How tall is Ray Fisher

Jordan87 said on 15/Feb/23
@ QM6'1.5"QM

No, There is not 6" between Ray and Rob. You IGNORED What Rob wrote about his footwear. So...Yeah, No..... :)

Gian 181cm said on 5/Jan/23
Fisher and Affleck are twin heights.
I hope it does a decent DCU reboot, and would love to see him as Cyborg.

189cm range.

berta said on 23/Dec/22
i think he look taller than ben affleck most of the time. they are about the same height but i would bet on this guy to be the taller one.

QM6'1.5"QM said on 29/Sep/22
This photo above is just perfect example of 6inches height difference!

Rob is 5'8- 5'8.25"!
Ray is 6'2- 6'2.25", he looked totally 2inches taller than Cavill.

John Cena, 6'0.25" or 0.5", looked at least the same height or even taller than Cavill.

Henry Cavill is 6'0 or 6'0.25" range barefoot closer to the evening!

Mathematica!!! :))

Jordan87 said on 19/Aug/22
Keep In Mind, He has a footwear Advantage with Rob and really doesn't look taller then 6'1.5. I would go by what he looks next to the measured and proven 5'8 man rather than what he looks like with other celebrities that we don't know their exact height.

Very Weak 6'2 he is , As In, I don't think he is over it , maybe in the AM.

the Picture with Rob really does go far. Since......He is standing next to a proven 5'8 man and still has an advantage with Footwear. 6'2.25" ( Which Rob Lists him at , is way to high-----If it wasn't for Rob's comment about his footwear I wouldn't be so skeptical.

5'7 and a bit said on 11/Jun/22
I really don't think he's taller than Affleck. Indeed he can at times but sometimes you can some where Affleck look taller.
Probably what makes him give the taller impression when standing next to Ben is he has a smaller head and lean build whilst Affleck is bigger and broader.
6'2 1/4 is a good listing though.

IceCold said on 13/Apr/22
He looks a legit 6'2. More, than most of listed on this site. He can look taller than Affleck in the pics

Canson said on 18/Mar/22
@Rvi35: he’s gotta be 6’2 flat at least being he’s right there with Affleck and can actually appear taller. Affleck is at least 6’2 next to Caron Butler who is a legit 6’5 range guy

rvi35 said on 17/Mar/22
187.5. weak 6'2

Slim 6'0.25 said on 7/Mar/22
More a weak 6’2” than strong if you ask me

Slim 6'0.25 said on 27/Feb/22
Hell edge Affleck

Canson said on 30/Jan/22
@Rampage: has to be at least 6’2 agreed. Esp if Affleck is at least 6’2”.

RickHavoc said on 13/Jan/22
At times he looks 189-190cm with the 187 cm listed Mahershala Ali in True Detective, about an inch between em. Maybe a footwear type of thing. Perhaps the tv series is worthy of being noted in the celeb's bios here. Is good stuff.

Wehrmacht180 said on 10/Dec/21
188 cm

Johno said on 23/Oct/21
He looks like he has a 4.75 to 5-inch eyeline. I suppose you could make a case for a 6-inch difference there i.e. 6'2. I mean he seems to have an edge on Affleck and appears 2-inches taller than Henry Cavil aswell.

A 6'2 measurement is a possibility however, I know he likes Nike Air Forces and the difference might not be quite 6-inches here even with a possible footwear advantage.

6'2 could be his highest measurement however, the difference between him and Rob is likely to be under 6-inches.

Fisher 6'1.75-6'2
Affleck 6'1.5
Cavil ~6'0

ALEXIZ/180cm said on 26/Apr/21
188 cm max

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 11/Apr/21
I wouldn't argue less than a flat 6ft2, looks over it more so than under

62B said on 31/Jan/21
Ray doesn't look 6'2" with Rob to me. Especially if Ray has the shoe advantage. I usually measure 6'2 1/4", maybe a tick over and I work with a guy who is about Robs height. My guess is Ray is probably 6'1 1/2" to maybe 6'1 3/4" barefoot based off Robs picture.

Mickie said on 25/Jan/21
He looks about 6'2" to me. Just over or just under is possible, but I think 6'2" is fair.

slim 6'1 said on 13/Jan/21
188cm I take back my strong 6’2” guess

Yang (5 footer 8, 173, Aries) said on 11/Sep/20
He is def strong 6ft 2 dude....

Slim 6'1" said on 5/Aug/20
Tall man definitely towering. 188.5-189

RJT said on 1/Aug/20
Rob, for strong 6'2 guys like him, Affleck and others, do you think they could be as high as 6'2.5 or even 6'2 5/8 around afternoon? And then just fall behind it at evening?

Since you met Richston whose at 6'2, Fisher at 6'2.25 and Welling at 6'2.5, is that difference really noticeable in person?

Btw in here your top head is around Fisher's end of nose, but a bit higher than that whereas with Richston, your top head barely reach his end of nose, so why you gave Richston 6'2 flat and not the other way around?

Canson said on 3/Apr/20
Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 1/Apr/20
I’ve seen photos where Ben Affleck does manage to edge Ray Fisher out, but there are more where images Ray Fisher has the edge on Ben. What makes you think that Ray Fisher is shorter, when there is visual evidence that indicates the opposite scenario?

@Celebheights 6’1.5: yea I wasn’t saying shorter per se but maybe more the same height range. But I’ve seen the same that Fisher appeared taller than him before in pics

Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 1/Apr/20
I’ve seen photos where Ben Affleck does manage to edge Ray Fisher out, but there are more where images Ray Fisher has the edge on Ben. What makes you think that Ray Fisher is shorter, when there is visual evidence that indicates the opposite scenario?

Canson said on 29/Mar/20
@Jordan87: to revisit this one, now I’m unsure if Fisher is taller than Affleck. I recently posted a video of Affleck with Caron Butler and it looked a solid 3” difference or slightly over but Butler May have had the thicker footwear by presumably 1/4”.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 28/Mar/20
Not under 188cm

Jordan87 said on 27/Feb/20
@ jackson,

He looks No Taller than 6'2" next to a measured 5'8" man. That's enough for me since again we don't know how tall other people are that are next to him as we do Rob. He Also had More Footwear than Rob.

Logic is really not your strong point in life I see. Maybe you are funny or Charismatic in life or something....just not very logical. Its ok, we forgive you.

Chris Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 28/Oct/19
Ray had a bit more footwear as Rob mention that would mean 1/8 or 1/4 not too sure. Above picture i can only see Ray look as high as '6'2 1/8 with 5'8 1/8 Rob. So i wouldn't go above 6'2 for his low. Is Ben Affleck really stand as tall as Ray barefoot without a hair? I doubt it. Ben low could be 6'1 3/4 than saying 6'2.

Jackson said on 11/Sep/19
@Jordan87

Hear we go again with you haha.... the height chart clearly doesn’t determine people’s height. Tons and tons and tons of guys on this site are listed at higher then where they reach on the “height chart” on this site. So yes you heard me correct. The height chart doesn’t magically determine somebodies height. It can be a decent help but is not 100% accurate. I see you get into heated arguments with lots of people on this site because you are so insanely arrogant. Lol.

Jordan87 said on 26/Aug/19
@ jackson,

The height chart and How tall he looks with Rob is actually much more solid than saying " He looks 6'2.5" In Photos".

What does that mean? You can pick out that he is an extra 1/2" taller with other celebs than what he looks like in Rob's Picture? Keep Dreaming !

Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 26/Jun/19
100% sure Fisher is between 1/8 to 1/4 inch taller than Ben Affleck yet they're both given same listing. Maybe if Ben is bald then Rob would believe he is a flat 6'2.

Jackson said on 5/Apr/19
The height chart doesn’t determine people’s height. When are people going to understand there’s guys listed at 6’2.5” on this site that don’t even hit 6’2” on this height chart on this site in some photos. So it’s clearly not 100% accurate. Rob met and guessed Ray at 6’2.5” to 6’2.25” range and he absolutely looks that height in photos.

Chase said on 24/Mar/19
Wow if I remember correctly he was originally listed at 6’3.5.

Pierre said on 9/Feb/19
Imo around 6"1.5' to my eyes by considering the heels and postures

Canson said on 26/Jan/19
@Rising and Jordan: I may say a full 6’2” for Fisher. But what Rising provided is much better than the initial listing that Rob had when he listed him 6’2.5. That he isn’t. 6’2.25 is something he’d measure at some point and possibly even the half but I think a low is around 6’2” at least based on the pic. I used to think 6’1.75 myself but I’ve seen in pics a lot of celebs look shorter than their listing next to Rob

Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Jan/19
@Jordan: I look at photos as more of a ballpark thing rather than exact, especially talking small fractions. The fact he is around 187 cm in the photo and doesn't appear to be standing worse than Rob does lend credence to just under 6'2", but I trust Rob's judgement so I lean towards 6'2"-6'2.25" myself. He's definitely not more than that and it might turn out he's less. As you know, I see Momoa more 6'3.75"-6'4" range when he stands straight, but I actually agree with you that he looks closer to 6'2.5" with Josh so I don't know what to make of that either. I think Rob has said Momoa's hat was at least 1/2", but not more than 3/4" so I deduct that figure. I see about 6'3.5" in the first photo with Rob and it's not clear if he's dropping much height, but it's really the second photo where I see him at least a solid 192 cm, maybe 192.5 and his stance definitely looks like he's losing some height. Either way, I doubt Ray stands close to Momoa's height without better posture and/or a camera advantage.

Jordan87 said on 22/Jan/19
@ Rising,

Though if you take his picture with ROb to the Bank, he would be about 6'1.75" ( including his higher Footwear), even I think he is a bit taller than that but not by much. I'd say Fisher prolly walks around out of bed in the morning at 6'2, but for most of the day is under that mark. That's the Way I see it. Mr. Fisher at times stands up to Momoa well, and others looks well over an inch shorter. Momoa himself struggles with 6'3.5" in his picture with Josh Recently so not sure where that leaves us. Momoa is also wearing a Hat in his pictures with Rob, but with Josh he is not over 6'2.5".

FIsher on the other hand has a very good picture with Rob, where he has slight footwear advantage as per Rob.

Rising - 174 cm said on 27/Dec/18
@Jordan: Ray seems like a guy who likes being around 6'2". In fairness, Rob is really 1/8" over 5'8" so that gets Ray back closer to what he is on the height chart since Rob said footwear was just a small fraction difference. From what I've seen of Ray, I think he's likely very close to 6'2" one way or the other. He could be 1/4" under as you say or 1/4" over as Rob lists him, but I think that has to be his range.

Bwk said on 26/Dec/18
This listing looks spot on.

Jordan87 said on 26/Dec/18
@ Rising,

Fisher usually stands with good posture by design while Momoa is a infamous sloucher.

I have My Doubts about Momoa being much taller than 6'3. Fisher is 6'1.75" with Rob and has a slight Shoe Advantage which leads my to believe Fisher himself may not make even 6'2".

Rising - 174 cm said on 24/Dec/18
I don't see a big mystery with Ray and Momoa since Momoa is clearly slouching in those pics. I haven't seen much to make me think Ray wears lifts, though Rob did see him tip-toe when he posed with a 6'4" guy so he may like being taller. As for Ben and Ray, they look very close.

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Justice League photocall (Ben in sneakers, Ray in combat-type boots): Click Here Click Here
Cinemacon 2017 (Ben in dress shoes, Ray in sneakers): Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here Click Here

PAN BERRY said on 23/Dec/18
I think those markings of inches aren’t exactly accurate, I would say he’s 188 cm or 6’2” I don’t think he can be under that

Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 13/Nov/18
@Jackson

Sometimes, people in certain pics can appear to be much taller than they really are.

Canson said on 13/Nov/18
@Jackson: Momoa doesn’t look a full 6’4 next to Rob and Jenny but maybe Fisher does have an advantage to get up that close to him. Ben with Lebron however looks close to half foot shorter.

Jackson said on 11/Nov/18
The reason I feel Ben Affleck is legit 6’2” range is I just don’t trust Rays footwear when he’s with cast mates. Look at him standing just as tall as 6’4” Jason Momoa... how’s that possible? I feel like Ben is taller than ray. Barely. But ray seems to magically appear taller sometimes.

