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6ft 3.31in (191.3cm)
Andrea said on 15/May/18
I still think that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact", Christian. In fact, I did say that you saying that Boris looks 6'3 in some pics is just your opinion, AT THE VERY MOST, otherwise I would have hurt your feelings.
And I do perfectly know what "running" means because I've seen Canson do it a lot with you... And although I'm Italian and English is not my native language, unlike you, I do understand a lot more things than you because there are certain things that go beyond the language itself and that you can't understand if you don't have a brain (like you have proved more than once).
As for Rob, I never denied asking him things either and I have already explained you why. And I don't really understand why you keep bringing it up and why you are so obsessed about that. Well, apart from the fact that he doesn't agree with you, which is something that you really can't stand, LOL.
I still think that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact", Christian. In fact, I did say that you saying that Boris looks 6'3 in some pics is just your opinion, AT THE VERY MOST, otherwise I would have hurt your feelings.
And I do perfectly know what "running" means because I've seen Canson do it a lot with you... And although I'm Italian and English is not my native language, unlike you, I do understand a lot more things than you because there are certain things that go beyond the language itself and that you can't understand if you don't have a brain (like you have proved more than once).
As for Rob, I never denied asking him things either and I have already explained you why. And I don't really understand why you keep bringing it up and why you are so obsessed about that. Well, apart from the fact that he doesn't agree with you, which is something that you really can't stand, LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Yeah, Canson, go on making up bullsh*ts. You basically keep proving every single thing I've said about you... đ
To be honest, I don't even blame you for that anymore. I just pity you. You are just a pathetic, broken man.
P.S. It's funny how you say that you don't need to run to others for reassurance, when you always have to bring up other posters in almost every comment of yours and praise other people's comments (especially Christian's) with cringeworthy statements such as "your last post was priceless", "well said", "agreed",etc. because you're obviously not able to have a discussion on your own and express your thoughts using your own words, which is certainly not surprising, considering that you have the dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 years old kid (on good days), LOL.
Yeah, Canson, go on making up bullsh*ts. You basically keep proving every single thing I've said about you... đ
To be honest, I don't even blame you for that anymore. I just pity you. You are just a pathetic, broken man.
P.S. It's funny how you say that you don't need to run to others for reassurance, when you always have to bring up other posters in almost every comment of yours and praise other people's comments (especially Christian's) with cringeworthy statements such as "your last post was priceless", "well said", "agreed",etc. because you're obviously not able to have a discussion on your own and express your thoughts using your own words, which is certainly not surprising, considering that you have the dialectical and speaking skills of a 10 years old kid (on good days), LOL.
Andrea said on 15/May/18
Christian, my pic of Boris and Cam is at "bad angle" just because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam. That's very simple! The other photo you posted, on the other hand, is better just because Cam is closer to the camera and Boris looks shorter than he is, which is exactly what you want.
And again, I didn't accuse you of creating multiple usernames. Although I certainly don't think highly of you, to be honest, I don't think you would do something like that. The reason why I said "people" is because all those people I've mentioned (free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc.) are one person alone, namely viper. You may be right, though. You don't misunderstand... You just don't understand sh*t!
Christian, my pic of Boris and Cam is at "bad angle" just because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam. That's very simple! The other photo you posted, on the other hand, is better just because Cam is closer to the camera and Boris looks shorter than he is, which is exactly what you want.
And again, I didn't accuse you of creating multiple usernames. Although I certainly don't think highly of you, to be honest, I don't think you would do something like that. The reason why I said "people" is because all those people I've mentioned (free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc.) are one person alone, namely viper. You may be right, though. You don't misunderstand... You just don't understand sh*t!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 14/May/18
@Canson
Wow, thanks! Your 12/May comment was just as good!
@Canson
Wow, thanks! Your 12/May comment was just as good!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 13/May/18
@Andrea
I didn't say that Rob's wrong, he just has his opinions and I have mine. But just because he's measured many types of shoes and ran this site for 13 years, it doesn't mean that he has more objective knowledge about footwear and heights than anyone else in the world. And if Boris looking 6'3" in some pics is just my opinion, why did you say before that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact" on Ray Fisher's page? See, you just contradicted yourself once again.
And if your definition of "run" is defending someone that you agree with, or mentioning someone's name, then you're totally wrong. "Running" is essentially going to someone to ask something from them or do you a favor. But I don't think I have to waste my time pulling up the dictionary definition this time because you're clearly too dumb to get it. But I'm gonna go a bit lenient on you because you're Italian so English may not be your native language.
I know I've asked Rob a few times how tall he thinks someone is in the past, but you can't call me a hypocrite because I never denied doing it. But I've never done it in the middle of a debate with someone in order to attempt to disprove their arguments (like you do, and that's the issue I have with you regarding this topic), and I've never done it regarding Boris. I've never asked Rob how tall does he think Boris is in a pic, but you've done it many times.
And "hyperbole" is based on exaggeration, and exaggeration means: "to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal". Saying that you'd actually have no problem if Boris turns out to be 6'3", then making a "hyperbole" that you'll never come back to the site out of embarrassment if turns out to be 6'3", is a direct contradiction, and not an exaggeration. It would be an exaggeration if you said that you'll actually be angry, sad, embarrassed or shocked, but saying that you'd have no problem is not an exaggeration, but a contradiction. So either you made an excuse, or you lied.
@Andrea
I didn't say that Rob's wrong, he just has his opinions and I have mine. But just because he's measured many types of shoes and ran this site for 13 years, it doesn't mean that he has more objective knowledge about footwear and heights than anyone else in the world. And if Boris looking 6'3" in some pics is just my opinion, why did you say before that "height differences aren't an opinion, but a fact" on Ray Fisher's page? See, you just contradicted yourself once again.
And if your definition of "run" is defending someone that you agree with, or mentioning someone's name, then you're totally wrong. "Running" is essentially going to someone to ask something from them or do you a favor. But I don't think I have to waste my time pulling up the dictionary definition this time because you're clearly too dumb to get it. But I'm gonna go a bit lenient on you because you're Italian so English may not be your native language.
I know I've asked Rob a few times how tall he thinks someone is in the past, but you can't call me a hypocrite because I never denied doing it. But I've never done it in the middle of a debate with someone in order to attempt to disprove their arguments (like you do, and that's the issue I have with you regarding this topic), and I've never done it regarding Boris. I've never asked Rob how tall does he think Boris is in a pic, but you've done it many times.
And "hyperbole" is based on exaggeration, and exaggeration means: "to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal". Saying that you'd actually have no problem if Boris turns out to be 6'3", then making a "hyperbole" that you'll never come back to the site out of embarrassment if turns out to be 6'3", is a direct contradiction, and not an exaggeration. It would be an exaggeration if you said that you'll actually be angry, sad, embarrassed or shocked, but saying that you'd have no problem is not an exaggeration, but a contradiction. So either you made an excuse, or you lied.
Canson said on 13/May/18
@Andrea: please show me where I âconstantlyâ run to Christian for anything. You canât. However, I can show where you constantly seek reassurance or validation from other posters and Rob on other pages however. Youâve done it on Cenaâs page, Borisâs, Wayne bradyâs, Tyler Perryâs, and Haysbertâs. But again, that only applies to you because you need all of the reassurance and support that you can get because you need self validation. Much of this has to do with you as a person and a poster as you constantly try to belittle Christian and me as well as Viper and Rampage to name a few. You know that if your estimate turned out to be incorrect, that you will look even stupider and more buffoonish than you already do, which you practically admitted when you said that you would be not Return to the site out of embarrassment if Boris turned out to be under 6â4â. But you dismiss it as hyperbole?
You want to talk about making things personal. Of course you called Christian and me boyfriends, saying I have âa deformed head and that says a lotâ, telling us that we canât estimate height (which is your opinion and we can say the same about you as well), that we arenât âgoodâ with telling Camera tricks, telling me I need to go back to school instead of being on this site. So if anything, you are a hypocrite. You point out what both of us do just to deflect the attention off of you. And you are also âplaying the ambulance cardâ here with that and telling Christian that he started it by saying that âYou just want to make Boris as tall as possibleâ So really, stop while you are behind making comments about us making things personal or playing the persecution card, or pointing out things that you do and accuse us of.
You say itâs cringeworthy that Christian and I agree on everything. It sounds to me like you have a problem with it because we agree with each other and not you. Thus, you have nobody to back you on your ridiculous and hypocritical comments you make to us. But I feel bad for you because you really do need the help a lot more than either of us does. And I can tell that that bothers you because you even brought up Viper and me connecting on Twitter below. That eats away at you doesnât it? But the better question is, if you hate Viper so much and ridicule him the way that you do, constantly bringing him up here when he hasnât even been actively posting on this page let alone this site, then why are you keeping tabs on his Twitter account? Nobody that hates someone or talks badly about someone the way you do Viper would keep up with his daily activity on Twitter. And you say that he or I have miserable or bad lives? Sounds to me like you are paranoid and think or even know people are talking about you so you go looking for an anticipating it. You wouldnât have to do that if you werenât the person that you are or didnât say or do the things that you do here. LMFAO! Thatâs funny that you even know about the activity on his account being you clearly donât like him. Sounds to me like you have the problem, not he or I or Christian. And I brought this up because you brought it up to me below like it was supposed to be an attack on my character when really you were âplaying the ambulance cardâ and it really bothered you that that happened.
So to sum you up, you are a hypocrite, you feel that you are entitled here on this site, and you get very combative and personal with people when they disagree with you. I mean why would you try to âexpose or show whatâs Christian or I do hereâ when it has nothing to do with Borisâs height? You bring up all of the things you say that we do yet you have already done them or you turn right around and do them. You tell us âjust because you believe that Boris looks 6â3â doesnât mean itâs a fact. Well, just because you think Boris looks 192 with Kobe doesnât make it a fact either. Just because you believe that Boris looks 4â taller than Cena doesnât make it a fact either. Rob has the difference in height at 3.5â here but you only âname dropâ Rob or try to exploit him in the argument with us when it is convenient for you. âEven Rob doesnât think he looks 6â3 with Kobeâ. âSo are you saying that Rob isnât a reasonable guyâ? Sounds to me like you are guilting us into changing our estimates out of fear of not disappointing Rob. Last I checked, Rob encourages different viewpoints. That is very strange that he, the owner of this site has that view but you, a wanna be owner of the site who lives his life vicariously through Celebheights only thinks that his opinion matters here.
Hmmm.. maybe thatâs why you ran to Rob to get Shredder back on the site despite Rob having made his mind up, or âsuggesting that Rob ban Viperâ as a result of what Rob said he did. You donât like Viper because he puts you in your place and does not agree with you or âbowâ down to you. Thatâs the real issue. You only like people who support you. Last but not least, you said that you would âPut pressure on Rob to downgrade other celebsâ if Boris were really 6â3 in person? That sounds to me like you âbelieveâ in your head that you âhold leverageâ over Rob LOL!!! And if youâre really telling Christian and me that we donât think Rob is reasonable, which both of us have said we respect Rob, your statements show clearly that you believe that you wield power and influence over Rob. That is sad! But that explains a lot about you.
@Andrea: please show me where I âconstantlyâ run to Christian for anything. You canât. However, I can show where you constantly seek reassurance or validation from other posters and Rob on other pages however. Youâve done it on Cenaâs page, Borisâs, Wayne bradyâs, Tyler Perryâs, and Haysbertâs. But again, that only applies to you because you need all of the reassurance and support that you can get because you need self validation. Much of this has to do with you as a person and a poster as you constantly try to belittle Christian and me as well as Viper and Rampage to name a few. You know that if your estimate turned out to be incorrect, that you will look even stupider and more buffoonish than you already do, which you practically admitted when you said that you would be not Return to the site out of embarrassment if Boris turned out to be under 6â4â. But you dismiss it as hyperbole?
You want to talk about making things personal. Of course you called Christian and me boyfriends, saying I have âa deformed head and that says a lotâ, telling us that we canât estimate height (which is your opinion and we can say the same about you as well), that we arenât âgoodâ with telling Camera tricks, telling me I need to go back to school instead of being on this site. So if anything, you are a hypocrite. You point out what both of us do just to deflect the attention off of you. And you are also âplaying the ambulance cardâ here with that and telling Christian that he started it by saying that âYou just want to make Boris as tall as possibleâ So really, stop while you are behind making comments about us making things personal or playing the persecution card, or pointing out things that you do and accuse us of.
You say itâs cringeworthy that Christian and I agree on everything. It sounds to me like you have a problem with it because we agree with each other and not you. Thus, you have nobody to back you on your ridiculous and hypocritical comments you make to us. But I feel bad for you because you really do need the help a lot more than either of us does. And I can tell that that bothers you because you even brought up Viper and me connecting on Twitter below. That eats away at you doesnât it? But the better question is, if you hate Viper so much and ridicule him the way that you do, constantly bringing him up here when he hasnât even been actively posting on this page let alone this site, then why are you keeping tabs on his Twitter account? Nobody that hates someone or talks badly about someone the way you do Viper would keep up with his daily activity on Twitter. And you say that he or I have miserable or bad lives? Sounds to me like you are paranoid and think or even know people are talking about you so you go looking for an anticipating it. You wouldnât have to do that if you werenât the person that you are or didnât say or do the things that you do here. LMFAO! Thatâs funny that you even know about the activity on his account being you clearly donât like him. Sounds to me like you have the problem, not he or I or Christian. And I brought this up because you brought it up to me below like it was supposed to be an attack on my character when really you were âplaying the ambulance cardâ and it really bothered you that that happened.
So to sum you up, you are a hypocrite, you feel that you are entitled here on this site, and you get very combative and personal with people when they disagree with you. I mean why would you try to âexpose or show whatâs Christian or I do hereâ when it has nothing to do with Borisâs height? You bring up all of the things you say that we do yet you have already done them or you turn right around and do them. You tell us âjust because you believe that Boris looks 6â3â doesnât mean itâs a fact. Well, just because you think Boris looks 192 with Kobe doesnât make it a fact either. Just because you believe that Boris looks 4â taller than Cena doesnât make it a fact either. Rob has the difference in height at 3.5â here but you only âname dropâ Rob or try to exploit him in the argument with us when it is convenient for you. âEven Rob doesnât think he looks 6â3 with Kobeâ. âSo are you saying that Rob isnât a reasonable guyâ? Sounds to me like you are guilting us into changing our estimates out of fear of not disappointing Rob. Last I checked, Rob encourages different viewpoints. That is very strange that he, the owner of this site has that view but you, a wanna be owner of the site who lives his life vicariously through Celebheights only thinks that his opinion matters here.
Hmmm.. maybe thatâs why you ran to Rob to get Shredder back on the site despite Rob having made his mind up, or âsuggesting that Rob ban Viperâ as a result of what Rob said he did. You donât like Viper because he puts you in your place and does not agree with you or âbowâ down to you. Thatâs the real issue. You only like people who support you. Last but not least, you said that you would âPut pressure on Rob to downgrade other celebsâ if Boris were really 6â3 in person? That sounds to me like you âbelieveâ in your head that you âhold leverageâ over Rob LOL!!! And if youâre really telling Christian and me that we donât think Rob is reasonable, which both of us have said we respect Rob, your statements show clearly that you believe that you wield power and influence over Rob. That is sad! But that explains a lot about you.
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Christian: your last post was priceless! It was spot on!!! Especially the last paragraph. That may be the best post that I have ever seen on this site in the entire time Iâve been here!
@Christian: your last post was priceless! It was spot on!!! Especially the last paragraph. That may be the best post that I have ever seen on this site in the entire time Iâve been here!
Canson said on 12/May/18
@Andrea: accusing you of what I do? You just accused me of running to others for reassurance. I have never once done that on this site. You have, however, done it just for Boris Khodjoe alone, on this page, Haysbertâs, Tyler Perryâs, Chi McBrideâs, etc. you even ran to Rob here to have him retrieve comments that Christian made to you IN Retaliation to your behavior against him, which have no bearing on how tall Boris is or isnât. Would you like me to go and retrieve all of that and post it here? It is very clear especially on Tyler Perryâs page as itâs within the last few comments on that page. You have several just within the last 10 there all of which are you seeking some type of opinion that Boris (not Perry) is a certain height. So I really donât know what youâre talking about. Youâre running in circles now making accusations about both of us just because you have no other defense. Maybe if you stop insulting both of us, we will do the same and just get back to a discussion about Borisâs height. That doesnât seem likely however because you expect both of us to accept your estimates and bow down to you.
As far as personal âinsultsâ against others, thatâs clearly you continuing to make them against both Christian and me, as well as Viper. Once again, Viper is not even actively posting at this stage and you are still attacking him about his multiple usernames and his estimates and even making accusations against him that he âvotesâ before he goes to bed and purposely makes Boris shorter. Funny that You didnât mention any of that when he guessed Boris as being 6â4, but reverted to attacking him when he guessed him at 6â3â. You also attacked Bennett along the way as well as Mr R and Bobby3342 for their estimates. I mean itâs all here on this page. As far as Mr. R, as soon as he mentioned that Boris was a little over 6â3â, you called his estimates and his estimating questionable to Christian.
As far as Moe, he started the argument. Iâve already pointed this out. It was on 23 March 2016. I hadnât made any attacks on him before that. It was simply retaliation. When someone calls Bobby3342 and me âshort losersâ, I donât see why we are not allowed to retaliate. But of course you do not mention that part about him starting the argument because it doesnât support your narrative. As far as Thereel, I crossed the line admittedly but because he attacked S.J.H. and was speaking nonsense about Kobeâs sexual assault charge that have nothing to do with his height. He mentioned thatâs why he believed he was downplaying his height an inch. Thatâs just ridiculous. But if you want to talk about making things personal, you did the same with Rampage and Viper in addition to both Christian and me. you know, the people who call you on your bullsh*t? So you really have no room to talk. As far as Iâm concerned, Christian, Rampage, and Viper are all stand up dudes unlike you. And i agree with what Christian said, I feel sorry for both of your parents because they failed raising you or you just didnât turn out right. Funny how you took that from what Christian just said in his last post and turned it around on me. You did the same with me just now to in regards to Moe in regards To my employment. Iâve mentioned before my job so I donât need to again especially when youâre being childish now. You cannot even come up with your own stuff. Youâve used what Christian or I have said on several different occasions now and turned it around on both of us.
Do you really want to talk about spamming this site? You went in late December here on this page, and retrieved old quotes from arguments Iâve had with others. They were not the first comments there on either page either. You really had to look for them and you did so just to try to attack me. It had nothing to do with the discussion about Borisâs height. In addition, you began attacking me on Cenaâs page once again because I do not agree with you or you donât agree with me. I had not even mentioned your name there. You just jumped in for no reason knowing it was going to lead to another never ending argument. So that is what you call spamming. But That is the exact same thing that you are accusing me of. I wasnât even paying you any mind prior to that so if anything you spammed this page and Cenaâs with needless arguments just because you are angry that Christian and I donât âbow down to youâ. You act as if youâre entitled and the entire community is supposed to bow down to you.
âYouâre going to put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade people if Boris doesnât turn out 6â4â. Since When did Rob retire and make you the owner of Celebheights? That is by far the saddest comment Iâve seen here on this site. You think that Rob is supposed to listen to you? Why? You are no different than any other poster here?
Do you really want to go there with prostituting? You not only insulted Christian and me both repeatedly telling us that we âhave no clue about this or thatâ or are âunable to accurately assess heightsâ and even called us âBoyfriendsâ. So yes the prostituting was retaliation to you doing all of that. Do you think âBoyfriendsâ is not derogatory? It sounds so to me that you were trying to offend us with that?
So really Andrea, this is not getting old. This is ancient.Just cut the crap. Every time you make an accusation against us, especially when itâs false or hypocritical, we just call you on it. Itâs even worse that what you accuse both of us of, you do yourself
@Andrea: accusing you of what I do? You just accused me of running to others for reassurance. I have never once done that on this site. You have, however, done it just for Boris Khodjoe alone, on this page, Haysbertâs, Tyler Perryâs, Chi McBrideâs, etc. you even ran to Rob here to have him retrieve comments that Christian made to you IN Retaliation to your behavior against him, which have no bearing on how tall Boris is or isnât. Would you like me to go and retrieve all of that and post it here? It is very clear especially on Tyler Perryâs page as itâs within the last few comments on that page. You have several just within the last 10 there all of which are you seeking some type of opinion that Boris (not Perry) is a certain height. So I really donât know what youâre talking about. Youâre running in circles now making accusations about both of us just because you have no other defense. Maybe if you stop insulting both of us, we will do the same and just get back to a discussion about Borisâs height. That doesnât seem likely however because you expect both of us to accept your estimates and bow down to you.
As far as personal âinsultsâ against others, thatâs clearly you continuing to make them against both Christian and me, as well as Viper. Once again, Viper is not even actively posting at this stage and you are still attacking him about his multiple usernames and his estimates and even making accusations against him that he âvotesâ before he goes to bed and purposely makes Boris shorter. Funny that You didnât mention any of that when he guessed Boris as being 6â4, but reverted to attacking him when he guessed him at 6â3â. You also attacked Bennett along the way as well as Mr R and Bobby3342 for their estimates. I mean itâs all here on this page. As far as Mr. R, as soon as he mentioned that Boris was a little over 6â3â, you called his estimates and his estimating questionable to Christian.
As far as Moe, he started the argument. Iâve already pointed this out. It was on 23 March 2016. I hadnât made any attacks on him before that. It was simply retaliation. When someone calls Bobby3342 and me âshort losersâ, I donât see why we are not allowed to retaliate. But of course you do not mention that part about him starting the argument because it doesnât support your narrative. As far as Thereel, I crossed the line admittedly but because he attacked S.J.H. and was speaking nonsense about Kobeâs sexual assault charge that have nothing to do with his height. He mentioned thatâs why he believed he was downplaying his height an inch. Thatâs just ridiculous. But if you want to talk about making things personal, you did the same with Rampage and Viper in addition to both Christian and me. you know, the people who call you on your bullsh*t? So you really have no room to talk. As far as Iâm concerned, Christian, Rampage, and Viper are all stand up dudes unlike you. And i agree with what Christian said, I feel sorry for both of your parents because they failed raising you or you just didnât turn out right. Funny how you took that from what Christian just said in his last post and turned it around on me. You did the same with me just now to in regards to Moe in regards To my employment. Iâve mentioned before my job so I donât need to again especially when youâre being childish now. You cannot even come up with your own stuff. Youâve used what Christian or I have said on several different occasions now and turned it around on both of us.
Do you really want to talk about spamming this site? You went in late December here on this page, and retrieved old quotes from arguments Iâve had with others. They were not the first comments there on either page either. You really had to look for them and you did so just to try to attack me. It had nothing to do with the discussion about Borisâs height. In addition, you began attacking me on Cenaâs page once again because I do not agree with you or you donât agree with me. I had not even mentioned your name there. You just jumped in for no reason knowing it was going to lead to another never ending argument. So that is what you call spamming. But That is the exact same thing that you are accusing me of. I wasnât even paying you any mind prior to that so if anything you spammed this page and Cenaâs with needless arguments just because you are angry that Christian and I donât âbow down to youâ. You act as if youâre entitled and the entire community is supposed to bow down to you.
âYouâre going to put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade people if Boris doesnât turn out 6â4â. Since When did Rob retire and make you the owner of Celebheights? That is by far the saddest comment Iâve seen here on this site. You think that Rob is supposed to listen to you? Why? You are no different than any other poster here?
Do you really want to go there with prostituting? You not only insulted Christian and me both repeatedly telling us that we âhave no clue about this or thatâ or are âunable to accurately assess heightsâ and even called us âBoyfriendsâ. So yes the prostituting was retaliation to you doing all of that. Do you think âBoyfriendsâ is not derogatory? It sounds so to me that you were trying to offend us with that?
So really Andrea, this is not getting old. This is ancient.Just cut the crap. Every time you make an accusation against us, especially when itâs false or hypocritical, we just call you on it. Itâs even worse that what you accuse both of us of, you do yourself
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 12/May/18
@Andrea
Your pic with Boris and Cam is at a bad angle because it's taken upwards instead of straight ahead, unlike mine.
And as I said, you accused me of creating multiple usernames indirectly and subtly. Otherwise you wouldn't have put quotations around the word "people", indicating that I, Canson, and the other people you mentioned created multiple usernames and voted. And yes, I voted 6'3" once but I didn't hide behind any fake names and voted. And one 6'3" vote out of 41 votes is gonna barely affect the Average Guess. I'm not misunderstanding anything here.
@Andrea
Your pic with Boris and Cam is at a bad angle because it's taken upwards instead of straight ahead, unlike mine.
And as I said, you accused me of creating multiple usernames indirectly and subtly. Otherwise you wouldn't have put quotations around the word "people", indicating that I, Canson, and the other people you mentioned created multiple usernames and voted. And yes, I voted 6'3" once but I didn't hide behind any fake names and voted. And one 6'3" vote out of 41 votes is gonna barely affect the Average Guess. I'm not misunderstanding anything here.
Canson said on 11/May/18
This is another picture with Boris and 6â1â Barry Bonds. The pic isnât perfect nor are many of the ones here but thatâs not a 3â difference regardless
Click Here
This is another picture with Boris and 6â1â Barry Bonds. The pic isnât perfect nor are many of the ones here but thatâs not a 3â difference regardless
Click Here
Canson said on 11/May/18
@Christian: well said! With my head, I have a crown on the top of it that is very pointed like Charles Barkleyâs. If that portion is raised, I would be a tad taller. This is when I tilt my chin down a touch and the top of it raises. The only reason I could tell is I have a light fixture in my place that is 6â6.5ish I believe and I was in boots one morning when I first woke up and the crown grazed it whereas if my head is lined up properly I donât touch it even in the boots first thing out of bed when I measure 195.7-.8 barefoot. The boots probably put me up near the mark but if my head is tilted down a tad maybe higher. I have long neck though and itâs not as sturdy as it should be given broad shoulders and the rest of the muscle I have throughout my body
@Christian: well said! With my head, I have a crown on the top of it that is very pointed like Charles Barkleyâs. If that portion is raised, I would be a tad taller. This is when I tilt my chin down a touch and the top of it raises. The only reason I could tell is I have a light fixture in my place that is 6â6.5ish I believe and I was in boots one morning when I first woke up and the crown grazed it whereas if my head is lined up properly I donât touch it even in the boots first thing out of bed when I measure 195.7-.8 barefoot. The boots probably put me up near the mark but if my head is tilted down a tad maybe higher. I have long neck though and itâs not as sturdy as it should be given broad shoulders and the rest of the muscle I have throughout my body
Andrea said on 11/May/18
The reason why I'm "basically regurgitating the same talking points I made towards Canson, to you" is because you two are not much different. And that must be the reason why you get along so well with each other. And the fact that Rob measured many shoes must mean something. Sure, he may be wrong, but you act as if he IS wrong when you say that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe. If anything, you have a lot more chance of being wrong than him for the reasons I have already stated. The same goes for Boris looking 6'3 in many pics. That is just your opinion, at the very most, but you keep speaking of it as if it was a fact and you even accuse me of not acknowledging that, just because I don't agree with you.
As for Canson, he constantly runs to you. Not only on this page. And again, I don't know why you are so obsessed about that, but what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. Plus, since you compare that with the cringeworthy relationship you have with Canson, see how many times I've mentioned Rob compared to the number of times Canson mentioned you...
As for measuring taller when you tilt your head down, I've never said that it is impossible, but I said that it is impossible UNLESS you have a deformed head, so, once again, learn to read. You're right. Maybe Canson has a deformed head, who knows? That could certainly explain a lot of things. The point is, though, that not only he said that, but he also said that Boris looked taller than he is in a certain pic just because he was tilting his head down, which is BS.
And yeah. As I said, I'd have no problem with Boris being as low as 6'3. At all. I'd have a problem with every other celebrity he has appeared with, though, because that would mean that they are nowhere near their listings. It is not that hard to understand, although everything suddenly becomes a contradiction (or an excuse) whenever you don't understand something (and that happens very often, I'm wondering why). Btw, you really impressed me with "semantics". Where did you get it from? From your beloved "Merriam Webster dictionary"? đ
The reason why I'm "basically regurgitating the same talking points I made towards Canson, to you" is because you two are not much different. And that must be the reason why you get along so well with each other. And the fact that Rob measured many shoes must mean something. Sure, he may be wrong, but you act as if he IS wrong when you say that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe. If anything, you have a lot more chance of being wrong than him for the reasons I have already stated. The same goes for Boris looking 6'3 in many pics. That is just your opinion, at the very most, but you keep speaking of it as if it was a fact and you even accuse me of not acknowledging that, just because I don't agree with you.
As for Canson, he constantly runs to you. Not only on this page. And again, I don't know why you are so obsessed about that, but what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. Plus, since you compare that with the cringeworthy relationship you have with Canson, see how many times I've mentioned Rob compared to the number of times Canson mentioned you...
As for measuring taller when you tilt your head down, I've never said that it is impossible, but I said that it is impossible UNLESS you have a deformed head, so, once again, learn to read. You're right. Maybe Canson has a deformed head, who knows? That could certainly explain a lot of things. The point is, though, that not only he said that, but he also said that Boris looked taller than he is in a certain pic just because he was tilting his head down, which is BS.
And yeah. As I said, I'd have no problem with Boris being as low as 6'3. At all. I'd have a problem with every other celebrity he has appeared with, though, because that would mean that they are nowhere near their listings. It is not that hard to understand, although everything suddenly becomes a contradiction (or an excuse) whenever you don't understand something (and that happens very often, I'm wondering why). Btw, you really impressed me with "semantics". Where did you get it from? From your beloved "Merriam Webster dictionary"? đ
Andrea said on 11/May/18
Funny (and very cringeworthy) how you keep accusing me of every single thing you're clearly guilty of, Canson. I don't know if you do it on purpose or if you really believe in what you say. I really hope, for you, that it's the former case, otherwise your brain deficiencies are even worse than what I thought, LOL. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if even those brilliant and personal insults you pointed at those people that disagreed with you, they actually have something to do with you and your life alone. You probably really are an unemployed good-for-nothing loser (which is what you accused moe of), which would certainly explain why you have so much free time to spend spamming this site with your BSs, you probably really need to regularly visit a therapist (which is what you told TheReel to do), although I suggest you to find a new one because there are obviously still no results, you or someone in your family probably really had to prostitute themselves (which is what you accused me of), etc.
