love is 6-7.75.
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Viper said on 3/Jun/08
Actually, I was wrong. Draft express says Kevin Love was measured at 6-7 3/4. Thats surprising.
Shaq said on 3/Jun/08
Yeah and that measurement makes sense considering I read in a NY Times article back in February that he was 6-8 1/2 barefoot and 6-9 1/2 in shoes.
Viper said on 3/Jun/08
I was sort of right about Kevin Love. Measured in at 6-8 1/4. I pegged him at 6-8 1/2.
Viper said on 2/Jun/08
I pegged James Gist at 6-8 when I saw him. Am I right?
Shaq said on 31/May/08
This says Beasley measured 6'7.75" barefoot and 6'9" in shoes.
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Shaq said on 31/May/08
Ozsy says on 29/May/08
because the players haven't been measured yet.
They were measured but they won't be released yet.
Michael Beasley says he measured 6'8.5" at the camp
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Gonzalo said on 30/May/08
Nowitzki is taller than 2`08. I think he is at least 2`10, and very probably 2`12 as you say. He towered over Papaloukas, listed 2`00, and he is close to Gasol who is 2`14
Shaq said on 30/May/08
lsu alum says on 30/May/08
i am still debating this because shaq is6'11.5 barefoot.i have no problem with him being listed as 7'1"in shoes.but the truth is he is only 6'11.5".many people share my view.
Well if that's true then post a link to back it up.
lsu alum and many more people think Shaq is a legit 7'1". You realize that now after the pre-draft measurement there is no way Rob is going to downgrade Shaq and there is no way the majority will agree with you unless you back up your statement with a legit link. It's as simple as that.
I have no problem with you debating it or feeling strongly or confident about your statement, but if you want to be taken seriously then back up your claims with links.
lsu alum said on 30/May/08
i am still debating this because shaq is6'11.5 barefoot.i have no problem with him being listed as 7'1"in shoes.but the truth is he is only 6'11.5".many people share my view.
Shaq said on 30/May/08
Ozsy says on 28/May/08
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Whoever stated 6'10 for Dirk...
I think Dirk is closer to his European listing of 212 cm(6'11.5")
Shaq said on 29/May/08
lsu alum are you saying a 17 year old wouldn't know what 7 feet is? And how about Shaq's claims at 18, 20 and 34? Or his official draft measurement.
I don't even know why you're still arguing this.
Ozsy said on 29/May/08
because the players haven't been measured yet.
Viper said on 29/May/08
How come the 2008 measurements are not out yet?
lsu alum said on 28/May/08
thats really definitive proor the video of a 17 yr.old saying how tall he is.sure
LV said on 28/May/08
Duhon says on 27/May/08
Tim Duncan listed at 6'11.5" w/o shoes
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Viper says on 27/May/08
Draftexpress says that Tim Duncan was measured at 6-11 1/2 without shoes. Thats shocking.
Check out the asterick, its an unofficial, but reasonable measurement. He's probably 6'11.5" in shoes.
JT said on 28/May/08
Duhon says on 27/May/08
Tim Duncan listed at 6'11.5" w/o shoes
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That's the "unofficial measurement" of DraftExpress (look at the asterisk and footnote). Duncan looks a solid 6'10" and plays taller.
Ozsy said on 28/May/08
Click HereWhoever stated 6'10 for Dirk...
BigBen said on 28/May/08
Tim Duncan is not 6'11.5 barefoot. There's a sign(*)before his name.
As they say on draftexpress: players marked with an * have an unofficial measurement that look reasonable
Shaq said on 28/May/08
Read the asterisk Viper and Duhon. It says that's an unofficial measurement. So it was probably one reported by the team like the 7'0" barefoot measurement the Raptors reported for Bargnani.
In reality both are probably 6'10".
lsu alum that would make Shaq over 7 feet still and second of all where is the link for that interview?
How about O'Neal's 3 claims of 7'1" plus his 7'1" pre-draft measurement lsu alum?
How you use a 7'2" in shoes claim as proof for Shaq being 6'11.5" is beyond me. I also find it funny you didn't post a link to that interview.