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Pierre said on 8/Nov/18
By considering his advantage of shoes,the postures and the scale i guess him around 6"1.5'

viper said on 25/Oct/18
Interesting that Ray is just shy of the 6-2 line. He could be more 6-1.75

viper said on 25/Oct/18
Saw the first Superman recently and I could buy Reeve being more than his stated weight. Very big looking dude

Canson said on 24/Oct/18
6’2 max worst case 6’1.75

184guy2 said on 24/Oct/18
Ray Fisher and Max Osinski ( listed 6'2.5 ) with the same guy ( No , it's not Rob )

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QM6'1QM said on 21/Oct/18
Honestly, I absolutely do not see this guy measuring something more than 188 cm/ 6'2" (especially with the superiority of shoes).

Canson said on 9/Jun/18
@Jordan87: that looks good for those guys. Fisher has chance at a solid 6’2 but no more and no less than what you said. As for Momoa, he could be a similar situation to Joe Mangianello. When Rob met Joe he pegged him 6’5 and reduced it well after he met him to 195. However, he looks more 6’4.5. Momoa he also thought 6’4” in person but looks 192 with him

Jordan87 said on 7/Jun/18
@ Canson,

Yeah exactly Right now It Got:

Momoa: 6'3.5"
Fisher: 6'1.75"
Affleck: 6'1.5"
Cavill: 5'11.75- 6' ( Thicker Shoes and Posture sometimes affects this)

A Side not, if we are on a DC Comic Book Run, A few pictures came out with Christopher Reeve ( My Personal Favorite Superman -BY FAR!!!!!) Struggling with 6'3" with Actor Mark McClure whom Rob has a picture with.

I know Reeve was 221 pounds as Superman, yet 223 Pounds Ray Fisher looks a lot thicker so Reeve likely had some height on a Guy Like Fisher to weigh around the same.

AS Far As Phelps, He would be looking down a slight bit on Fisher I believe as well.

Canson said on 5/Jun/18
@Jordan: he looks physically taller than Affleck to me. It could be a case where he does measure a bang on 6’2” at a low but 6’1.75 looks likely. 6’1.5 looks good for Affleck. He calls himself 6’3 yet Michael Phelps is 6’2 and change in person and can guarantee he’s taller than him

Jordan87 said on 23/May/18
@ Canson,

Yeah, Affleck at 6'1.5" even 6'1.75 I could see being the 6'2.25 but I agree He would need to be measured maybe an hour or so out of bed like you said.

Ray Fisher seems to have longer arms in proportion to his height then Affleck who at times again seems to have stubby arms for his height.

Zampo said on 23/May/18
@Jordan87, Affleck is a tricky one. I've tried to look at him with other people as well. I do think he would possibly measure 6'2 flat in the afternoon if told to stand his tallest.

@Canson, I think you are in right ball park. sometime in the morning a 6'2.25 measurement is probably likely.

Canson said on 22/May/18
@Jordan: I do agree with most of what you said tho! He looks shorter than Fisher but also not as lanky. Fisher has proportions of a 6’2” guy whereas he doesn’t. And fisher may go below by a hair himself

Canson said on 22/May/18
@Jordan: actually 6’2.25 is likely especially if he’s 6’1.5 at a low. But that would almost be right out of bed

Canson said on 21/May/18
@Zampo: I think the 6’2.25 would be a morning height for him. Maybe not right out of bed but an hour or so out of bed

Jordan87 said on 21/May/18
@ Canson,

Yeah I myself thought that Affleck could be in the 6'1.5" Range a couple times, but the Fisher pics kinda make me think the SJH Fella had a point. Ben has a rather Long Head and stubby arms for his height i'd say, but I would think the max Affleck can be is 6'2, and If I Was A betting Man I would say he was under 6'2 for most of the day.

@ Zampo,

Honestly I think Affleck at 6'2.25 in the morning is even out of the equation. Based on how he looks with Ray sometimes, I don't even think he makes it over 6'2 at any point in the day.

Zampo said on 19/May/18
@Canson, Agreed. One thing I keep forgetting is that these listings are based on a afternoon height measurement which does make the 6'2.25 more likely I guess.

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 18/May/18
@Canson

You're right, a 6'1.5" guy can easily look 6'2"+ if he has good posture and thicker hair and footwear.

Canson said on 17/May/18
@Jordan: I wouldn’t say that Affleck at 6’1.5 is BS at all especially next to Fisher. One poster, S.J.H, claimed to have met Affleck and put him actually at 186-187 himself. Of course people can underestimate or overestimate height. In addition, people may not be completely honest when they say that they meet or have met a celeb. However, S.J.H seems like a pretty honest guy and was actually pretty accurate with his assessments here. 6’1.5ish could equate to how you assessed him below “6’2 on a good day” especially if the 6’1.5 is a low for him or perhaps if he were maybe 6’1 5/8 as that can be construed as 6’1.5 to some as it won’t look any different. Not to mention that 6’1.5 at a low and 6’2 at a low won’t appear much different being that someone who measures the former at a low will likely claim 6’2”, especially a celebrity. And being that many celebs claim their shoes and flat out lie about their heights, a guy messuring 6’1.5 and claiming 6’2” will have an overwhelmingly convincing argument that they are, in fact, a legit 6’2” as opposed to someone who is 6’0 or 6’1 claiming 6’2.

Canson said on 17/May/18
@Zampo: that’s the most I would give him. That’s a possibility as is 6’1.75 but I don’t think he’s less than that. He can look anywhere from 187-188 with Rob taking into account that Rob is at a disadvantage in terms of footwear. I think the listing itself is a bit high to say the least and I think the initial listing of 6’2.5 was far too high for him because based on the picture and the “potential” footwear advantage, he looks at most a flat 6’2” at night which I won’t rule out but would rule out even the 6’2.25

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 15/May/18
Jordan's correct, if Ray had footwear advantge, he looks 6'1.75". Buf if he didn't, he looks 6'2".

Canson said on 15/May/18
@Jordan: I think he falls below the mark by a hair as well. However, he wouldn’t maintain a full 6’2” for most of the day at that rate. This is of course, unless he lost an inch in a day. Someone his size, perhaps 6’2.5 out of bed, would likely be 6’2” after anywhere from 2-4 hours after waking so 6’1.75 I think would be a good shout for him “most of the day”. I agree that the height chart is off. I say it because the charts with other celebs reflect Rob slightly over 5’8” whereas this one shows he is under. Nonetheless, I can see where he likely falls to about 187.3cm at a low

Canson said on 15/May/18
@Christian: agreed

Jordan87 said on 14/May/18
Andrea,

I believe the chart is slightly off as in like 1/8" of an inch something like that. Not sure exactly how much footwear Advantage Ray had but let's assume it was around the same at the minimum, I'd say the 6'1.75" ( WHich is what he looks in the picture) becomes 6'2 but no more than that).

In the evening hrs Im sure Ray can be below 6'2".

My Real Point is that Ray Fisher's height certainly puts into Question how tall some people think Affleck and Cavill are. Momoa is a different story b/c he has a couple pictures here with Rob and Jenny and with Jenny ( and without his hat) he is not much over 6'3.25 in it.

Zampo said on 12/May/18
Looking again, I'm quite confident he would measure 6'2 flat in the evening. Where the lines on on the height chart pass him, look exactly 2 inches taller than me (182.5-183 cm at a low, 5'11 7/8), so that would put him at a similar 6'1 7/8 range (He would have a larger eye-level than myself however this offsets the "fraction more footwear" I think). He would measure 6'2.25 at 11 am in the morning.

Andrea said on 9/May/18
I don't think the height chart is off, Jordan. The top of Rob's head is right around the 5'8 mark, just like every other height chart. Of course you've got to bear in mind that Rob's actual height is a bit more than just 5'8 flat (5'8 1/8 if you want to go with his lowest), so you should always add at least a 1/8 inch to every mark of Rob's height charts), BUT, in this case, Rob said that Ray's footwear advantage is such that it basically makes him (Rob) 5'8 flat rather than a fraction over, so this height chart is very easy to "decipher" as you don't have to add or sutract fraction to/from those marks. Considering all of this, Ray does look somewhere around 187 next to Rob...

Jordan87 said on 7/May/18
@ Christian,

6'2" Flat I where I would put him for most of the day so yeah.

Understand that he appears a tall guy no matter what Audience he is in.

Yes, the height chart as brought up by others here is slightly off ( Where Rob appears a tad bit shorter than he normally does) but Keep in Mind that factor can be offset by Ray's Footwear Advantage.

All In All, I doubt he is as low as he looks in the picture (6'1.75") ( With Shoe Advantage), but I can tell you he his not 6'2.25". That is over with.

I have Him at a very very realistic 6'2. Others, again have a problem with this b/c it Does bring some attention to the fact that Mr. Affleck is not the 6'3.5" he says he is and the 6'2-1/2" that most posters says he is.

Affleck is 6'2 on a good day since Fisher is more often that not, taller.

A Side note Fisher and Affleck along with this picture courtesy of Rob surely brings some attention to people saying in Person Affleck is in the 6'1.5 Range. That is not a total line of BS. Affleck is shorter than a Proven 6'2 Man in a good deal of pictures so IDK what you guys want to do with Affleck.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/May/18
@Dream

Jordan's right. I really can't see him being as tall as 6'2.25" in the pic.

Zampo said on 4/May/18
Don't just look at the height chart itself but the height of his features etc. The average guess seems very reasonable to me. Not quite 6'2.25 in my opinion but a 6'2 flattish guy. Anywhere between 187.6-188.3 cm if I had to take a punt, basically 6'2. Again, all based on the photo only.

Dream(5'9.5") said on 4/May/18
I really doubt he falls under 6’2.”

Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds would need a downgrade (since ray edged out another 6’2’er who was taller than both of them).

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/May/18
@Dream

Jordan's right. I really can't see him being as tall as 6'2.25" in the pic.

Jordan87 said on 2/May/18
Yeah his low is in the pic at 6'1.75 ( With some shoe advantage). We talked about adjusting the chart but He is 6'2, not over.

6'2.25" is out.

Dream(5'9.5") said on 1/May/18
He does have a low eye-level.

Even accounting for that, he still is a quarter inch over the 6’2 mark.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 30/Apr/18
@Canson

Rob says that he's at his low or close to it when he goes to conventions. So I doubt Rob's more than 5'8.25" when he meets celebs. So if Rob's at his low, then chances are that Ray's at his low as well.

Canson said on 29/Apr/18
@Christian and Jordan87:

I agree with both of you. A worst case is 6’1.75 imho and a best case is a solid 6’2”. He could be either of those at a low or right in between the two marks. The other question is was Rob at his normal low when he met him and was Fisher (of course we won’t know this one) at a normal low at that time? However, based on the pics, I would say he’s a max of 188cm

Jordan87 said on 27/Apr/18
@ Celebheights 6'1.5,

K he is 6'1.75 with some slight footwear advantage. Rob Mentioned it. That alone combined with his pic makes me think he doesnt get to over 6'2". 6'2 yeah, 6'2.25"? I do not think so.

THe problem people are having is Fisher is a can Crusher. In other words, he makes Affleck look under 6'2 since he is taller than him. This also makes Cavil under everybody's 6'1 hopes b/c Henry is a bit more than 2" shorter than Fisher.

Momoa is a different story b/c Jenny now has a Pic with him showing him at 6'3 rather than 6'4".

This Is how it goes:

Momoa- 6'3.25 to 6'3.5 ( Look at his picture with Jenny and stop with the 6'4 BS)
Fisher- 6'2" ( I am not going to explain this again)
Affleck- 6'1.5-6'1.75" ( Shorter than Fisher 90 percent of the pics)
Cavill- 5'11.75- 6' ( More than 2" under Fisher, open your eyes)
Gadot- IDK without her heels prolly a tad over 5'9

And this is all thanks to Rob's Pic with Fisher FYI.

Your Welcome

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 25/Apr/18
And a celebrity who is 6’2 1/4” will usually shift from appearing to be 6’2” flat (occasionally 187 CM) to even 6’3” sometimes (though it’s less common) even if they don’t dip down to 187 CM even. It’s exactly why we have these pages to debate heights, even after Rob posts a photo by the celebrity.

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 25/Apr/18
More importantly the eye level difference looks to be a bit more than 6 1/4” inches. Rob’s eye level is roughly 4.5” inches (I think).

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 25/Apr/18
From how I look at it, it is kind of difficult to base Ray’s height by just one photo (even if we all know Rob’s height very well) as no celebrity will appear to be the same height in every single photo as there are a number of variables that can determine the perception of the real height difference in shots taken even to the one who meets the celebrities (time of day for example, or sometimes even just the level of hydration can make someone shorter due to the discs in the back being dry or temporarily damaged, or the posture can be hard to tell sometimes, with it being difficult to tell how much they are dropping due to the fact that everybody drops different amounts in difference stances since human proportions are actually what determine it). As someone who has met a ton of celebrities myself, I’ve witnessed this happening with celebrities often appearing to sometimes be at least 1/2” of an inch taller or shorter than they actually were in the photos together.