Funny (and very cringeworthy) how you keep accusing me of every single thing you're clearly guilty of, Canson. I don't know if you do it on purpose or if you really believe in what you say. I really hope, for you, that it's the former case, otherwise your brain deficiencies are even worse than what I thought, LOL. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if even those brilliant and personal insults you pointed at those people that disagreed with you, they actually have something to do with you and your life alone. You probably really are an unemployed good-for-nothing loser (which is what you accused moe of), which would certainly explain why you have so much free time to spend spamming this site with your BSs, you probably really need to regularly visit a therapist (which is what you told TheReel to do), although I suggest you to find a new one because there are obviously still no results, you or someone in your family probably really had to prostitute themselves (which is what you accused me of), etc.
Canson said on 11/May/18
I did vote him at or below 6â3â as well. I used to think below but now I give him a full 6â3
I did vote him at or below 6â3â as well. I used to think below but now I give him a full 6â3
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 11/May/18
@Andrea
You're just basically regurgitating the same talking points you made towards Canson, to me. Again, please provide statistics that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than me or Canson. And making up fake numbers like when Rob has a 50% chance of being wrong, I have 90%, and saying that Rob measured many kinds of footwear and uploaded videos, don't prove anything. Btw, I'm not disparaging Rob in any way, IMO he's a great height guesser. Also, I'm not biased. If I really was, I would've purposefully exaggerated or diminished the height differences in pics in order to make Boris 6'3". But I don't do that. I'm fully aware that Boris looks 6'4" in many pics. But there are many pics where he looks 6'3" as well. But I don't see you ever acknowledging that. Instead, you always say that the lowest Boris can look is 192cm, which is far from the truth. And you even accused celebs of wearing lifts or standing on their tip toes when Boris looked under 6'4". So if anyone's biased, it's you.
And when the heck did Canson ever run to me for anything? Sure, he's defended me many times throughout this discussion as well as others because he agrees with a lot of my estimates, but that's not the same as you asking Rob how tall someone is or the height differences between people, which you've done many times. Canson has never done that to me.
And how do you know that Canson doesn't measure taller when he tilts down his head? Have you ever met him and seen him measure in person? Everyone has different head shapes and structures. Just because you don't measure taller when you tilt your head, it doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. I tried it myself, and I didn't measure any taller either, but I don't go around saying Canson's wrong, because I realize that maybe he has a different head shape and structure than mine. In case you haven't noticed it already, the world doesn't revolve around you, Andrea.
And even if you said "never come back" and not "run away", you basically meant the same thing. You're using semantics. Also, you're making excuses by dismissing it as a hyperbole? Well I can't say I'm surprised. And you can't say that you won't have a problem with it if Rob meets Boris and lists him as 6'3", then turn around and pressure Rob to drastically downgrade every celeb both he and Boris stood along with. You'll obviously have a problem with it if you're gonna pressure Rob to do that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so full of contradictions like you, both online and in real life.
@Andrea
You're just basically regurgitating the same talking points you made towards Canson, to me. Again, please provide statistics that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than me or Canson. And making up fake numbers like when Rob has a 50% chance of being wrong, I have 90%, and saying that Rob measured many kinds of footwear and uploaded videos, don't prove anything. Btw, I'm not disparaging Rob in any way, IMO he's a great height guesser. Also, I'm not biased. If I really was, I would've purposefully exaggerated or diminished the height differences in pics in order to make Boris 6'3". But I don't do that. I'm fully aware that Boris looks 6'4" in many pics. But there are many pics where he looks 6'3" as well. But I don't see you ever acknowledging that. Instead, you always say that the lowest Boris can look is 192cm, which is far from the truth. And you even accused celebs of wearing lifts or standing on their tip toes when Boris looked under 6'4". So if anyone's biased, it's you.
And when the heck did Canson ever run to me for anything? Sure, he's defended me many times throughout this discussion as well as others because he agrees with a lot of my estimates, but that's not the same as you asking Rob how tall someone is or the height differences between people, which you've done many times. Canson has never done that to me.
And how do you know that Canson doesn't measure taller when he tilts down his head? Have you ever met him and seen him measure in person? Everyone has different head shapes and structures. Just because you don't measure taller when you tilt your head, it doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. I tried it myself, and I didn't measure any taller either, but I don't go around saying Canson's wrong, because I realize that maybe he has a different head shape and structure than mine. In case you haven't noticed it already, the world doesn't revolve around you, Andrea.
And even if you said "never come back" and not "run away", you basically meant the same thing. You're using semantics. Also, you're making excuses by dismissing it as a hyperbole? Well I can't say I'm surprised. And you can't say that you won't have a problem with it if Rob meets Boris and lists him as 6'3", then turn around and pressure Rob to drastically downgrade every celeb both he and Boris stood along with. You'll obviously have a problem with it if you're gonna pressure Rob to do that. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so full of contradictions like you, both online and in real life.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
How the hell did you post "a much better, more accurate pic" than I did, Christian? LOL As I said, you did post a picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera than Boris, in order to make Boris appear shorter than he is. And exactly as I said, although you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you keep doing there, when you say that it is a bad angle, when there's really nothing bad about it. Sure, you cannot see their footwear (which is something I remarked when I first posted the picture) and the ground level, but again, you can see the footwear they're wearing from the other photos of the event, which hadn't been published yet when I posted the picture, and the ground level... Well, it's taken in the same place. Plus, it's clearly an indoor place, so even if there weren't other pics of them together, you could certainly tell the ground is very likely flat.
And no, for the last time, I didn't accuse you and Canson of submitting multiple low votes. Not even indirectly. Come on, read it again. It's not that hard:
"I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ"
As I said, my accusations were levelled against one poster alone. And that's viper, in case you still haven't figured it out (and you probably haven't, considering how stupid you seem to be). And all I said was that it would be interesting to see who really guessed Boris at 6'3 (or lower), apart from viper with his countless number of "fake names/accounts" (which are in fact "free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc."), you and Canson. The only reason why I mentioned you and Canson is because I was sure that you both voted him at 6'3 or under. And in fact, you did, by your own admission. So yeah, you did misunderstand and jump to conclusions AGAIN.
How the hell did you post "a much better, more accurate pic" than I did, Christian? LOL As I said, you did post a picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera than Boris, in order to make Boris appear shorter than he is. And exactly as I said, although you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you keep doing there, when you say that it is a bad angle, when there's really nothing bad about it. Sure, you cannot see their footwear (which is something I remarked when I first posted the picture) and the ground level, but again, you can see the footwear they're wearing from the other photos of the event, which hadn't been published yet when I posted the picture, and the ground level... Well, it's taken in the same place. Plus, it's clearly an indoor place, so even if there weren't other pics of them together, you could certainly tell the ground is very likely flat.
And no, for the last time, I didn't accuse you and Canson of submitting multiple low votes. Not even indirectly. Come on, read it again. It's not that hard:
"I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ"
As I said, my accusations were levelled against one poster alone. And that's viper, in case you still haven't figured it out (and you probably haven't, considering how stupid you seem to be). And all I said was that it would be interesting to see who really guessed Boris at 6'3 (or lower), apart from viper with his countless number of "fake names/accounts" (which are in fact "free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc."), you and Canson. The only reason why I mentioned you and Canson is because I was sure that you both voted him at 6'3 or under. And in fact, you did, by your own admission. So yeah, you did misunderstand and jump to conclusions AGAIN.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: âBecause you and Canson say he had a footwear advantage doesnât make it a factâ.
Youâre absolutely right Andrea because anyone can be wrong. So then if thatâs the case, why donât you stop telling us âBoris is only 3cm shorter than kobe, not 1.5-2â. Donât forget Boris is closer to the camera. Or that Cena has better posture than Boris etc. something is only a fact when it comes out of your mouth but when Christian or I say it, itâs âspeculationâ or our opinions. This just magnified your hypocrisy here.
@Andrea: âBecause you and Canson say he had a footwear advantage doesnât make it a factâ.
Youâre absolutely right Andrea because anyone can be wrong. So then if thatâs the case, why donât you stop telling us âBoris is only 3cm shorter than kobe, not 1.5-2â. Donât forget Boris is closer to the camera. Or that Cena has better posture than Boris etc. something is only a fact when it comes out of your mouth but when Christian or I say it, itâs âspeculationâ or our opinions. This just magnified your hypocrisy here.
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: do you mean that you would ask Rob to downgrade a lot of people? And if he says no then leave him alone about it. what does âI would put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade meanâ? Again, this is not your site. Donât get why you feel so âentitledâ. You donât see anyone else here making those ridiculous statement like you hold leverage on Rob or something
@Andrea: do you mean that you would ask Rob to downgrade a lot of people? And if he says no then leave him alone about it. what does âI would put a lot of pressure on Rob to downgrade meanâ? Again, this is not your site. Donât get why you feel so âentitledâ. You donât see anyone else here making those ridiculous statement like you hold leverage on Rob or something
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Andrea: no you did not. You continued to attack VIPER on both this page and Merrimanâs. Would you like me to go and retrieve the entire conversation? Thatâs both conversations here and on Shawne Merrimanâs page. And below, you clearly started the argument with him by bashing him. Oh and all of the bashing didnât begin until after he said that Boris (to him) was 6â3â. Prior to that, you were saying âwell Even Viper who downgrades everyone says Boris looks 6â4â. As soon as that changed, and he revised his estimate, you have now changed your tune and began to go in on him too. If you donât believe me, go back to October of last year. Otherwise, I will gladly retrieve where it began and how you went in on him for no reason. He, wisely, didnât even respond back to you for at least a few weeks either. I can retrieve like you say, Since you love to try to think you are throwing your weight around âthreateningâ Christian and I with that all of the time. Only problem is you have no weight to throw around and nothing to even show for or to even think youâre entitled. You act like this is your site or like you have some type of entitlement to it or some type of stake in ownership. You donât. You represent 1% of the posters here and your opinion is your opinion but that does not mean we all have to bow down to you just because Rob has met a celeb or two and changed his estimate to what you had them before he met them. By the way, Viper clearly stopped responding to you as he even knows that you are worthless. You act like a spoiled entitled child like you have some type of birthright or stake in this site when you mean jacksh*t. Nobody cares about you. Btw when Christian was gone I didnât need anyone to defend me because I can clearly do it myself. Did you mean defend myself against you? That isnât very hard. I just point out your hypocrisy as it runs rampant on this page and on this site. Nobody here takes you seriously.
And show me who I ran to please. As for you, you did so on Haysbertâs page, Chi McBrideâs page, and on this page. You clearly asked other posters does he not look this with Boris? Would you like me to retrieve these too? And itâs funny because you are the one that sits here and brags about the fact that âhistoricalâ posts now exist. That also means your bullsh*t is as well. You know the quotes that you make and the actions you take that you accuse Christian and me of hoping that neither of us will go and retrieve it. You know the stuff that you figure that nobody sees. How you like to run to Rob for reassurance every so often. And no you never saw me do that or even solicit other posters like you did, so donât accuse me of that. You are seriously a waste of time to even talk to. Viper did the right thing ignoring you before and it seems I should have because you have again begun another endless argument just because I donât agree with you on your assessment with Boris. Thatâs what it boils down to. It doesnât matter what Christian or I post, as long as it is not in agreement with your views you have something negative to say in response. Iâm done responding to you because it obviously gets us nowhere. All we are doing is flooding the page with useless comments and it appears to me that you not only like to start arguments with people who donât agree with you here but also you must get the last word in. Stuff you accuse me of that you are doing. If you want to accuse me of something, you need not have done or currently do the same thing. Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite which you are the definition of.
@Andrea: no you did not. You continued to attack VIPER on both this page and Merrimanâs. Would you like me to go and retrieve the entire conversation? Thatâs both conversations here and on Shawne Merrimanâs page. And below, you clearly started the argument with him by bashing him. Oh and all of the bashing didnât begin until after he said that Boris (to him) was 6â3â. Prior to that, you were saying âwell Even Viper who downgrades everyone says Boris looks 6â4â. As soon as that changed, and he revised his estimate, you have now changed your tune and began to go in on him too. If you donât believe me, go back to October of last year. Otherwise, I will gladly retrieve where it began and how you went in on him for no reason. He, wisely, didnât even respond back to you for at least a few weeks either. I can retrieve like you say, Since you love to try to think you are throwing your weight around âthreateningâ Christian and I with that all of the time. Only problem is you have no weight to throw around and nothing to even show for or to even think youâre entitled. You act like this is your site or like you have some type of entitlement to it or some type of stake in ownership. You donât. You represent 1% of the posters here and your opinion is your opinion but that does not mean we all have to bow down to you just because Rob has met a celeb or two and changed his estimate to what you had them before he met them. By the way, Viper clearly stopped responding to you as he even knows that you are worthless. You act like a spoiled entitled child like you have some type of birthright or stake in this site when you mean jacksh*t. Nobody cares about you. Btw when Christian was gone I didnât need anyone to defend me because I can clearly do it myself. Did you mean defend myself against you? That isnât very hard. I just point out your hypocrisy as it runs rampant on this page and on this site. Nobody here takes you seriously.
And show me who I ran to please. As for you, you did so on Haysbertâs page, Chi McBrideâs page, and on this page. You clearly asked other posters does he not look this with Boris? Would you like me to retrieve these too? And itâs funny because you are the one that sits here and brags about the fact that âhistoricalâ posts now exist. That also means your bullsh*t is as well. You know the quotes that you make and the actions you take that you accuse Christian and me of hoping that neither of us will go and retrieve it. You know the stuff that you figure that nobody sees. How you like to run to Rob for reassurance every so often. And no you never saw me do that or even solicit other posters like you did, so donât accuse me of that. You are seriously a waste of time to even talk to. Viper did the right thing ignoring you before and it seems I should have because you have again begun another endless argument just because I donât agree with you on your assessment with Boris. Thatâs what it boils down to. It doesnât matter what Christian or I post, as long as it is not in agreement with your views you have something negative to say in response. Iâm done responding to you because it obviously gets us nowhere. All we are doing is flooding the page with useless comments and it appears to me that you not only like to start arguments with people who donât agree with you here but also you must get the last word in. Stuff you accuse me of that you are doing. If you want to accuse me of something, you need not have done or currently do the same thing. Otherwise, that makes you a hypocrite which you are the definition of.
Andrea said on 10/May/18
I've never said that just because Rob said that Boris' shoes aren't much different than Kobe's makes it a fact, Christian. Learn to read, ffs, and stop putting words in my mouth. I said that just because you and Canson keep saying that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe doesn't make it a fact, which is a bit different. And that's because you keep talking about it as if it was fact, which is NOT. And again, although you're certainly entitled to say the same thing about Rob, there's a big difference between you and Rob because 1) Rob objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you and 2) he is not biased, unlike you. So if Rob has say a 50% chance of being wrong, you have 90%+ chance of being wrong. And the reason why I say that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you is because he has measured many kind of them, and he even uploaded many videos to show how much they actually give, when he still had the Sneakers' page. It's not that hard to understand (well at least for a guy with an average IQ)...
I've never said that just because Rob said that Boris' shoes aren't much different than Kobe's makes it a fact, Christian. Learn to read, ffs, and stop putting words in my mouth. I said that just because you and Canson keep saying that Boris has a clear footwear advantage over Kobe doesn't make it a fact, which is a bit different. And that's because you keep talking about it as if it was fact, which is NOT. And again, although you're certainly entitled to say the same thing about Rob, there's a big difference between you and Rob because 1) Rob objectively has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you and 2) he is not biased, unlike you. So if Rob has say a 50% chance of being wrong, you have 90%+ chance of being wrong. And the reason why I say that Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than you is because he has measured many kind of them, and he even uploaded many videos to show how much they actually give, when he still had the Sneakers' page. It's not that hard to understand (well at least for a guy with an average IQ)...
Canson said on 10/May/18
@Christian: Well said! And thatâs correct. Rob is a great guy and I value his opinions. But thatâs how Andrea is. If what Rob says supports his narrative then he will include âWell even Rob saysâ, but bad he not said that, it wouldâve just been âWell thatâs your opinionâ or if Andrea knew it for a fact, he would simply ignore the picture altogether and not mention it which is what he does with all pics where Boris looks under 6â4. You notice how he doesnât mention the one about Barkley at all? He only says well with Kobe he can look 192cm?
@Christian: Well said! And thatâs correct. Rob is a great guy and I value his opinions. But thatâs how Andrea is. If what Rob says supports his narrative then he will include âWell even Rob saysâ, but bad he not said that, it wouldâve just been âWell thatâs your opinionâ or if Andrea knew it for a fact, he would simply ignore the picture altogether and not mention it which is what he does with all pics where Boris looks under 6â4. You notice how he doesnât mention the one about Barkley at all? He only says well with Kobe he can look 192cm?
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 9/May/18
@Andrea
Like I said, that pic was the most accurate one I could find, and it's certainly better than yours. Yours didn't show footwear and ground level, while mine did. Also yours was taken from a bad angle, while mine was taken straight ahead. The only thing in my pic was that Cam was standing a bit closer to the camera than Boris, giving Cam some advantage. But his footwear, posture and stance disadvantages trump over his camera advantage, giving him an overall disadvantage over Boris.
It's funny how I'm supposedly the one who's bad at gauging height differences, camera angles, footwear etc., yet I posted a much better, more accurate pic than you did.
And yes you did accuse Canson and I of submitting multiple low votes. Pay attention to what you wrote:
" I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ"
You didn't say directly that Canson and I did it, but you said it indirectly. Also, you put quotation marks around the word "people", so basically you're accusing us of creating fake names in order to submit multiple votes, which I didn't do btw. I can't speak for Canson, but I doubt he would do such a thing either. I didn't "misunderstand" or "jump to conclusions", I know exactly what you're doing. Also, be original and make your own sentence structures instead of stealing mine. And this isn't the first time you did this. But I don't expect anything good out of you because you've already shown your stupidity a long time ago.
@Andrea
Like I said, that pic was the most accurate one I could find, and it's certainly better than yours. Yours didn't show footwear and ground level, while mine did. Also yours was taken from a bad angle, while mine was taken straight ahead. The only thing in my pic was that Cam was standing a bit closer to the camera than Boris, giving Cam some advantage. But his footwear, posture and stance disadvantages trump over his camera advantage, giving him an overall disadvantage over Boris.
It's funny how I'm supposedly the one who's bad at gauging height differences, camera angles, footwear etc., yet I posted a much better, more accurate pic than you did.
And yes you did accuse Canson and I of submitting multiple low votes. Pay attention to what you wrote:
" I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ"
You didn't say directly that Canson and I did it, but you said it indirectly. Also, you put quotation marks around the word "people", so basically you're accusing us of creating fake names in order to submit multiple votes, which I didn't do btw. I can't speak for Canson, but I doubt he would do such a thing either. I didn't "misunderstand" or "jump to conclusions", I know exactly what you're doing. Also, be original and make your own sentence structures instead of stealing mine. And this isn't the first time you did this. But I don't expect anything good out of you because you've already shown your stupidity a long time ago.
Andrea said on 9/May/18
That's exactly what you do, Canson. Running to people. You did it with Christian, throughout all this discussion, and then with a very questionable poster like viper, when Christian was away and couldn't defend you. And no, Rob never said that "he doesnât know about the footwear". I'll copy and paste what he said to refresh your memory: "Footwear...I know Kobe has under inch, but the style Boris has isn't much different than what converse are designed like. I doubt there is much between their sneakers.". Of course he doesn't say he's 100% sure about that because he's not an arrogant c*nt like you are. And who cares if you wore canvas shoes. First of all, are Boris' shoes the same model you wore? And second of all, you are the same guy who says that if you tilt your head down, you're going to measure taller, which is scientifically impossible unless you have a deformed head, so I'd take what you say with a large pinch of salt.
As for the Average Guess, I have never submitted a single vote in my life because I really don't believe in that for the reasons I have already stated and to me it means nothing, so I don't see why I should secretly submit 6'4+ votes, but you're free to believe so. I don't really care. Though if I ever decided to do something like that you can be sure that 1) the Average Guess would be exactly as much as I want it to be and 2) I certainly wouldn't be so stupid to submit one vote after another to make it increase as fast as possible and get busted by Rob, unlike someone else. đ
As for viper (not that I'm really changing the subject), if anything, I am the one who decided to stop talking and ignoring (both of) you. And I certainly am not the one who adds people on Twitter to keep talking behind other people's backs, which is something that only sad people with a sad life would do. You're right about one thing, though. viper hasn't been that active recently. I'm really wondering why. đ Btw, have you noticed that the number of votes stopped increasing since his departure? đ˛ That being said, do not despair. I'm sure he will come back sooner or later, with one of his many fantasy names, unless he already has of course...
As for me saying that if Boris ever turned to be as low as 6'3, I would never come back on here on here out of the embarassment, and not "Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment" (the quotation marks are used to quote someone's exact words, so at least make sure that I really said something like that before using them, mind you)... I don't know why you're so obsessed about that, but that's just a figure of speech. A hyperbole, to be exact. But again, I don't expect an ignorant guy like you to even know what I'm talking about. And the reason why I said something like that is because I have certainly seen enough to rule out 6'3... BUT if Rob ever met him and said that he isn't over 6'3, I would have no problem with it. Although I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to drastically downgrade every celebrity that appeared with Boris because that would mean that they are nowhere near their current listings, and to review the listings of those people that he has met because that would mean that he has overestimated them by a good amount too. đ
That's exactly what you do, Canson. Running to people. You did it with Christian, throughout all this discussion, and then with a very questionable poster like viper, when Christian was away and couldn't defend you. And no, Rob never said that "he doesnât know about the footwear". I'll copy and paste what he said to refresh your memory: "Footwear...I know Kobe has under inch, but the style Boris has isn't much different than what converse are designed like. I doubt there is much between their sneakers.". Of course he doesn't say he's 100% sure about that because he's not an arrogant c*nt like you are. And who cares if you wore canvas shoes. First of all, are Boris' shoes the same model you wore? And second of all, you are the same guy who says that if you tilt your head down, you're going to measure taller, which is scientifically impossible unless you have a deformed head, so I'd take what you say with a large pinch of salt.
As for the Average Guess, I have never submitted a single vote in my life because I really don't believe in that for the reasons I have already stated and to me it means nothing, so I don't see why I should secretly submit 6'4+ votes, but you're free to believe so. I don't really care. Though if I ever decided to do something like that you can be sure that 1) the Average Guess would be exactly as much as I want it to be and 2) I certainly wouldn't be so stupid to submit one vote after another to make it increase as fast as possible and get busted by Rob, unlike someone else. đ
As for viper (not that I'm really changing the subject), if anything, I am the one who decided to stop talking and ignoring (both of) you. And I certainly am not the one who adds people on Twitter to keep talking behind other people's backs, which is something that only sad people with a sad life would do. You're right about one thing, though. viper hasn't been that active recently. I'm really wondering why. đ Btw, have you noticed that the number of votes stopped increasing since his departure? đ˛ That being said, do not despair. I'm sure he will come back sooner or later, with one of his many fantasy names, unless he already has of course...
As for me saying that if Boris ever turned to be as low as 6'3, I would never come back on here on here out of the embarassment, and not "Run away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointment" (the quotation marks are used to quote someone's exact words, so at least make sure that I really said something like that before using them, mind you)... I don't know why you're so obsessed about that, but that's just a figure of speech. A hyperbole, to be exact. But again, I don't expect an ignorant guy like you to even know what I'm talking about. And the reason why I said something like that is because I have certainly seen enough to rule out 6'3... BUT if Rob ever met him and said that he isn't over 6'3, I would have no problem with it. Although I would put a lot of pressure on Rob to drastically downgrade every celebrity that appeared with Boris because that would mean that they are nowhere near their current listings, and to review the listings of those people that he has met because that would mean that he has overestimated them by a good amount too. đ
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/May/18
@Andrea
Just because Rob says that Boris didn't have much footwear advantage over Kobe, it doesn't make it true. Also, how do you know if Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than Canson? Do you have any statistics to prove it? (which is impossible) Or are you just saying that because Rob's the owner of this site? He's not a perfect height-god like you describe him to be. For example, you should know first hand that he isn't because you "challenged" Rob's initial 6'2.75" lisiting for David Morrissey as 6'2", and he eventually lowered his listing to 6'2", especially after meeting him in person. And you've also admitted to have disagreed with several of Rob's listings for celebs as well and they've turned out to be in your favor when Rob met them. But all of a sudden, because Rob agrees with you about the footwear difference between Boris and Kobe, you have this "Well Rob agrees with me so it must be automatically true" mindset. I'm sure Rob doesn't like it when people use him to push their narrative. That's exactly what you're doing right now.
And estimating shoe differences are harder than heights because some shoes give more or less height than it looks on the outside. I have a pair of sneakers that looks as if it gives about 1.25" but is acutally only .75", a pair of casuals that looks .5" but actually gives 7/8", and a pair of runners that looks 1" but gives .75"
Editor Rob
@Andrea
Just because Rob says that Boris didn't have much footwear advantage over Kobe, it doesn't make it true. Also, how do you know if Rob has a lot more knowledge about footwear than Canson? Do you have any statistics to prove it? (which is impossible) Or are you just saying that because Rob's the owner of this site? He's not a perfect height-god like you describe him to be. For example, you should know first hand that he isn't because you "challenged" Rob's initial 6'2.75" lisiting for David Morrissey as 6'2", and he eventually lowered his listing to 6'2", especially after meeting him in person. And you've also admitted to have disagreed with several of Rob's listings for celebs as well and they've turned out to be in your favor when Rob met them. But all of a sudden, because Rob agrees with you about the footwear difference between Boris and Kobe, you have this "Well Rob agrees with me so it must be automatically true" mindset. I'm sure Rob doesn't like it when people use him to push their narrative. That's exactly what you're doing right now.
And estimating shoe differences are harder than heights because some shoes give more or less height than it looks on the outside. I have a pair of sneakers that looks as if it gives about 1.25" but is acutally only .75", a pair of casuals that looks .5" but actually gives 7/8", and a pair of runners that looks 1" but gives .75"
Editor RobI used to have the Sneakers page on here, and have looked at a lot of of them over the years, although there is always room for error in estimates if you haven't measured a specific model.
I've had to look and measure a lot of them so I can try to be reasonable especially with celebrities I've seen.
I've had to look and measure a lot of them so I can try to be reasonable especially with celebrities I've seen.
Canson said on 9/May/18
@Tunman: yea for Barkley he claimed 6â4 6â4.5 or 6â4.75 or 6â5. the measurement at the 92 Olympics was 6â4 5/8. Not sure when that measurement was (time of day) but Iâll be fair and say he was also on the heavy side back then so not sure how much height he lost in a day. I do believe he measured 6â4.75 as well and that he would easily clear 6â5 out of bed. A lot of teammates such as Joe Klein and Moses Malone have called him 6â4 and then other teammates such as Ainge And Mo Cheeks called him 6â4 1/2 or 6â4/6â5 while Dan majerle said heâs âmaybe 6â5â, probably 6â4â. I can almost rule out a flat 6â4 or even a hair over with that but 6â4.5 at a low is possible meaning closer to 6â5 (6â4.5-6â5) for the entire morning possibly.
As for Boris, he can look 6â2 range with Jaime Foxx and 6â3 at other times. Then at times he can look 6â3.5 or 6â4, even perhaps over. But like you said not all pictures are good. Looking at him with Charles Barkley and Kobe Bryant and Cam newton, 3 guys who are closer to their listed heights here (all within maybe 1/4â at peak), he looks 6â3â. While Kobe and Cam look probably 195ish today, Barkley at his age looks closer to 6â4â at times than 6â5â which wouldnât surprise me considering heâs also had hip replacement
@Tunman: yea for Barkley he claimed 6â4 6â4.5 or 6â4.75 or 6â5. the measurement at the 92 Olympics was 6â4 5/8. Not sure when that measurement was (time of day) but Iâll be fair and say he was also on the heavy side back then so not sure how much height he lost in a day. I do believe he measured 6â4.75 as well and that he would easily clear 6â5 out of bed. A lot of teammates such as Joe Klein and Moses Malone have called him 6â4 and then other teammates such as Ainge And Mo Cheeks called him 6â4 1/2 or 6â4/6â5 while Dan majerle said heâs âmaybe 6â5â, probably 6â4â. I can almost rule out a flat 6â4 or even a hair over with that but 6â4.5 at a low is possible meaning closer to 6â5 (6â4.5-6â5) for the entire morning possibly.
As for Boris, he can look 6â2 range with Jaime Foxx and 6â3 at other times. Then at times he can look 6â3.5 or 6â4, even perhaps over. But like you said not all pictures are good. Looking at him with Charles Barkley and Kobe Bryant and Cam newton, 3 guys who are closer to their listed heights here (all within maybe 1/4â at peak), he looks 6â3â. While Kobe and Cam look probably 195ish today, Barkley at his age looks closer to 6â4â at times than 6â5â which wouldnât surprise me considering heâs also had hip replacement
Andrea said on 9/May/18
Haysbert I think could be closer to 6'3 today, maybe 6'3.5, but he certainly can't be 6'4 if Boris himself is tall as that as he does look comfortably taller than him. But yeah, Boris can certainly look over 6'4 at times if certain celebrities are really as tall as listed. Just to give one (of the many possible) example(s), I still have hard time to believe that a guy like Tyler Perry is even a mm taller than Boris: Click Here Now, it is true that we can't see their footwear in that scene, but even giving Tyler the benefit of doubt that he has say half an inch less footwear (and I doubt it can be more than that, considering that if you look at his other scenes in the movie he's wearing slippers that won't give much less than 2 cms) still doesn't explain how Boris looks "so much" taller than him. I mean, if anything, their listings should be reversed...