I can agree that he does appear to be 6’2” at best in the photo up above (especially considering the ‘slight footwear advantage), Jordan, just based off of what I see up above at first glance. However, even though Ray’s eye level is a little bit smaller than Rob’s, it’s still at least two inch higher than the top of Rob’s head (and Rob is 5’8 1/8” at his low, and not 5’8”). Say that the footwear advantage is 1/8” of an inch (though only Rob would be able to know what it was since we, the users, can’t see the ground in the photo up above) and that Ray’s eye level looks to be 4 1/4” (though the ruler isn’t completely clear about that), 6’2 1/4” isn’t unbelievable as 5’8 1/8” + 4 1/4” - 1/8”=6’2 1/4”.

As for Ben, Ray does have a small fraction on him, but I doubt that the difference between the two is significant (especially since Ray often wears bigger shoes than Ben does). Ben also didn’t look to be any shorter than a Morgan Freeman who easily was a bit over 6’2” in his peak (considering how he was taller than a 6’1 1/4”-6’1 1/2” Jim Carrey in the Bruce Almighty, and has a little bit of height on a 6’1 1/2” Will Smith and more than an inch on Kevin Costner), and he was taller than Hugh Jackman and not much different from a 6’2 1/2” John Kransinski.

Jordan87 said on 17/Apr/18
@ Dream,

"Don't get me wrong, i can understand why he looks shorter, but when I really look into it, He's a good 6'2.25" guy. "

I can see him pushing to 6'2, 6'2.25" is very hard to believe. Rob would have mentioned if Ray was leaning or loosing posture. The fact is by this picture this man cannot be over 6'2" tall.

Dream(5'9.5 said on 15/Apr/18
@Jordan87 I'm going by where Rob's eyelevel lands. A 'fraction' more footwear doesn't always mean 1/4th of an inch. Some times it can mean like 1/8ths or even barely smaller. He would have mentioned 1/4th of an inch if it was that big.

Sure, he does have a footwear advantage, but it's a fraction, not a quarter of an inch higher.

Don't get me wrong, i can understand why he looks shorter, but when I really look into it, He's a good 6'2.25" guy.


Look at Justin Hartley's page. He actually looks shorter than Ray, but he had less footwear, plus he's leaning. However, some people think of him shorter than he actually is.

Jordan87 said on 12/Apr/18
@ Dream ( 5'9.5")

"He beats out Ben Affleck, but not by much. "

Correct. This does make Ben slightly under 6'2. You still are going with the whole 6'2.25" thing with Ray Fisher b/c Rob still has him at that instead of using your own judgment and realises Ray is 6'2 with a Shoe advantage with Rob.

Rob is good, but I doubt he would be able to tell in person if Fisher was over 6'2 by a 1/4". Fisher as per the picture gets to 6'2 ( again with a Shoe Advantage).

Affleck is shorter than Fisher SLighty, so you are at least making progress and have accepted that.

Dream(5'9.5 said on 2/Apr/18
He beats out Ben Affleck, but not by much.

Affleck isn't under 6'2". If he was, then Ryan Reynolds would be 6'1.75".

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QM6'1QM said on 23/Mar/18
Fisher - 6'2".
Cavill - 6'0" (.25" absolutely max).
Momoa - 6'3.75".
Affleck - 6'2" (maybe, .25").
Miller - about 5'11".
Gadot - 5'9.25".

Thanks.

Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 15/Mar/18
Rob, while I do believe that he is over 6'2", I will admit that Ray Fisher does appear to be 6'2" in that photo up above. Do you know why that is?

QM6'1QM said on 25/Feb/18
Easy 6'2". More ? No!

Bruce Wayne said on 3/Feb/18
Big Rob

What type of shoes was he wearing that day?

Canson said on 20/Jan/18
@Jordan87: yea there’s a good shot at a full 6’2” for Ray but I’d be hard pressed to see any taller

Jordan87 said on 19/Jan/18
Luminus,

You understand that 6'2-1/4" is actually close to impossible? 6'2 Yes, but 6'2.25 I'd say is out only b/c He looks 6'1-3/4 with a Footwear Advantage. Canson is correct about the height chart, this would give Ray another 1/4" or so, but take back away the shoe Advantage and bingo, he is lucky to be 6'2 he is probably 6'1 and 7/8, something crazy like that, but not as high as 6'2.25.

Luminus said on 16/Jan/18
6'2-6'2.25, your list is okay.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 16/Jan/18
@Canson

I agree, the 5'8" line's actually 5'8 1/8", so that means the 6'2" line's actually 6'2 1/8". And considering Ray has a bit more footwear than Rob, I put him at 187.5cm if I guess him to a tee. Best case for him is 188cm.

Canson said on 15/Jan/18
@Razor: this height chart is off. Rob comes a little under 5’8” as opppsed to 5’8 1/8, fisher comes a tad under too. But if we compare footwear etc it brings him to at worst 6’1.75 but maybe even a full 6’2” is his best case

Razor said on 13/Jan/18
So many emotional responses based on comparisons with other actors. The picture clearly shows he is not 6ft2.

heightchecker34 said on 8/Jan/18
Ray Fisher looks 188 cm most of the time in his pictures, whether he is loosely slouching or standing up straight, so I would be highly surprised if he dips below that. 6'1.5 or 6'3 is clearly out, so he is somewhere in the 6'2 range. I would have him at 6'2 flat, and as for Affleck, after more review, I am afraid may have dropped to 6'1.75 despite my earlier post on him. I think absolute MAX height for Ray is 6'2.25.

Jann said on 6/Jan/18
186 to 187 cm

Jordan87 said on 3/Jan/18
Rob,

Do you have any idea on how Affleck can be shorter than Fisher in the attached picture here when they have the same posture and Affleck is in Dress shoes? Ray is clearler taller. This really makes me think Affleck cannot even hit 6'2 anymore b/c Fisher barely hits it with you ( As I have mentioned in the past he is actually struggling to hit it with you even with his supposed footwear advantage over you.)

Click Here

Anonymous said on 31/Dec/17
Rob how old are you?

Alex 6'3 said on 28/Dec/17
I agree, if Fisher is 188 cm, Affleck must be 186-187 cm.

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 27/Dec/17
@Junior @Jordan87

Goes to show you that Affleck's not as tall as he's listed here. No way he can be 6'2.25" if he's shorter than Ray Fisher who looks max 6'2" here. Also people who met Affleck swear he's about 6'1.5"

Jordan87 said on 26/Dec/17
Junior,

I agree. Ben Is most of the times looking Shorter than Fisher which is very odd since Fisher is a weak 6'2 in my mind. Before I saw them Together I would have thought Affleck was 6'2 Solid, maybe 6'2-1/2. Now I strongly feel Affleck dips under 6'2 during the day for sure.

Affleck is still the physically largest batman. ( Adam West was tall and weighed 196 pound supposedly as Batman Whereas Affleck was 216 during Dawn of Justice).

Bale was 190-210 as Per Christopher Nolan, and certainly shorter than Affleck.

Michael Keaton ( My Personal Favorite and yes I am bias b/c his Batman is from my Childhood) is lucky to get over 175 pounds when he was Batman, and maybe a weak 5'10.

Jack said on 26/Dec/17
Agree with ribs listing

Junior said on 25/Dec/17
Funny stuff is that Ben Affleck is significally shorter than Fisher but rob think Affleck could measure over 6'2 and Fisher seem to look like a guy only struggle to hit 6'2 barefoot but 6'3 easily with dress shoes.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5 said on 17/Dec/17
Rob, would you say 6’2” is the worst you see this guy?

ArnieDan said on 15/Dec/17
@John
Do you understand the flaw in comparing unverified pictures with an actual height chart picture? Rob is ensuring all the variables are neutral (level ground, same positioning, similar posture, footwear details, snapper's position etc). This is as good as it gets.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5") said on 13/Dec/17
I have to side with John.

Jordan87 said on 7/Dec/17
John,

Nope show me where I said that. Just you John, just you.

@ Canson,

Correct 6'2 I have him at at least for a portion of the day, and yes it's accurate. Me and John ( AKA Sped) are arguing about 1/4" to 1/2" which is fine really ( I see this happens alot on this site, so it's fine with me). I call Ray a Weak 6'2 which means at the end of the day I think he is likely under 6'2, but maybe Mid day I can see 6'2.

The 6'2-1/2" Needs to stop b/c there are too many variables in Rob's photo going against that.

Canson said on 6/Dec/17
@John: the height chart actually has him under 6’2” honestly. Rob has said a footwear advantage of .3” and he even looks 187.5 in the chart above. Only thing is that Rob looks exactly 5’8” or a hair under in this one too. Rob looks 1/4” taller almost in other height charts with celebs no less than 1/8” less. I would say anything less than 187.5 can safely be ruled out but anything above 188 or maybe a mm over 6’2” can be ruled out too. At the end of the day 6’2” is accurate for him

John said on 6/Dec/17
Jordan87

Once again just because I disagree with you on a person's height you believe i'm mentally slow. You start your argument by saying no you don't think everyone that disagrees with you is mentally slow. THEN you proceed to call me mentally slow... Hahahaha. Yikes if anyone is mentally slow it's looking like you buddy..

Jordan87 said on 6/Dec/17
John,

Focusing on details you bring up like Kevin Nash's photo is a different story. Nash is tilting his head in that picture which is Why Rob Lists him higher than his looks. Fisher is not tilting his head. SO AGain, Focus. You bring something up like the Nash Pic then fail to see the difference in your own suggestions. Yes, John, Focus. And No, Not everyone that disagrees with me is mentally slow but in your case I do actually wonder about you.

Ok, I call Fisher a Weak 6'2, but I agree im sure he is 6'2 at some point in the day. Why do I not have him at over 6'2? Ok yes, he looks shorter than that near Rob ( No Way is there more than 6" There) with a Shoe Advantage. Yes With a Shoe Advantage. So this leads me to believe over 6'2 is not possible, which is why I usually have him at 6'2 or I call him a " weak 6'2 ".

An Yes, the height chart does not validate a person's height 100 %, Nothing does unless you measure that person. HOWEVER.

1. Fisher looks Under 6'2 with ROb
2. Fisher has a Shoe Advantage
3. I still have him at 6'2
4. See 1 and 2, yes to me I believe that is better evidence than any picture of him with other Celebs.

Steven Amell said on 5/Dec/17
In a place around 6'2"-6'2.25" is good for him, 6'1.75" is a joke for this guy.

John said on 5/Dec/17
Jordan87

so do you claim everyone that disagrees with you is mentally slow? my goodness lol. yes Ray does look over 6'2" in every photo ive seen of him next to other people like Jason Momoa. I don't ignore every photo i've seen and just decide fishers under 6'2" because of a height chart... the height chart doesn't always just validate a persons height 100%.

Jordan87 said on 5/Dec/17
John,

He looks over 6'2 in every photo you have seen? How do you know? Height chart is the best evidence yet he isn't over 6'2, especially with a footwear Advantage.

Kevin nash is tilting his head down in his photo with Rob, Ray is not. Focus.

Jordan87 said on 5/Dec/17
John,

I am a DC fan. Try to let that Sink in for a Second. Or no, not a second for you it may take longer.

John said on 4/Dec/17
He looks over 6'2" any every photo ive seen. You cant use this height chart on here for 100% accuracy. Kevin Nash is under 6'8" on his height chart but Rob has him listed at 6'9.5"

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/Dec/17
@Canson

Agreed, if Ray isn't 188cm then he's not under 187.5cm worst case either. IMO he's rougly flat 6'2"

Canson said on 1/Dec/17
Yea he’s not over 6’2 but if under it’s maybe 6’1.75 at his lowest and no less

Anonymous said on 1/Dec/17
rob, I do not know NO, but I'm not even a strong 6.2, it's even so 1.73 hits well at the beginning of my nose, while the level of my eyes are 5.9-5-75

Canson said on 30/Nov/17
@John: rob also met Joe Mangianello and listed here 6’5” even after he met him and lowered to 6’4.75 well after. Another poster who is 6’5.5 evening met him and said he’s an inch shorter. Just shows rob can be off by 1/2” as he is human

Canson said on 30/Nov/17
@John: momoa is not looking that tall in the height chart rob has. Looks a weak 6’4 tho 192cm. He is wearing a hat as well. Rob being 1/2” off tho isn’t bad considering he’s simply guaging someone’s height 7-8” taller than him

John said on 30/Nov/17
jordan87 you dedicate your entire life to trying to downgrade everyone in DC lol. I don't see you anywhere but on the DC guys pages LOL.