That being said, 192-3 is certainly within the realms of possibility for Boris, but overall I would say that he could be anywhere around 6'4, be it a fraction over or under (which is certainly harder to say). But 6'3? That's a big joke.
Haysbert I think could be closer to 6'3 today, maybe 6'3.5, but he certainly can't be 6'4 if Boris himself is tall as that as he does look comfortably taller than him. But yeah, Boris can certainly look over 6'4 at times if certain celebrities are really as tall as listed. Just to give one (of the many possible) example(s), I still have hard time to believe that a guy like Tyler Perry is even a mm taller than Boris: Click Here Now, it is true that we can't see their footwear in that scene, but even giving Tyler the benefit of doubt that he has say half an inch less footwear (and I doubt it can be more than that, considering that if you look at his other scenes in the movie he's wearing slippers that won't give much less than 2 cms) still doesn't explain how Boris looks "so much" taller than him. I mean, if anything, their listings should be reversed...
That being said, 192-3 is certainly within the realms of possibility for Boris, but overall I would say that he could be anywhere around 6'4, be it a fraction over or under (which is certainly harder to say). But 6'3? That's a big joke.
Andrea said on 8/May/18
I wouldn't have because Cam's stance is completely different than Kobe's, but I don't expect you to understand something like that, Christian.
And as expected, you called camera angles/positions/etc. an excuse because you don't even know what I'm talking about, which is funny, considering that you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there. It's funny that you complain about that picture when you posted a pic like this: Click Here A picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera, in order to make Boris shorter than he is. If that doesn't expose your hypocrisy, I don't know what it does.
And there you go again, misunderstanding things and jumping to conclusions. I've NEVER said that you and Canson submitted multiple and/or lowest possible votes. Are you able to read, at least a little? My accusations were actually levelled against one poster alone. And although I have no proof of what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure about that. Just like I was pretty sure about that argument we had about Ray Fisher's page, even if I had no proof (before Rob retrieved all the older comments). Btw, didn't your parents ever tell you not to tell lies as a child? đ
P.S. Canson, you are so dumb, LOL.
I wouldn't have because Cam's stance is completely different than Kobe's, but I don't expect you to understand something like that, Christian.
And as expected, you called camera angles/positions/etc. an excuse because you don't even know what I'm talking about, which is funny, considering that you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there. It's funny that you complain about that picture when you posted a pic like this: Click Here A picture where Cam is clearly closer to the camera, in order to make Boris shorter than he is. If that doesn't expose your hypocrisy, I don't know what it does.
And there you go again, misunderstanding things and jumping to conclusions. I've NEVER said that you and Canson submitted multiple and/or lowest possible votes. Are you able to read, at least a little? My accusations were actually levelled against one poster alone. And although I have no proof of what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure about that. Just like I was pretty sure about that argument we had about Ray Fisher's page, even if I had no proof (before Rob retrieved all the older comments). Btw, didn't your parents ever tell you not to tell lies as a child? đ
P.S. Canson, you are so dumb, LOL.
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: nope. I will never spam Emojiis like a teenage girl like you do just because you think that you are making someone look bad in front of others which is what you do. But that shouldnât surprise me because you arenât very mature seeing as how Viper and I both completely stopped talking to you and Viper even ignoring you and you still continue to attack us. I guess we made a huge enough impression on you though. And for you to say that I wouldnât believe Rob if he met him, if he does look it with Rob then I would accept it. On the other hand, you would âRun away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointmentâ if he wound up only being 6â3â. Thatâs childish there but I wouldnât expect anything less from you. Same with your excuses and crap like you like to call others on. I can see you âaccusing Rob of wearing liftsâ with Khodjoe just like you did with Jamie Foxx as an excuse. Or it would be that Rob made a mistake by underestimating him or something was wrong with the picture. These are all things that you have done so please donât sit here and accuse me of the same bullsh*t you do
@Andrea: nope. I will never spam Emojiis like a teenage girl like you do just because you think that you are making someone look bad in front of others which is what you do. But that shouldnât surprise me because you arenât very mature seeing as how Viper and I both completely stopped talking to you and Viper even ignoring you and you still continue to attack us. I guess we made a huge enough impression on you though. And for you to say that I wouldnât believe Rob if he met him, if he does look it with Rob then I would accept it. On the other hand, you would âRun away from this site out of embarrassment and disappointmentâ if he wound up only being 6â3â. Thatâs childish there but I wouldnât expect anything less from you. Same with your excuses and crap like you like to call others on. I can see you âaccusing Rob of wearing liftsâ with Khodjoe just like you did with Jamie Foxx as an excuse. Or it would be that Rob made a mistake by underestimating him or something was wrong with the picture. These are all things that you have done so please donât sit here and accuse me of the same bullsh*t you do
Canson said on 8/May/18
@Andrea: you just validated what Christian and I said about you having to run to Rob and solicit his opinion. To his credit, Rob doesnât know about the footwear. He didnât say that there is no advantage. He admitted that he didnât know. And Christian and I have both owned canvas shoes and other sneakers. Not to mention he and I arenât the only ones that have said that Boris has a footwear advantage in the picture. However, we all know if They were to switch shoes, that Kobe would âhave a footwear advantageâ according to you and it would be a fact. And Of course itâs âmy opinionâ when it does not support your narrative but a âfactâ when it does which is why nobody here takes anything you say seriously. You just act entitled and everyone is just supposed to agree with and bow down to you.
@Christian: yep. thatâs what Andrea does. He makes statements like that. I said the same that he could be submitting the 6â4+ votes as well. Funny part is he mentions Viper is âquite active on this pageâ. Thatâs odd because Andrea not only has far more activity than Viper, but Viper has not even been that active on Celebheights recently let alone this page. He was more active on Merrimanâs page than here.
@Andrea: you just validated what Christian and I said about you having to run to Rob and solicit his opinion. To his credit, Rob doesnât know about the footwear. He didnât say that there is no advantage. He admitted that he didnât know. And Christian and I have both owned canvas shoes and other sneakers. Not to mention he and I arenât the only ones that have said that Boris has a footwear advantage in the picture. However, we all know if They were to switch shoes, that Kobe would âhave a footwear advantageâ according to you and it would be a fact. And Of course itâs âmy opinionâ when it does not support your narrative but a âfactâ when it does which is why nobody here takes anything you say seriously. You just act entitled and everyone is just supposed to agree with and bow down to you.
@Christian: yep. thatâs what Andrea does. He makes statements like that. I said the same that he could be submitting the 6â4+ votes as well. Funny part is he mentions Viper is âquite active on this pageâ. Thatâs odd because Andrea not only has far more activity than Viper, but Viper has not even been that active on Celebheights recently let alone this page. He was more active on Merrimanâs page than here.
Tunman said on 8/May/18
He could even look over 6'4 with someone like Haysbert.As for Barkley,well,he could often look a solid 6'5 or even over but I just rule it out.I mean the dude claimed 6'4 though he's obviously rounding down.Did also claim 6'4 5/8 and 6'4.75" which is much more likely.Could it be after a game?maybe or maybe not.The same could be said of Kobe.Just some humble guys like Padalecki(whom Rob met and said was no more than 6'4 compared to McPartlin).Think of Kilborn,Momoa,or Parrack.
On the same way take a Nathan Fillion and dudes like Will Smith or even Matthew Fox,again I would bet the former would edge the two others if Rob ever meets them.
Back to Boris 192-3 is the most reasonable guesses.Must say there is still some situations like with Tyson Beckford where he looks 6'4 tops but possibly slightly under.Again pics aren't always reliable but I feel he could have decent posture at times
He could even look over 6'4 with someone like Haysbert.As for Barkley,well,he could often look a solid 6'5 or even over but I just rule it out.I mean the dude claimed 6'4 though he's obviously rounding down.Did also claim 6'4 5/8 and 6'4.75" which is much more likely.Could it be after a game?maybe or maybe not.The same could be said of Kobe.Just some humble guys like Padalecki(whom Rob met and said was no more than 6'4 compared to McPartlin).Think of Kilborn,Momoa,or Parrack.
On the same way take a Nathan Fillion and dudes like Will Smith or even Matthew Fox,again I would bet the former would edge the two others if Rob ever meets them.
Back to Boris 192-3 is the most reasonable guesses.Must say there is still some situations like with Tyson Beckford where he looks 6'4 tops but possibly slightly under.Again pics aren't always reliable but I feel he could have decent posture at times
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 7/May/18
@Andrea
At least I appreciate that you finally acknowledged the fact that Cam isn't gaining any height from his knee. If I didn't mention the fact that Alfie Allen's stance was different than that of Cam's or Kobe's, you would've probably gone the "Cam was gaining height by going up on one foot" route, like you tried to do with Kobe.
And as expected, you once again complained about camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level. It's funny to see that you're so strict on camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level when you posted a pic like this Click Here This exposes your hypocrisy and also proves that you tried to use that pic to make Boris as tall as, if not taller than Cam.
And if you accuse me and Canson and others of submitting the lowest possible votes, I could easily turn around and say that you submit the highest ones. I never voted 6'2". I did vote 6'3" once because that's how tall I see him as. And maybe there are visitors that just see Boris as being shorter than 6'4" so they voted based on how tall they think he his, have you ever thought that? Don't accuse people of doing something which you have no proof of. Didn't your parents ever tell you that as a child? LOL
@Andrea
At least I appreciate that you finally acknowledged the fact that Cam isn't gaining any height from his knee. If I didn't mention the fact that Alfie Allen's stance was different than that of Cam's or Kobe's, you would've probably gone the "Cam was gaining height by going up on one foot" route, like you tried to do with Kobe.
And as expected, you once again complained about camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level. It's funny to see that you're so strict on camera angles/positions, footwear and ground level when you posted a pic like this Click Here This exposes your hypocrisy and also proves that you tried to use that pic to make Boris as tall as, if not taller than Cam.
And if you accuse me and Canson and others of submitting the lowest possible votes, I could easily turn around and say that you submit the highest ones. I never voted 6'2". I did vote 6'3" once because that's how tall I see him as. And maybe there are visitors that just see Boris as being shorter than 6'4" so they voted based on how tall they think he his, have you ever thought that? Don't accuse people of doing something which you have no proof of. Didn't your parents ever tell you that as a child? LOL
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: Michael Jordan is taller than Boris Khodjoe. Sure the pic isnât the best but look at how Boris stacks up to Kobe and Barkley. So why is the pic with Rick Fox any better than this one when we can all clearly tell Fox isnât standing straight? Whether you want to admit it or not, he isnât. And Both Kobe and Chuck are similar in height at their peak. Barkley measured 6â4 5/8 and Kobe was measured 6â4 3/4. There is a better chance that Barkley is not as tall as he was at his peak being 55 years old today and in the physical condition he is in such as being obese and having had a hip replacement. If you watch the way that he walks, you could tell. Even if you argue that Jordan is 195cm (He was measured 6â4.5 when he was drafted), that still puts Boris at 6â3â, which is just how he looks with Kobe or Barkley. However, knowing you, you will do anything to diminish the height difference. Of course you not only make an excuse about Kobeâs stance but also that Boris does not have a footwear advantage when it is a fact that he does. Just because you either are not aware of footwear differences or are just playing dumb because you donât want to admit that Boris can look a solid 6â3â as opposed to 6â4 does not mean that the footwear difference doesnât exist. You are the first one to say that to Christian or me âJust because you arenât aware of camera angles etcâ yet when someone says it to you, you ignore it and respond back about something else that you âaccuse them of doingâ. You donât want to admit when you are wrong. And no 6â3.5 is not the lowest that one could argue. Thatâs the lowest that you could argue for him. You represent probably 1% of the population on this site so your opinion is not the only one obviously. So nothing you say is a fact. And like Christian said, I also acknowledge that there are photos of Boris looking 6â4â as Iâve also gone on record to say that his height looks all over the place. However, because you are very sensitive about Borisâs height and get very defensive when someone says he looks under 6â4, you will probably turn this around like you always do.
@Andrea: Michael Jordan is taller than Boris Khodjoe. Sure the pic isnât the best but look at how Boris stacks up to Kobe and Barkley. So why is the pic with Rick Fox any better than this one when we can all clearly tell Fox isnât standing straight? Whether you want to admit it or not, he isnât. And Both Kobe and Chuck are similar in height at their peak. Barkley measured 6â4 5/8 and Kobe was measured 6â4 3/4. There is a better chance that Barkley is not as tall as he was at his peak being 55 years old today and in the physical condition he is in such as being obese and having had a hip replacement. If you watch the way that he walks, you could tell. Even if you argue that Jordan is 195cm (He was measured 6â4.5 when he was drafted), that still puts Boris at 6â3â, which is just how he looks with Kobe or Barkley. However, knowing you, you will do anything to diminish the height difference. Of course you not only make an excuse about Kobeâs stance but also that Boris does not have a footwear advantage when it is a fact that he does. Just because you either are not aware of footwear differences or are just playing dumb because you donât want to admit that Boris can look a solid 6â3â as opposed to 6â4 does not mean that the footwear difference doesnât exist. You are the first one to say that to Christian or me âJust because you arenât aware of camera angles etcâ yet when someone says it to you, you ignore it and respond back about something else that you âaccuse them of doingâ. You donât want to admit when you are wrong. And no 6â3.5 is not the lowest that one could argue. Thatâs the lowest that you could argue for him. You represent probably 1% of the population on this site so your opinion is not the only one obviously. So nothing you say is a fact. And like Christian said, I also acknowledge that there are photos of Boris looking 6â4â as Iâve also gone on record to say that his height looks all over the place. However, because you are very sensitive about Borisâs height and get very defensive when someone says he looks under 6â4, you will probably turn this around like you always do.
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. Iâm going to take a page out of your book and say âJust because you say that Boris is 6â4â does not mean that he isâ. Thatâs your opinion just like you say that itâs my opinion that Boris doesnât have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordanâs. Kobeâs wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that heâs 6â4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25â sneaker he would be 6â6â. Borisâs shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5â as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4â. Camâs shoes add less than 1â to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. Thatâs at minimum a full cm difference.
As far as Kobeâs measurement, how is that any more prone to error than Camâs? Youâve seen Rob say that errors often occur with large data sets havenât you? So someone could read out 5113 (like the example he posted) and be 5111. Not to mention there is very little difference between 6â4.75 and 6â5 in terms of appearance. Letâs say if Boris were a strong 6â3 guy. He could be 6â4â out of bed and measure 6â3.25 at a low and have just measured in the AM. My guess is that heâs 1/4â less and to your last post, yes I do believe he looks 6â3â. As I mentioned before Fox is clearly not standing straight. I bet had that been reversed and if Boris were the one not standing straight or if there were some other issue with the picture, you would not say that. If Boris looked several inches shorter than Fox as opposed to 1.5 or 2â, you wouldâve completely disregarded the picture all together or you would be preaching to us that âBoris is not standing straight, etcâ
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. Iâm going to take a page out of your book and say âJust because you say that Boris is 6â4â does not mean that he isâ. Thatâs your opinion just like you say that itâs my opinion that Boris doesnât have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordanâs. Kobeâs wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that heâs 6â4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25â sneaker he would be 6â6â. Borisâs shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5â as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4â. Camâs shoes add less than 1â to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. Thatâs at minimum a full cm difference.
As far as Kobeâs measurement, how is that any more prone to error than Camâs? Youâve seen Rob say that errors often occur with large data sets havenât you? So someone could read out 5113 (like the example he posted) and be 5111. Not to mention there is very little difference between 6â4.75 and 6â5 in terms of appearance. Letâs say if Boris were a strong 6â3 guy. He could be 6â4â out of bed and measure 6â3.25 at a low and have just measured in the AM. My guess is that heâs 1/4â less and to your last post, yes I do believe he looks 6â3â. As I mentioned before Fox is clearly not standing straight. I bet had that been reversed and if Boris were the one not standing straight or if there were some other issue with the picture, you would not say that. If Boris looked several inches shorter than Fox as opposed to 1.5 or 2â, you wouldâve completely disregarded the picture all together or you would be preaching to us that âBoris is not standing straight, etcâ
Canson said on 7/May/18
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. Iâm going to take a page out of your book and say âJust because you say that Boris is 6â4â does not mean that he isâ. Thatâs your opinion just like you say that itâs my opinion that Boris doesnât have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordanâs. Kobeâs wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that heâs 6â4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25â sneaker he would be 6â6â. Borisâs shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5â as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4â. Camâs shoes add less than 1â to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. Thatâs at minimum a full cm difference.
@Andrea: why do you make statements and accusations like that? Stating that we submit multiple votes? If people do, then they do. I can say the same thing when the avg guess rises. I could easily say that you submit multiple times but I realize that there are others here other than just you. In addition, you come across as a know it all the way you talk to Berta, Christian, and me. Iâm going to take a page out of your book and say âJust because you say that Boris is 6â4â does not mean that he isâ. Thatâs your opinion just like you say that itâs my opinion that Boris doesnât have a footwear advantage on Kobe. However, that is a fact. He does have a clear footwear advantage on him. A canvas shoe is not going to add a full inch in height to anyone whereas the shoes that Boris had in the picture do add about 3 cm just like a pair of Jordanâs. Kobeâs wife Vanessa stated on the twitter page that heâs 6â4.75 barefoot and with a 1.25â sneaker he would be 6â6â. Borisâs shoes are no less than that and could be up to 1.5â as some sneaker add that much. In the picture with Cam Newton, Boris also has a footwear advantage and it is more than just 1/4â. Camâs shoes add less than 1â to him whereas Boris has a dress shoe on. Thatâs at minimum a full cm difference.
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: Jordan also has a 6â4 1/2 measurement. But I agree with you
@Christian: Jordan also has a 6â4 1/2 measurement. But I agree with you
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: there is no proof That he is a full 6â3 and you can obviously tell that Fox is standing straight in this pic vs the one with Khodjoe
@Andrea: there is no proof That he is a full 6â3 and you can obviously tell that Fox is standing straight in this pic vs the one with Khodjoe
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Christian: well said! Itâs the opposite of âit would make Rick Fox 6â4.5, or Dennis Haysbert 6â2â etc. you know the poor pics that we have to agree with Andrea on or else he will get angry
@Christian: well said! Itâs the opposite of âit would make Rick Fox 6â4.5, or Dennis Haysbert 6â2â etc. you know the poor pics that we have to agree with Andrea on or else he will get angry
Canson said on 6/May/18
@Andrea: he had a footwear advantage with Kobe as well. Of course you wonât admit that. But that doesnât surprise me. IT DOESNT SUPPORT YOUR NARRATIVE. And just because you say he doesnât have the advantage doesnât make it fact. Yes you are getting old
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@Andrea: he had a footwear advantage with Kobe as well. Of course you wonât admit that. But that doesnât surprise me. IT DOESNT SUPPORT YOUR NARRATIVE. And just because you say he doesnât have the advantage doesnât make it fact. Yes you are getting old
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Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 5/May/18
@Tunman
That's more than a full inch of difference between Boris and Barkley. It's a solid 1.5" if not 1.75"
@Tunman
That's more than a full inch of difference between Boris and Barkley. It's a solid 1.5" if not 1.75"
Andrea said on 5/May/18
"Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ
Editor Rob
"Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ"
It would certainly be interesting if Rob could publish the full list of votes and see who really submitted a 6'3 (or lower) vote, once you rule out "people" like free, checker, Dez, frankdatank, dginzu, Trey, gaia, Jonesey, etc. And Christian & Canson, of course. đ
Editor RobUnfortunately I can't, I decided not long ago to alter it so that the aggregate vote is retained, but individual votes are not...so nobody will ever find out what people voted.
Andrea said on 5/May/18
Well, Tunman, it also depends on how tall Barkley really is as he can often look over 6'5...
I can't completely rule out something like 192, but he generally does look taller than that, and more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here!
Well, Tunman, it also depends on how tall Barkley really is as he can often look over 6'5...
I can't completely rule out something like 192, but he generally does look taller than that, and more of a genuine 6'4 than the majority of celebrities listed at the same mark (or over) here!
Andrea said on 5/May/18
No, you couldn't, Christian. The fact that you put Cam's and Kobe's stances in the same category proves that you don't even know what I'm talking about. In Kobe's case, in fact, there are certainly grounds for that, and in any case, I've always given Kobe the benefit of doubt that he is NOT gaining any height by doing that because the photo is shot from a high angle and it's hard to say if he really is raising his foot or not. In Cam's case, I'd safely rule that eventuality out because it's a totally different stance and you can certainly tell he's not gaining any height there.
As for those guys you have mentioned, those estimates simply come from your delusional speculation about their postures (like in Cam's and Kobe's case) and/or bad photos where Boris has a noticeable disadvantage (like in The Game's and Michael Jai White's case). It is not surprising that you call those things an excuse though, because, as I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc. And you keep proving it by bringing up pictures like those. Again. According to that "logic", I could easily make a case for a 6'5 (or over) Boris, but I don't because, unlike you, I'm well aware of them. Also, the only guy who was truly "officially" measured is Cam Newton. And maybe Kobe, although that 6'4.75 figure does come from her wife, so there's always a room for an error. A guy like Charles Barkley wasn't measured at 6'4 5/8, but that figure was simply mentioned in ONE article and there's nothing official about that. If you want to believe he got measured at that mark, you're perfectly entitled to do so, but don't come here and speak of it as if it was a fact because it's not. As for Michael Jordan, I wonder how you calculated that difference, considering that there isn't any good picture of them together. I assume this is the picture you're referring to when you basically say that Michael looks 1.5-2 inches taller than Boris: Click Here First of all, I dare anyone to tell any height difference between them from a picture like that. And second of all, I could post this other photo of them Click Here , which, btw, is a much better photo than the other one angle-wise, and say that Boris is taller than Michael, but I don't because 1) you can't see the footwear, the ground level and the way they're standing, JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONE and 2) I highly doubt he's taller than Michael because it doesn't fit with how he generally looks next to the other people.
No, you couldn't, Christian. The fact that you put Cam's and Kobe's stances in the same category proves that you don't even know what I'm talking about. In Kobe's case, in fact, there are certainly grounds for that, and in any case, I've always given Kobe the benefit of doubt that he is NOT gaining any height by doing that because the photo is shot from a high angle and it's hard to say if he really is raising his foot or not. In Cam's case, I'd safely rule that eventuality out because it's a totally different stance and you can certainly tell he's not gaining any height there.
As for those guys you have mentioned, those estimates simply come from your delusional speculation about their postures (like in Cam's and Kobe's case) and/or bad photos where Boris has a noticeable disadvantage (like in The Game's and Michael Jai White's case). It is not surprising that you call those things an excuse though, because, as I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc. And you keep proving it by bringing up pictures like those. Again. According to that "logic", I could easily make a case for a 6'5 (or over) Boris, but I don't because, unlike you, I'm well aware of them. Also, the only guy who was truly "officially" measured is Cam Newton. And maybe Kobe, although that 6'4.75 figure does come from her wife, so there's always a room for an error. A guy like Charles Barkley wasn't measured at 6'4 5/8, but that figure was simply mentioned in ONE article and there's nothing official about that. If you want to believe he got measured at that mark, you're perfectly entitled to do so, but don't come here and speak of it as if it was a fact because it's not. As for Michael Jordan, I wonder how you calculated that difference, considering that there isn't any good picture of them together. I assume this is the picture you're referring to when you basically say that Michael looks 1.5-2 inches taller than Boris: Click Here First of all, I dare anyone to tell any height difference between them from a picture like that. And second of all, I could post this other photo of them Click Here , which, btw, is a much better photo than the other one angle-wise, and say that Boris is taller than Michael, but I don't because 1) you can't see the footwear, the ground level and the way they're standing, JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONE and 2) I highly doubt he's taller than Michael because it doesn't fit with how he generally looks next to the other people.
Tunman said on 5/May/18
Too bad we don't have very good pics with Barkley as he could hover from looking very close to nearly 2" smaller.Would have thought a full inch of difference though.Maybe 192-92,5 is better but up to everyone to give his own guessesClick Here
Too bad we don't have very good pics with Barkley as he could hover from looking very close to nearly 2" smaller.Would have thought a full inch of difference though.Maybe 192-92,5 is better but up to everyone to give his own guessesClick Here
berta said on 5/May/18
he is a tall guy i think 6 foot 4 ish is a good estimate for this guy.But the average makes me think he could be 192 guy. there is not often the average guess is almost 1 inch off
he is a tall guy i think 6 foot 4 ish is a good estimate for this guy.But the average makes me think he could be 192 guy. there is not often the average guess is almost 1 inch off
Andrea said on 4/May/18
Pff. You're getting old, Canson. Your next "argument" will be that Boris wears lifts, LMFAO. Btw, just because you think (or you try to convince yourself) that Boris has footwear advantage over those guys you have mentioned doesn't make it a fact. The only occasion where he really seems to have a "noticeable" footwear advantage (meaning at least 1/4 inches or over) is in those photos with Cam Newton. And there's more than one occasion where Boris even has some footwear disadvantage, like next to Chi McBride: Click Here Click Here Click Here
As for Rick Fox, there isn't more than 1.5 inches between them and that's taking into account Rick's posture (otherwise it would be even less than that) and this video Click Here . Here's a guy who truly is 6'3 (or in any case near enough that mark) with the same Rick: Click Here Rick is leaning a lot more with him, but he still looks noticeably taller next to him than how he does next to Boris. Are you really trying to say that Boris would be as low as him (6'3)? LOL
Pff. You're getting old, Canson. Your next "argument" will be that Boris wears lifts, LMFAO. Btw, just because you think (or you try to convince yourself) that Boris has footwear advantage over those guys you have mentioned doesn't make it a fact. The only occasion where he really seems to have a "noticeable" footwear advantage (meaning at least 1/4 inches or over) is in those photos with Cam Newton. And there's more than one occasion where Boris even has some footwear disadvantage, like next to Chi McBride: Click Here Click Here Click Here
As for Rick Fox, there isn't more than 1.5 inches between them and that's taking into account Rick's posture (otherwise it would be even less than that) and this video Click Here . Here's a guy who truly is 6'3 (or in any case near enough that mark) with the same Rick: Click Here Rick is leaning a lot more with him, but he still looks noticeably taller next to him than how he does next to Boris. Are you really trying to say that Boris would be as low as him (6'3)? LOL
Canson said on 3/May/18
Rick Fox is clearly leaning with Boris and we cannot see their footwear. Thatâs more than just a 1.5â difference between them
Rick Fox is clearly leaning with Boris and we cannot see their footwear. Thatâs more than just a 1.5â difference between them
Canson said on 3/May/18
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but Iâve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage including the pics with Kobe, Cam Newton, Wayne Brady to name a few
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but Iâve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage including the pics with Kobe, Cam Newton, Wayne Brady to name a few
Canson said on 3/May/18
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but Iâve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage
I can see Padalecki edging Boris. How much is unknown but Iâve seen pics with Jared in thinner footwear in pics with other celebs. I have yet to see a pic where Boris has a footwear disadvantage with another celebrity. Instead, He generally has the footwear advantage
Andrea said on 2/May/18
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A couple of things. I never said that bending your knees makes you taller, but I said that going up on one foot makes you taller, which is a bit different. The fact that someone's knee is bent can be a direct consequence of that sometimes. Look at Alfie Allen here: Click Here You would probably say he's dropping some height in that picture, but he is not, and in fact he's even gaining a bit more height than normal! As for Boris, I've never said that there's no way he can be below 6'4. I've always said that something like 6'3.5 (the absolute lowest I can see him at) isn't 100% impossible, but if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)! Although I can't completely rule it out, I see something like 6'3.5 for Boris as likely as 6'3.5 for a Jared Padalecki. Quite unlikely, but not 100% impossible. Put it that way. What I COMPLETELY rule out is 6'3. And you know why? Because that would make that would make Rick Fox no more than 6'4.5, Kim Coates no more than 5'10-5'11, Wayne Brady a weak 5'10, AJ Calloway no more than 6'-6'1 (hence Jared no more than 6'3), Casper Van Dien no more than 5'8 (hence Rob no more than 5'7), Wentworth Miller barely over 5'11, Dennis Haysbert not much more than 6'2, Chi McBride not much more than 6'3, Tyler Perry no more than 6'3, John Cena barely over 5'11, that 6'3 1/8 MEASURED guy nothing over 6'2, etc. I'm sorry if can't see them that low (especially those ones that Rob has met and that I doubt he would overestimate by an inch or over).
P.S. The only person that you keep making look like a buffoon is yourself, when you come out with comments like those. What's even funnier is that you don't even realize that. That's fine, though. I won't burst your bubble. You are the best, Christian! đđđ
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A couple of things. I never said that bending your knees makes you taller, but I said that going up on one foot makes you taller, which is a bit different. The fact that someone's knee is bent can be a direct consequence of that sometimes. Look at Alfie Allen here: Click Here You would probably say he's dropping some height in that picture, but he is not, and in fact he's even gaining a bit more height than normal! As for Boris, I've never said that there's no way he can be below 6'4. I've always said that something like 6'3.5 (the absolute lowest I can see him at) isn't 100% impossible, but if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)! Although I can't completely rule it out, I see something like 6'3.5 for Boris as likely as 6'3.5 for a Jared Padalecki. Quite unlikely, but not 100% impossible. Put it that way. What I COMPLETELY rule out is 6'3. And you know why? Because that would make that would make Rick Fox no more than 6'4.5, Kim Coates no more than 5'10-5'11, Wayne Brady a weak 5'10, AJ Calloway no more than 6'-6'1 (hence Jared no more than 6'3), Casper Van Dien no more than 5'8 (hence Rob no more than 5'7), Wentworth Miller barely over 5'11, Dennis Haysbert not much more than 6'2, Chi McBride not much more than 6'3, Tyler Perry no more than 6'3, John Cena barely over 5'11, that 6'3 1/8 MEASURED guy nothing over 6'2, etc. I'm sorry if can't see them that low (especially those ones that Rob has met and that I doubt he would overestimate by an inch or over).