Jordan87 said on 30/Nov/17
John,

So Momoa's Picture with Rob is accurate but Fisher's isn't is what you are saying? lol Yeah, Momoa doesn't look ful 6'4 in the pic anyway so I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Fisher is 6'2 on a good day as Per Rob's Wonderful picture above. The one where he mentions Fisher has a Slight footwear Advantage.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5") said on 30/Nov/17
He’s not as tall as 6’3”, but not under 6’2”.

Johno said on 30/Nov/17
I would actually put money on Fisher going into the 6'1-range at some point of the day, be it minimal or majority.

Anonymous said on 30/Nov/17
Rob, do YOU ​​have 1.73 accurate? if so then fisher can be 6.2, but a weak 6.2

John said on 29/Nov/17
Ray next to legit 6'4" Jason Momoa who Rob has met

Click Here

Ray is absolutely not under 6'2.25"

Jordan87 said on 28/Nov/17
Rengar27,

Nope, 6'2. You forgot to read Rob's Description stating ray has less footwear. It's ok, we all go at different paces, you especially seeing as you provide and height without any description.

Anonymous said on 27/Nov/17
Rob, do you really believe that ray is 6.2? even in the graph your head does not even reach 6.2 with shoes still, I see it as 6.1.75, if in this photo you were at your lowest, how much is your lowest?

Alex 6'3 said on 27/Nov/17
A 188 cm guy have an eyelevel (nasal root depression, aka sellion) of 176 cm, I think Fisher is around that mark or a little less. He can't be under a good 187 cm anyway..

Rengar27 said on 27/Nov/17
Definitely 6'2.25

Anonymous said on 27/Nov/17
I have 1.87-188, the level of my eyes are 1,76,5, -1,77o my chin starts at 1.64,5-165, this is my non-jump height some, barefoot, ray is at maximum a strong 6.1

Jordan87 said on 27/Nov/17
Dreampuffe,

Rob also Mentions Ray has more Footwear so take that into account and make sure you " Give a crap about that" lol. Give a Big Crap about it. As In a mega level Crap, Police batton sized bowel movement, ok?

The Chart would show 6'1.5" taking Ray's FOotwear out of the equation, and I still have him at 6'2 so do not think I am Lowballing him. Taking into account the pretty accurate chart, The fact that even with a footwear advantage there is not over 6" Between Ray and Rob, my 6'2 estimate is very accurate and I am Happy with it.

Jordan87 said on 27/Nov/17
@Dreampuffe,

" Most ". Ok, you think Fisher looks more than 6" on Rob? I do not my Friend. He gets 6'2 like I have said. Not more than that.

Andrea said on 27/Nov/17
According to your logic, which is "every picture or video is worth to be posted", I could easily make a case for 6'5, by posting pictures or videos where Boris looks that tall and by ignoring the fact that he has some big camera advantage, like you're doing with Idris there. And trust me, if I did that, there would be more occasions where he looks 6'5 than 6'3. I don't, though, because, unlike you, I am well aware of things like camera angles, camera positions and camera advantage...

Canson said on 27/Nov/17
@Christian: yea In that first pic below that you posted he’s not closer to the camera Boris actually is. But that’s minimum 4 pics now because there’s 2 with Elba 1 with Foxx and 1 with Kobe. He doesn’t look over 6’3” with Kobe sure that could be 1.5 but still closer to 6’3 than 4.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5") said on 27/Nov/17
Most of the guidelines are used to measure someone’s head length.

Again, looking back at Brett Dalton’s page, it’s was stated there. Unfortunately, no one seems to be giving a crap about it.

Anonymous said on 26/Nov/17
Rob, a question where would be the eye level of a 6.2?

Johno said on 26/Nov/17
A flat picture, overall a decent perspective with no real angle distortions.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 26/Nov/17
@Andrea

Just cut the crap, Andrea. Canson recently showed you this pic with Boris and Idris. Click Here And just in case you say that pic's "inaccurate", there are other pics with Idris where he doesn't look 6'4" either Click Here Click Here

Moke said on 25/Nov/17
Do you have to understand why he's supposed to be OVER 6'2'' when he clearly is a little under or just at that mark?

Dreampuffe(5'9.5") said on 25/Nov/17
Oh and for god’s sake.

I could say the same thing about Brandon Routh being downgraded to 6’2” flat (since his thick hair is above 6’2”).

Click Here

- Quote from Brett Dalton’s page

Andrea said on 24/Nov/17
Well, Christian, the BIG difference between Boris and Morrissey is that in David's case there are many pictures where he doesn't look over 6'2 (which is the reason why I thought that he was lot closer to 6'2 than 6'3), while in Boris' case he constantly looks somewhere in that 6'4 range and, apart from that single picture with Jamie, there isn't even a single occasion where he looks as short as 6'3...

Johno said on 24/Nov/17
Fisher

Morning ~ 6'2.25 or 6'2

Evening ~ 6'1.3-6'1.5

6'1.75 would be a fair listing for him.

Canson said on 24/Nov/17
@jackson: i don’t think momoa is legit 6’4. Weak 6’4. Ray with Rob looks max 6’2. Could be 6’1.75

Jackson said on 23/Nov/17
Dreampuffe

exactly! You sir are correct. This chart is not actual height of them. And Ray is not anymore than an inch shorter than legit 6’4 momoa. Anything under 6’2.25 for ray is wrong. Some people on here just freak out when somebody isn’t the height they’re listed on the height chart. Rob met ray and said he’s not under 6’2 and there’s PLENTY of photos to prove that.

Loan said on 23/Nov/17
1,89 for him, 6'2.25

Dreampuffe(5'9.5 said on 23/Nov/17
Hell, there is David tennant (who's hair reaches only 6' in the guidelines.) Yet Rob lists him at 6'0.75" (which I do believe him since he met him in person.

The guidelines are more like the 'length' of a celebrity's head and not the actual height of them.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5 said on 23/Nov/17
Also, you have guys like Brett Dalton who rob met and confirmed 6'2" even if Dalton is under it.

Dreampuffe(5'9.5 said on 23/Nov/17
Rob, are you considering anything under 6'2" for this guy?

Jackson said on 22/Nov/17
Rays definitely not smaller than 6’2.25. Just because he doesn’t seem it in one picture doesn’t mean he’s not. he’s always no more than an inch shorter than legit 6’4 momoa.

Don Spa?a said on 22/Nov/17
Well, We see..
Ray Fisher: weak 1.89, (6'2.25")

Ben Affleck: weak 1.89, (6'2.25")

Gal Gadot: solid 1.77, (5'9.5")

Jason Mamoa: full 1.92 now, (6'3.75")

Erza Miller: solid 1.80, (5'11")

Henry Cavill: solid 1.84, (6'0.5")

I think the listing is perfect, Rob.

Jordan87 said on 22/Nov/17
Victor Surrat,

Some of what you wrought I do not really understand and I am Guessing English is not your Primary Language which is fine. What I am trying to get at is the height chart cannot be that inaccurate. Rob mentioned Ray Has a slight shoe advantage and I feel you may have forgotten that as well.

1. Ray Appears 6'1-3/4" tops in the pic.
2. Ray Has A Footwear Advantage as well.

This leads me to believe 6'2.25" is pretty much off the table. Compare it all you want to other 6'2 people, this man does not pass over the 6'2 mark.

Alex 6'3 said on 22/Nov/17
Between Fisher and Momoa there's about 2-3 cm, so, Fisher 187-188 cm, Momoa 190-191..

Celebheights 6'1.5" said on 21/Nov/17
Rob has Jason Mamoa at 6'4" flat, and he doesn't appear as much as 2" inches taller than Ray Fisher in comparison with Rob (even considering the footwear advantage). The top of Rob's head came up to Jason'a top lip, while the top of his head comes up exactly 1/4" of an inch above the bottom of his nose. That's about a 4 CM difference.

Victor Surrat said on 21/Nov/17
Jordan87

Honestly, I really don't care what do you feel about me only of see my comment, in fact it gives me a bit of pity If you feel superior just for believing that you know more about stature and reject it with a lot of hard. I consider the back, the lips and eye level, the neck, I compare it with others 6'2", the description of Robb and not only the hegith chart like you I guess (so I just see that detail as a part of the whole,
and something more secondary than primary because it can be wrong).

Jordan87 said on 21/Nov/17
Victor Surrat,

" 6'2.25" Looks good for this guy"

Nope, Look at the picture above. If you see 6'2.25 I feel bad for you.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 21/Nov/17
@Andrea

Now I'm feeling the same way how you felt about Morrisey. Just like Rob used to list him as 6'3", Rob lists Boris at 6'4". It seems like no one respected your 6'2" estimate for Morrissey and accused you of downgrading, just like how you disrespect my 6'3" estimation for Boris and accuse me of being clueless about height differences. You shouldn't behave like this, especially after you went through the similar things I'm going through right now. It's one thing to disagree with someone's estimations, but at least have some respect for it and stop belittling it.

Alex 6'3 said on 21/Nov/17
A good 187 cm, weak 188 cm

Victor Surrat said on 21/Nov/17
6'2.25" looks good for this guy.

Canson said on 20/Nov/17
@Andrea: do you realize everything you keep saying about me is describing you? The excuses, the need to have someone back me like you run to Rob? The turinjng things around and ignoring posts. Do you not realize that you not only made an excuse for Jamie Foxx’s Picture but also now made one for the one with Idris? Ok eel maybe i need to dummy this down for you but your picture with Boris and Haysbert that you keep describing what is the difference in those factors that you mention? You mentioned ground level we can’t see or footwear? I don’t see you mentioning any of that instead you use it. As far as closer to the camera and being outside well take a look at your pics you initially posted because we can find several that have at least one of the issues you keep bringing up. How many more excuses will you make? Ok you believe he’s 6’4” i do not and obviously as mentioned before others here don’t either if the avg guess is 6’3.36. Ok so we don’t see it your way. Let’s agree to disagree because now it seems as if you are just turning everything you do around on me and insulting just because i exposed you. It wouldn’t have come to that had you not begun to force your opinions and beliefs on people as facts and not behaved the way you did which is why i told you about yourself

Andrea said on 20/Nov/17
Christian, if I really needed Rob's confirmation and validation like you say, I wouldn't question any of his listings. I do it, though, and I've always done it, because fortunately I have a brain and I can think with my head. And I've even been accused of downgrading celebrities more than once because of that. To make one of the many examples... Rob used to have David Morrissey at a quite optimistic 6'3. I always said that he looked a lot more 6'2 than 6'3, even though the same Rob and many posters thought he looked near enough 6'3. Rob apparently met him and now has him at 6'2. And this is just one example, I could go on and on... As for asking Rob about the height differences between Boris and Kobe, Magic and Rick Fox, for the last time, the only reason why I did that is because you said that I was the only one who sees those differences and you even made fun of it. Apparently this is not the case... Sure, Rob is not perfect, just like I am not of course, but he objectively has more knowledge about height and height differences than you and Canson, whether you like it or not. So if it's your guess against Rob's, I'm gonna go with the latter one, also because I know for sure that Rob is 100% unbiased...

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 19/Nov/17
@Andrea

Canson doesn't need me even remotely as much as you need Rob for confirmation and validation. Canson isn't the one going around asking me questions like the height differences between Boris and Kobe/Magic/Rick Fox etc. He's also not the one who thinks that I'm his "master" and that whatever I say or think must be 100% true.

Israel/1.87 said on 19/Nov/17
how can he be 6.2? his head even with a centimeter of advantage did not reach that mark, it is 1.86.5 maximum 1.87.5 in the morning

Canson said on 19/Nov/17
@Andrea: By the way, i don’t see you mentioning anything about ground level or camera in the picture with Boris and Haysbert. Of course you can’t see it there either and you know just as well as i do. Yet You just use it as pure evidence that Boris “has to be the height that he’s listed” or that you are arguing that he is. I’ve never seen someone as dumb as you or make the amount of excuses you make 😂

Canson said on 19/Nov/17
@Andrea: no i am not dumb, Andrea. I answered your post very directly when you said that you only see one “single” pic of Boris looking under 6’3. I mean this constitutes a picture of him looking under 6’3” since it’s widely known that Idris is under 6’3” as well. By the way quit saying i lie. You lie as well when evidence is pointed right at you and you lie about the fact that you don’t make excuses etc.

So once again, you proved my point that you are full of excuses. Had Idris been shorter than Boris in that pic none of this would’ve been included in your post regardless of who was closer to the camera. And I can look at a fair number of the pics you posted where Boris is closer to the camera or is favored and you don’t mention a thing about that. Btw even in the pic that was posted of Kobe and Boris, although it wasn’t yours, Boris is closer to the camera, which influences the difference of course, but you again fail to mention that as it contradicts your opinion that Boris is 6’4”. So the only thing I’ve seen over and over again is that you make things a fact when you feel the need but when someone contradicts you or your views you tell them that they are wrong or clueless about height differences etc.

Canson said on 19/Nov/17
@Andrea: you’re right i don’t care because you specifically said you don’t see any pics with Boris looking under 6’4. I found you one and you turn it into a “volume/quantity” argument again as usual, and making an excuse now which is typical you just like you did with the Jamie Foxx picture where he looked 6’2 and you brought the other pic of the two of them where he looked 6’3 with Foxx leaning. You don’t mention any of the latter when he looks 6’4” only making excuses when he doesn’t

Andrea said on 18/Nov/17
Are you really that dumb, Canson? It is useless mainly because Idris is standing a lot closer to the camera than Boris, besides the fact that the ground may well be uneven. In fact, if you look closely at the photo, it looks like it was taken outside. If I were as biased (or stupid) as you, I could post a picture like this Click Here and say: "Look, Boris is noticeably taller than Michael Jordan". I don't though. I don't because I am well aware that it is a terrible photo and that Boris has a big camera advantage there. This is the big difference between me and you!
As for Christian, I'm not trying to get him on my side by any means. I know that's probably your biggest fear because you would be no one without him, but don't worry, he's all yours. All I was doing there was stating a fact: he sounds a lot more intelligent than you and he certainly doesn't blatantly lie about things as much as you do...

Jordan87 said on 18/Nov/17
@dreampuffe,

My logic is looking at robs picture and knowing ray is not over 6'2".

Canson said on 18/Nov/17
@Andrea: you did exactly what i said you would ,Turn this around on me and divert the attention from what you do . You made a very direct statement which was there is only one picture of Boris looking significantly under 6’4. I posted the one of Foxx of course and you counter with one of your famous excuses about him possibly being a lift wearer. Next i post one of Elba looking taller and you say well in the video he isn’t. Ok we aren’t talking about the video. You specifically said that there aren’t any pics of him being significantly under 6’4” which i answered very directly to you. It’s just that when someone posts directly to you you have a hard time comprehending things #1 because you aren’t very intelligent, or #2 you make an excuse and change the subject or turn the post around someone which you do regularly and very well.

And it is you who has run to Rob now on about 6 occasions. Go look at the posts you have made. You went and asked him because you are insecure and unsure of yourself. So don’t accuse me of something you do and try to deflect the attention away from yourself just accept it. Lol so how is me “bringing up” Bennett’s name running to someone else? Please show me where Bennett and i have any other type of interaction or where i even asked him any questions. You can’t. And you saying what you did about Bennett being questionable. Like i mentioned you wouldn’t even be saying that if A. Rob didn’t bring up the fact that he posts under multiple names (another lifeline that rob threw you because you are indefensible on your own as we well know now) and B. Had he said he met him and been 6’4” like listed. If the latter you definitely wouldn’t have said a word because it favored your argument. if the former you wouldn’t have bashed him like you did instead it would be that you simply disagreed with him. But since you wanna make accusations like you do along with excuses about me needing reassurance, you are wrong. You’re doing and saying what you are just to feel better about yourself because you are on the losing side of the argument and don’t know when to stop. And turning it on me saying i do it. But that’s how people who are both sorry and unintelligent like you are do. They become argumentative as well and hypocritical in an attempt to deflect the attention away from themselves. They Instead you stoop to this level (like you accuse me of) to make yourself feel better. To put it plainly i brought up a fact. That fact is that you do run to Rob for reassurance which you do. It’s written all over Boris’s page where you did. Me bringing up Bennett and Christian along with 6’3, Bobby and Mr. R are also facts because you either discount their stories, disagree with them, bash them, or called them liars or incapable of determining height differences. So these are facts about you and what you do. They aren’t reassurances or me needing reassurance from anyone. They are Not accusations like you are making against me. Learn the difference. As far as credibility goes, you continuing to turn posts around on people and making excuses like you do along with how you call people liars because their height assessments aren’t in line with yours speaks volume to the amount of (sorry) lack of credibility you have

Andrea said on 17/Nov/17
Of course you don't care about "other occurences". You don't because all you do is cherry pick terrible photos in order to make your "estimates" believable or, when challenged, you just make ridiculous excuses or you just lie about the actual height difference. I could easily do the same and post pictures or videos where Boris looks 6'5 range or over, but I don't because, unlike you, I am not biased. It's funny that you say that I need "reassurance", which is certainly not the case, when you yourself always have to bring other people up in the discussion. You always do it with Christian and now you even try to do it with Bennett. You must be really desperate if you have to bring a very questionable "poster" like Bennett up, LOL. The bottom line is you can't have a single discussion on your own because you're obviously full of insecurities. The fact that you constantly accuse me of things you're guilty of proves it. That's basic psychology.
P.S. Don't even talk about credibility, Canson. You never had one. You are the guy who goes on pages of celebrities you don't even know, you comment about their height and you probably even submit a vote (like you did with Zachary and Wayne Brady, the same Wayne Brady who suddenly became shorter than your "as listed" estimate when everybody, except for you of course, agreed that he looked at least 5 inches shorter than Boris). You are the guy who posts random sites with random listings/descriptions as some kind of evidence that a celebrity is this or that height. You are the guy who totally buys what random visitors on here say (only when it's convenient for you though, see what happened with moe), like how tall they are or how tall the celebrities they say they have met looked "in person", and even try to compare them to Rob, by saying that Rob is not any different. Oh, and you are the guy who has no clue about height differences and/or has to lie about them to make his "estimates" believable. You are a just a big joke, Canson! 👍

Dreampuffe(5'9.5") said on 17/Nov/17
@Jordan87 going by your logic, Colin Salmon would be just 6’3”.

Also, Joe Manganiello would be no more than 6’4”.

Canson said on 17/Nov/17
@Andrea: the picture with Idris Elba he also looks “noticeably” below 6’4 as Idris is taller. And no i don’t care about “other” occurrences with Elba where he may appear taller because again you made a very specific statement saying “you don’t see any pics where he looks below 6’4”. He does in the Elba pic but of course as Christian and i and probably most of the posters here were anticipating some sort of excuse out of your mouth as to why that pic was no good. You didn’t let us down. It became well in the video or the other pic. Then the Jamie Foxx pic you proved us right. You are mentioning Foxx of wearing lifts and don’t come back and say you didn’t. You didn’t come out and say he does but you have to question it and that is an excuse. That’s no different than you basically accusing him of it. That’s any picture of it where Boris is under 6’4”. Remember the Michael Jordan picture of course where you bring up the “big four excuses you did” when you knew the difference in height there yet now it is that Jordan only has Boris by an inch and that he’s shorter than Boris in another pic.

So you want to talk about not having credibility to begin with. You all but accused Christian and me of being Bennett then say you “thought Christian and I were the same person”. Then accuse someone of wearing lifts. Then tell people they “can not assess heights properly” or that you don’t believe they met Boris in person. Then even told a poster who you don’t even know (flat out called him out) about his estimate when you called out 6’3” saying how poor of an estimator he was just because it didn’t align with yours. Then, of course, Rob threw you a lifeline with Bennett because he told us that Bennett was under multiple usernames. That just gave you more ammunition to find something and attack him as well yet had he said Boris was 6’4 you wouldn’t have bothered to. You would’ve believed him. So you should only expect someone calling you out in response to all of these things you said to everyone including us. Like me calling you a prostitute when you call us boyfriends because you did say all of this before either of us. Not to mention all along you have been making sarcastic remarks back to Christian and me in an attempt to belittle us or to try to make us look bad, hoping someone would jump in and join in on the loser party because you are on the losing side of the argument. Lol you honestly believe that “energizing” the other posters with that is going to have them jump in and attack Christian and me too. Justto provide yourself with some type of reassurance that you are justified or right. It ain’t that serious Andrea. Maybe think about all of this next time you want to begin attacking people because they disagree with you. And How many people (outsiders) during this argument have jumped in and against you? None to us though. Oh and don’t let me mention trying to win Christian over and get him on your side (like he said yes, driving a wedge)? You honestly believe that you even have enough credibility to have someone believe in you after all of the snide and rude, belittling remarks you have made to him as well and the lying and making excuses you have made when someone throws it right back in your face? So don’t even go there about never having credibility or not having any now because if anything you have relentlessly shown since this debate began that you have never had any and don’t seem to have a way to even begin to earn any.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 17/Nov/17
@Andrea

Sometimes comments get submitted twice, it's a glitch or a technical error. It happened to me quite a few times even though I clicked "submit" only once. And sometimes Canson posts twice because he wants to add another paragraph, like he just did on 15/Nov/17. Seriously are you that stupid?
And go ahead and keep on trying to turn me and Canson against each other, because you'll never succeed at that.

Jordan87 said on 17/Nov/17
Dreampurre ( 5'9.5,

Ray is a hug man, weighed 223 pounds of solid muscle for his Role in Justice League. He may Hit 6'2, but he certainly not over that mark. This means of course Affleck and Cavill are lower than I thought. Celebheights posted a Pic on the Cavill page with Fisher looking a sOLID 2" OVER Cavill while dropping Posture making Henry a 6 footer now, and Affleck Shorter than 6'2. Thats just the way it is my man, Fisher's pic here proves alot of things.

Andrea said on 17/Nov/17
Don't put words in my mouth, Canson. I never said that you lost credibility. I said that you never had one. Let's not forget that you are the guy who goes on pages of celebrities you don't even know, you comment about their height and you probably even submit a vote (like you did with Zachary and Wayne Brady, the same Wayne Brady who suddenly became shorter than your "as listed" estimate when everybody, except for you of course, agreed that he looked at least 5 inches shorter than Boris). You are the guy who posts random sites with random listings/descriptions as some kind of evidence that a celebrity is this or that height. You are the guy who totally buys what random visitors on here say (only when it's convenient for you though, see what happened with moe), like how tall they are or how tall the celebrities they say they have met looked "in person", and even try to compare them to Rob, by saying that Rob is not any different. Oh, and you are the guy who has no clue about height differences and/or has to lie about them to make his "estimates" believable.
Again, the only reason why I asked Rob his opinion about those photos is because you said that I am the only one who sees those differences and that I am biased because it's clearly more than that. But apparently this is not the case... It's funny that you say that I have to run to him when you yourself are not able to have a single discussion on your own without bringing your bff Christian up. Just like it's funny that you say that I don't have a mind of my own and just agree with every listing on here... Do you have any idea of how many times I have challenged Rob's listings? LOL Fortunately, I can think with my head because, unlike you, I have a brain. And guess what? Basically all celebrities that I challenged in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them.
That picture with Jamie is the only occasion where Boris looks noticeably shorter than 6'4 and I have no problem to "admit" that he doesn't look much over 6'2 there. You know, unlike you, I don't need to lie about height differences to make my estimates believable. I never said that Jamie wears lifts for sure because I haven't seen anything of him, but anything is possible. I mean, how do you explain him looking so close to Channing in those photos? According to your logic, Channing should be listed at 5'10-5'11 because that's how tall he looks in those pictures with Jamie. And in Channing's case, there are several pictures where he looks that low, if Jamie is only 5'9... As for Idris, are you really trying to use that picture as some kind of evidence? I'm sure that even Christian would agree that it is a quite useless picture. As I said, if I were as biased as you are, I would use the dude's video to say that Boris is over 2 inches taller than Idris, but I don't because I'm well aware that he has some camera advantage in that clip. This is the difference between me and you!
Trust me, Canson. Don't embarrass yourself more than you have already done and find another hobby! 👍 Or maybe just stick to calling your friends' height claims out and sharing those amazing experiences with us! 😁

Dreampuffe(5'9.5 said on 16/Nov/17
Saw the justice league. Fisher looked huge. He was literally wearing converse.