P.S. The only person that you keep making look like a buffoon is yourself, when you come out with comments like those. What's even funnier is that you don't even realize that. That's fine, though. I won't burst your bubble. You are the best, Christian! đđđ
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 1/May/18
@Andrea
Don't lecture me about what distorted angles are when you apparently don't even know what the definition of "distorted" is. According to the Merriam Webster dictionary: "the act of twisting or altering something out of its true, natural, or original state." The camera angle in your pic was distorted because the angle was shot from near the ground instead of straight ahead, which visually alters the actual height difference of Boris and Cam.
And like I said, I still would've called the pic out if Cam looked 3" taller than Boris, so I don't know what you mean by "convenient for my narratives".
And I already acknowledged that Cam was standing a bit closer. And that was the closest to accurate angle pic I could find, which is much more accurate angle-wise than yours. I'm not trying to make him seem taller.
And if both of them had their eye's straight ahead, Cam would've still had a higher eyelevel than Boris. Btw, Boris' knee isn't bent to the point where he's losing height, and barely any different than the guy on the left. Unlike Cam who's knee is obviously very bent. If anyone has a fetish and an obsession with knees it's you, because you lie by saying that people gain height by bending their knees, which is scientifically impossible. You claimed that Kobe gained height by having his knee bent, which is just utterly ridiculous. And I'm not making up the height difference. If you consider the camera, footwear and postural disadvantages, the difference looks really looks anywhere between 1.5-2". But of course you'll deny it because in your mind, there's no way that Boris can be below 6'4". You're the one who said that you'll never come back to this site out of embarrassment if Boris is proven to be 6'3". On the other hand, I never say that 6'4" is impossible for Boris, it's just very unlikely. But yet I'm the one who can't respect and tolerate other people's opinions? LOL
And "Don't even bother to reply"? What kind of comeback is that? Deep down you know you don't want me to reply back because I keep making you look like a buffoon. Just admit it.
@Andrea
Don't lecture me about what distorted angles are when you apparently don't even know what the definition of "distorted" is. According to the Merriam Webster dictionary: "the act of twisting or altering something out of its true, natural, or original state." The camera angle in your pic was distorted because the angle was shot from near the ground instead of straight ahead, which visually alters the actual height difference of Boris and Cam.
And like I said, I still would've called the pic out if Cam looked 3" taller than Boris, so I don't know what you mean by "convenient for my narratives".
And I already acknowledged that Cam was standing a bit closer. And that was the closest to accurate angle pic I could find, which is much more accurate angle-wise than yours. I'm not trying to make him seem taller.
And if both of them had their eye's straight ahead, Cam would've still had a higher eyelevel than Boris. Btw, Boris' knee isn't bent to the point where he's losing height, and barely any different than the guy on the left. Unlike Cam who's knee is obviously very bent. If anyone has a fetish and an obsession with knees it's you, because you lie by saying that people gain height by bending their knees, which is scientifically impossible. You claimed that Kobe gained height by having his knee bent, which is just utterly ridiculous. And I'm not making up the height difference. If you consider the camera, footwear and postural disadvantages, the difference looks really looks anywhere between 1.5-2". But of course you'll deny it because in your mind, there's no way that Boris can be below 6'4". You're the one who said that you'll never come back to this site out of embarrassment if Boris is proven to be 6'3". On the other hand, I never say that 6'4" is impossible for Boris, it's just very unlikely. But yet I'm the one who can't respect and tolerate other people's opinions? LOL
And "Don't even bother to reply"? What kind of comeback is that? Deep down you know you don't want me to reply back because I keep making you look like a buffoon. Just admit it.
Canson said on 1/May/18
The difference in shoe between Boris and Cam is at least a full cm. The shoes Cam has on in those pictures wouldnât even add a full inch to his height while Boris is wearing a regular dress shoe that adds 3cm to his height
The difference in shoe between Boris and Cam is at least a full cm. The shoes Cam has on in those pictures wouldnât even add a full inch to his height while Boris is wearing a regular dress shoe that adds 3cm to his height
Canson said on 1/May/18
@Christian: agreed. Cam would edge Boris the same way as Kobe would. Boris was also standing closer to the camera in that picture with Kobe
@Christian: agreed. Cam would edge Boris the same way as Kobe would. Boris was also standing closer to the camera in that picture with Kobe
Andrea said on 1/May/18
Distorted angle? LOL Do you even know what an angle is? Let me answer for you. Obviously not. As I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there.
And, as totally expected, you posted a picture where Cam is standing closer to the camera to make him taller than he is. Despite that and the fact that he's raising his eyelevel, he still doesn't look much taller than Boris. I can agree about one thing, though. Boris' shoes look a bit thicker than Cam's, maybe 1/4 inches. Apart from that, I don't think their postures are much different. Sure, Boris might have a slightly better posture, but it's not going not make any noticeable difference. And in case you didn't notice (which is a bit surprising for a guy who has a fetish for "bent knees" like you, but not so much surprising for a guy who has hidden agenda like you), Boris' knee is bent as well.
Funny how, according to you, "if everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5" which "coincidentally" would make Boris as tall as you want him to be (no more than 6'3). And you even have the nerve to come here and accuse me of making excuses? When that's exactly what you (constantly) do? Here we go again. You accusing me of things you're guilty of (like you did with that argument about Ray Fisher's page, which you conveniently disregarded, now that it's been proven to be another lie of yours). You really are hopeless, LFMAO!
P.S. Don't even bother to reply because I'm certainly not going to have another never-ending discussion that leads nowhere. Especially with you!
Distorted angle? LOL Do you even know what an angle is? Let me answer for you. Obviously not. As I said, you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives. Like you did there.
And, as totally expected, you posted a picture where Cam is standing closer to the camera to make him taller than he is. Despite that and the fact that he's raising his eyelevel, he still doesn't look much taller than Boris. I can agree about one thing, though. Boris' shoes look a bit thicker than Cam's, maybe 1/4 inches. Apart from that, I don't think their postures are much different. Sure, Boris might have a slightly better posture, but it's not going not make any noticeable difference. And in case you didn't notice (which is a bit surprising for a guy who has a fetish for "bent knees" like you, but not so much surprising for a guy who has hidden agenda like you), Boris' knee is bent as well.
Funny how, according to you, "if everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5" which "coincidentally" would make Boris as tall as you want him to be (no more than 6'3). And you even have the nerve to come here and accuse me of making excuses? When that's exactly what you (constantly) do? Here we go again. You accusing me of things you're guilty of (like you did with that argument about Ray Fisher's page, which you conveniently disregarded, now that it's been proven to be another lie of yours). You really are hopeless, LFMAO!
P.S. Don't even bother to reply because I'm certainly not going to have another never-ending discussion that leads nowhere. Especially with you!
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 30/Apr/18
@Andrea
It's bad because the pic was taken from a distorted angle, regardless of who looks taller or shorter. If Cam looked 3 inches taller than Boris in that pic, I would've still called it out.
And your narrative that Boris is as tall as Cam failed because here's a pic of Cam looking taller than Boris despite Cam having footwear disadvantage. Click Here I know Cam's standing a bit closer to the camera (this is the most camera equal pic I could find of the two) but notice how Cam's has less footwear, his knee is bent, he's leaning a bit more, and his legs are spread wider than Boris', making him appear significantly shorter. If everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5". But knowing your past, you'll probably make yet more excuses like claiming Cam was gaining height by bending his knee and diminish the footwear difference, which btw you did both of those things with the Kobe and Boris pic.
@Andrea
It's bad because the pic was taken from a distorted angle, regardless of who looks taller or shorter. If Cam looked 3 inches taller than Boris in that pic, I would've still called it out.
And your narrative that Boris is as tall as Cam failed because here's a pic of Cam looking taller than Boris despite Cam having footwear disadvantage. Click Here I know Cam's standing a bit closer to the camera (this is the most camera equal pic I could find of the two) but notice how Cam's has less footwear, his knee is bent, he's leaning a bit more, and his legs are spread wider than Boris', making him appear significantly shorter. If everything were equal, Cam would've looked about 2" taller than Boris, at the very worst about 1.5". But knowing your past, you'll probably make yet more excuses like claiming Cam was gaining height by bending his knee and diminish the footwear difference, which btw you did both of those things with the Kobe and Boris pic.
Canson said on 29/Apr/18
I think Cam would measure under 6â5â later in the day. I used to think he was a legit 6â5â but after seeing how early the measurements take place along with pics with guys like Manning, Roethlisberger, and others, I can see him being similar to Kobe Bryant at 195cm. However, a 6â5â combine measurement, assuming that the timing of the 2011 measurements was similar to other years where it had been around 6 am, means Cam could be as low as 6â4 1/2â in the afternoon. Thatâs if the 6â5â was an accurate measurement to begin with.
I think Cam would measure under 6â5â later in the day. I used to think he was a legit 6â5â but after seeing how early the measurements take place along with pics with guys like Manning, Roethlisberger, and others, I can see him being similar to Kobe Bryant at 195cm. However, a 6â5â combine measurement, assuming that the timing of the 2011 measurements was similar to other years where it had been around 6 am, means Cam could be as low as 6â4 1/2â in the afternoon. Thatâs if the 6â5â was an accurate measurement to begin with.
Andrea said on 28/Apr/18
Well, your last comment certainly fits my narrative, Christian. My narrative for which you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives.
Why is that angle bad? Is it because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam? LOL
P.S. I would have let it go, but since you got into this brilliant discussion again... Rob recently retrieved all the older comments for every page now. EVEN RAY FISHER'S. I suggest you to go take a look at it, my dear Pinocchio. đ
Well, your last comment certainly fits my narrative, Christian. My narrative for which you have no clue about camera angles/positions/etc., but you sometimes RANDOMLY bring them up to "explain" those photos that are not convenient for YOUR narratives.
Why is that angle bad? Is it because you don't like the way Boris shapes up next to Cam? LOL
P.S. I would have let it go, but since you got into this brilliant discussion again... Rob recently retrieved all the older comments for every page now. EVEN RAY FISHER'S. I suggest you to go take a look at it, my dear Pinocchio. đ
Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Christian: there are some other pics out there. Cam is for sure taller than Boris
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@Christian: there are some other pics out there. Cam is for sure taller than Boris
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Canson said on 27/Apr/18
@Christian: yea the difference with Cam and Boris shouldnât look any different than Boris and Kobe. Kobe and Cam are roughly the same height. Now for Cam a 6â5â morning height at the combine could mean he comes down to 6â4.5 at a low possibly but he looks 195 most of the time. He looked just as tall with Rob gronkowski as Kobe did with Gronk
@Christian: yea the difference with Cam and Boris shouldnât look any different than Boris and Kobe. Kobe and Cam are roughly the same height. Now for Cam a 6â5â morning height at the combine could mean he comes down to 6â4.5 at a low possibly but he looks 195 most of the time. He looked just as tall with Rob gronkowski as Kobe did with Gronk
sulu2018 said on 24/Apr/18
He is listed as 6ft 3.5in almost anywhere else on the web.
He is listed as 6ft 3.5in almost anywhere else on the web.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 24/Apr/18
@Andrea
You constantly told me that posting pics with bad camera angles is bad, so why are you posting that one? Is it because it conveniently fits your narrative? And btw, Cam's shoulders are higher than Boris'. Even from that bad angle, I can tell that Boris doesn't look any taller than Cam.
@Andrea
You constantly told me that posting pics with bad camera angles is bad, so why are you posting that one? Is it because it conveniently fits your narrative? And btw, Cam's shoulders are higher than Boris'. Even from that bad angle, I can tell that Boris doesn't look any taller than Cam.
Andrea said on 23/Apr/18
Although we can't see their footwear, he doesn't look any shorter (possibly a bit taller in fact, once you take off Cam's hat) than Cam Newton, who is supposed to have been measured at 6'5 (although he probably is shorter than that as he looked a bit shorter than Kobe in a couple of pictures): Click Here
Although we can't see their footwear, he doesn't look any shorter (possibly a bit taller in fact, once you take off Cam's hat) than Cam Newton, who is supposed to have been measured at 6'5 (although he probably is shorter than that as he looked a bit shorter than Kobe in a couple of pictures): Click Here
Andrea said on 23/Apr/18
Junior, 6'3.5 doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, but it does seem too low with everybody else... If he was as low as 6'3.5, that would mean that every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)!
Junior, 6'3.5 doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, but it does seem too low with everybody else... If he was as low as 6'3.5, that would mean that every celebrity he appeared with needs a major downgrade (and some already do, if he's only 6'4 flat)!
Canson said on 19/Apr/18
@Junior: with Kobe and Barkley, he honestly looks 6â3â flat imho, especially taking into account the footwear advantage he had on Kobe
@Junior: with Kobe and Barkley, he honestly looks 6â3â flat imho, especially taking into account the footwear advantage he had on Kobe
Junior Hernandez 1990 said on 19/Apr/18
I believe 6'3.5" if Boris stand straight although he can look 6'3-6'3.25" with Kobe and Barkley. 6'3.5" literally 191.7cm not a full 192cm so is hugely possible and he don't look only 6'3 with 5'11 Bruce Willis. Added Conan O'brien look the range as Boris to me.
I believe 6'3.5" if Boris stand straight although he can look 6'3-6'3.25" with Kobe and Barkley. 6'3.5" literally 191.7cm not a full 192cm so is hugely possible and he don't look only 6'3 with 5'11 Bruce Willis. Added Conan O'brien look the range as Boris to me.
Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: funny you mentioned The pic Boris has with Kobe to Berta but of course you didnât post it because it doesnât support your narrative. And In this pic you can clearly see their footwear in addition to the fact Boris is closer to the camera and wearing a hat.
Click Here
@Andrea: funny you mentioned The pic Boris has with Kobe to Berta but of course you didnât post it because it doesnât support your narrative. And In this pic you can clearly see their footwear in addition to the fact Boris is closer to the camera and wearing a hat.
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Canson said on 13/Apr/18
@Andrea: why do you make up stuff like Viper submits votes before he goes to bed or that heâs rigging it? You know, there are pics out there that suggest he is below 6â4 and the one with Kobe is a prime example. Heâs not 192cm next to Kobe no matter how much you believe he is. Thatâs over an inch difference and he has a clear advantage in footwear. Your opinion is respected and you should learn to respect others
@Andrea: why do you make up stuff like Viper submits votes before he goes to bed or that heâs rigging it? You know, there are pics out there that suggest he is below 6â4 and the one with Kobe is a prime example. Heâs not 192cm next to Kobe no matter how much you believe he is. Thatâs over an inch difference and he has a clear advantage in footwear. Your opinion is respected and you should learn to respect others
Andrea said on 13/Apr/18
Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ
Yeah, he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with. Although you can certainly say that something like 192 is not impossible next to Kobe (if he really is as low as his 6'4.75 listing), even that mark generally does seem too low for him. If he was as low as 192, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). I mean, look at him with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
Average Guess means nothing, berta. And this is one of the many cases that prove it. Also, remember that viper is quite active on this page... I'm sure that submitting a 6'2 vote (just because you can't vote any lower, of course) with one of his countless names/accounts before going to bed helps him sleep better. đ
Yeah, he basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with. Although you can certainly say that something like 192 is not impossible next to Kobe (if he really is as low as his 6'4.75 listing), even that mark generally does seem too low for him. If he was as low as 192, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). I mean, look at him with:
1. 6'1.5 listed Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
2. 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) listed Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
3. 6'5.5 listed Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
4. 6'1 listed Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
5. 6'6 listed Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
6. 6' listed James Van Der Beek: Click Here
7. 6' listed Kim Coates: Click Here
8. 6'7.5 listed Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
9. 6'1 listed Brian J White: Click Here
10. 5'11 listed Wayne Brady: Click Here
11. 6'4 listed Henry Simmons: Click Here
12. 5'10.75 listed Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
13. 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
14. 5'9.25 listed Casper Van Dien: Click Here
15. 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
16. 6'0.5 listed Wentworth Miller: Click Here
17. 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) listed Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
18. 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
19. 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
20. 6'3 1/8 MEASURED Damien Woody: Click Here
21. 196 listed Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
22. 6'4.5 listed Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
23. 6'0.5 listed John Cena: Click Here
24. 6'4.25 listed Tyler Perry: Click Here
25. 6'4.75 listed James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
viper said on 11/Apr/18
I always thought he was like 6-2-6-3 before I even knew his height.
I always thought he was like 6-2-6-3 before I even knew his height.
Canson said on 11/Apr/18
@Berta: he really does look closer to the average here than his listed height here on CH with 6â4.75â Kobe Bryant given he also has a footwear advantage over Kobe. The most I could argue in that pic is 6â3â flat.
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@Berta: he really does look closer to the average here than his listed height here on CH with 6â4.75â Kobe Bryant given he also has a footwear advantage over Kobe. The most I could argue in that pic is 6â3â flat.
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berta said on 9/Apr/18
average guess seems strange he always looke in the 6 foot 4 range.
average guess seems strange he always looke in the 6 foot 4 range.
Canson said on 31/Mar/18
@Viper: Looking at him with other celebs. He can look under but peak may be a full 6â4â. As for Boris Iâve never seen them together
@Viper: Looking at him with other celebs. He can look under but peak may be a full 6â4â. As for Boris Iâve never seen them together
viper said on 30/Mar/18
What makes you think hes under 6-4
What makes you think hes under 6-4
Andrea said on 30/Mar/18
That's a totally random and non-sense statement...
That's a totally random and non-sense statement...
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: my apology. Cress looks 6â3.5ish more than 6â4
@Viper: my apology. Cress looks 6â3.5ish more than 6â4
Canson said on 29/Mar/18
@Viper: and Cress isnât even a legit 6â4â listed here 6â3.5 I think
@Viper: and Cress isnât even a legit 6â4â listed here 6â3.5 I think
viper said on 28/Mar/18
He doesn't look as tall as a 6-4 guy like Cress Williams.
He doesn't look as tall as a 6-4 guy like Cress Williams.
Canson said on 13/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: another one to add that you may know is Brandon Roy. Iâm about an inch shorter than him too
@Celebheights 6â1.5: another one to add that you may know is Brandon Roy. Iâm about an inch shorter than him too
Andrea said on 13/Mar/18
Well, Canson, although I agree that Merriman's height can really look all over the place at times, I can't say the same for Boris. In fact, Boris basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with, although there are definitely a very few occasions where you can argue that a fraction under 6'4 is not impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe)... As for Idris, the absolute lowest I'd ever try to argue between them is 3 cms, but to be honest, in that movie they did together he really could look anywhere between 1.5-2 inches shorter than Boris...
Well, Canson, although I agree that Merriman's height can really look all over the place at times, I can't say the same for Boris. In fact, Boris basically always looks at least 6'4 with every celebrity he appears with, although there are definitely a very few occasions where you can argue that a fraction under 6'4 is not impossible for him (like that picture with Kobe)... As for Idris, the absolute lowest I'd ever try to argue between them is 3 cms, but to be honest, in that movie they did together he really could look anywhere between 1.5-2 inches shorter than Boris...
Canson said on 12/Mar/18
@Andrea: at a low if heâs 6â4â flat we would be about identical in appearance as im down to 6â4.25 most days. Youâre right we would be hard to tell difference. I had a feeling he would edge Merriman but not sure now who would be taller. Merriman looks all over the place. Boris too but not to that Extent. As for Elba, Boris had him by maybe 2-3cm at times at others could look 1/2â or so
@Andrea: at a low if heâs 6â4â flat we would be about identical in appearance as im down to 6â4.25 most days. Youâre right we would be hard to tell difference. I had a feeling he would edge Merriman but not sure now who would be taller. Merriman looks all over the place. Boris too but not to that Extent. As for Elba, Boris had him by maybe 2-3cm at times at others could look 1/2â or so
Andrea said on 11/Mar/18
As I said, I strongly disagree about that, but you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, Canson... đ
To be fair, I've never ruled out a fraction under 6'4 (which can certainly be argued next to Kobe), but, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 next to everyone else, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than that. I mean, even at 192 (rather than 193), if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). Let alone 6'3 (or under)!
That being said, who knows, maybe one day you'll meet him and see how tall he "really" is by yourself. If you really are around 194 like you say, I'm sure he would be very close to you (like within half an inch)...
As I said, I strongly disagree about that, but you're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want, Canson... đ
To be fair, I've never ruled out a fraction under 6'4 (which can certainly be argued next to Kobe), but, considering that he generally looks at least 6'4 next to everyone else, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than that. I mean, even at 192 (rather than 193), if he really was as low as that, that would mean that basically every celebrity that appeared with him should be downgraded by a visible amount (and some already should be, if he's only 6'4 flat). Let alone 6'3 (or under)!
That being said, who knows, maybe one day you'll meet him and see how tall he "really" is by yourself. If you really are around 194 like you say, I'm sure he would be very close to you (like within half an inch)...
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 11/Mar/18
appear taller*
appear taller*
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: itâs tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6â5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6â5â or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6â5 or 6â5 1/4 than 6â5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6â5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him âcloser to 6â5â than 6â6â. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks âaboutâ the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6â5 at times too. I think thatâs probably his low for the day 6â4.75 and if anything less itâs maybe a mm or two but thatâs about all
Another person to add to who Iâve played that was a pro was Jason Maxiell. I know his cousin as well. Maxiell when I saw him wasnât really much taller than me (Iâm 6â4 1/4-.3) prob half inch but now heâs shot up to 6â5 1/2 according to his cousin and what I saw where he was cut from his overseas team for exceeding the height limit of 6â5 (6â5 11/16).
@Celebheights 6â1.5: itâs tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6â5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6â5â or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6â5 or 6â5 1/4 than 6â5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6â5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him âcloser to 6â5â than 6â6â. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks âaboutâ the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6â5 at times too. I think thatâs probably his low for the day 6â4.75 and if anything less itâs maybe a mm or two but thatâs about all
Another person to add to who Iâve played that was a pro was Jason Maxiell. I know his cousin as well. Maxiell when I saw him wasnât really much taller than me (Iâm 6â4 1/4-.3) prob half inch but now heâs shot up to 6â5 1/2 according to his cousin and what I saw where he was cut from his overseas team for exceeding the height limit of 6â5 (6â5 11/16).
Canson said on 10/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: itâs tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6â5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6â5â or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6â5 or 6â5 1/4 than 6â5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6â5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him âcloser to 6â5â than 6â6â. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks âaboutâ the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6â5 at times too. I think thatâs probably his low for the day 6â4.75 and if anything less itâs maybe a mm or two but thatâs about all
@Celebheights 6â1.5: itâs tough to gauge but with Manning Kobe can look the about same height but the thing is Manning had multiple neck surgeries during his career I believe 4. But Manning which is a rarity actually looked 6â5.25 at his peak or maybe 196cm flat. My guess is that Manning May have lost some height though as he looks shorter than JJ Watt or Draymond Green. Manning may be hovering around 6â5â or a hair under these days. While Watt actually can look close to his drafted height Green looks more 6â5 or 6â5 1/4 than 6â5.75. Also saw where Steve Kerr calls him 6â5 as does Carmelo Anthony and Alvin Gentry his former assistant coach called him âcloser to 6â5â than 6â6â. Not to mention the former assistant GM said Green was the 3rd shortest player on that team behind Curry and Ian Clark. Green to me looks âaboutâ the same with Kobe as he does Manning. But admittedly Kobe can look 6â5 at times too. I think thatâs probably his low for the day 6â4.75 and if anything less itâs maybe a mm or two but thatâs about all
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: Boris may be closer. Andrea could be right could be 3cm difference. Hard to tell with the hat and the angle. But even at 3cm Borisâs shoe is thicker than Kobeâs. I canât tell if thatâs a boot but even in just a 1â sneaker or 1.25 that could be a 5/8â difference or at worst 1/4â. So if He has the footwear at 1/4â Kobe would be 6â4.75 and he would be about what you have him 6â3 1/4 maybe 6â3 1/3. But thatâs prob at least a full cm to call it so 6â3 1/4. Or maybe all thints considered 6â3 flat.
@Celebheights 6â1.5: Boris may be closer. Andrea could be right could be 3cm difference. Hard to tell with the hat and the angle. But even at 3cm Borisâs shoe is thicker than Kobeâs. I canât tell if thatâs a boot but even in just a 1â sneaker or 1.25 that could be a 5/8â difference or at worst 1/4â. So if He has the footwear at 1/4â Kobe would be 6â4.75 and he would be about what you have him 6â3 1/4 maybe 6â3 1/3. But thatâs prob at least a full cm to call it so 6â3 1/4. Or maybe all thints considered 6â3 flat.
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Andrea: I didnât take into account him gaining additional height either. My thinking based on how they look even if we go 3cm difference in appearance the shoes are different. Boris has an advantage. Maybe 6â2.75 was low and he could be 6â3 imho. 6â3.25 is possible which actually could make sense too because he would be 6â4â out of bed and couldâve gotten an early morning 6â3.75 or even 6â3.5 and rounded up. But he can look 6â4 at times too I agree. His height is all over the place but not as bad as Shawneâs. I agree with you on Idris. Not a flat 6â2 but I think the type of height that Michael phelps or Russellâs westbrook would be. Maybe 6â2.25 up to .5. 189cm. Never met Russ but Phelps I did and he looked around 2â shorter than me. He could be 6â2.5 max but I wouldâve guessed 6â2.25-.5. He has a very long torso tho. He didnât look proportionate at all. Phelps could lose an inch conceivably and be a 191-192cm out of bed.
@Andrea: I didnât take into account him gaining additional height either. My thinking based on how they look even if we go 3cm difference in appearance the shoes are different. Boris has an advantage. Maybe 6â2.75 was low and he could be 6â3 imho. 6â3.25 is possible which actually could make sense too because he would be 6â4â out of bed and couldâve gotten an early morning 6â3.75 or even 6â3.5 and rounded up. But he can look 6â4 at times too I agree. His height is all over the place but not as bad as Shawneâs. I agree with you on Idris. Not a flat 6â2 but I think the type of height that Michael phelps or Russellâs westbrook would be. Maybe 6â2.25 up to .5. 189cm. Never met Russ but Phelps I did and he looked around 2â shorter than me. He could be 6â2.5 max but I wouldâve guessed 6â2.25-.5. He has a very long torso tho. He didnât look proportionate at all. Phelps could lose an inch conceivably and be a 191-192cm out of bed.
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 9/Mar/18
@Canson I agree that he looks to be 6'3 1/4" there, especially considering the fact that Boris is slightly closer to the camera there. While Kobe Byrant can admittedly appear than his listing, he also looks to be no more than 6'4 3/4" here by a 6'5 1/4" measured Peyton Manning:
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Another one of my favorite shots would be him by Andy Roddick, a 6'1" listed James Blake (it's hard to say how tall that he is in reality, as I'm not too familiar with him) and a 6'9 3/4" listed John Isner:
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Andy Roddick looks to be about the same as Novak Djokovic (maybe fractionally taller at times), 2 CM taller than Roger Federer, and then 4-4.5 CM taller than Rafael Nadal is. Therefore, Andy Roddick isn't a fraction over 6'2". Considering this, I'd estimate that Boris isn't a full 6'4" there.
@Canson I agree that he looks to be 6'3 1/4" there, especially considering the fact that Boris is slightly closer to the camera there. While Kobe Byrant can admittedly appear than his listing, he also looks to be no more than 6'4 3/4" here by a 6'5 1/4" measured Peyton Manning:
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Another one of my favorite shots would be him by Andy Roddick, a 6'1" listed James Blake (it's hard to say how tall that he is in reality, as I'm not too familiar with him) and a 6'9 3/4" listed John Isner:
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Andy Roddick looks to be about the same as Novak Djokovic (maybe fractionally taller at times), 2 CM taller than Roger Federer, and then 4-4.5 CM taller than Rafael Nadal is. Therefore, Andy Roddick isn't a fraction over 6'2". Considering this, I'd estimate that Boris isn't a full 6'4" there.
Canson said on 9/Mar/18
@Celebheights6â1.5: as far as Rick Fox, heâs more 6â5.5 Based on Rob meeting him. And based on how he looks with Kobe
@Celebheights6â1.5: as far as Rick Fox, heâs more 6â5.5 Based on Rob meeting him. And based on how he looks with Kobe
Canson said on 8/Mar/18
@Andrea: thereâs definitely always a chance Boris is under 6â4â. Especially compared to kobe
@Celebheights 6â1.5: Melo was very cool. I actually have met him when he was in high school when he was at Oak Hill. Heâs a few years younger than me but I saw him about 2 years ago at a restaurant when he was here. Iâve also played against and seen in person off the court Juan Dixon Steve Blake Jarrett Jack Caron Butler Keith Bogans Joe Forte Kirk Hinrich TJ Ford Delonte West Eddie Basden who played with West at Roosevelt. Iâve played against Eddie Griffin and others as well. Iâve met face to face Harvey Grant Larry Johnson Gheorge muresan Muggsy Bogues Dell Curry. Met Rod Strickland Chris Webber Calbert Cheaney Juwan howard (I was a teen then and wasnât on even ground when I met them at the game so hard to tell how exactly tall they were) and Charles Barkley I saw from a distance same with Michael Jordan Rip hamilton. However the others I could give a decent estimate.
@Andrea: thereâs definitely always a chance Boris is under 6â4â. Especially compared to kobe
@Celebheights 6â1.5: Melo was very cool. I actually have met him when he was in high school when he was at Oak Hill. Heâs a few years younger than me but I saw him about 2 years ago at a restaurant when he was here. Iâve also played against and seen in person off the court Juan Dixon Steve Blake Jarrett Jack Caron Butler Keith Bogans Joe Forte Kirk Hinrich TJ Ford Delonte West Eddie Basden who played with West at Roosevelt. Iâve played against Eddie Griffin and others as well. Iâve met face to face Harvey Grant Larry Johnson Gheorge muresan Muggsy Bogues Dell Curry. Met Rod Strickland Chris Webber Calbert Cheaney Juwan howard (I was a teen then and wasnât on even ground when I met them at the game so hard to tell how exactly tall they were) and Charles Barkley I saw from a distance same with Michael Jordan Rip hamilton. However the others I could give a decent estimate.