He isn’t under 6’2”

Andrea said on 16/Nov/17
Desperate? Why should I be desperate? LOL I just act according to how Canson acts: like a big joke. As for your beautiful and inspiring friendship with him, don't worry about it. I'm not gonna destroy it. If anything, I'm sure all this discussion has reinforced it. 😉👍

Andrea said on 16/Nov/17
Pff. You are so annoying, Canson. And you keep embarassing yourself. I already posted a picture where Boris looks taller than Michael on Boris' page. You obviously ignored it: Click Here And hey, I even drew a line because I know you are a special boy. 😊
P.S. Although I don't agree with many things that Christian has said, I don't think he's dumb. He sounds a lot more intelligent than you, besides the fact that, unlike you, he is able to submit his comments only once. You, on the other hand, are really dumb. One of the biggest jokes on here. Don't stop though. It is quite quite entertaining to see how much you can stoop low! 😂😂😂

Canson said on 16/Nov/17
Lol make points Andrea? The only thing you do is spend your day here accusing someone of lying and not knowing height differences and making excuses when someone answers your claims or accusations and criticizing people’s opinions that have claimed to have met the guy just because they don’t add up with what you think about his height. You said clearly “there are no pics of Boris looking under 6’4”. Go look at Boris’s page. The first thing you do is point out in the Jordan pic that there are issues with ground level, inability to see shoes etc. then when I posted a pic of Boris with Foxx you make an excuse saying “well he may wear lifts”. Well you were the one who said that you don’t see pics of him looking under 6’4”? That is a pic. Then the pic with Idris Elba he looks under 6’4” and is shorter than him and of course another excuse. You clearly show what you do. then you go and tell a poster (6’3) “bad English. You mean bad estimating” not to mention you tell three others who claimed to meet him that you think their estimates are wrong. So your posts are the ones that speak volumes for your character and ability to assess heights and the fact that when someone’s opinion differs from yours you attack and denigrate their opinion just as you have with Christian and me. All you do is try to get others (you’re doing it with Christian now) to take your side because you’re embarrassing yourself to provide yourself with reassurance. It shows when you run to Rob half a dozen times to ask his opinion. You just prove you are full of BS and can’t think on your own and are unsure of yourselfZ Weren’t you also the one who said that if Boris turned out to only be 6’3 that you would be so embarrassed that you would never come back here? Yes i agree with Christian and ill take back what i said you aren’t a fanboy you just can’t admit when you are wrong and will never admit it. If Boris wound up 6’4” and I’m wrong (if rob met him and provided proof or if Christian or i met him) I’d be the first to admit ok I’m wrong but you can’t do that. Instead you will continue to insult someone else saying stuff that makes no sense just because they’re making a fool out of you. It wouldn’t have gone this far had you not tried as hard as you did saying things like “We are boyfriends” or “we can’t gauge heights etc” or “if after all of this you don’t believe Boris is 6’4 then i give up”. Sure i said stuff too but in response and retaliation to what you said so doesn’t make it any different. You just like to deflect the attention away from you when you’re losing the argument and going in circles making the excuses you make. How many people not involved in this argument have come and called you out such as Bennett or put their two cents in for you to try to tell them they’re wrong. At the end of the day doesn’t matter who’s right because we may be all wrong as he may be right in the middle 6’3.5 which also means we may all be wrong since it’s not a legit 6’4 or you may be right or we may be right. Bottom line quit telling people they can’t assess heights when you’re sitting here telling us you see a 2cm or 1” difference with Boris and Haysbert in the one pic of just them then tell us you only see a 2cm diff with Kobe and he. Then make an excuse for Kobe’s eye level being higher. You’re the first to call me or Christian out when we attack a pick that way but when you make an excuse the picture is all wrong for some reason. You obviously have no clue of how to assess height you showed that over and over

Canson said on 15/Nov/17
@Christian: yep I have lost credibility 😂 according to Andrea 😞. Yet It’s funny to see how many outside people have jumped into the argument on this page and Boris’s page to tell her about herself such as Bennett and others yet she doesn’t realize it. Instead, she tells others such as Bennett 6’3 etc that they are trolls or can’t estimate then the others that their opinions are wrong. I mean someone that has to continue to tell you and me we are stupid and dont realize it or can’t assess heights sounds more like her trying to deflect the attention from her own insecurities that she has and her own deficiencies with herself. Lol she can continue to make the fool out of herself tho it’s fine by me. This is quite the comedy now

@Andrea: the only thing I realize is that you make excuses for everything and can’t argue to save your life and you need others to believe in you just to feel validation. 😂 I don’t need to say any more to you at all because you make a fool of yourself with the excuses. Your posts do the talking as to how intelligent you actually are and you like to deflect the attention away from yourself when you know how you look, to Christian and me by calling us dumb and unable to assess heights. Things you should be saying to your self when you call this a 1” height advantage by Boris (with Haysbert) yet say that Kobe only has him by 2cm. Sorry but Kobe has greater a difference (obviously) than Boris has on Hasybert. I could solicit Rob’s opinion on this but he’s your master not mine. I don’t need him to. The pictures speak for themselves. If you really do believe Kobe has Boris by an inch that’s nothing close between he and Haysbert

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Canson said on 15/Nov/17
@Andrea: the only thing I realize is that you make excuses for everything and can’t argue to save your life and you need others to believe in you just to feel validation. 😂 I don’t need to say any more to you at all because you make a fool of yourself with the excuses. Your posts do the talking as to how intelligent you actually are and you like to deflect the attention away from yourself when you know how you look, to Christian and me by calling us dumb and unable to assess heights. Things you should be saying to your self when you call this a 1” height advantage by Boris (with Haysbert) yet say that Kobe only has him by 2cm. Sorry but Kobe has greater a difference (obviously) than Boris has on Hasybert. I could solicit Rob’s opinion on this but he’s your master not mine. I don’t need him to. The pictures speak for themselves. If you really do believe Kobe has Boris by an inch that’s nothing close between he and Haysbert

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Andrea said on 15/Nov/17
Make points, Canson? 😂😂😂 Christian can say that, you can't. You're just full of sh*t. But again, what else can you expect from a guy who spends his days calling his friends's height claims out and reporting those incredible experiences on here? 😁

Andrea said on 15/Nov/17
You said it right, Christian: "he looked like he had better posture than Rob". Not everything is as obvious as you often think it is though...
P.S. It's cute how you still back Canson up, after certain comments he made. I'm pretty sure I am the one who has lost all credibility here. Not Canson. Me, right? To be fair to him though, I don't think he has lost credibility. I mean, you can't lose credibility, if you never had one: Click Here

Canson said on 15/Nov/17
@Christian: yep well said. Andrea will continue to attack us when we make points just to deflect the attention away from herself

Andrea said on 14/Nov/17
Whatever you say, Canson. As I said, you are a just big joke and sadly you don't even realize it!
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😊

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 14/Nov/17
@Andrea

The only reason why I thought Naprous was shorter than he's listed, was because he looked like he had better posture than Rob, until Rob said that they both had the same posture. But of course, you just have to come up with yet another sarcastic remark to make it seem like you're somehow intellectual, because you know you've lost virtually all credibility at this point. But somehow Canson's the one with no credibility according to you, Lmao.

Canson said on 14/Nov/17
Andrea I love how you point out the fact that the “picture” is bad with Boris and Idris on Boris’s page yet on this one with Foxx that you posted where you “claim” he looks 6’4 yet he still doesn’t you don’t even point out the lean that Christian just did. And you’re calling me a liar and dumb and not able to assess height differences, you need to look in the mirror because you are not only an imbocile you’re also a pathological liar who claims stuff as truth

Canson said on 14/Nov/17
@Andrea: you were the first one to attack Moe saying “he lost credibility with the Tom Welling estimate so please don’t go there. And I don’t believe everything he or other posters say. I also didn’t believe Goose when he claimed to have met a “6’7” Stern a “6’7” Robbins a “6’5” Conan a “6’2” Andy etc. I do my own research first and look at pics. Theler clearly says in a video Moe posted that he “only” wears flat shoes when he clearly has heeled shoes in almost every pic I’ve seen of him so my suspicion is warranted there. I bet had Moe said he met Boris and he’s 6’4” that you would probably have sided with him unlike how you told him he has lost credibility. You make up all types of **** calling people a liar just because they don’t agree with you. I can guarantee you that if I were to say Boris looked 7” taller than Wayne or “made the math work” to make them the heights you have both assessed at you wouldn’t be calling me a liar instead it would either be that I’m correct in my assumption or that “you may be a little off”. It’s because I’ve challenged you and I vehemently disagree with you that you’re using the strong word “lie” etc

Canson said on 14/Nov/17
Credibility Andrea? You’re the one going and suspecting that Foxx wears lifts so please don’t go there about credibility and please tell me how that is closer to 2cm with Kobe than 2”. It is minimum 1.5” and you can clearly see their footwear. You’re the one lying saying the footwear doesn’t make a difference. You “say” stuff like it is a fact when it’s not.

And taking into account the one that looks convenient for me??????????????😂😂😂😂😂😉😉😉You’re such a hypocrite because that’s exactly what you do for every pic where he looks 6’4” in your eyes. As Christian said when Boris looks 6’4” to you, you don’t say a thing, yet when he doesn’t you make every excuse in the world like saying Foxx “May” be wearing lifts or we can’t see ground level footwear etc lol and I’m a joke??? And again I see you choose pics where he looks like that but when you know he doesn’t you won’t include those pics. Quit it with the hypocrisy. You’re honestly making an ass out of yourself now lol

Edimar1.84 said on 13/Nov/17
He claim 6ft3, but never looks over 6ft2... Honesty, he looks at 6ft1.25 range, but is optic ilusion, he is 6ft2, but no more than this.

Andrea said on 13/Nov/17
Considering that the difference between Boris and Kobe looks no more than 3 cms, all things considered, yeah... 2 inches is a lot more laughable than 2 cms! Which is not a surprise, considering that he looks 6'4 with everyone else. Even with those guys you have mentioned, like Magic, Idris Elba and Rick Foxx. As for Idris, they did a movie together and there is a good comparison scene where Boris looks AT LEAST 1.5 inches taller than Boris. I don't even post it though because I'm sure you would find an excuse like you always did. As for Michael Jordan, we have two photos: one where he looks taller than Boris and one where he looks shorter. You can't take into consideration only the one that is convenient for you. I mean, the first one is not any better than the second one, considering that in neither of them we can see the footwear, the ground level or the way they are standing...
P.S. Don't even talk about credibility, Canson. You never had one. You are the guy who goes on pages of celebrities you don't even know, you comment about their height and you probably even submit a vote (like you did with Zachary and Wayne Brady, the same Wayne Brady who suddenly became shorter than your "as listed" estimate when everybody, except for you of course, agreed that he looked at least 5 inches shorter than Boris). You are the guy who posts random sites with random listings/descriptions as some kind of evidence that a celebrity is this or that height. You are the guy who totally buys what random visitors on here say (only when it's convenient for you though, see what happened with moe), like how tall they are or how tall the celebrities they say they have met looked "in person", and even try to compare them to Rob, by saying that Rob is not any different. Oh, and you are the guy who has no clue about height differences and/or has to lie about them to make his "estimates" believable. You are a just a big joke, Canson! 👍

Canson said on 13/Nov/17
@Christian: even with him losing height that’s still not more than maximum a 6” difference. Andrea was able to make the difference between Jordan and Boris an inch when it wasn’t somehow but this is more than 6” to her

Andrea said on 13/Nov/17
As obviously as Daniel Naprous did with Rob, Christian? 😊 In this case I agree with you because he certainly doesn't seem to be standing at his tallest there. How much he's really losing is harder to say though. In any case, he looks near 8 inches shorter than Boris in that photo. So, even if he's losing around an inch in posture like you say, he still would be near 7 inches shorter than Boris...

Canson said on 12/Nov/17
@Andrea: if you want to get technical about that pic you posted it actually looks the same difference as the other one i posted. Maybe slightly more but he’s still not over 6’3 with Foxx. A forehead is 4” and Foxx even leaning isn’t far from that. In your pic that’s not more than a 5-6” (max 6”) difference. So you shot yourself in the foot with that pic because it proves mine and Christian’s point. And where is the evidence of Foxx wearing lifts on stage there?