Andrea said on 8/Mar/18
I completely agree with you about Idris, Canson, just like I completely disagree with you about Boris... đ
6'2.25 is not impossible for Idris, but that's the probably the lowest I'd argue. Although he can certainly look no more than 6'2 at times, I think he's got to clear the 6'2 mark when he stands at his tallest. How much is the question. 1/4 inch? 1/2 inch? Both of them are pretty arguable, IMO, but 6'2.75 I think is a bit optimistic...
As for Boris, he looks no more than 3 cms shorter than Kobe, and that's taking into account his footwear that doesn't look much different than Kobe's and giving Kobe the benefit of doubt that he's not gaining any height by going up slightly on his left foot... That being said, although you can certainly say that 192 range doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than the current listing, considering that he basically looks at least that mark with everyone else and in fact one of the most genuine and solid 6'4 celebrities on here (just like a Jared Padalecki)...
I completely agree with you about Idris, Canson, just like I completely disagree with you about Boris... đ
6'2.25 is not impossible for Idris, but that's the probably the lowest I'd argue. Although he can certainly look no more than 6'2 at times, I think he's got to clear the 6'2 mark when he stands at his tallest. How much is the question. 1/4 inch? 1/2 inch? Both of them are pretty arguable, IMO, but 6'2.75 I think is a bit optimistic...
As for Boris, he looks no more than 3 cms shorter than Kobe, and that's taking into account his footwear that doesn't look much different than Kobe's and giving Kobe the benefit of doubt that he's not gaining any height by going up slightly on his left foot... That being said, although you can certainly say that 192 range doesn't seem impossible with Kobe, I certainly wouldn't give him any less than the current listing, considering that he basically looks at least that mark with everyone else and in fact one of the most genuine and solid 6'4 celebrities on here (just like a Jared Padalecki)...
Canson said on 7/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: some good points you made! My guess for Idris is 6â2.25 maybe 6â2.5. Andrea said may have measured 6â2.5. Could be true and could be 6â2.25 at a low. Boris to me looks at least 1.5 shorter than Kobe and has a footwear advantage. Even if the difference is like 3cm still makes him around 6â3.25 but my guess would be solid 6â3. Strong 6â2â means more like 6â2.25 tho not a flat 6â2â
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@Celebheights 6â1.5: some good points you made! My guess for Idris is 6â2.25 maybe 6â2.5. Andrea said may have measured 6â2.5. Could be true and could be 6â2.25 at a low. Boris to me looks at least 1.5 shorter than Kobe and has a footwear advantage. Even if the difference is like 3cm still makes him around 6â3.25 but my guess would be solid 6â3. Strong 6â2â means more like 6â2.25 tho not a flat 6â2â
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Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18
By the way, since you said that you met Carmelo Anthony down below, how cool was he in person? Is he the only NBA player that youâve met before?
By the way, since you said that you met Carmelo Anthony down below, how cool was he in person? Is he the only NBA player that youâve met before?
Andrea said on 6/Mar/18
Well, although you can certainly say that none of them is impossible, there's a lot more chance of Idris being as low as "a strong 6'2" than Boris being below 6'4...
Well, although you can certainly say that none of them is impossible, there's a lot more chance of Idris being as low as "a strong 6'2" than Boris being below 6'4...
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 6/Mar/18
@Canson While I will agree that Idris Elba does appear to be 6â2â flat by a 6â6 1/4â measured Carmelo Anthony, I highly doubt that heâs only a strong 6â2â. Chris Hemsworth doesnât appear to be any taller than Idris Elba, and he clears Tom Hiddleston by at least a full inch in Thor. If he was a flat 6â2â like he claimed, then Tom and Chris (along with so many other celebrities) would desperately need to get downgraded quickly. Iâll agree that 6â2 3/4â is possible over 6â3â, but I wouldnât go any lower than that. Carmelo Anthony has a tendency to make celebrities appear shorter than their listings for some odd reason, as I remember that he made Ashton Kutcher appear as if he was 187 CM tall AT MOST (which we can all agree isnât physically possible.
As for Boris Kodjoe, I could see him at 6â3 3/4â considering all of the evidence that youâve posted of him appearing to be under 6â4â below. He frequently doesnât appear to be as tall as 6â4â by most measured celebrities when the photos arenât distorted. Especially if you look at the photos of Rick Fox who is listed as 6â7â, which likely means that heâs around 6â6â without shoes since the general rule is that the heights that most players get listed at in the NBA are in shoes + a possible round up. Therefore, I really donât think that itâs insane to estimate his height as being below 6â4â.
@Canson While I will agree that Idris Elba does appear to be 6â2â flat by a 6â6 1/4â measured Carmelo Anthony, I highly doubt that heâs only a strong 6â2â. Chris Hemsworth doesnât appear to be any taller than Idris Elba, and he clears Tom Hiddleston by at least a full inch in Thor. If he was a flat 6â2â like he claimed, then Tom and Chris (along with so many other celebrities) would desperately need to get downgraded quickly. Iâll agree that 6â2 3/4â is possible over 6â3â, but I wouldnât go any lower than that. Carmelo Anthony has a tendency to make celebrities appear shorter than their listings for some odd reason, as I remember that he made Ashton Kutcher appear as if he was 187 CM tall AT MOST (which we can all agree isnât physically possible.
As for Boris Kodjoe, I could see him at 6â3 3/4â considering all of the evidence that youâve posted of him appearing to be under 6â4â below. He frequently doesnât appear to be as tall as 6â4â by most measured celebrities when the photos arenât distorted. Especially if you look at the photos of Rick Fox who is listed as 6â7â, which likely means that heâs around 6â6â without shoes since the general rule is that the heights that most players get listed at in the NBA are in shoes + a possible round up. Therefore, I really donât think that itâs insane to estimate his height as being below 6â4â.
Andrea said on 5/Mar/18
Boris looked comfortably over an inch taller than Idris in that movie they did together, no less than 1.5 inches I'd say...
That being said, I highly doubt that Idris is as tall as 6'3, especially considering that he himself claimed to be 6'2, 6'2.5 and nearly 6'3. Somewhere between 6'2 and 6'3 is believable, but no taller than that. Actually, considering that he came out with such a precise mark as 6'2.5, 6'2.5 would be a more appropriate listing for him (rather than the current 6'2.75 one), IMO...
Boris looked comfortably over an inch taller than Idris in that movie they did together, no less than 1.5 inches I'd say...
That being said, I highly doubt that Idris is as tall as 6'3, especially considering that he himself claimed to be 6'2, 6'2.5 and nearly 6'3. Somewhere between 6'2 and 6'3 is believable, but no taller than that. Actually, considering that he came out with such a precise mark as 6'2.5, 6'2.5 would be a more appropriate listing for him (rather than the current 6'2.75 one), IMO...
Canson said on 4/Mar/18
@Celebheights 6â1.5: idris looks just a strong 6â2â to tell you the truth. Look at the pic with Carmelo Anthony and thatâs a solid 4â difference. I met Melo and if he isnât the full 6â6.25 he for sure isnât less than a solid 6â6â at his low. Boris is likely a flat 6â3â when you factor in Kobe edges him by about 1.5 and Boris has a footwear advantage
@Celebheights 6â1.5: idris looks just a strong 6â2â to tell you the truth. Look at the pic with Carmelo Anthony and thatâs a solid 4â difference. I met Melo and if he isnât the full 6â6.25 he for sure isnât less than a solid 6â6â at his low. Boris is likely a flat 6â3â when you factor in Kobe edges him by about 1.5 and Boris has a footwear advantage
Celebheights 6'1.5 said on 3/Mar/18
If Idris Elba is really 6â2 1/2â like a lot of people believe (which I donât, as he looks 6â3â to me) then Boris is 6â3 1/2â.
If Idris Elba is really 6â2 1/2â like a lot of people believe (which I donât, as he looks 6â3â to me) then Boris is 6â3 1/2â.
viper said on 1/Mar/18
Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.
Never thought of him as OJ. I thought somebody like Morris Chestnut would have been a way better choice to play OJ than Cuba.
MJKoP said on 28/Feb/18
This guy is currently shooting a movie where he plays OJ Simpson! I guess they can't complain about the actor being too short anymore(*cough, cough* Cuba Gooding Jr.)!
This guy is currently shooting a movie where he plays OJ Simpson! I guess they can't complain about the actor being too short anymore(*cough, cough* Cuba Gooding Jr.)!
Agent Orange said on 16/Feb/18
@Christian
Hey man if I offended then sorry no hard feelings. I kinda reacted to the negative comments that were circling around at the time.
@Christian
Hey man if I offended then sorry no hard feelings. I kinda reacted to the negative comments that were circling around at the time.
Andrea said on 14/Feb/18
LOL, sure thing, Christian. Sure thing... You really are hopeless, LMFAO!
LOL, sure thing, Christian. Sure thing... You really are hopeless, LMFAO!
Canson said on 13/Feb/18
Hmmm Andrea. Sounds like exactly what you do. Going and resurrecting posts of other people having disagreements with others to try and discredit them. Thatâs exactly what you did to me. Like Christian said anything that is posted here or anyone who posts here who disagrees with you direct those types of statements toward. Like Christian said, you think youâre âentitledâ because some of your estimates ended up being true.funny how you say âthere are no pictures of him looking less than 6â4â when there clearly are. You have to resort to diminishing and lying saying things like that when the pics donât support your narrative just to attempt to prove your point.
Hmmm Andrea. Sounds like exactly what you do. Going and resurrecting posts of other people having disagreements with others to try and discredit them. Thatâs exactly what you did to me. Like Christian said anything that is posted here or anyone who posts here who disagrees with you direct those types of statements toward. Like Christian said, you think youâre âentitledâ because some of your estimates ended up being true.funny how you say âthere are no pictures of him looking less than 6â4â when there clearly are. You have to resort to diminishing and lying saying things like that when the pics donât support your narrative just to attempt to prove your point.
Andrea said on 12/Feb/18
Kappa! đ đ
Like I said, your comments speak for themselves...
Kappa! đ đ
Like I said, your comments speak for themselves...
Canson said on 10/Feb/18
@Andrea: that link on YouTube was completely unnecessary. And you call others childish? Really? You wonder why Christian responds back to you because you provoke him to
@Andrea: that link on YouTube was completely unnecessary. And you call others childish? Really? You wonder why Christian responds back to you because you provoke him to
Canson said on 10/Feb/18
While I agree that this discussion has gone on too long, I feel that each one of us contributed something negative, including you Andrea, and Including me. Ending it may be a good thing but when you say youâve reached this point or that point, youâre making it sound as if Christian antagonized this when he didnât. The things that he is saying back to you are in response to the things that you are telling him. Iâm saying that because you said the same things to me as well. To be fair, we donât agree with you which is why you say what you do and you donât agree with us which is fine.
While I agree that this discussion has gone on too long, I feel that each one of us contributed something negative, including you Andrea, and Including me. Ending it may be a good thing but when you say youâve reached this point or that point, youâre making it sound as if Christian antagonized this when he didnât. The things that he is saying back to you are in response to the things that you are telling him. Iâm saying that because you said the same things to me as well. To be fair, we donât agree with you which is why you say what you do and you donât agree with us which is fine.
Andrea said on 10/Feb/18
Hell, Christian, Click Here ! đ To be honest, I'm just done wasting my breath on you. I definitely gave you too much importance and attention. A lot more than what you actually deserve. You clearly don't have the necessary knowledge to understand a lot of things, so I'm done talking to a wall of ignorance. That being said, unfortunately for you, most comments of yours are still here, so I'm sure that any person with half a brain understands who really is guilty of those things you love accusing me of. Your comments speak for themselves. đ
Goodbye, Christian! đ
Hell, Christian, Click Here ! đ To be honest, I'm just done wasting my breath on you. I definitely gave you too much importance and attention. A lot more than what you actually deserve. You clearly don't have the necessary knowledge to understand a lot of things, so I'm done talking to a wall of ignorance. That being said, unfortunately for you, most comments of yours are still here, so I'm sure that any person with half a brain understands who really is guilty of those things you love accusing me of. Your comments speak for themselves. đ
Goodbye, Christian! đ
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 9/Feb/18
@Andrea
Not only youâre biased, make excuses, and be a hypocrite, but now youâre being a weak coward. Are you gonna just run away from a discussion just because your little feelings were hurt? I get that this discussion is becoming way too long, but it seems like you ran out of words at this point and your only option is to cop out. I honestly expected it from you.
@Andrea
Not only youâre biased, make excuses, and be a hypocrite, but now youâre being a weak coward. Are you gonna just run away from a discussion just because your little feelings were hurt? I get that this discussion is becoming way too long, but it seems like you ran out of words at this point and your only option is to cop out. I honestly expected it from you.
Andrea said on 7/Feb/18
Rob, since this seems to have become Shawne Merriman's page lately, why don't you just give him a page? đ
Editor Rob
Rob, since this seems to have become Shawne Merriman's page lately, why don't you just give him a page? đ
Editor RobWell, maybe it would be interesting to see what people guessed him at.
I think half the time he slouches in photos and simply never stands as tall as he can.
I think half the time he slouches in photos and simply never stands as tall as he can.
Andrea said on 7/Feb/18
Whatever you say, Christian. I was going to reply again, but it's a no brainer that this discussion will never end in this way, so I'll take the lead on this and get out of this stupid and useless discussion. I've reached a point where I really couldn't care less of what you say. You think I'm biased? That's fine. You think I lie? That's fine. You think I make excuses? That's fine. I don't care.
Have a good life!
Whatever you say, Christian. I was going to reply again, but it's a no brainer that this discussion will never end in this way, so I'll take the lead on this and get out of this stupid and useless discussion. I've reached a point where I really couldn't care less of what you say. You think I'm biased? That's fine. You think I lie? That's fine. You think I make excuses? That's fine. I don't care.
Have a good life!
Canson said on 6/Feb/18
@Checker: I believed you all along the Merriman isnât as tall as Davis. No need to convince me lol. Andrea is the one who needs it. Look at my post a few days back too. I put up a pic of Dexter Manley and Shawne. Davis looks the same with him as Manley does. I met Manley as a kid and he looked pretty close to my father in height. My dad used to be a legit 6â4â maybe still at worst 6â3.75 today in his late 60s. But I even asked my dad and he said Manley is about 6â3â when we met him back in the late 80s
@Checker: I believed you all along the Merriman isnât as tall as Davis. No need to convince me lol. Andrea is the one who needs it. Look at my post a few days back too. I put up a pic of Dexter Manley and Shawne. Davis looks the same with him as Manley does. I met Manley as a kid and he looked pretty close to my father in height. My dad used to be a legit 6â4â maybe still at worst 6â3.75 today in his late 60s. But I even asked my dad and he said Manley is about 6â3â when we met him back in the late 80s
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Marcus Allen is under 6'2 as I have researched and still looks taller than Merriman. Click Here
Marcus Allen is under 6'2 as I have researched and still looks taller than Merriman. Click Here
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Hey Canson, remember when I told you Ricky Jackson looks 6'1 in person, and not his listed 6'2.
Well Im subscribed to newspapers.com and he was measured at 6'1 back in 1980.
Hey Canson, remember when I told you Ricky Jackson looks 6'1 in person, and not his listed 6'2.
Well Im subscribed to newspapers.com and he was measured at 6'1 back in 1980.
checker said on 5/Feb/18
Canson, dont you think Vernon looks taller here. Click Here
I scoped out that pic to even show Vernon is taller.
Canson, dont you think Vernon looks taller here. Click Here
I scoped out that pic to even show Vernon is taller.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 4/Feb/18
@Canson
I appreciate that and I feel the same about you
@Canson
I appreciate that and I feel the same about you
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
@Christian: and thatâs why I also respect you as a poster more than the majority here
@Christian: and thatâs why I also respect you as a poster more than the majority here
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
Shawne Merriman with 6â3â Dexter Manley. Same type of pics as the ones with Vernon Davis and heâs clearly shorter than Manley
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Shawne Merriman with 6â3â Dexter Manley. Same type of pics as the ones with Vernon Davis and heâs clearly shorter than Manley
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Canson said on 4/Feb/18
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Davis is leaning in both of those pics. Merriman is not taller than him or even as tall.
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Davis is leaning in both of those pics. Merriman is not taller than him or even as tall.
Canson said on 4/Feb/18
@Andrea: are you really accusing Christian of cherry picking? Ok so what do we say about you making all types of excuses such as âJamie Foxx possibly having liftsâ or you ânoticing a footwear difference with Boris and Barkleyâ but not an obvious difference with Kobe and Boris? And yes of course you agree with or side with tunman and Ajay because they donât challenge you on anything. If they believe he is 6â4â (only Tunman actually said it not Ajay actually) you will approve because they support your narrative.
@Andrea: are you really accusing Christian of cherry picking? Ok so what do we say about you making all types of excuses such as âJamie Foxx possibly having liftsâ or you ânoticing a footwear difference with Boris and Barkleyâ but not an obvious difference with Kobe and Boris? And yes of course you agree with or side with tunman and Ajay because they donât challenge you on anything. If they believe he is 6â4â (only Tunman actually said it not Ajay actually) you will approve because they support your narrative.
Andrea said on 3/Feb/18
Exactly, 'Ajay'. And that is just one of the many pictures (or videos) where Boris looks a solid 6'4, but again Christian loves to disregard inconvenient photos and cherry-pick certain photos that somehow prove his point. I mean, he's the same guy who thinks that Shawne Merriman is around an inch shorter than Vernon Davis, despite two good pictures speaking otherwise: Click Here Click Here And he even has the nerve of calling me biased, LMFAO. I wonder who still takes him seriously, apart from his bff Canson and the rest of the "dream team" he created in these months, of course!
Exactly, 'Ajay'. And that is just one of the many pictures (or videos) where Boris looks a solid 6'4, but again Christian loves to disregard inconvenient photos and cherry-pick certain photos that somehow prove his point. I mean, he's the same guy who thinks that Shawne Merriman is around an inch shorter than Vernon Davis, despite two good pictures speaking otherwise: Click Here Click Here And he even has the nerve of calling me biased, LMFAO. I wonder who still takes him seriously, apart from his bff Canson and the rest of the "dream team" he created in these months, of course!
Andrea said on 3/Feb/18
And Juggernaut is definitely not the only guy you've accused of being a fanboy or wanting this or that celebrity taller than they are. You did it with a good number of posters on here. And you did it with me too, before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page. All of that because you think that your opinions are the only truth and you can't accept that other people disagree with you. And again, what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. So according to your fuc*ed up "logic", you too, you need consensus and people agreeing with you, which is already quite clear by other actions and comments of yours, btw.
And don't worry. Those posters that I respect and appreciate have a brain (have you ever heard about it?), so I'm sure they do realize who is the big fool on here! đđ
And Juggernaut is definitely not the only guy you've accused of being a fanboy or wanting this or that celebrity taller than they are. You did it with a good number of posters on here. And you did it with me too, before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page. All of that because you think that your opinions are the only truth and you can't accept that other people disagree with you. And again, what's wrong with asking Rob his opinion about height differences and celebrities' heights? First of all, he's the top man in this field, whether you like it or not. He's been running a height site for over 13 years and he objectively has more knowledge about it than anybody else, so his opinion means something. And, unlike someone else, he's not biased. Second of all, everybody constantly asks him questions. Every day. Why do you think is that? I don't think it's because they need consensus or people agreeing with them. Besides the fact that, once again, you're hypocrite, considering that I've seen you asking Rob similar questions in the past. So according to your fuc*ed up "logic", you too, you need consensus and people agreeing with you, which is already quite clear by other actions and comments of yours, btw.
And don't worry. Those posters that I respect and appreciate have a brain (have you ever heard about it?), so I'm sure they do realize who is the big fool on here! đđ
Canson said on 3/Feb/18
@Ajay: then a pic with Michael Jordan, Jamie Foxx or Kobe Bryant reinforces that heâs not 6â4â. Nobody truly knows to be honest.
@Ajay: then a pic with Michael Jordan, Jamie Foxx or Kobe Bryant reinforces that heâs not 6â4â. Nobody truly knows to be honest.
Ajay said on 2/Feb/18
What's with this insanity in the comments section? You guys have been arguing for at least a year now over his height from what I recall. By the way Christian, that pic you posted with Haysbert just enforces the idea that Boris is a solid 6'4
What's with this insanity in the comments section? You guys have been arguing for at least a year now over his height from what I recall. By the way Christian, that pic you posted with Haysbert just enforces the idea that Boris is a solid 6'4
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: notice 6â3.25 too? Thatâs closer to 192 than the 6â3 estimate that Checker said was his max he could be. Andrea also used his estimate with Magic as âproofâ because âViperâ was used to underestimating people in the past that Boris may be 6â4â before he provided that now heâs all of a sudden not a credible poster. Then you have Bobby who guessed him max 6â2.75. Both Bobby and Checker/Viper guessed him below what Mr R did. So what Iâm reading and probably everyone else that has seen the posts is that the further away someone is from 6â4 or 192cm that the more âridiculousâ and less âcredibleâ the person is. And itâs even worse when the person has responded back to Andrea or disagreed with him (Bobby never did that). Notice how Andrea simply disagreed with Mr R and Junior when they guessed him 6â3.25 nor did he include him in his last post to you about people who donât take him seriously and think he is full of crap. Those two in addition to Bobby didnât respond back to him. However Bennett and Viper (in addition to you and I) have all responded back, challenged, and called him out. Instead it was you me Bennett and Viper and only because us three didnât agree with him (he didnât mention Bobby3342 because heâs never had any interaction with him). Instead he put him in the same category as Mr. R not being credible because heâs guessed a few celebs âout of alignment with what he believesâ.
@Christian: notice 6â3.25 too? Thatâs closer to 192 than the 6â3 estimate that Checker said was his max he could be. Andrea also used his estimate with Magic as âproofâ because âViperâ was used to underestimating people in the past that Boris may be 6â4â before he provided that now heâs all of a sudden not a credible poster. Then you have Bobby who guessed him max 6â2.75. Both Bobby and Checker/Viper guessed him below what Mr R did. So what Iâm reading and probably everyone else that has seen the posts is that the further away someone is from 6â4 or 192cm that the more âridiculousâ and less âcredibleâ the person is. And itâs even worse when the person has responded back to Andrea or disagreed with him (Bobby never did that). Notice how Andrea simply disagreed with Mr R and Junior when they guessed him 6â3.25 nor did he include him in his last post to you about people who donât take him seriously and think he is full of crap. Those two in addition to Bobby didnât respond back to him. However Bennett and Viper (in addition to you and I) have all responded back, challenged, and called him out. Instead it was you me Bennett and Viper and only because us three didnât agree with him (he didnât mention Bobby3342 because heâs never had any interaction with him). Instead he put him in the same category as Mr. R not being credible because heâs guessed a few celebs âout of alignment with what he believesâ.
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: that shouldnât be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesnât look 6â4 doesnât count as a âpictureâ or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesnât want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue itâs the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it
As far as Mr R., his estimates were more reliable (emphasis on the word more) until he estimated Boris at âa little over 6â3â. Youâll see below in one of his posts where Andrea then brings to light all of the bad guesses heâs made over the years to discredit him as a poster and disqualify his estimate on Boris
@Christian: that shouldnât be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesnât look 6â4 doesnât count as a âpictureâ or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesnât want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue itâs the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it
As far as Mr R., his estimates were more reliable (emphasis on the word more) until he estimated Boris at âa little over 6â3â. Youâll see below in one of his posts where Andrea then brings to light all of the bad guesses heâs made over the years to discredit him as a poster and disqualify his estimate on Boris
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Christian: that shouldnât be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesnât look 6â4 doesnât count as a âpictureâ or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesnât want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue itâs the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it
@Christian: that shouldnât be very surprising coming from Andrea. This is the same person going around claiming that Foxx wears lifts. Any pic where Boris doesnât look 6â4 doesnât count as a âpictureâ or as evidence as there is something wrong with it. And because he thinks they are bad (actually doesnât want to believe are adequate) then it automatically makes it a fact. Yet when he looks it in a different pic that may have the same issue itâs the opposite yet still a fact to him because he wants to believe it
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 2/Feb/18
@Andrea
That's certainly not true when you said Boris never looks under 192. He looks under it with many people other than just Akon and Jamie, such as 6'2.4" measured Shawne Merriman, 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley, 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant, 6'11" Dirk Nowitzski, 6'9.75" listed John Isner, 5'8" listed Usher (although he looks taller in a different pic), 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White (even the pic you posted he looks a bit under 192)
And so just because Bobby guessed one or two celebs off, that qualifies him as a bad guesser? Yet you called Mr. R a credible and genuine poster when he guessed like 5 different celebs off? To be fair, he did guess Boris as 6'3.25" in person so I doubt he's that bad of a guesser. Now I understand that Bobby's estimates for the most part seem believable based on my OPINION, but so is your 6'4" estimate for Boris, it's simply an OPINION.
And it's totally laughable how you say Shawne's dropping more height than Shilique. First of all, you can't see his legs, so why do you jump to conclusions that he was dropping leg height? Yet Kobe visibly had one of his knees bent in the pic with Boris, but you say he's not dropping height because of that and if anything he's gaining height?? Click Here Time and time again, you just prove my point when I say that you're biased and like to pick and choose what fits your narrative. Btw, it's clear that Shilique's losing more height than Shawne in the upper body because it's visible, unlike the legs.
And I don't need anyone to be on my "team" really. I don't need validation or approval from anyone. And besides, what's the point of me trying to get Rampage into my "team" when he never even had arguements with you on Boris' page? The reason why Rampage's discussion with me ended is because unlike you, he didn't act immature or like an entitled brat. Now I didn't like the fact that he said I sucked at estimating height, but I felt he was just expressing his brutally honest opinion. I've had many disagreements with many different posters in the past, but the majority of them didn't escalate so much because those people didn't quite act like the way you did. Sorry, but nothing's more arrogant and egotistic than saying that you'll bet all of your money if Boris turned out to be 6'3", or that if he turned out to be 6'3" you'll never show up to this site again due to embarrassment, or that because almost all of your estimates for celebs turned out to be true when Rob met them, that it's going to be the case for Boris as well.
And the only time I imply that people are fanboys is when they give impossible estimates, when Juggernaut said Brock Lesnar's 6'2.75" which is impossible since he was measured 6'2.25" at the NFL draft. Or when posters were saying Barkley's 6'6" or 6'6"-6'7" which is impossible since he was measured 6'4 5/8". If people dislike me over that, then that's their own issue. And you claim that you don't need consensus or people agreeing with you, but your actions say the opposite when you've ran to Rob many many times asking him how tall a celeb is or the height difference between celebs. (and you've been doing this for years) I won't be surprised at all if the posters you "respect" and "appreciate" already see you for what you really are, but they just don't speak out about it yet. Let's be real, you've made yourself look like a big fool throughout this discussion.
@Andrea
That's certainly not true when you said Boris never looks under 192. He looks under it with many people other than just Akon and Jamie, such as 6'2.4" measured Shawne Merriman, 6'4 5/8" measured Charles Barkley, 6'4.75" measured Kobe Bryant, 6'11" Dirk Nowitzski, 6'9.75" listed John Isner, 5'8" listed Usher (although he looks taller in a different pic), 6'0.5" listed Michael Jai White (even the pic you posted he looks a bit under 192)
And so just because Bobby guessed one or two celebs off, that qualifies him as a bad guesser? Yet you called Mr. R a credible and genuine poster when he guessed like 5 different celebs off? To be fair, he did guess Boris as 6'3.25" in person so I doubt he's that bad of a guesser. Now I understand that Bobby's estimates for the most part seem believable based on my OPINION, but so is your 6'4" estimate for Boris, it's simply an OPINION.
And it's totally laughable how you say Shawne's dropping more height than Shilique. First of all, you can't see his legs, so why do you jump to conclusions that he was dropping leg height? Yet Kobe visibly had one of his knees bent in the pic with Boris, but you say he's not dropping height because of that and if anything he's gaining height?? Click Here Time and time again, you just prove my point when I say that you're biased and like to pick and choose what fits your narrative. Btw, it's clear that Shilique's losing more height than Shawne in the upper body because it's visible, unlike the legs.
And I don't need anyone to be on my "team" really. I don't need validation or approval from anyone. And besides, what's the point of me trying to get Rampage into my "team" when he never even had arguements with you on Boris' page? The reason why Rampage's discussion with me ended is because unlike you, he didn't act immature or like an entitled brat. Now I didn't like the fact that he said I sucked at estimating height, but I felt he was just expressing his brutally honest opinion. I've had many disagreements with many different posters in the past, but the majority of them didn't escalate so much because those people didn't quite act like the way you did. Sorry, but nothing's more arrogant and egotistic than saying that you'll bet all of your money if Boris turned out to be 6'3", or that if he turned out to be 6'3" you'll never show up to this site again due to embarrassment, or that because almost all of your estimates for celebs turned out to be true when Rob met them, that it's going to be the case for Boris as well.
And the only time I imply that people are fanboys is when they give impossible estimates, when Juggernaut said Brock Lesnar's 6'2.75" which is impossible since he was measured 6'2.25" at the NFL draft. Or when posters were saying Barkley's 6'6" or 6'6"-6'7" which is impossible since he was measured 6'4 5/8". If people dislike me over that, then that's their own issue. And you claim that you don't need consensus or people agreeing with you, but your actions say the opposite when you've ran to Rob many many times asking him how tall a celeb is or the height difference between celebs. (and you've been doing this for years) I won't be surprised at all if the posters you "respect" and "appreciate" already see you for what you really are, but they just don't speak out about it yet. Let's be real, you've made yourself look like a big fool throughout this discussion.
Canson said on 2/Feb/18
@Andrea: re: the end of your response to Christian, the feeling is very mutual between us.
@Andrea: re: the end of your response to Christian, the feeling is very mutual between us.
checker said on 1/Feb/18
What are the 2 pics where Vernon looks taller than Merriman. The one had Vernon almost cut off from the camera, lol.
And James Vanderbeek is around 5'10-5'11. He looked it on Dawsons Creek with 6'0 John Wesley Shipp.
Andrea, thats bare minimum 1 to 2 inches between Merriman and Shilique. If Shilique had the same posture as Merriman he would be looking 2+ inches taller.