Canson said on 12/Nov/17
@andrea: so now there are “other” pics of Boris looking taller with Foxx? Ok I’ve also posted a pic of him being shorter than Idris Elba. You did post directly to me that you don’t have “any” pics of him not looking under 6’4”. There are at least 5. Kobe Magic Jordan Elba Foxx. Since you want to make this a “volume” argument it seems and choose the fact that he appears 6’4 in your mind more often than not yet most of your pics have flaws which you don’t mention yet you are very quick to conveniently find and make them up for the pics Christian and I post

Canson said on 12/Nov/17
@Andrea: 2 inches is more laughable than 2cm? Well if you take into account it’s definitely well over an inch even without footwear or the fact Boris is closer to the camera then it’s not more laughable. And funny you bring this up with Foxx all because he makes Boris under 6’3 let alone 6’4. Even if Channing And Foxx looked the same in their pics and Foxx appeared to wear lifts in your mind with other celebs yet Boris looked 6’4” with him you wouldn’t even be mentioning any of this. Like Christian said and I said you make excuses for every single thing when you’re wrong. 😂 😂 you really just said Jamie Foxx wears lifts. If anything else doesn’t show your credibility being shot this does!

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 12/Nov/17
@Andrea

Jamie was obviously losing height there because he was hunched. He was losing about an inch. Click Here

Canson said on 11/Nov/17
@Christian: then there’s the pic I posted with Idris Elba where Elba looks clearly taller than Boris and that was also just ignored. Actually she turned it around in a post to me when all I was doing was answering a post to her where she says “Boris never looks under 6’4”.

Andrea said on 11/Nov/17
Whenever??? That's the only occasion where Boris looks noticeably shorter than his listing, actually! I'm not saying that Jamie wears lifts for sure and I'm not accusing him of nothing. I'm just saying that Boris certainly isn't the only celebrity that looks noticeably shorter than his listing with Jamie. I mean, Channing looks at least 2 inches shorter than his listing there. Is he really that short (5'10-5'11)? I doubt it. And let me say that I ignored on purpose the fact that there are other pictures of them (Boris and Jamie) where Boris looks noticeably taller than how he does in that picture you have posted: Click Here And Jamie is standing a lot closer to the camera...
As for Kobe, Canson, you said that he looks at least 2 inches taller than Boris. That's a lot more laughable than 2 cms! 😂😂😂

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 10/Nov/17
@Andrea

You just proved Canson's point when he said that whenever Boris doesn't look 6'4" in a pic, you make every excuse in the book. First it was ground level and footwear, and now lifts? You're seriously accusing Jamie of wearing lifts? All because you want Boris to be 6'4" so bad?

Canson said on 10/Nov/17
@Andrea: I often add more which I can do being this is a free site. But I’m the dumb one considering you said that Kobe looks 2cm taller than Boris 😂😂😂😂? I guess you need anyone and everyone to agree with you just to feel validation to justify your sorry existence and like I mentioned below I knew it was a matter of time before an excuse would come out about the “inadequate” difference with Boris and Jamie Foxx. Lol now he wears lifts?😂😂😂😂

Jordan87 said on 10/Nov/17
Rob,

For the Record I read an Article that states Fisher got up to 223 pounds for the Role of Cyborg.

And this Tussle between Andrea, Canson and Christian puts me and Dan Chernua to Shame. Matter in fact, it puts ALI vs. Frazier to Shame. All 3 of their Bouts.

Andrea said on 10/Nov/17
Canson, I of course know that you and Christian are two different persons. Have you ever heard about irony? I guess not.
Again, are you able to read an entire comment and fully understand it? When did I say that "I agree about visitors looking about it in more detail"? I said that visitors can help Rob to have a better idea about the height of celebrities he adds that maybe he doesn't have a detailed look at. I'm not talking about those visitors who simply submit a vote to the Average Guess and don't even take a look at the celebrity before doing that. Visitors like you that go on Zachary Levi's page, say he's 6'2.75, maybe even vote for that and later say that you don't know him and that you have no idea of how tall he is...
You're right about one thing. He looks noticeably shorter than 6'4 with Jamie. I forgot about that. My bad. Does Jamie wear lifts though? I mean, he makes Channing look no more than 5'10-5'11 here: Click Here Click Here Jamie is in fact the only guy who makes Boris look noticeably shorter than 6'4. With the other guys you named, like Kobe and Magic, he still looks near enough 6'4 (192 at worst with Kobe), no matter how much you lie about the actual height difference in the photos...
It's funny that you say that I dodge questions, when I've always tried to answer to every argument of yours (even when I shouldn't have). You on the other hand have dodged 20+ pictures/videos by simply saying that they are bad and when you couldn't do it, you simply made ridiculous excuses. So once again, you accuse me of things you're guilty of. It's entertaining and cringeworthy at the same time to see how much you can stoop low, Canson! 😂😂😂
P.S. Are you able to submit your comments only ONCE? I think that one is already enough to prove your intelligence. We don't need two. Come on, it's not so hard! 😊

Canson said on 10/Nov/17
@Cheistian: Andrea has always dodged questions or turns your posts around on you when she is wrong or has no rebuttal (which has been quite frequently) to one of our arguments. If it’s not that she will lie in her response back (like diminishing height differences by cheating a height difference on the person Boris is with such as Jordan and Boris or Boris and Haysbert regardless of the factors in the picture such as stance etc). Then if the pic makes Boris less than adequate for her argument (under 6’4 or even under 6’3) such as with Jamie Foxx she will throw out every excuse in the book or try to make you sound stupid such as “I would’ve thought Boris and Haysbert were 6’2 and 6’1” when a response was to simply show Boris looks below 6’3 at times. Like you said she dodged questions and even dodges responses to her own questions to you. And it’s always something smart or sarcastic back to us or it’s some comment prefaced by a smiley face where she is essentially laughing at what we said or trying to get everyone else to do it thinking she is being funny but little does she know she makes an ass out of herself because they are all honest logical responses back to her questions she asks that she can’t challenge. That’s how people like that are tho when they can’t argue for **** and have to get what they feel is an authoritative figure involved just because they are weak. You have her BS all figured out very well

Canson said on 10/Nov/17
@Cheistian: Andrea has always dodged questions or turns your posts around on you when she is wrong or has no rebuttal (which has been quite frequently) to one of our arguments. If it’s not that she will lie in her response back (like diminishing height differences by cheating a height difference on the person Boris is with such as Jordan and Boris or Boris and Haysbert regardless of the factors in the picture such as stance etc). Then if the pic makes Boris less than adequate for her argument (under 6’4 or even under 6’3) such as with Jamie Foxx she will throw out every excuse in the book or try to make you sound stupid such as “I would’ve thought Boris and Haysbert were 6’2 and 6’1” when a response was to simply show Boris looks below 6’3 at times. Like you said she dodged questions and even dodges responses to her own questions to you. And it’s always something smart or sarcastic back to us or it’s some comment prefaced by a smiley face. That’s how people like that are tho when they can’t argue for **** and have to get what they feel is an authoritative figure involved just because they are weak. You have her BS all figured out very well

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/Nov/17
@Andrea

Just an excuse for your lack of awareness. How many more excuses do you have to make, Andrea?

Canson said on 9/Nov/17
@Andrea: do you just realize what you said to Rob? You agreed about visitors looking about it in more detail. So with Boris Khodjoe what do you think is going on with him when the majority of the posters say the guy is below 6’4” more than likely? They look at him in more detail. And you just said that there isn’t a single occasion where he looks that low? He does with Kobe Magic and Jordan and looks well under 6’3 with Jamie Foxx. You just admitted previously that he didn’t with Jamie Foxx didn’t you? So yes everything Christian said is correct. You avoid and change subject when you have no answer. And you contradicted yourself here just because there are photos of him being shorter than 6’4 even less than 6’3” just because they kill your argument. You make this a volume argument just because you found bad pictures of him looking the height you claim he is and there are more of them. However you cherrypick and you will avoid the pics where he doesn’t look like he is that tall or you will make your infamous excuses about them like you always do

Canson said on 9/Nov/17
@Andrea: Christian didn’t call you the prostitute, I did. I own up when I say something to someone. And it was in response to you calling us boyfriends which you can’t deny you did. He actually hasn’t called you anything derogatory since the argument started

Andrea said on 9/Nov/17
Oh really, Christian? It wasn't you? I thought you and Canson were the same person... 😊

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 9/Nov/17
@Andrea

Oh my Lord, Do you not pay any attention?? Canson was the one who called you a prostitute, not me! The only thing I did was bring up the fact that he called you a prostitute to show your hypocrisy, that's it. Like I said, the only things I've ever called you were "biased" "illogical" "hypocritical" and "ridiculous". Why should anyone take your arguments seriously when you can't even get your facts straight!?

Anonymous said on 8/Nov/17
6'1.75" in photo.

Andrea said on 8/Nov/17
Again with this Pamela Anderson story? LOL
"Editor Rob:

funnily Pamela started on the site at 5ft 5 in 2004, then at one point was given 5ft 6 flat for many years before being put back down to the original, which seems a more believable mark.

With 10,000 pages and lots of information on each page, it's a big and evolving task managing a site like this 👍 I'm sure there are still a few thousand celebrities on here I haven't looked at for 10 years, even Robbins I hadn't looked at in detail.

that's why comments are very useful, sometimes if a visitor has been looking at something in more detail than I might have, they can mention it. I might then take note and find time to look again at an entry and see if an adjustment should be made 👌"
That's exactly what I tried to say on Boris' page. The more you see of a person, the better idea you get of their height. You obviously can't have a detailed look at every person on the site, considering that you have a huge amount of celebrities. That's why visitors are (or I should say can be) very useful. In Boris' case, considering that there isn't even a single occasion where he looks as low as 6'3, it would make no sense to say that he is as low as that. It's simple logic. The only reason why Rob had Pamela at 5'6 is because he probably hadn't seen enough of her or just wanted to be a bit optmistic. I'm sure he's never ruled out something like 5'5. What about Callum Blue, then? Rob had him at 6' before he met him and now has him at 6'1. According to your logic, Boris could even be 6'5 range in person. I'd safely rule it out though, because he never looked that tall (well maybe with overlisted celebrities), just like he never looked as short as 6'3. It's also funny that you say that I don't have a mind of my own and just agree with every listing on here... Do you have any idea of how many times I have challenged Rob's listings? LOL Fortunately, I can think with my head because, unlike you, I have a brain. And guess what? Basically all celebrities that I challenged in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. Anyway, what I was talking about in my last comment wasn't Rob's estimate for Boris, but his "opinion" about the difference between Boris and Kobe. You say that there is clearly 2 inches between them, but it's not so clear if even Rob, who certainly has more knowledge about height and height differences than you and, unlike you, is not biased, says there's only one inch...

Canson said on 8/Nov/17
@Andrea: there you go again bringing your “master” Rob into this again. I guess nothing matters but what Rob says. Of course that’s the way it is to you because you don’t have a mind of your own as we all said which is why you go to him in the first place. So being Rob has never met either his guess is as good as ours. I mean as Christian highlighted you do realize that he had Pamela Anderson at 5’6 and change now once he met her it’s now 5’5”. Same with ray fisher and Joe M even well after he met them he lowered them so shows he’s human. He also had Tony Robbins 6’7” now has a peak of 6’6 and a current 6’5”. He’s just as prone to error as the next person despite how great he is because he is after all human.

Jordan87 said on 8/Nov/17
Shredder,

Yeah, I mean A guy like Affleck may have measured himself and included his hair with that 6'3" Claim, and him now dropping under 6'2 isn't a total shock either to me.

Junior,
Yeah I'd say that is Fair. Ben could be 6'2" in the early morning Hrs, I remember years back he had Gandolfini by around 2" of height. Not sure I would call Ben a " Strong 6'2" Anymore, rather a weak 6'2" for a good portion of the day.

Andrea said on 8/Nov/17
LOL, whatever you say, Canson. I'll let you have the last word and end the discussion here! One thing, it's funny that you say that I lie about Kobe's picture when even Rob sees the same difference I see. I guess we're both lying. Again, why don't you open your own celebheights site, if you are so convinced of what you say? I'm sure you would have a lot of success with it! 😂😂😂

Canson said on 8/Nov/17
@Andrea: you seriously need to do a lot of growing up. You’re turning this around on Christian and me because we don’t agree with you. You even go as far as to say that we are “lying” because we don’t submit to what you say and don’t see it your way. That is not only childish but is also sad and pathetic. But. At doesn’t surprise me. You get offended by someone questioning your education and insisting Christian makes you look bad. Doesn’t take much to do that because you Initiated this and he just calls you on your BS just like I do. And of course you must run to Rob to bail you out because you can’t think on your own or stand on your own two feet. And I also thought you had half a brain but I guess I was wrong because that half doesn’t exist. I don’t get angry about the comments you make I just explain why I make the comments back to you because you called two grown men boyfriends yet you take obviously, being called a prostitute offensively. You make these comments to us in what you say as joking so why is it not ok for us to say it back to you? And quit saying someone lies because you do a lot of that too. Saying Jordan and Kobe don’t look but an inch taller than Boris and try to cheat the measurements when one is leaning or closer to the camera. Then say “we can’t see ground level” etc but neither can you in the Boris and Haysbert pics. But this is all understood being that you “need” us to believe you and go along with your estimates just so you can feel some sort of validation with yourself.

Junior said on 8/Nov/17
With footwear advantage Ray look 2-2.5cm taller than Ben. Even without the shoe thing they're 1/4-3/8 difference. Fisher will not be higher than 6-1.8-6'2 after few hours taken from above picture as rob mention he was at his low with Fisher. Ben min 6'1.5" (186.7cm) and Fisher min 6'1.8" (187.5cm)

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Andrea said on 7/Nov/17
Upset? Why? Because you don't agree with me? 😂😂😂 I already told you. Your opinion is not as important as you think it is on here, Canson. Don't flatter yourself! Yeah, I thought you were a reasonable guy because I thought, from the very few posts of yours I read, that you were better than the "average poster" on here, but you obviously are not. My bad. You see only what you want to see and you lie about actual height differences in photos to make celebrities as tall as you want. And Boris is just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, you did it with him, so you could potentially do it with every other celebrity. I don't know how your posts can be taken seriously, after certain comments you made...
And stop complaining about certain words I have used. You cry for a "stupid", when you previously called me a prostitute. As I said, you want the trash talk? You get the trash talk. If you don't like it, next time think twice before doing it. But again, you should be used to that because I'm certainly not the first one that you attack and insult, right? Every person that doesn't agree with you automatically gets that treatment. Grow up, Canson!

Shredder said on 7/Nov/17
Yeah I'm shocked by Affleck , the truth might have always been that he was 6'3 in shoes and about 6'1.75 barefoot , it shows that even tall guys lie. This is the reason this site is needed , people have been thinking he is 6'2 , 6'3 or more for 20 years and with Rob we now know he is 6'2 on a great day

Jordan87 said on 7/Nov/17
Shredder ,
I agree there. Fisher with Rob really pulls affleck down lower than I thought . Sub 6'2 def by evening. Cavil also is around 6'0 now imo rather than even 6'0.5.

Andrea said on 7/Nov/17
That's exactly what you're doing, Christian. Playing the old "bigot" card everytime you lose an argument (so always). You are the one who first attacked me for saying that your arguments are stupid and that you never went to school. The only reason why I brought the prostitute thing up is because you and Canson said a lot worse than that (not only with me), yet you are trying to make me appear as the bad one. And yeah, the fact that you got so triggered for a joke like calling you and Canson boyfriends and brought it up after over one month shows that you have serious issues about it, especially if you consider that I never called you gay. I mean, one thing is disproving, one thing is crying like you did. It's also funny that you say "Same thing if someone says that I'm a woman, and then I disprove by saying I'm a man, does that make me a misogynist?", which is exactly what you've been doing to me for months. Have you ever seen me complaining about it? Nope, because I certainly don't consider it an insult and I don't care what you think.
Again, the only reason why I asked Rob his opinion about those photos is because you said that I am the only one who sees those differences and that I am biased because it's clearly more than that. But apparently this is not the case... 😊

Shredder said on 6/Nov/17
I see a legit 6'2 for him and Affleck might be shorter than we think , 6'1.5 or so

Canson said on 6/Nov/17
@Winning not Whining: what is your point in saying what you are to Christian and changing his name in each post? What are you trying to accomplish by doing that?

Canson said on 6/Nov/17
@Andrea: yes you should know the word “Hypocrisy” very well because you are the poster child for it. Everything you claim Christian and I do (lie, poor at estimating heights, the whole 9) you do as well. You contradict yourself and fool yourself into believing or lie to yourself whichever. And did you really say you didn’t call someone gay? What is calling two men being boyfriends? That is an alternative lifestyle which is considered being homosexual. But yes you are the educated one here at least from what you say

Winning Not Whining said on 6/Nov/17
@Christianity 5’6 8/3

I have never had beef with you. I am a vegetarian. Believe Me.

Mimi said on 6/Nov/17
He does seem a height conscious guy. In posing with his co-stars in JL he's always in a very proud posture.

Andrea said on 6/Nov/17
Sure, because it's really the same thing being a prostitute and being gay (which is something I have NEVER said, btw). The fact that you brought it up again and even tried to compare it to being a prostitute proves what I already said. You're also homophobic! As I said, the funny thing is that it had nothing to do with being gay. It was just a mere joke based on the fact that you seem to get along so well with each other and that you are not able to have a discussion on your own without bringing up the other one. And I still think it. The way you constantly back each other up on every page is truly cringeworthy!
P.S. I never got "butthurt" for Canson's "joke". As I said, I even laughed at that one. And, to be honest, where is the joke in telling someone that they have to prostitute themselves? If someone told your mother that she has to prostitute herself, would you still consider it a joke, Christian? The only reason why I brought it up is because Canson was acting as if he is the educated and good one and I am the rude and bad one, when he did a lot "worse" than what I did (not only with me) and he knows it. Even there, the key word is one: H Y P O C R I S Y .

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 6/Nov/17
@Andrea

Well you're not any less of a hypocrite than I am. You were a hypocrite when you joked about Canson and I being boyfriends once, and then got all butthurt and criticized Canson when he joked that you were a prostitute that was selling yourself in the streets. When you make idiotic allegations like that (even though you claimed it was a joke), then expect to get repaid. Canson had every right to make that allegation about you because you did it to me and him first.

Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 5/Nov/17
I think a solid 189cm is a better fit

Andrea said on 5/Nov/17
Well, there's no need to explain yourself because your comment speaks for itself. It's funny you tell me to stop acting like I'm any better than you when that's exactly what you're doing. You are the one who first attacked me for calling Canson liar for lying about the actual difference between two people, when you did the exact same thing two weeks before! If this is not being hypocrite, I don't know what it is. So quit being hypocrite and stop accusing me of things you're guilty of!

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 5/Nov/17
@Canson

Don't mind any attention to that WinningNotWhining guy. He goes by multiple usernames (one of them named Agent Orange) and only comments on this site to troll me. I'm betting that it's either Anon2 or Juggernaut or some other poster whom I had beef with in the past.

ArnieDan said on 5/Nov/17
He looks 186. What does that make Affleck lol. I really don't get why tall people fraud about their height. If you are a legit 6 footer, then what is the point?

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 5/Nov/17
@Andrea

If you want to view me as a hypocrite, then go ahead. I'm just about done trying to explain myself, because nothing I say seems to penetrate your thick skull. But I would ask you to stop acting like you're any better than me, because you did the same thing I did.

Canson said on 5/Nov/17
@junior and Jordan87: I agree and fisher also has less hair than Affleck so it’s def a diff in height with them

Canson said on 5/Nov/17
@winningnotwhining: who is Chrissy 5’6 8/3?

Canson said on 5/Nov/17
@Andrea: to be fair I was also on that page commenting and juggernaut and Anon2 both did their best to upgrade Brock. And 6’2.75 is nonsense for him like Christian said esp when as a fully grown adult he was 6’2.25 and listed 6’2” in the NFL. There are also several people on that page trying to say he’s taller than Roman reigns when he really isn’t. Reigns has a better chance of being over 6’2” by a hair than Lesnar does

WinningNotWhining said on 4/Nov/17
@Chrissy - 5’6 8/3
You are fake news.The bigliest. Believe Me.

Andrea said on 4/Nov/17
Lol, that's one of the lamest excuses ever, Christian! You clearly told that guy that the reason why you were attacking him wasn't because he thought Brock was 6'2+ (which is what you are trying to say now), but because he was lying about the actual difference between them. I think your comment is pretty clear! The funny thing is that you attacked me because I called Canson liar, when you basically did the same thing (because, yeah, it is exactly the same thing, no matter how much you try to justify yourself) to another guy not even 2 weeks ago. This is called being hypocrite!!!

Junior said on 4/Nov/17
@Jordan87 @Canson

We all know there is 1/4 or 1cm between Fisher and Affleck. If Fisher lowest is 6'2 then Ben is not higher than 6'1.75" and if Fisher is really 6'2.25" then Ben still needs a downgrade for a flat 6'2 while i see 6'4.75" Charles Barkley make Ben look like weak 6'1 but i see Ben had flat sneakers on and Barkley thin boots style. Like Canson say 6'1.5" maybe at Ben lowest like someone met him in real is possible too and honestly Fisher look 187+cm with Rob.

Click Here: Here Ben look 4' lower than Barkley

Click Here: Ben look struggle with tilting head up.

Click Here: Ben sneakers can be see here it looks 2cm style too bad can only see Barkley back view while footwear get covered by a chair.

Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 3/Nov/17
@Andrea

You just love to keep bringing up the Lesnar page. Yes, I may have "attacked" Juggernaut and told him he was lying, but it was justifiable, because Lesnar was actually measured in 2004 at 6'2.25" in the NFL draft, so him being any taller than 6'2.25" is out of the realm of possibility. And most likely even lower (maybe between 6'1.75"-6'2" night) because NFL heights are done early in the day. Yet Juggernaut tried to say that he was 6'2.75", which I know is BS, that's why I called him out for it.
You on the other hand, can't justify what you did when you called Canson a liar about the Boris situation, because we don't have any documents or data of Boris being measured a certain height.

Canson said on 3/Nov/17
@Andrea: if you compare this one to others it is slightly. Joe Mangianello is an example rob looks over by a hair on that one whereas in this pic his hair is over that’s all

Andrea said on 3/Nov/17
Yeah, that's exactly what I am talking about, Rob. In Ray's case, the photographic difference, like you called it, is somewhere between 5 and 6 inches. Maybe right around 5.5 inches or a bit more. Not as low as 5 inches or under and not as much as 6 inches or over. That's a FACT! Speaking of that, considering that you said that his footwear "made you" more 5'8 flat than a fraction over, he basically looks 6'1.5-6'1.75 range here, all things considered.
P.S. I think that even a guy like Big Al is more of a "6'2" than Dom! 😊

Andrea said on 3/Nov/17
I don't think the height chart is off, Canson. I think Rob always positions the 5'8 mark around the top of his head for practical reasons, even if we all know that he never dips under 5'8 1/8. In fact, it is something I always take into consideration when I take a look at the height charts. I think Ray looks around 187 here, give or take a few mms. But again, Rob said that he looked taller than this in person...

Andrea said on 3/Nov/17
To be honest, I do feel like a broken record, Christian. If height differences are really an opinion, why did you attack that guy on Lesnar's page then? You can't say that they are an opinion and, at the same time, attack someone just because he doesn't see the same way you do and even say "Don't lie!". Sure, in a sense, they are an opinion, meaning that anyone can say anything and one can even say that Ray looks 6' or 6'4 with Rob. They are still opinions, yeah. Wrong opinions, though, because it's pretty clear that he looks 187 on here, not 6' nor 6'4! That's a FACT!
As for the footwear, I can even agree that it is speculation. To a certain degree, though. Rob has a very good knowledge about shoes and he has measured many kind of them. And he even uploaded many videos to show how much they actually give, when he still had the Sneakers' page. So I doubt he can be off by more than a small fraction, when he says that this or that guy has footwear advantage/disadvantage...

Hansel said on 3/Nov/17
6'2.25 is okay for him for this picture.

Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 2/Nov/17
@Andrea

I feel like a broken record. No, height differences are not a fact. Different people have different opinions on the height difference between two (or more) individuals. They'll think it's more/less, because they have different opinions on posture, footwear and camera angle. I believe the reason why some think Ray's looks taller than listed, is because they think he has worse posture than Rob, while others who think he looks shorter than listed (such as you), is maybe because you think his posture isn't bad, and because Rob said that Ray had more footwear than him (which is entirely speculation because just because a particular footwear "looks" like it'll give you a certain height, doesn't mean it actually will, and I know this because I have a pair that looks like it's 1.25" from the outside but actually gives me only 0.75", and another pair that looks like 0.5" but gives me 7/8") If height differences are a fact like you say, they why isn't every single visitor here saying that Ray looks 187cm here? Opinions vary, while facts don't, that's why you see many people here giving different estimates like 188cm, 189cm, and 190cm.