What are the 2 pics where Vernon looks taller than Merriman. The one had Vernon almost cut off from the camera, lol.
And James Vanderbeek is around 5'10-5'11. He looked it on Dawsons Creek with 6'0 John Wesley Shipp.
Andrea, thats bare minimum 1 to 2 inches between Merriman and Shilique. If Shilique had the same posture as Merriman he would be looking 2+ inches taller.
Andrea said on 1/Feb/18
Tunman, I think he looks more 6'4 than many guys listed at the same mark on here, just like Jared Padalecki. Although 192 range certainly doesn't seem impossible next to Kobe and Barkley (if they are as low as their 6'4.75 listings), he generally looks one of the most genuine 6'4 on here. I think a guy like Jason Momoa has a lot more chance of being as low as 6'3.5 than him (and Jared)...
I mean look at him:
With listed 6'1.5 Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
With listed 6'5.5 Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'6 (but more 6'5.5 range) Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6' James Van Der Beek: Click Here
With listed 6' Kim Coates: Click Here
With listed 6'7.5 Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Brian J White: Click Here
With listed 5'11 Wayne Brady: Click Here
With listed 6'4 Henry Simmons: Click Here
With listed 5'10.75 Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
With 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
With listed 5'9.25 Casper Van Dien: Click Here
With 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 Wentworth Miller: Click Here
With listed 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
With 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
With 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
With MEASURED 6'3 1/8 Damien Woody: Click Here
With listed 196 Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'4.5 Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 John Cena: Click Here
With listed 6'4.25 Tyler Perry: Click Here
With listed 6'4.75 James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
Tunman, I think he looks more 6'4 than many guys listed at the same mark on here, just like Jared Padalecki. Although 192 range certainly doesn't seem impossible next to Kobe and Barkley (if they are as low as their 6'4.75 listings), he generally looks one of the most genuine 6'4 on here. I think a guy like Jason Momoa has a lot more chance of being as low as 6'3.5 than him (and Jared)...
I mean look at him:
With listed 6'1.5 Boris Becker: Click Here Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 (6'1 peak) Steve Harvey and 6' Tyson Beckford: Click Here With the same Steve Harvey, back in 1998 (so certainly still at his peak height, considering that he was only around 40 back then): Click Here
With listed 6'5.5 Kevin Durand: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Oded Fehr: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'6 (but more 6'5.5 range) Rick Fox: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6' James Van Der Beek: Click Here
With listed 6' Kim Coates: Click Here
With listed 6'7.5 Magic Johnson: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'1 Brian J White: Click Here
With listed 5'11 Wayne Brady: Click Here
With listed 6'4 Henry Simmons: Click Here
With listed 5'10.75 Tyrese Gibson: Click Here
With 6'1.5-6'2 range AJ Calloway: Click Here The same AJ with Jared: Click Here
With listed 5'9.25 Casper Van Dien: Click Here
With 5'11-6' range Dr. Oz: Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 Wentworth Miller: Click Here
With listed 6'4 (6'4.5 peak) Dennis Haysbert: Click Here Click Here
With 6'3 range Nigel Barker: Click Here
With 6'3 range Jerome Boateng: Click Here
With MEASURED 6'3 1/8 Damien Woody: Click Here
With listed 196 Dustin Brown: Click Here The same Dustin with Andy Murray: Click Here Click Here
With listed 6'4.5 Chi McBride: Click Here And Boris even seems to be in less footwear than Chi: Click Here Click Here With the same Chi, back in 2000s (when Chi was only just over 40, so I doubt he had already lost anything by then): Click Here
With listed 6'0.5 John Cena: Click Here
With listed 6'4.25 Tyler Perry: Click Here
With listed 6'4.75 James Avery (in his late 50s): Click Here
Andrea said on 1/Feb/18
Trust me, Christian. I'm very tired of this discussion too. I totally understand Rob's decision about not retrieving the old comments on Ray's page, but I'm 100% sure that I've NEVER mentioned that thing before because I never really cared about it. And since you like it when I say that, I would bet all my money on that too...
I always compare Jared to Boris because both of them look two of the most genuine 6'4 on here. And both of them rarely look as low as 6'3, maybe even never. Speaking of Boris, the lowest he can look is 192 next to Kobe and Barkley, if you exclude those two pictures of him with Jamie Foxx and Akon (where he admittedly can look as low as 6'2-6'3). And I don't care if 3 or even 4 people said that they met Boris and that he's around 6'3. Again, who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Funny how you refer to Bobbyh3342 as a 6'4.25 guy, as if you personally had measured him. Giving some estimates that, IN YOUR OPINION, are believable doesn't automatically make him legit or something. I never had the chance of talking to him and I have nothing against him, but he's the same guy who guessed Kim Coates just over 2 inches shorter than Boris "in person" (at 6'0.5), so I certainly wouldn't say that all of his estimates seem very believable. Click Here As for Boris' agencies listings, as I said, we've already been there. Christopher Lee wasn't listed at 6'4 (or over) until later in his career as well. And he's just one of the many examples...
As for Shilique's picture, I'm pretty sure that you already knew that there's some tilt in Shilique's favor, LOL. I tried to straighten the picture and I maintain my "around an inch" guess: Click Here I can see 3 cms (which is still around an inch), but not much more than that. And of course I'm taking into consideration their postures. In fact, I would say that Shawne is dropping more height than Shilique there, judging by his legs (or what you can see of them).
And of course I would completely rule out 6'5 for Boris, now that I have seen more pictures of him. Just like I completely rule out 6'3. I guess the way he looks with those guys (Durand, Coates and Haysbert) speaks more about their listings than Boris'...
And don't worry. I already took a look at that exchange of views between you and Rampage on Kagame's page and I found it very amusing, I must say. Funny how you both were going to start a new discussion with each other there, but as soon as Rampage realized that you had defended him against me on here (which you clearly did just to attack me and to have him in your "team"), he took back everything he said (including the marvelous "Christian, as always you suck at estimating height" statement) and the discussion just ended there, LMFAO. Same thing for you. Getting back to this extremely long discussion, sure, me too, I have my "responsibilities" and maybe I could have avoided saying certain things, but everything I said was a direct consequence of what you said. So again, don't even try to pin all of this on me. Fact is that I've been on here for a much longer time than you and I've never had such a long and heated discussion. With anyone... Your arrogance certainly plays/played a big role in it. In fact, you're one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen on here and you always speak as if what you say is the only truth and when someone tries to have a normal discussion and disagrees with you, you simply attack them and come out with stupid comments like "you are a fanboy", "you just want him/her to be taller", etc. No wonder that you are so disliked on here. As for people sticking up for me or not, I honestly don't need it, unlike someone else. I'm a quite confident person and I certainly don't need consensus or people agreeing with me. And if posters like Viper, Bennett or even Canson think that I'm full of crap... I'm just glad about it. It means I'm doing it right. The day posters that I truly respect and appreciate will start thinking that way, maybe I'll start worrying about it. ;)
Trust me, Christian. I'm very tired of this discussion too. I totally understand Rob's decision about not retrieving the old comments on Ray's page, but I'm 100% sure that I've NEVER mentioned that thing before because I never really cared about it. And since you like it when I say that, I would bet all my money on that too...
I always compare Jared to Boris because both of them look two of the most genuine 6'4 on here. And both of them rarely look as low as 6'3, maybe even never. Speaking of Boris, the lowest he can look is 192 next to Kobe and Barkley, if you exclude those two pictures of him with Jamie Foxx and Akon (where he admittedly can look as low as 6'2-6'3). And I don't care if 3 or even 4 people said that they met Boris and that he's around 6'3. Again, who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Funny how you refer to Bobbyh3342 as a 6'4.25 guy, as if you personally had measured him. Giving some estimates that, IN YOUR OPINION, are believable doesn't automatically make him legit or something. I never had the chance of talking to him and I have nothing against him, but he's the same guy who guessed Kim Coates just over 2 inches shorter than Boris "in person" (at 6'0.5), so I certainly wouldn't say that all of his estimates seem very believable. Click Here As for Boris' agencies listings, as I said, we've already been there. Christopher Lee wasn't listed at 6'4 (or over) until later in his career as well. And he's just one of the many examples...
As for Shilique's picture, I'm pretty sure that you already knew that there's some tilt in Shilique's favor, LOL. I tried to straighten the picture and I maintain my "around an inch" guess: Click Here I can see 3 cms (which is still around an inch), but not much more than that. And of course I'm taking into consideration their postures. In fact, I would say that Shawne is dropping more height than Shilique there, judging by his legs (or what you can see of them).
And of course I would completely rule out 6'5 for Boris, now that I have seen more pictures of him. Just like I completely rule out 6'3. I guess the way he looks with those guys (Durand, Coates and Haysbert) speaks more about their listings than Boris'...
And don't worry. I already took a look at that exchange of views between you and Rampage on Kagame's page and I found it very amusing, I must say. Funny how you both were going to start a new discussion with each other there, but as soon as Rampage realized that you had defended him against me on here (which you clearly did just to attack me and to have him in your "team"), he took back everything he said (including the marvelous "Christian, as always you suck at estimating height" statement) and the discussion just ended there, LMFAO. Same thing for you. Getting back to this extremely long discussion, sure, me too, I have my "responsibilities" and maybe I could have avoided saying certain things, but everything I said was a direct consequence of what you said. So again, don't even try to pin all of this on me. Fact is that I've been on here for a much longer time than you and I've never had such a long and heated discussion. With anyone... Your arrogance certainly plays/played a big role in it. In fact, you're one of the most arrogant posters I've ever seen on here and you always speak as if what you say is the only truth and when someone tries to have a normal discussion and disagrees with you, you simply attack them and come out with stupid comments like "you are a fanboy", "you just want him/her to be taller", etc. No wonder that you are so disliked on here. As for people sticking up for me or not, I honestly don't need it, unlike someone else. I'm a quite confident person and I certainly don't need consensus or people agreeing with me. And if posters like Viper, Bennett or even Canson think that I'm full of crap... I'm just glad about it. It means I'm doing it right. The day posters that I truly respect and appreciate will start thinking that way, maybe I'll start worrying about it. ;)
Canson said on 31/Jan/18
@Christian: well said!
@Christian: well said!
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/Jan/18
@Andrea
I'm not lying. I know for certain that you brought it up on Ray's page. I'd like Rob to retrive the older comments as well, but it's best to just leave him alone since he's obviously starting to get tired of our never-ending heated discussion.
And I don't know why you love to compare Jared to Boris as if they're in the same boat. The differences between the two is that Boris looks about 6'3" next to some people, while Jared very rarely looks as low as that next to anyone, maybe even never. And several people (at least 3 or 4) said Boris is around 6'3" or less in person, while only one person who met Jared said he looked 6'3" and the rest (at least 4) said he looked 6'4". Btw Bobbyh3342 met both Boris and Jared and said Boris looked 6'2.75" and Jared a good 6'4". And he's a credible poster because all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics. And he's a very tall guy himself (about 6'4.25") so he can easily tell the difference between a 6'2.75" and a 6'4" guy. And I know that some taller models get underlisted on agencies, but with Boris, if they're gonna underlist him, why list him at 3 different heights? He should've just got listed 6'2" and be done with it. But they also listed him 6'2.5" and 6'3", which leads me to believe that they are more accurate listings. He wasn't listed 6'4" until later in his career.
And I already know that the tilt in the pic favors Shilique a bit, but you also have to consider that he's dropping a bit more height than Shawne because he's hunching more. You can ask any poster on this site and most will tell you that Shilique looks about 1.5" taller than Shawne there. If you don't believe me, go ask. And I'm not the one being biased because I acknowledged that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics, I just said that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne in my opinion. (It's the same thing as you believeing that Shawne's an inch shorter than Barkley despite there's a pic where the difference looks 2"+, I wouldn't call you biased over that so don't call me biased either) You on the other hand are biased about the Shawne and Shilique pic, because you purposefully diminished the height difference to 1" when it's clearly 1.5" in the pic.
And it's hilarious how you think 6'5" is possible for Boris yet 6'3" is impossible when there are more pics of him looking 6'3" then there are pics of him looking 6'5", plus Boris himself never claimed or listed in any agency as 6'5".
And I wasn't using Rampage against you. I've always respected him as a poster since I first saw joined this site. I just disagree with some of his estimates, and we had a few minor arguments here and there, but he apologized to me and appreciates me for defending him and now we're cool with each other. Take a look at the comments on Paul Kagame's page Click Here Our disagreement could've ended in the same manner that Rampage's did, but unlike him, you started acting immature and calling me names. Whether you started it or not, one thing for sure is that you escalated it. Now I'm not perfect and I've said a few things that were unecessary, but at least I own up to it. You however, think that you're entitled and think you deserve some type of respect or admiration just because most celebs you estimated supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them. And you wonder why no one sticked up for you in our discussion. Canson, Viper/Checker, Bennett/Junior among others realize that you're full of crap.
@Andrea
I'm not lying. I know for certain that you brought it up on Ray's page. I'd like Rob to retrive the older comments as well, but it's best to just leave him alone since he's obviously starting to get tired of our never-ending heated discussion.
And I don't know why you love to compare Jared to Boris as if they're in the same boat. The differences between the two is that Boris looks about 6'3" next to some people, while Jared very rarely looks as low as that next to anyone, maybe even never. And several people (at least 3 or 4) said Boris is around 6'3" or less in person, while only one person who met Jared said he looked 6'3" and the rest (at least 4) said he looked 6'4". Btw Bobbyh3342 met both Boris and Jared and said Boris looked 6'2.75" and Jared a good 6'4". And he's a credible poster because all of his estimates seem very believable if you see those celebs standing next to others in pics. And he's a very tall guy himself (about 6'4.25") so he can easily tell the difference between a 6'2.75" and a 6'4" guy. And I know that some taller models get underlisted on agencies, but with Boris, if they're gonna underlist him, why list him at 3 different heights? He should've just got listed 6'2" and be done with it. But they also listed him 6'2.5" and 6'3", which leads me to believe that they are more accurate listings. He wasn't listed 6'4" until later in his career.
And I already know that the tilt in the pic favors Shilique a bit, but you also have to consider that he's dropping a bit more height than Shawne because he's hunching more. You can ask any poster on this site and most will tell you that Shilique looks about 1.5" taller than Shawne there. If you don't believe me, go ask. And I'm not the one being biased because I acknowledged that Shawne looks taller than Vernon in those two pics, I just said that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne in my opinion. (It's the same thing as you believeing that Shawne's an inch shorter than Barkley despite there's a pic where the difference looks 2"+, I wouldn't call you biased over that so don't call me biased either) You on the other hand are biased about the Shawne and Shilique pic, because you purposefully diminished the height difference to 1" when it's clearly 1.5" in the pic.
And it's hilarious how you think 6'5" is possible for Boris yet 6'3" is impossible when there are more pics of him looking 6'3" then there are pics of him looking 6'5", plus Boris himself never claimed or listed in any agency as 6'5".
And I wasn't using Rampage against you. I've always respected him as a poster since I first saw joined this site. I just disagree with some of his estimates, and we had a few minor arguments here and there, but he apologized to me and appreciates me for defending him and now we're cool with each other. Take a look at the comments on Paul Kagame's page Click Here Our disagreement could've ended in the same manner that Rampage's did, but unlike him, you started acting immature and calling me names. Whether you started it or not, one thing for sure is that you escalated it. Now I'm not perfect and I've said a few things that were unecessary, but at least I own up to it. You however, think that you're entitled and think you deserve some type of respect or admiration just because most celebs you estimated supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them. And you wonder why no one sticked up for you in our discussion. Canson, Viper/Checker, Bennett/Junior among others realize that you're full of crap.
Canson said on 30/Jan/18
@Christian: another one where 6â2 7/8 combine TO is leaning in more and looks âjust about as tall as Borisâ. If Boris has an advantage itâs very little here once the tilt is addressed. I donât see TO much under this mark
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@Christian: another one where 6â2 7/8 combine TO is leaning in more and looks âjust about as tall as Borisâ. If Boris has an advantage itâs very little here once the tilt is addressed. I donât see TO much under this mark
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Canson said on 30/Jan/18
There are times when he can look 6â4â but other times when he looks 6â2 range like 6â2.5 for example. And others when he looks in the 6â3â range. Then again he can look 6â5+ at times like Christian said. His height is all over the place but being thereâs a footwear advantage with Kobe he really can look 6â3 there and 6â3 with Barkley.
There are times when he can look 6â4â but other times when he looks 6â2 range like 6â2.5 for example. And others when he looks in the 6â3â range. Then again he can look 6â5+ at times like Christian said. His height is all over the place but being thereâs a footwear advantage with Kobe he really can look 6â3 there and 6â3 with Barkley.
Tunman said on 30/Jan/18
Yeah,he generally looks around 6'4 more than anything else,well he could turn to be slightly smaller than Jared Padalecki.Still I think he looked only 191,5 with Kobe,that's the lowest arguable imo.Anything under this is really a joke,he just consistantly looks near 6'4.Perhaps a slight downgrage to 192 is possible but not under.
Yeah,he generally looks around 6'4 more than anything else,well he could turn to be slightly smaller than Jared Padalecki.Still I think he looked only 191,5 with Kobe,that's the lowest arguable imo.Anything under this is really a joke,he just consistantly looks near 6'4.Perhaps a slight downgrage to 192 is possible but not under.
Canson said on 26/Jan/18
@Christian: I almost guarantee if the cameras werenât up as high as they are that we wouldnât even see a difference with those two. Thatâs a cm diff and I do not believe for one second that Boris is taller than Haysbert is. Haysbert looked a legit 6â4â in his peak. Even in Love and Basketball both guys were in the movie and Boris didnât look as tall with Omar Epps as Haysbert did. Haysbert has more scenes being he played Zeke McCall his father but haysbert looked taller with Epps than Boris did with him when they were at the Senior Prom and he was Sanaa Lathanâs Date
@Christian: I almost guarantee if the cameras werenât up as high as they are that we wouldnât even see a difference with those two. Thatâs a cm diff and I do not believe for one second that Boris is taller than Haysbert is. Haysbert looked a legit 6â4â in his peak. Even in Love and Basketball both guys were in the movie and Boris didnât look as tall with Omar Epps as Haysbert did. Haysbert has more scenes being he played Zeke McCall his father but haysbert looked taller with Epps than Boris did with him when they were at the Senior Prom and he was Sanaa Lathanâs Date
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 26/Jan/18
@Canson
Yet Andrea tries to say that Boris looks an inch taller than Haysbert Click Here When it's very clear that Shilique looks taller with Shawne than Boris does with Haysbert.
@Canson
Yet Andrea tries to say that Boris looks an inch taller than Haysbert Click Here When it's very clear that Shilique looks taller with Shawne than Boris does with Haysbert.
Canson said on 25/Jan/18
@Christian: Iâve actually brought that up several times with the pic with Boris and Haysbert in comparison with Kobe and Boris and others that Boris is in. Meaning what Andrea says is exaggerated to fit his narrative because comparing it to others it doesnât add up. Kobe had more difference on Boris than Boris had on Haysbert and not just a cm itâs more than that. Thatâs nowhere near an inch or even close to 2cm with Boris and Haysbert if Kobe and Boris is only 3cm? Or if Barkley and Boris is only 3-4 (with an alleged shoe difference). Or with Calhoun and Merriman. The last comparison (Merriman and Calhoun) Calhoun has at least 2.5-3 cm more than Boris had on Haysbert which is only about a cm if anything
@Christian: Iâve actually brought that up several times with the pic with Boris and Haysbert in comparison with Kobe and Boris and others that Boris is in. Meaning what Andrea says is exaggerated to fit his narrative because comparing it to others it doesnât add up. Kobe had more difference on Boris than Boris had on Haysbert and not just a cm itâs more than that. Thatâs nowhere near an inch or even close to 2cm with Boris and Haysbert if Kobe and Boris is only 3cm? Or if Barkley and Boris is only 3-4 (with an alleged shoe difference). Or with Calhoun and Merriman. The last comparison (Merriman and Calhoun) Calhoun has at least 2.5-3 cm more than Boris had on Haysbert which is only about a cm if anything
Canson said on 25/Jan/18
@Checker: that would prob be about a full 2â with the better posture imho. I certainly donât agree with Andrea that thatâs only an inch and none of us 3 you me or Christian see that either. I think you can make an easy case however for 1.5-1.75â based on that with the poor posture and even then it lines up to a potential combine measurement as Merriman 6â2 3/8 and Calhoun being it was a morning measurement prob dips to 6â3 7/8 maybe 6â4. A worst case is that Merriman is the flat 6â2 and Calhoun a flat 6â4 or 6â3 7/8 if better posture. But Iâd say that either way thatâs more than a solid inch. Anyone can see that even with the bad posture and neck tilt
@Checker: that would prob be about a full 2â with the better posture imho. I certainly donât agree with Andrea that thatâs only an inch and none of us 3 you me or Christian see that either. I think you can make an easy case however for 1.5-1.75â based on that with the poor posture and even then it lines up to a potential combine measurement as Merriman 6â2 3/8 and Calhoun being it was a morning measurement prob dips to 6â3 7/8 maybe 6â4. A worst case is that Merriman is the flat 6â2 and Calhoun a flat 6â4 or 6â3 7/8 if better posture. But Iâd say that either way thatâs more than a solid inch. Anyone can see that even with the bad posture and neck tilt
checker said on 24/Jan/18
Calhoun looks 2 inches taller than Merriman, and would look 2.5 inches taller with better posture.
Calhoun looks 2 inches taller than Merriman, and would look 2.5 inches taller with better posture.
Canson said on 24/Jan/18
@Andrea: go ahead and ask Rob to retrieve the comments since youâre essentially âthreadingâ Christian with it. You seem like you have to be right and âhave to get the last wordâ when you said do we end it here. Obviously the only way your arguments here have any sort of strength is when you go and solicit Robâs or someone elseâs opinion for reassurance or when you run crying to him to intervene. You have to be ârightâ and it again proves both of our points that because Christian is once again not agreeing with you you are getting angry. Nobody cares honestly. Btw where do you get Calhoun only having an inch on Merriman? You say we canât estimate height differences youâre really one to talk. Funny that I am not calling you a liar though despite the fact that three of us here all say itâs more than that yet if that were you, you would be calling me a liar like you have done repeatedly here or dumb like you did on Wayne Bradyâs page when I didnât see the same thing âyou didâ. Youâre just full of excuses and full of sh*t. You donât fool anyone
@Andrea: go ahead and ask Rob to retrieve the comments since youâre essentially âthreadingâ Christian with it. You seem like you have to be right and âhave to get the last wordâ when you said do we end it here. Obviously the only way your arguments here have any sort of strength is when you go and solicit Robâs or someone elseâs opinion for reassurance or when you run crying to him to intervene. You have to be ârightâ and it again proves both of our points that because Christian is once again not agreeing with you you are getting angry. Nobody cares honestly. Btw where do you get Calhoun only having an inch on Merriman? You say we canât estimate height differences youâre really one to talk. Funny that I am not calling you a liar though despite the fact that three of us here all say itâs more than that yet if that were you, you would be calling me a liar like you have done repeatedly here or dumb like you did on Wayne Bradyâs page when I didnât see the same thing âyou didâ. Youâre just full of excuses and full of sh*t. You donât fool anyone
Andrea said on 24/Jan/18
You are the one who doesn't pay attention to things, Christian. I brought up the prostitute thing right after you and Canson started to play the victim and that happened on 29/Oct/17. Before then, I'd NEVER mentioned it and I'm pretty sure about that, despite you saying that I did (which is just another lie). You want me to ask Rob to retrieve the older comments on that page too or we end it here? :)
And when it comes to alleged meetings it's not all about "they're telling the truth or not". As I said, there are many variables. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Most of the time, you can't answer to all these questions, which is the reason why they are not evidence to me. Speaking of Jared, I completely rule out 6'3 for him. And unlike you, I treat Jared being 6'3 the same way I treat Boris being 6'3. It's not a surprise that they look very similar next to this presenter, in fact: Click Here Click Here
And what I said is not an excuse, but I'm certainly not surprised that you call it that way, just like I said. I'm certainly not trying to say that the only reason why Shawne can look as low as 6'2-6'3 is because of that. All I said is that there are some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys. That picture with Shilique Calhoun actually proves my point, considering that Shawne looks maybe around an inch shorter than him there. So, if anything, you are a walking contradiction, LOL.
As for Boris, I can say whatever I want. If I want to say that I would bet all of my money that he would be comfortably taller than 6'3, I say it. And I already explained why. I have certainly seen enough to completely rule it out and nothing that suggests that 6'3 is even remotely possible (not even by 1%). The same goes for me saying that if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And for the last time, my 6'5 mention for Boris was closely related to those guys' listings (Kevin Durand, Kim Coates and Dennis Haysbert). It is certainly hard to believe that Boris is as low as 6'4 if those guys are as tall as their listings (and I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now).
And yeah, I did say that you have no clue about height differences there because not only you insisted that there is a clear 2 inches differences when there's really not, but you also insisted that that picture with Kobe was the definite proof that Boris can't be any taller than 6'2.75. Funny how even in that picture you have posted (in comments like the ones you submitted on 26/Aug/17 and on 28/Aug/17), you can see what I was talking about when I said that you're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and and by calling my estimate "BS" (or joke in that case), even though I was referring to some older comments, still on Idris Elba's page, which is where all this discussion started. So again, don't even try to pin it on me.
You are the one who doesn't pay attention to things, Christian. I brought up the prostitute thing right after you and Canson started to play the victim and that happened on 29/Oct/17. Before then, I'd NEVER mentioned it and I'm pretty sure about that, despite you saying that I did (which is just another lie). You want me to ask Rob to retrieve the older comments on that page too or we end it here? :)
And when it comes to alleged meetings it's not all about "they're telling the truth or not". As I said, there are many variables. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met this or that celebrity in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Most of the time, you can't answer to all these questions, which is the reason why they are not evidence to me. Speaking of Jared, I completely rule out 6'3 for him. And unlike you, I treat Jared being 6'3 the same way I treat Boris being 6'3. It's not a surprise that they look very similar next to this presenter, in fact: Click Here Click Here
And what I said is not an excuse, but I'm certainly not surprised that you call it that way, just like I said. I'm certainly not trying to say that the only reason why Shawne can look as low as 6'2-6'3 is because of that. All I said is that there are some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys. That picture with Shilique Calhoun actually proves my point, considering that Shawne looks maybe around an inch shorter than him there. So, if anything, you are a walking contradiction, LOL.
As for Boris, I can say whatever I want. If I want to say that I would bet all of my money that he would be comfortably taller than 6'3, I say it. And I already explained why. I have certainly seen enough to completely rule it out and nothing that suggests that 6'3 is even remotely possible (not even by 1%). The same goes for me saying that if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And for the last time, my 6'5 mention for Boris was closely related to those guys' listings (Kevin Durand, Kim Coates and Dennis Haysbert). It is certainly hard to believe that Boris is as low as 6'4 if those guys are as tall as their listings (and I'm sure that in the past all three were listed even higher than they are now).
And yeah, I did say that you have no clue about height differences there because not only you insisted that there is a clear 2 inches differences when there's really not, but you also insisted that that picture with Kobe was the definite proof that Boris can't be any taller than 6'2.75. Funny how even in that picture you have posted (in comments like the ones you submitted on 26/Aug/17 and on 28/Aug/17), you can see what I was talking about when I said that you're the one who started it by saying that I just want Boris to be 6'4 and and by calling my estimate "BS" (or joke in that case), even though I was referring to some older comments, still on Idris Elba's page, which is where all this discussion started. So again, don't even try to pin it on me.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 23/Jan/18
@Andrea
You don't pay attention to things at all. I didn't lie about that. You brought up the prostitute thing quite while after Canson called you one on on RAY FISHER'S page. And that was right before I brought up the boyfriend thing on Boris Kodjoe's page. I already admitted that I brought up the boyfriend thing, but that was AFTER you brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute, so I didn't lie. Sure, you mentioned it on 29/Oct/17, but you also mentioned it once before on Ray's page, even before 6/Oct/17.
And while a post from one guy saying Jared's 6'3" in person isn't enough, you should't completely rule out 6'3" for Jared either. I treat Jared being 6'3" the same way I treat Boris being 6'4". Both are highly unlikely, but not impossible. And I'm not saying you should believe every person who claimed to met a celeb, because I don't know if that guy was telling the truth or not, but in Boris's and Shawne's case, I doubt that the people who claimed to met them were lying because they look the height they were guessed at in some pics, and in Shawne's case, he was measured a height (6'2 3/8") that's similar to how he was guessed at. (6'2")
And what's you said is definitely an excuse because you try to use that "There are definitely some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys" thing to say that Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" or 6'2" in some pics because of that. So if what you said is true, explain why the 6'4 3/8" measured football player Shilique Calhoun's around 1.75" taller than Shawne Click Here Click Here so I guess Shawne was standing bad in that pic, right? (even though it goes against what you said because according to you, Shawne stands bad only when he's with someone that's shorter than him, but you can clearly see in the pic that Shawne's not standing badly, in fact, he has slightly better posture than Shilique) This is why I call you a walking contradiction.
I can respect your confidence that you completely rule out 6'3" for Boris, but don't say stupid stuff like you'll bet all of your money, or you'll never come back to this site out of embarassment if Boris turns out to be 6'3" if Rob meets him. And I'm not being contradictory if I strongly believe he's 6'3", but there's a small posibility he might be 6'4". Think of it this way, I'm 99% sure he's 6'3", but 1% of me believes he's 6'4". And I didn't take it out of context. I know you mentioned that Haysbert, Durand etc. could be shorter than listed, but you also clearly said that 6'5" was a possibility. Click Here
And you're a total liar. This debate got heated as soon as you said that I had no clue about height differences Click Here and it wasn't directed towards Canson, you clearly directed it towards me because you were replying to me. And even after that, my response wasn't directed towards you as you can see. It was about how much Boris was looking shorter than Kobe and Jordan, but you kept on using ad hominem fallacies. That's why this discussion got so heated and prolonged. And you love to accuse me of using the "I'm good and you're bad" card, but it's the truth. You're the one who started all of this.
@Andrea
You don't pay attention to things at all. I didn't lie about that. You brought up the prostitute thing quite while after Canson called you one on on RAY FISHER'S page. And that was right before I brought up the boyfriend thing on Boris Kodjoe's page. I already admitted that I brought up the boyfriend thing, but that was AFTER you brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute, so I didn't lie. Sure, you mentioned it on 29/Oct/17, but you also mentioned it once before on Ray's page, even before 6/Oct/17.
And while a post from one guy saying Jared's 6'3" in person isn't enough, you should't completely rule out 6'3" for Jared either. I treat Jared being 6'3" the same way I treat Boris being 6'4". Both are highly unlikely, but not impossible. And I'm not saying you should believe every person who claimed to met a celeb, because I don't know if that guy was telling the truth or not, but in Boris's and Shawne's case, I doubt that the people who claimed to met them were lying because they look the height they were guessed at in some pics, and in Shawne's case, he was measured a height (6'2 3/8") that's similar to how he was guessed at. (6'2")
And what's you said is definitely an excuse because you try to use that "There are definitely some guys who naturally stand worse with shorter guys and better with taller guys" thing to say that Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" or 6'2" in some pics because of that. So if what you said is true, explain why the 6'4 3/8" measured football player Shilique Calhoun's around 1.75" taller than Shawne Click Here Click Here so I guess Shawne was standing bad in that pic, right? (even though it goes against what you said because according to you, Shawne stands bad only when he's with someone that's shorter than him, but you can clearly see in the pic that Shawne's not standing badly, in fact, he has slightly better posture than Shilique) This is why I call you a walking contradiction.
I can respect your confidence that you completely rule out 6'3" for Boris, but don't say stupid stuff like you'll bet all of your money, or you'll never come back to this site out of embarassment if Boris turns out to be 6'3" if Rob meets him. And I'm not being contradictory if I strongly believe he's 6'3", but there's a small posibility he might be 6'4". Think of it this way, I'm 99% sure he's 6'3", but 1% of me believes he's 6'4". And I didn't take it out of context. I know you mentioned that Haysbert, Durand etc. could be shorter than listed, but you also clearly said that 6'5" was a possibility. Click Here
And you're a total liar. This debate got heated as soon as you said that I had no clue about height differences Click Here and it wasn't directed towards Canson, you clearly directed it towards me because you were replying to me. And even after that, my response wasn't directed towards you as you can see. It was about how much Boris was looking shorter than Kobe and Jordan, but you kept on using ad hominem fallacies. That's why this discussion got so heated and prolonged. And you love to accuse me of using the "I'm good and you're bad" card, but it's the truth. You're the one who started all of this.
Canson said on 22/Jan/18
@Christian: not to mention Dirk is leaning. I canât see him over a flat 6â3 in that pic perhaps a touch less but you said it well âabout 6â3â
@Christian: not to mention Dirk is leaning. I canât see him over a flat 6â3 in that pic perhaps a touch less but you said it well âabout 6â3â
Canson said on 22/Jan/18
@Rob: looking at the article it could be because of his position that he played or couldâve been a legitimate error. He would be on the small side for a defensive lineman at 6â2 but would be good for a LB which he ultimately played. Maybe the uncertainty was why that happened. Or it couldâve been data set issue where maybe he was 6â2 3/8 and they said 6â4 3/8. That happens a lot In the NBA where shoe heights go into barefoot column. Iâm willing to bet money Dwayne Wade is not âalmost 6â4â and also am willing to bet that those were not Morning measurements. Iâve played ball with some of the guys that were drafted and their heights are closely mirrored in person such as Keith Bogans and have met Kirk Hinrich and Carmelo Anthony. Both looked close to their draft heights. Hinrich could be 6â2.5 but close enough whereas Melo looked about right. Another one was TJ ford who looked shorter. He looked more 5â10 than 5â11 but I didnât pay attention to footwear possibly.
@Rob: looking at the article it could be because of his position that he played or couldâve been a legitimate error. He would be on the small side for a defensive lineman at 6â2 but would be good for a LB which he ultimately played. Maybe the uncertainty was why that happened. Or it couldâve been data set issue where maybe he was 6â2 3/8 and they said 6â4 3/8. That happens a lot In the NBA where shoe heights go into barefoot column. Iâm willing to bet money Dwayne Wade is not âalmost 6â4â and also am willing to bet that those were not Morning measurements. Iâve played ball with some of the guys that were drafted and their heights are closely mirrored in person such as Keith Bogans and have met Kirk Hinrich and Carmelo Anthony. Both looked close to their draft heights. Hinrich could be 6â2.5 but close enough whereas Melo looked about right. Another one was TJ ford who looked shorter. He looked more 5â10 than 5â11 but I didnât pay attention to footwear possibly.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 21/Jan/18
Boris looks about 6'3" next to 6'11" Dirk Nowitzki Click Here and 6'9.75" listed John Isner with visible footwear Click Here
Boris looks about 6'3" next to 6'11" Dirk Nowitzki Click Here and 6'9.75" listed John Isner with visible footwear Click Here
Canson said on 20/Jan/18
@Checker: thatâs likely a morning height for Calhoun as well. Thatâs his combine measurement meaning probably a flat 6â4â
@Checker: thatâs likely a morning height for Calhoun as well. Thatâs his combine measurement meaning probably a flat 6â4â
Canson said on 20/Jan/18
@Checker: the worst case scenario for Vernon and Shawne is that Vernon is half inch taller. Best case is an inch. I only say that because of where both measured. If Shawne is somehow 6â2.5 or 6â2 3/8 at a low and Vernon is about 6â3. When I met Vernon it looked about 3cm (1-1.5â). I would say he looked solid 6â3 but seeing as how he measured 6â3.25 in the AM maybe 6â2 7/8 as a worst case as that wonât look any different really. But I would say Vernon is 6â3 since itâs close enough like my friend who looked the same standing next to me and dips to 190.3-.4. Shawne according to a friend who met him said 6â2ish. Not as tall as the 6â3 friend
@Checker: the worst case scenario for Vernon and Shawne is that Vernon is half inch taller. Best case is an inch. I only say that because of where both measured. If Shawne is somehow 6â2.5 or 6â2 3/8 at a low and Vernon is about 6â3. When I met Vernon it looked about 3cm (1-1.5â). I would say he looked solid 6â3 but seeing as how he measured 6â3.25 in the AM maybe 6â2 7/8 as a worst case as that wonât look any different really. But I would say Vernon is 6â3 since itâs close enough like my friend who looked the same standing next to me and dips to 190.3-.4. Shawne according to a friend who met him said 6â2ish. Not as tall as the 6â3 friend
Canson said on 19/Jan/18
thereâs no way that Merriman is 3â taller than Ray Lewis. Thatâs hardly 2â between them. Ray measured 6â0.6 at his draft 6â 5/8 or 6â 3/4
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thereâs no way that Merriman is 3â taller than Ray Lewis. Thatâs hardly 2â between them. Ray measured 6â0.6 at his draft 6â 5/8 or 6â 3/4
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checker said on 19/Jan/18
6'3 Vernon is simply taller than 6'2 Merriman because of a bigger forehead. Click Here
6'3 Vernon is simply taller than 6'2 Merriman because of a bigger forehead. Click Here
Canson said on 19/Jan/18
@Andrea: that comment about being called a troll that you made being a compliment makes no sense at all. Sounds like you are putting up a front now like you have all of this time. And no I donât believe you are a troll. Youâre just very stubborn and arrogant like Christian said and that comment along with others only validates it. I can respect that youâd put money down as that at least shows youâre confident but when you said you would never return to this site out of embarrassment shows that itâs all a front. And you want to bring up age youâre very childish the way you run to Rob for everything and accuse others of lying when they donât agree with you so you just proved every point Christian and I have said. You run to Rob the same way a child would when he feels he is being bullied or worse if he is spoiled and feels he isnât getting his way. đ You have to prove âChristianâs hypocrisy and untruthfulnessâ? Sorry but you didnât prove a thing. And what does attempting to do that have to do with Boris being 6â4 or not? Sorry but that doesnât change his height. Absolutely nothing. And He wasnât untruthful and he surely isnât a hypocrite like you are accusing both of us of the things you do such as trusting someone elseâs estimates only when they are convenient enough to fit your narrative of course or not trusting them when you donât think they fit it. and having to run to others for reassurance solely because you lack confidence. Or calling someone a liar because their estimates donât coincide with yours or making your opinions or estimates a fact when theyâre just an opinion. People see things differently. Just as you accused me of lying about Brady being 4 or so inches shorter (which to me he looked at times). You did the same saying Merriman is only one inch shorter than Barkley. But of course no one else agrees with you or sees it that way. And truthfully the way people comment on Barkley they wonât do that. They would easily make Barkley 6â5.5 or 6â6â and just call it a 2â difference here since thatâs the minimum that it looks. Itâs funny you didnât include your height lines there but you do it on other pics and itâs because you know itâs more than an inch. Go right ahead and try to compare that height difference to the one with Boris and Haysbert that you swear is 2cm đ. How do you see a 1â difference there but only a 2cm difference between Boris and Haysbert? I can compare the two and tell itâs a noticeable difference not just 1 cm between the kids. And You also claim to be clueless on shoes and how much they add yet when itâs convenient for you you comment on and make an excuse about Barkleyâs to again diminish the difference between he and Boris yet with Kobe there is an obvious difference and you say it doesnât exist yet others here see it.
Ok so if you want to use your logic about someone lying because âheight differences are a factâ, then you are lying about the height difference with Boris and Kobe and also with Barkley and Merriman and with Boris and Barkley as you are the only person here saying the differences are what you call them while others here are saying that they are exactly what Christian and I said which look more factual. But no it doesnât work that way with you. The only things that are fact are the ones that you believe are. Everything else that you donât believe or that doesnât support your narrative is either a lie, stupid, or an opinion.
@Andrea: that comment about being called a troll that you made being a compliment makes no sense at all. Sounds like you are putting up a front now like you have all of this time. And no I donât believe you are a troll. Youâre just very stubborn and arrogant like Christian said and that comment along with others only validates it. I can respect that youâd put money down as that at least shows youâre confident but when you said you would never return to this site out of embarrassment shows that itâs all a front. And you want to bring up age youâre very childish the way you run to Rob for everything and accuse others of lying when they donât agree with you so you just proved every point Christian and I have said. You run to Rob the same way a child would when he feels he is being bullied or worse if he is spoiled and feels he isnât getting his way. đ You have to prove âChristianâs hypocrisy and untruthfulnessâ? Sorry but you didnât prove a thing. And what does attempting to do that have to do with Boris being 6â4 or not? Sorry but that doesnât change his height. Absolutely nothing. And He wasnât untruthful and he surely isnât a hypocrite like you are accusing both of us of the things you do such as trusting someone elseâs estimates only when they are convenient enough to fit your narrative of course or not trusting them when you donât think they fit it. and having to run to others for reassurance solely because you lack confidence. Or calling someone a liar because their estimates donât coincide with yours or making your opinions or estimates a fact when theyâre just an opinion. People see things differently. Just as you accused me of lying about Brady being 4 or so inches shorter (which to me he looked at times). You did the same saying Merriman is only one inch shorter than Barkley. But of course no one else agrees with you or sees it that way. And truthfully the way people comment on Barkley they wonât do that. They would easily make Barkley 6â5.5 or 6â6â and just call it a 2â difference here since thatâs the minimum that it looks. Itâs funny you didnât include your height lines there but you do it on other pics and itâs because you know itâs more than an inch. Go right ahead and try to compare that height difference to the one with Boris and Haysbert that you swear is 2cm đ. How do you see a 1â difference there but only a 2cm difference between Boris and Haysbert? I can compare the two and tell itâs a noticeable difference not just 1 cm between the kids. And You also claim to be clueless on shoes and how much they add yet when itâs convenient for you you comment on and make an excuse about Barkleyâs to again diminish the difference between he and Boris yet with Kobe there is an obvious difference and you say it doesnât exist yet others here see it.
Ok so if you want to use your logic about someone lying because âheight differences are a factâ, then you are lying about the height difference with Boris and Kobe and also with Barkley and Merriman and with Boris and Barkley as you are the only person here saying the differences are what you call them while others here are saying that they are exactly what Christian and I said which look more factual. But no it doesnât work that way with you. The only things that are fact are the ones that you believe are. Everything else that you donât believe or that doesnât support your narrative is either a lie, stupid, or an opinion.
Andrea said on 18/Jan/18
And you still lie, Christian, even though the messages are there now, LOL. You did bring up the boyfriend thing on 6/Oct/2017, after over one month I came out with that, just like I said. Me, on the other hand, I never mentioned the prostitute thing because I never cared about it. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you started to play the victim. That's all!
And you said it right. You have no proof that Viper or Canson's friends really met Shawne, so we're talking about nothing. That's not evidence, hence why it makes no sense to bring them up as proof that Shawne is as tall as 6'2. And although it might be true that "just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris", that should still suggest that you can get a very good idea of how tall celebrities are if you see enough stuff of them. And for the record, I've seen a lot of Boris (probably more than any other celebrity at this point), so I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And I never said that the "fan site" measurements were made up, but being it a "fan site" increases the possibility of errors, in a sense.
Speaking of Shawne, as I said, I can appreciate how he can look as low as that at times (like he does with Ray Lewis, for example), but there are many other pictures with MEASURED athletes where he looks easily taller than that. One thing I've noticed is that he can look shorter next to shorter guys and taller next to taller guys (and by shorter and taller I don't necessarily mean shorter and taller than him). Maybe he's a guy who slouches around shorter guys and when he's around taller guys he stands taller...
And I know that you can be aware of camera angles and positions because I've seen you making some very good points on other pages (even though you calling camera angles "excuses" certainly doesn't work in your favour), but sometimes it doesn't seem like that on here. As I said, I would have never posted those pictures with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. or even those ones with Ray Lewis where, in your opinion, Boris could look as tall as 6'7 because they simply prove nothing, even if they are the only pictures with those people. And which are those good camera quality pictures where Boris looks as low as 6'2 or as high as 6'5+? As I said, I can see how he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 next to Akon and Jamie Foxx, but they're actually the only two pictures where he can look as low as that and in every other picture he looks comfortably over 6'3. 6'5+? I don't think he's ever looked as big as that with anyone, apart from, maybe, those celebrities who are probably a bit overlisted on here.
And it's not about being arrogant, but about being confident. As I said, I've seen enough to completely rule out 6'3. Just like I'd do with a guy like Jared Padalecki. That being said, I'll be honest and say that I wouldn't bet my money on him not being under 6'4 because there's always a possibility he dips a bit under, just like I wouldn't with the same Jared, although I personally wouldn't put any of them at anything under 6'4. And none of those two people you have mentioned are actually "confirmed and measured". Barkley's 6'4 5/8 "measurement" is just a mention in one article and Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement isn't less reliable than the other 6'4 3/8 measurement, apart from the former appearing only on a "fan site", like Couchscout seems to be. And I don't see how saying something like "I completely rule out 6'3 for Boris" is crazy. You yourself called my 6'4 estimate for Boris "BS" in the past, which is even crazier, and it goes to show that 1) you speak as if your estimates are the only good ones and 2) you're an hypocrite because you accuse me of the same thing (but we already knew that). And yeah, I wondered if 6'5 was possible in the past because he could look nearer that mark with those guys I mentioned in that old message (that you have posted and probably even haven't read, apart from the first part), but, based on what I've seen now, I would safely rule it out and I think it's more the case of those other people being shorter than their listings, which is exactly what I said there, btw. Although I can see something like 192 as not being impossible next to Kobe and Barkley, I have to go with what he generally looks next to everybody else: a decent 6'4.
And who are these many posters I have discussions with that, according to you, dislike me? Rampage? Bennett or whatever his name was/is? Viper? LOL I swear it's hard, but I'll try to live with it. Speaking of that, do you really think that you are so liked on here? Last time I checked, more than one poster thought otherwise and a few of them specifically said that you are very disliked on here... And I'm glad that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, hypocrite on the site calls me the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history. I'd say it easily fits with his character. ;)
And you still lie, Christian, even though the messages are there now, LOL. You did bring up the boyfriend thing on 6/Oct/2017, after over one month I came out with that, just like I said. Me, on the other hand, I never mentioned the prostitute thing because I never cared about it. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you started to play the victim. That's all!
And you said it right. You have no proof that Viper or Canson's friends really met Shawne, so we're talking about nothing. That's not evidence, hence why it makes no sense to bring them up as proof that Shawne is as tall as 6'2. And although it might be true that "just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris", that should still suggest that you can get a very good idea of how tall celebrities are if you see enough stuff of them. And for the record, I've seen a lot of Boris (probably more than any other celebrity at this point), so I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities. And I never said that the "fan site" measurements were made up, but being it a "fan site" increases the possibility of errors, in a sense.
Speaking of Shawne, as I said, I can appreciate how he can look as low as that at times (like he does with Ray Lewis, for example), but there are many other pictures with MEASURED athletes where he looks easily taller than that. One thing I've noticed is that he can look shorter next to shorter guys and taller next to taller guys (and by shorter and taller I don't necessarily mean shorter and taller than him). Maybe he's a guy who slouches around shorter guys and when he's around taller guys he stands taller...
And I know that you can be aware of camera angles and positions because I've seen you making some very good points on other pages (even though you calling camera angles "excuses" certainly doesn't work in your favour), but sometimes it doesn't seem like that on here. As I said, I would have never posted those pictures with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. or even those ones with Ray Lewis where, in your opinion, Boris could look as tall as 6'7 because they simply prove nothing, even if they are the only pictures with those people. And which are those good camera quality pictures where Boris looks as low as 6'2 or as high as 6'5+? As I said, I can see how he can look as low as 6'2-6'3 next to Akon and Jamie Foxx, but they're actually the only two pictures where he can look as low as that and in every other picture he looks comfortably over 6'3. 6'5+? I don't think he's ever looked as big as that with anyone, apart from, maybe, those celebrities who are probably a bit overlisted on here.
And it's not about being arrogant, but about being confident. As I said, I've seen enough to completely rule out 6'3. Just like I'd do with a guy like Jared Padalecki. That being said, I'll be honest and say that I wouldn't bet my money on him not being under 6'4 because there's always a possibility he dips a bit under, just like I wouldn't with the same Jared, although I personally wouldn't put any of them at anything under 6'4. And none of those two people you have mentioned are actually "confirmed and measured". Barkley's 6'4 5/8 "measurement" is just a mention in one article and Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement isn't less reliable than the other 6'4 3/8 measurement, apart from the former appearing only on a "fan site", like Couchscout seems to be. And I don't see how saying something like "I completely rule out 6'3 for Boris" is crazy. You yourself called my 6'4 estimate for Boris "BS" in the past, which is even crazier, and it goes to show that 1) you speak as if your estimates are the only good ones and 2) you're an hypocrite because you accuse me of the same thing (but we already knew that). And yeah, I wondered if 6'5 was possible in the past because he could look nearer that mark with those guys I mentioned in that old message (that you have posted and probably even haven't read, apart from the first part), but, based on what I've seen now, I would safely rule it out and I think it's more the case of those other people being shorter than their listings, which is exactly what I said there, btw. Although I can see something like 192 as not being impossible next to Kobe and Barkley, I have to go with what he generally looks next to everybody else: a decent 6'4.
And who are these many posters I have discussions with that, according to you, dislike me? Rampage? Bennett or whatever his name was/is? Viper? LOL I swear it's hard, but I'll try to live with it. Speaking of that, do you really think that you are so liked on here? Last time I checked, more than one poster thought otherwise and a few of them specifically said that you are very disliked on here... And I'm glad that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, hypocrite on the site calls me the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history. I'd say it easily fits with his character. ;)
Canson said on 18/Jan/18
@Christian: you meant Senior Bowl where he measured that but youâre absolutely right. And I donât get why Andrea can call me a liar or you or accuse us of not being able to differentiate height differences when he can say that thereâs a 1â diff with Merriman and Barkley or that Barkley has a footwear advantage (after he claimed he knew nothing about shoes in previous posts) or that Kobe has 3cm on Boris but Boris has â2cm on Haysbertâ when there is a noticeable difference between the two pics. Then use all of that as a fact when it is clearly an opinion. I mean key point here is (which actually is a fact). You have a few people who have jumped in and disagreed with him so obviously it had the possibility of not being true or else everyone would be agreeing with him. Not saying it is or isnât because we donât know but I would be my own money that Barkley and Merriman at least are accurate enough (within realm)
@Christian: you meant Senior Bowl where he measured that but youâre absolutely right. And I donât get why Andrea can call me a liar or you or accuse us of not being able to differentiate height differences when he can say that thereâs a 1â diff with Merriman and Barkley or that Barkley has a footwear advantage (after he claimed he knew nothing about shoes in previous posts) or that Kobe has 3cm on Boris but Boris has â2cm on Haysbertâ when there is a noticeable difference between the two pics. Then use all of that as a fact when it is clearly an opinion. I mean key point here is (which actually is a fact). You have a few people who have jumped in and disagreed with him so obviously it had the possibility of not being true or else everyone would be agreeing with him. Not saying it is or isnât because we donât know but I would be my own money that Barkley and Merriman at least are accurate enough (within realm)
Andrea said on 18/Jan/18
And this guy is supposed to be 36??? đđđ
Funny how he keeps proving everything I've already said about him...
And now tell me, Canson, where did I run to Rob now? You know, I'm trying to improve my hacking skills, but I still can't access celebheights database for some reason... đ˘ That's why I had to ask Rob to retrieve the old comments to finally expose Christian's untruthfulness and hypocrisy. đ I swear I'm studying though, so, Rob, pay some serious attention to your site's security because next time I might do it by myself! đ
P.S. Getting called troll by Viper is kinda an achievement! đ
And this guy is supposed to be 36??? đđđ
Funny how he keeps proving everything I've already said about him...
And now tell me, Canson, where did I run to Rob now? You know, I'm trying to improve my hacking skills, but I still can't access celebheights database for some reason... đ˘ That's why I had to ask Rob to retrieve the old comments to finally expose Christian's untruthfulness and hypocrisy. đ I swear I'm studying though, so, Rob, pay some serious attention to your site's security because next time I might do it by myself! đ
P.S. Getting called troll by Viper is kinda an achievement! đ
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 18/Jan/18
@Andrea
I didn't lie. I actually did bring up the boyfriend thing after you whined about Canson calling you a prostitute, but the comment was on Ray Fisher's page, which got pushed down.
And just because I don't have actual proof that Viper and an associate of Canson's met Shawne, doesn't automatically negate them. The only proof I have is to take their words for it. And just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris.
And if you think that the "fan site" measurements were made up, they're actual sources that come from NFL's database. For example, Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement came from the 2006 Pro Bowl. So it's legit as far as I'm concerned.
And if you wanna believe that Shawne's only an inch shorter than Barkley despite the pic showing otherwise, then go right ahead. I believe that Vernon's taller than Shawne despite the two pics you provided showing otherwise, but I have a good reason for it. Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" range with other people, not only with Barkley. But Vernon on the other hand, looks legit 6'3" in many of the pics, although there are a few times where he can look taller or shorter than that.
And I'm pretty aware of camera angles and positions contrary to what you think. Whenever I post pics with rather poor camera positioning, it's only because I wasn't able to find any other pics of Boris with the same person. For example, the pics with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. If I was able to find other pics with the same people involved with better camera positioning, I would've posted those instead. And unlike you, I don't make excuses and blame it on camera angles or lifts or even worse tiptoes whenever Boris looks 6'4". But you often make those same excuses whenever he looks below it. I know there are good camera quality pics where Boris looks 6'4", but there are others with just as good camera quality where he looks 6'2" or 6'3" or 6'5"+.
And are you that arrogant as to where you'll completely rule out 6'3" for Boris and even bet all of your money? As much as I doubt he's legit 6'4", there's always still a very slim chance IMO that he actually may be that tall. I'm not gonna completely rule it out. Just like I'll never completely rule out heights for other celebs, that's if unless that person was measured, as in the case with 6'4 5/8" Barkley and 6'2.4" Merriman. They were measured at those respective heights so they can't be higher than that. You just exactly proved my point when I say that you present your opinions as if they were facts. Otherwise you would've never said anything crazy like you're completely ruling out 6'3" for Boris. And another crazy thing is that 6'3" is impossible according to you, yet somehow 6'5" is a possibility? Click Here Mind you that 6'5" is just as far from 6'4" as 6'3" is. And you wonder why a lot of posters whom you have discussions with dislike you. You're the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history.
@Andrea
I didn't lie. I actually did bring up the boyfriend thing after you whined about Canson calling you a prostitute, but the comment was on Ray Fisher's page, which got pushed down.
And just because I don't have actual proof that Viper and an associate of Canson's met Shawne, doesn't automatically negate them. The only proof I have is to take their words for it. And just because your estimates for celebs supposedly turned out to be true when Rob met them, doesn't mean that it's going to be the case for Boris.
And if you think that the "fan site" measurements were made up, they're actual sources that come from NFL's database. For example, Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement came from the 2006 Pro Bowl. So it's legit as far as I'm concerned.
And if you wanna believe that Shawne's only an inch shorter than Barkley despite the pic showing otherwise, then go right ahead. I believe that Vernon's taller than Shawne despite the two pics you provided showing otherwise, but I have a good reason for it. Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3" range with other people, not only with Barkley. But Vernon on the other hand, looks legit 6'3" in many of the pics, although there are a few times where he can look taller or shorter than that.
And I'm pretty aware of camera angles and positions contrary to what you think. Whenever I post pics with rather poor camera positioning, it's only because I wasn't able to find any other pics of Boris with the same person. For example, the pics with Michael Jordan, Michael Jai White, The Game etc. If I was able to find other pics with the same people involved with better camera positioning, I would've posted those instead. And unlike you, I don't make excuses and blame it on camera angles or lifts or even worse tiptoes whenever Boris looks 6'4". But you often make those same excuses whenever he looks below it. I know there are good camera quality pics where Boris looks 6'4", but there are others with just as good camera quality where he looks 6'2" or 6'3" or 6'5"+.
And are you that arrogant as to where you'll completely rule out 6'3" for Boris and even bet all of your money? As much as I doubt he's legit 6'4", there's always still a very slim chance IMO that he actually may be that tall. I'm not gonna completely rule it out. Just like I'll never completely rule out heights for other celebs, that's if unless that person was measured, as in the case with 6'4 5/8" Barkley and 6'2.4" Merriman. They were measured at those respective heights so they can't be higher than that. You just exactly proved my point when I say that you present your opinions as if they were facts. Otherwise you would've never said anything crazy like you're completely ruling out 6'3" for Boris. And another crazy thing is that 6'3" is impossible according to you, yet somehow 6'5" is a possibility? Click Here Mind you that 6'5" is just as far from 6'4" as 6'3" is. And you wonder why a lot of posters whom you have discussions with dislike you. You're the biggest walking contradiction in Celebheights history.
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I donât think he is a troll. Iâll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as Iâve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I donât think heâll admit if heâs wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be â6â3 or underâ that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I donât agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6â3â and Bobby why our estimates âlack credibilityâ for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he âthought we were reasonable but I guess notâ. Meaning because we didnât agree with him was how I perceived it and thatâs how it looks to anyone else. Iâll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6â4â but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his arenât. Itâs the ultra lame childish and sorry excuses he makes for everything and the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didnât let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last post, Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is âsubtlyâ fishing for someone to âassure himâ that Boris is 6â4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isnât much more to say at this stage.
@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I donât think he is a troll. Iâll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as Iâve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I donât think heâll admit if heâs wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be â6â3 or underâ that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I donât agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6â3â and Bobby why our estimates âlack credibilityâ for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he âthought we were reasonable but I guess notâ. Meaning because we didnât agree with him was how I perceived it and thatâs how it looks to anyone else. Iâll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6â4â but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his arenât. Itâs the ultra lame childish and sorry excuses he makes for everything and the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didnât let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last post, Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is âsubtlyâ fishing for someone to âassure himâ that Boris is 6â4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isnât much more to say at this stage.
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I donât think he is a troll. Iâll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as Iâve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I donât think heâll admit if heâs wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be â6â3 or underâ that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I donât agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6â3â and Bobby why our estimates âlack credibilityâ for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he âthought we were reasonable but I guess notâ. Meaning because we didnât agree with him was how I perceived it and thatâs how it looks to anyone else. Iâll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6â4â but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his arenât. Itâs the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didnât let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last llatZ Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is âsubtlyâ fishing for someone to âassure himâ that Boris is 6â4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isnât much more to say at this stage.
@Checker: as much as I disagree and dislike Andrea I donât think he is a troll. Iâll be fair and give credit where it is due. But as Iâve maintained all along I think just incredibly stubborn as you said and I donât think heâll admit if heâs wrong. He also mentioned once that if Boris turned out to be â6â3 or underâ that he would never return to this site out of pure embarrassment. Anyone here who has either provided an estimate below his satisfaction or even met the guy in person Andrea has either criticized the estimate or told them no disrespect but I donât agree. The latter is perfectly fine and diplomatic and the way that it should be done honestly but then there is the situation with you Me Christian Mr R Bennett 6â3â and Bobby why our estimates âlack credibilityâ for one reason or another. Not to mention he told me and Christian as well that he âthought we were reasonable but I guess notâ. Meaning because we didnât agree with him was how I perceived it and thatâs how it looks to anyone else. Iâll give him his credit he found pics where he looks 6â4â but when Christian or I post a pic it is no good when more than half of his arenât. Itâs the hypocrite sh*t that he pulls if you see the older comments especially that Rob posted. Christian dared him and Andrea didnât let us down running to Rob once again as a little child in the last llatZ Not to mention he has run to Rob close to a dozen other (at least) times now and had to run to posters on other pages such as Chi McBride Tyler Perry and John Cena (to name a few) to get reassurance. You can see his comments on those pages where he is âsubtlyâ fishing for someone to âassure himâ that Boris is 6â4 or looks it with those guys. I mean there really isnât much more to say at this stage.
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
@Andrea: in my f*cked up mind Andrea? And Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. And you speak like you have authority here and telling us what we have to believe and post? if you want to really hear about yourself. You say youâre dealing with kids? Who just ran to Rob because he canât defend himself in an argument he started? You are a very immature poster and are a big immature child. Ill give you credit tho you love running to Rob donât you? You didnât see Christian or I do that. And no one here cares who posted what first between you and Christian or me. You brought it up not us. Yet itâs ok for you to tell us âwe canât estimate height or are stupid because we donât agree with you. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you donât see either of us doing that but you have to for everything. And the comment calling us boyfriends is end of August that was quite some time ago. The posts following that prove Christians point once again.
What do you mean please donât say Viper? Well you were the one who used Viperâs 6â4â estimate of Boris with Magic as evidence that heâs 6â4â. Now though because he says heâs shorter and because Merriman is not the height that would make Boris 6â4â we all of a sudden have to âtake his estimates with a grain of saltâ. So if Rising Force had met Merriman however, then and estimated him 6â4â and could be completely off you would use that as evidence tho of course. We know you well. You use whatever fits your narrative and criticize anyone elseâs opinion that doesnât as we are all aware of. You say that we âcanât estimate height difference all because something doesnât line up with your estimateâ. Not an entire group here just you saying it. So you for some reason carry more weight than others though? Youâre a joke
@Andrea: in my f*cked up mind Andrea? And Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. And you speak like you have authority here and telling us what we have to believe and post? if you want to really hear about yourself. You say youâre dealing with kids? Who just ran to Rob because he canât defend himself in an argument he started? You are a very immature poster and are a big immature child. Ill give you credit tho you love running to Rob donât you? You didnât see Christian or I do that. And no one here cares who posted what first between you and Christian or me. You brought it up not us. Yet itâs ok for you to tell us âwe canât estimate height or are stupid because we donât agree with you. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you donât see either of us doing that but you have to for everything. And the comment calling us boyfriends is end of August that was quite some time ago. The posts following that prove Christians point once again.
What do you mean please donât say Viper? Well you were the one who used Viperâs 6â4â estimate of Boris with Magic as evidence that heâs 6â4â. Now though because he says heâs shorter and because Merriman is not the height that would make Boris 6â4â we all of a sudden have to âtake his estimates with a grain of saltâ. So if Rising Force had met Merriman however, then and estimated him 6â4â and could be completely off you would use that as evidence tho of course. We know you well. You use whatever fits your narrative and criticize anyone elseâs opinion that doesnât as we are all aware of. You say that we âcanât estimate height difference all because something doesnât line up with your estimateâ. Not an entire group here just you saying it. So you for some reason carry more weight than others though? Youâre a joke
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
@Andrea: Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you donât see either of us doing that but you have to for everything
Editor Rob
@Andrea: Oh Lord end this argument really? The argument that you started and kept because nobody agrees with you lol. The only thing you exposed here is yourself for what Christian and I both said that you are a puppet and have no mind of your own. You just run to Rob all the time for everything. Funny you donât see either of us doing that but you have to for everything
Editor RobGuys, someone take the lead...this page has gone around in circles for months.
I can see how one person might think Boris is 6ft 3.25, another 6ft 4...we all have our opinions. Sometimes we have to accept we can never agree.
As for the Merriman, I might give him a page, but even I am not sure on the guy, it's a strange case.
I can see how one person might think Boris is 6ft 3.25, another 6ft 4...we all have our opinions. Sometimes we have to accept we can never agree.
As for the Merriman, I might give him a page, but even I am not sure on the guy, it's a strange case.
Andrea said on 17/Jan/18
Thanks, Rob. For Christian: you can now see that I came out with that boyfriend thing on 31/Aug/2017 and after over one month, precisely on 6/Oct/2017, you brought it up again, just like I said. According to you, that happened only after me bringing the prostitute thing up. I wouldn't say so, considering that there's no mention of it in any part of that old page. As I said, the only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. Before then, I never mentioned it because I couldn't care less, unlike you apparently. That being said, I can't wait for your next excuse because I'm sure you will find one...
P.S. I know that I brought the prostitute thing up on Ray Fisher's page, but it was right after you and Canson started to play the victim (Canson even tried to say my emojis are insulting at some point, LOL) and precisely on 29/Oct/17, so after 6/Oct/2017. Go check it yourself. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you started to say that it's just my opinion and that 6/Oct/2017 comes after 29/Oct/17 for some reason, LOL.
Thanks, Rob. For Christian: you can now see that I came out with that boyfriend thing on 31/Aug/2017 and after over one month, precisely on 6/Oct/2017, you brought it up again, just like I said. According to you, that happened only after me bringing the prostitute thing up. I wouldn't say so, considering that there's no mention of it in any part of that old page. As I said, the only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. Before then, I never mentioned it because I couldn't care less, unlike you apparently. That being said, I can't wait for your next excuse because I'm sure you will find one...
P.S. I know that I brought the prostitute thing up on Ray Fisher's page, but it was right after you and Canson started to play the victim (Canson even tried to say my emojis are insulting at some point, LOL) and precisely on 29/Oct/17, so after 6/Oct/2017. Go check it yourself. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if you started to say that it's just my opinion and that 6/Oct/2017 comes after 29/Oct/17 for some reason, LOL.
checker said on 17/Jan/18
Andrea, you calling Rudy Gay a liar for saying Merriman is 6'2, and with Merriman not denying it in his tweet back.
What in the world.
Andrea, you calling Rudy Gay a liar for saying Merriman is 6'2, and with Merriman not denying it in his tweet back.
What in the world.
checker said on 17/Jan/18
Andrea, NFL.com had Merriman at a measured 6'2 at his pro day. Click Here
And he looks no taller than 6'2 with Barkley. People who meet him say hes 6'2. Hes NOT 6'3. He was listed at 6'3 his first 2 years at Maryland.
Ive posted at least 4 pics of Merriman and Vernon together since 2007 and 6'3 Vernon looked taller in all of them.
Dont know why you are stubborn and trolling now.
Andrea, NFL.com had Merriman at a measured 6'2 at his pro day. Click Here
And he looks no taller than 6'2 with Barkley. People who meet him say hes 6'2. Hes NOT 6'3. He was listed at 6'3 his first 2 years at Maryland.
Ive posted at least 4 pics of Merriman and Vernon together since 2007 and 6'3 Vernon looked taller in all of them.
Dont know why you are stubborn and trolling now.
Andrea said on 17/Jan/18
In your fuc*ed up mind I'm sure it does, Canson. ;)
In your fuc*ed up mind I'm sure it does, Canson. ;)
Andrea said on 17/Jan/18
Rob, I know it's pretty stupid to ask, but since I'm dealing with kids, do you still have the old comments somewhere? So that I can finally end this argument and expose Christian's (already obvious) hypocrisy and untruthfulness... You see, Christian? Another difference between me and you is that if you refer to the old comments of mine (that are no longer here), I don't deny anything. You, on the other hand, take advantage of the fact that they got deleted and you lie, lie and lie.
As for people "meeting" celebrities, you haven't answered my questions. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? And please, don't say Viper. And saying that "you can't actually prove that Shawne and Boris are around 6'2" and 6'3" unless you meet them in person yourself" isn't really true. As I said, I've always gauged celebrities' heights from pictures and clips and basically all of those celebrities turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. Why do you think is that? Luck? Or maybe that "method" really works, if you know how to use it of course?
And yeah, Charles claiming a very precise 6'4.75 is quite curious, to say the least, if he really is taller than that, but saying that the chance of Barkley being 6'5.5 is almost zero is entirely your opinion and not completely true, considering that he can often look 6'5+. And Barkley at 6'4.75 wouldn't put Shawne under 6'2.75 there, so still taller than his 6-2.4 "measurement". The same 6-2.4 "measurement" which, as I said, comes from a "fan site", whether you like it or not. I tried to contact the owner of the site to have more info about it, but he still hasn't answered me. Anyway, this is how the owner himself described his site on FB, so I don't see how you can still say that it's not a "fan site": Click Here And you said it right. You don't know the time of measurements for any of those athletes, so everything you said is just speculation, no matter if, in your opinion, the NBA combine is typically earlier in the morning than NFL's.
And although it might be true that only two pictures of Shawne and Vernon isn't enough to conclude that Shawne is a weak 6'4, they seem enough to me to conclude that Shawne is taller than him (and certainly not shorter). And if you still say that Vernon is taller, despite those two pictures, I could easily say that in my opinion Barkley is no more than an inch taller than Shawne, despite the picture you have posted (which, btw, is only one picture, while my pictures are two). And if you had any clue about camera tricks, you would have never brought up that terrible picture of them or even tried to say that Vernon is taller than Shawne, based only on that. Even if that was the only pic you could find with the two... You have no idea of how many pictures I have discarded because of that. And this thing also relates to what you said about Shawne looking anywhere between 6'1 and 6'4 and Boris looking anywhere between 6'2 and 6'5+. If you are aware of camera angles, camera positions and camera advantages, it is certainly not true that they can look over such a huge range.
And I don't know which athletes of known heights and celebrities you're referring to, but you're completely free to buy Mr. R's estimate. I personally would completely rule it out, based on what I've seen (which is a lot), and I would bet all the money I have that he's easily taller than that...
Editor Rob
Rob, I know it's pretty stupid to ask, but since I'm dealing with kids, do you still have the old comments somewhere? So that I can finally end this argument and expose Christian's (already obvious) hypocrisy and untruthfulness... You see, Christian? Another difference between me and you is that if you refer to the old comments of mine (that are no longer here), I don't deny anything. You, on the other hand, take advantage of the fact that they got deleted and you lie, lie and lie.
As for people "meeting" celebrities, you haven't answered my questions. Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? And please, don't say Viper. And saying that "you can't actually prove that Shawne and Boris are around 6'2" and 6'3" unless you meet them in person yourself" isn't really true. As I said, I've always gauged celebrities' heights from pictures and clips and basically all of those celebrities turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. Why do you think is that? Luck? Or maybe that "method" really works, if you know how to use it of course?
And yeah, Charles claiming a very precise 6'4.75 is quite curious, to say the least, if he really is taller than that, but saying that the chance of Barkley being 6'5.5 is almost zero is entirely your opinion and not completely true, considering that he can often look 6'5+. And Barkley at 6'4.75 wouldn't put Shawne under 6'2.75 there, so still taller than his 6-2.4 "measurement". The same 6-2.4 "measurement" which, as I said, comes from a "fan site", whether you like it or not. I tried to contact the owner of the site to have more info about it, but he still hasn't answered me. Anyway, this is how the owner himself described his site on FB, so I don't see how you can still say that it's not a "fan site": Click Here And you said it right. You don't know the time of measurements for any of those athletes, so everything you said is just speculation, no matter if, in your opinion, the NBA combine is typically earlier in the morning than NFL's.
And although it might be true that only two pictures of Shawne and Vernon isn't enough to conclude that Shawne is a weak 6'4, they seem enough to me to conclude that Shawne is taller than him (and certainly not shorter). And if you still say that Vernon is taller, despite those two pictures, I could easily say that in my opinion Barkley is no more than an inch taller than Shawne, despite the picture you have posted (which, btw, is only one picture, while my pictures are two). And if you had any clue about camera tricks, you would have never brought up that terrible picture of them or even tried to say that Vernon is taller than Shawne, based only on that. Even if that was the only pic you could find with the two... You have no idea of how many pictures I have discarded because of that. And this thing also relates to what you said about Shawne looking anywhere between 6'1 and 6'4 and Boris looking anywhere between 6'2 and 6'5+. If you are aware of camera angles, camera positions and camera advantages, it is certainly not true that they can look over such a huge range.
And I don't know which athletes of known heights and celebrities you're referring to, but you're completely free to buy Mr. R's estimate. I personally would completely rule it out, based on what I've seen (which is a lot), and I would bet all the money I have that he's easily taller than that...
Editor RobAs a one off, this is from Nov 7th to the earliest Click Here.
Canson said on 17/Jan/18
@Andrea: exactly like I said in âmyâ last few posts about you. Exactly that defines and personifies you
@Andrea: exactly like I said in âmyâ last few posts about you. Exactly that defines and personifies you
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/Jan/18
@Andrea
If you don't believe me, ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if that's possible) since you're keep calling me a liar. I brought the boyfriend thing up a month later AFTER you brought the prostitute thing up to show your hypocrisy because you're no better.
And I never said that posters allegedly meeting celebs is evidence. Viper and Canson's acquaintance both said they met Shawne and said he looked 6'2" and shorter than 6'3" respectively. I'm not using those as solid evidence, but rather a clue that Shawne's around 6'2". Just as I've done with Boris. You can't actually prove that Shawne and Boris are around 6'2" and 6'3" unless you meet them in person yourself, so the closest thing to evidence is by way of pics, clips, or reading people's posts about claiming to have met them.
And sorry but if a guy claims 6'4.75" at least twice, there's a very good chance of him not being any taller than that. Let's be honest, the chance of Barkley being 6'5.5" is almost zero. It makes no sense for a 6'5.5" basketball player to claim 6'4.75" especially being that taller is seen as better in basketball. I believe he was being honest with his claim. Barkley at 6'4.75" would put Shawne at best 6'2.5", which is very similar to how he measured at the Pro Bowl at 6'2 3/8". Btw, it's an official measurement by the NFL, not some "fan site" like you claim. And I know the time of measurements is speculation, but the NBA combine is typically earlier in the morning than NFL's. There's a greater chance for a NBA player to get measured an inch higher than their lowest heights (especially with NBA rounding up 1/8" fractions) than for a NFL player to get measured 3/4" taller than his lowest.
And I never disregarded the two pics you posted with Shawne and Vernon. I think they're alright pics, although only two pics with Shawne looking taller than 6'3" Vernon isn't enough to conclude that Shawne's weak 6'4", as there are many pics where Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3". And I used the pic with Shawne and Vernon that Checker/Viper posted as a hint that Shawne's shorter than Vernon (which the camera angle's not that good), because at the time it was the only pic I could find with the two. But I still stand by my opinion that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne. And like just about any other celeb, they're gonna look taller or shorter in certain pics. There are some pics where Shawne looks as short as 6'1" and others tall as 6'4". Just like some pics where Vernon looks below 6'2" and others over 6'4". And just like some pics where Boris looks 6'2" and others 6'5"+.
And I have no reason to doubt Mr. R's 6'3.25" estimate for Boris because he looks around that height next to athletes of known heights and as well as some celebs.
@Andrea
If you don't believe me, ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if that's possible) since you're keep calling me a liar. I brought the boyfriend thing up a month later AFTER you brought the prostitute thing up to show your hypocrisy because you're no better.
And I never said that posters allegedly meeting celebs is evidence. Viper and Canson's acquaintance both said they met Shawne and said he looked 6'2" and shorter than 6'3" respectively. I'm not using those as solid evidence, but rather a clue that Shawne's around 6'2". Just as I've done with Boris. You can't actually prove that Shawne and Boris are around 6'2" and 6'3" unless you meet them in person yourself, so the closest thing to evidence is by way of pics, clips, or reading people's posts about claiming to have met them.
And sorry but if a guy claims 6'4.75" at least twice, there's a very good chance of him not being any taller than that. Let's be honest, the chance of Barkley being 6'5.5" is almost zero. It makes no sense for a 6'5.5" basketball player to claim 6'4.75" especially being that taller is seen as better in basketball. I believe he was being honest with his claim. Barkley at 6'4.75" would put Shawne at best 6'2.5", which is very similar to how he measured at the Pro Bowl at 6'2 3/8". Btw, it's an official measurement by the NFL, not some "fan site" like you claim. And I know the time of measurements is speculation, but the NBA combine is typically earlier in the morning than NFL's. There's a greater chance for a NBA player to get measured an inch higher than their lowest heights (especially with NBA rounding up 1/8" fractions) than for a NFL player to get measured 3/4" taller than his lowest.
And I never disregarded the two pics you posted with Shawne and Vernon. I think they're alright pics, although only two pics with Shawne looking taller than 6'3" Vernon isn't enough to conclude that Shawne's weak 6'4", as there are many pics where Shawne looks 6'2"-6'3". And I used the pic with Shawne and Vernon that Checker/Viper posted as a hint that Shawne's shorter than Vernon (which the camera angle's not that good), because at the time it was the only pic I could find with the two. But I still stand by my opinion that Vernon's actually taller than Shawne. And like just about any other celeb, they're gonna look taller or shorter in certain pics. There are some pics where Shawne looks as short as 6'1" and others tall as 6'4". Just like some pics where Vernon looks below 6'2" and others over 6'4". And just like some pics where Boris looks 6'2" and others 6'5"+.
And I have no reason to doubt Mr. R's 6'3.25" estimate for Boris because he looks around that height next to athletes of known heights and as well as some celebs.
Andrea said on 16/Jan/18
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it was just a tongue-and-cheek remark, Christian. Just like every other thing he said to those posters he disagreed with throughout these years, LOL. And, as I said, you keep lying. I never felt insulted by Canson's trash talk and, in fact, I never mentioned it before the day you started to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy in doing that. Keep believing in what you say, though. As I said, I couldn't care less at this point.
And I don't know how many times I have to tell you, people "meeting" celebrities is not evidence. Again, who are these people who have met Shawne? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Many people also guessed a guy like Tom Cruise as 5'5 MAX "in person". This doesn't make him that short, though. Shawne certainly looks taller than just 6-2.4 with many MEASURED athletes, so I find it hard to believe that he's as short as that. With Barkley I wouldn't have guessed him over 2 inches shorter there, so still taller than 6-2.4. And no, I don't think that Barkley could be as tall as 6'6. The most I would argue is 6'5.5, but I'd safely rule out 6'6. Speaking of Shawne, I had another look at that site that listed his height as 6-2.4 (which seems the only place where he got described as low as that) and it's not even an official site, but a "fan site" run by a guy who somehow retrieves those data and puts them on it. So it's not even an official source, unlike nfldraftscout.com, but I guess that having Shawne down at 6'2-6'3 is enough to make it legit, right? Anyway, I'll be honest and say that I'm not completely sure about Shawne (like I can be about Boris), but 6'2-6'3 does seem too low next to many measured athletes, although I can appreciate how he can look as low as that at times. As for the time of measurements, that's just speculation. We don't know at what time (meaning how many hours out of bed) any of these athletes (Shawne, Dwayne and Pique) were measured, so it makes no sense to say that Shawne can't be as much as 2 cms under his measurement and at the same time that Dwayne can be as much as an inch under it.
And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, but I never used Viper's thought about that picture of Boris with Magic as proof that Boris is 6'4. What kind of proof would that be? LOL Besides the fact that, as I said, Viper never said that Boris is 6'4... And I honestly still don't see how this thing is connected to you saying that Shawne is 6'2 because, according to you, he looked clearly shorter than Vernon in that terrible picture you posted. What is even funnier is that now that I have posted 2 good pictures of them together, you simply disresgard them. And I could say the same thing you said for that picture of Shawne and Barkley. If you wanna still believe that his 6-2.4 measurement was legit, we can agree to disagree. But that means you also have to put Vernon at barely 6'2 now.
As for Vincent Pastore, as I said, I have seen nothing of him, but if he really looks more 5'9 than 5'10, based on the many photos I'm sure you have seen before submitting that comment, why don't you post those photos on his page, so that Rob can give him a more realistic listing? I'm sure it would be appreciated... ;)
As for Mr. R, I was pretty sure that you would have made that argument ("he overestimates but never underestimates") and I was waiting for it because it's not true. Mr. R also guessed 5'10.75 listed George Clooney as low as 5'9-5'9.5, 5'7.5 listed Mark Ruffalo as low as 5'6 and 5'10 listed Mark Valley as low as 5'7, just to name a few. So no, he doesn't just overestimate celebrities at times, but he also underestimates them. That being said, I respect him a lot because unlike many posters on here, he sounds like a genuine guy and he's never arrogant when he gives his estimates.
P.S. Canson, exactly like I said in my last post. Exactly that... :)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it was just a tongue-and-cheek remark, Christian. Just like every other thing he said to those posters he disagreed with throughout these years, LOL. And, as I said, you keep lying. I never felt insulted by Canson's trash talk and, in fact, I never mentioned it before the day you started to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy in doing that. Keep believing in what you say, though. As I said, I couldn't care less at this point.
And I don't know how many times I have to tell you, people "meeting" celebrities is not evidence. Again, who are these people who have met Shawne? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Many people also guessed a guy like Tom Cruise as 5'5 MAX "in person". This doesn't make him that short, though. Shawne certainly looks taller than just 6-2.4 with many MEASURED athletes, so I find it hard to believe that he's as short as that. With Barkley I wouldn't have guessed him over 2 inches shorter there, so still taller than 6-2.4. And no, I don't think that Barkley could be as tall as 6'6. The most I would argue is 6'5.5, but I'd safely rule out 6'6. Speaking of Shawne, I had another look at that site that listed his height as 6-2.4 (which seems the only place where he got described as low as that) and it's not even an official site, but a "fan site" run by a guy who somehow retrieves those data and puts them on it. So it's not even an official source, unlike nfldraftscout.com, but I guess that having Shawne down at 6'2-6'3 is enough to make it legit, right? Anyway, I'll be honest and say that I'm not completely sure about Shawne (like I can be about Boris), but 6'2-6'3 does seem too low next to many measured athletes, although I can appreciate how he can look as low as that at times. As for the time of measurements, that's just speculation. We don't know at what time (meaning how many hours out of bed) any of these athletes (Shawne, Dwayne and Pique) were measured, so it makes no sense to say that Shawne can't be as much as 2 cms under his measurement and at the same time that Dwayne can be as much as an inch under it.
And I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, but I never used Viper's thought about that picture of Boris with Magic as proof that Boris is 6'4. What kind of proof would that be? LOL Besides the fact that, as I said, Viper never said that Boris is 6'4... And I honestly still don't see how this thing is connected to you saying that Shawne is 6'2 because, according to you, he looked clearly shorter than Vernon in that terrible picture you posted. What is even funnier is that now that I have posted 2 good pictures of them together, you simply disresgard them. And I could say the same thing you said for that picture of Shawne and Barkley. If you wanna still believe that his 6-2.4 measurement was legit, we can agree to disagree. But that means you also have to put Vernon at barely 6'2 now.
As for Vincent Pastore, as I said, I have seen nothing of him, but if he really looks more 5'9 than 5'10, based on the many photos I'm sure you have seen before submitting that comment, why don't you post those photos on his page, so that Rob can give him a more realistic listing? I'm sure it would be appreciated... ;)
As for Mr. R, I was pretty sure that you would have made that argument ("he overestimates but never underestimates") and I was waiting for it because it's not true. Mr. R also guessed 5'10.75 listed George Clooney as low as 5'9-5'9.5, 5'7.5 listed Mark Ruffalo as low as 5'6 and 5'10 listed Mark Valley as low as 5'7, just to name a few. So no, he doesn't just overestimate celebrities at times, but he also underestimates them. That being said, I respect him a lot because unlike many posters on here, he sounds like a genuine guy and he's never arrogant when he gives his estimates.
P.S. Canson, exactly like I said in my last post. Exactly that... :)
Canson said on 14/Jan/18
Viper/Checker has also met merriman in person so he could tell a difference of 6â2 and 6â4
Viper/Checker has also met merriman in person so he could tell a difference of 6â2 and 6â4
Canson said on 14/Jan/18
@Christian: well said! I wasnât close enough to Merriman to see exactly. But checker mentioned it earlier about the game that he attended and I believe it was the Miami game where I too saw Merriman. But Iâve axtually stood right next to Vernon Davis tho and he is 6â3â and have never seen any evidence to believe Merriman is taller than he is. Davis looks physically taller all the time. Now I donât agree with all of Checkerâs estimates such as Michael Irvin being only 6â0â because Iâve met Irvin and he was at most 3â (actually was more 2-3â) shorter than me and I believe I had boots on and he was prob in regular shoes which prob explained it. Irvin to me in person was 6â2â honestly. Maybe heâs lost height today but when I met him he looked about 6â2â still. Worst case 6â1.5 if Iâm somehow off. but I do agree on Merriman esp with me knowing someone that has also met him and said that he is not as tall as I am and wasnât even as tall as my 6â3â friend. Davis tho was for sure taller than Michael Irvin in person. Davis is every bit as tall as one of my friends who is 6â3â standing next to me. In fact I could argue Davis may appear taller but because he has good posture too. My friend is close to 60 and tho he still maintains his height well he may not always have perfect posture (but to his credit has very broad shoulders and is an ex CFL player). Thereâs always a chance someone had a slight footwear advantage but we were both in similar footwear from what I remember. He gives off a bigger impression on Tv than he actually is at times and he has supreme posture too. Also has a very typical build for a classic 6â3â meaning the legs etc. thereâs always a chance heâs 6â2 7/8 being that the combine in 2006 was said to be at 6am (see article below that I posted to Checker) but Davis still looked 6â3â imho. So to me he prob isnât under 6â2 7/8 esp being my friend is 190.4ish at a low at night
I agree with you on Dwayne Wade but honestly donât even know if that was a Bust a Gut. That looks like an error where the shoe height was placed in the barefoot column and they simply added an inch for sneaks as my former AAU coach has met Wade (he was a NBA scout) and said Wade was maybe a hair taller than him. He himself is 6â2â by his own admission and said Wade is at âbestâ 6â3 but estimated him 6â2-6â3. That may also be coming from what he knows from people around the league. Not to mention my former coach knows Otis Smith GM from Orlando Magic very well and Smith said in a narrative describing Wade âheâs 6â4 on a good dayâ. That doesnât describe a guy who is 6â3.75 even 6â3.5.
@Christian: well said! I wasnât close enough to Merriman to see exactly. But checker mentioned it earlier about the game that he attended and I believe it was the Miami game where I too saw Merriman. But Iâve axtually stood right next to Vernon Davis tho and he is 6â3â and have never seen any evidence to believe Merriman is taller than he is. Davis looks physically taller all the time. Now I donât agree with all of Checkerâs estimates such as Michael Irvin being only 6â0â because Iâve met Irvin and he was at most 3â (actually was more 2-3â) shorter than me and I believe I had boots on and he was prob in regular shoes which prob explained it. Irvin to me in person was 6â2â honestly. Maybe heâs lost height today but when I met him he looked about 6â2â still. Worst case 6â1.5 if Iâm somehow off. but I do agree on Merriman esp with me knowing someone that has also met him and said that he is not as tall as I am and wasnât even as tall as my 6â3â friend. Davis tho was for sure taller than Michael Irvin in person. Davis is every bit as tall as one of my friends who is 6â3â standing next to me. In fact I could argue Davis may appear taller but because he has good posture too. My friend is close to 60 and tho he still maintains his height well he may not always have perfect posture (but to his credit has very broad shoulders and is an ex CFL player). Thereâs always a chance someone had a slight footwear advantage but we were both in similar footwear from what I remember. He gives off a bigger impression on Tv than he actually is at times and he has supreme posture too. Also has a very typical build for a classic 6â3â meaning the legs etc. thereâs always a chance heâs 6â2 7/8 being that the combine in 2006 was said to be at 6am (see article below that I posted to Checker) but Davis still looked 6â3â imho. So to me he prob isnât under 6â2 7/8 esp being my friend is 190.4ish at a low at night
I agree with you on Dwayne Wade but honestly donât even know if that was a Bust a Gut. That looks like an error where the shoe height was placed in the barefoot column and they simply added an inch for sneaks as my former AAU coach has met Wade (he was a NBA scout) and said Wade was maybe a hair taller than him. He himself is 6â2â by his own admission and said Wade is at âbestâ 6â3 but estimated him 6â2-6â3. That may also be coming from what he knows from people around the league. Not to mention my former coach knows Otis Smith GM from Orlando Magic very well and Smith said in a narrative describing Wade âheâs 6â4 on a good dayâ. That doesnât describe a guy who is 6â3.75 even 6â3.5.
Canson said on 14/Jan/18
@Andrea: so if youâre going to challenge Viper et all meeting or estimating Shawneâs Height in person or pics why do you take Risingâs estimates for granted or put any measurable amount of consideration that they may be true? You just proved Christianâs point that you only take the estimates that support your narrative and disregard anything that contradicts it. And Viperâs estimate Before was âindicativeâ of Boris possibly being 6â4. I mean you can say what you want but why did you bring up that âeven he said that could âlook 6â4 with Magicâ if you didnât consider it to have weight or merit in your argument? Otherwise you shouldnât have even mentioned it. Now that he has changed his estimate (as Checker) it must be âtaken with a grain of saltâ? And because Merriman doesnât look near his combine height. Btw I see you mentioning his multiple usernames as something that should be held against him. Just like he said Merriman doesnât deny the 6â2â claim Iâve never seen Checker deny it when someone has called him Viper. Iâve seen many posters and Rob call him Viper even under that username and he doesnât say a thing. Not to mention his pictures and evidence prove Merriman isnât more than 6â2â
@Andrea: so if youâre going to challenge Viper et all meeting or estimating Shawneâs Height in person or pics why do you take Risingâs estimates for granted or put any measurable amount of consideration that they may be true? You just proved Christianâs point that you only take the estimates that support your narrative and disregard anything that contradicts it. And Viperâs estimate Before was âindicativeâ of Boris possibly being 6â4. I mean you can say what you want but why did you bring up that âeven he said that could âlook 6â4 with Magicâ if you didnât consider it to have weight or merit in your argument? Otherwise you shouldnât have even mentioned it. Now that he has changed his estimate (as Checker) it must be âtaken with a grain of saltâ? And because Merriman doesnât look near his combine height. Btw I see you mentioning his multiple usernames as something that should be held against him. Just like he said Merriman doesnât deny the 6â2â claim Iâve never seen Checker deny it when someone has called him Viper. Iâve seen many posters and Rob call him Viper even under that username and he doesnât say a thing. Not to mention his pictures and evidence prove Merriman isnât more than 6â2â
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 14/Jan/18
@Andrea
I'm not saying that everyone who claimed to met a celeb is truthful or even if they're truthful they're accurate. There are some who gave crazy estimates, like 2+ inches more/less than what Rob lists. But I really have no reason to doubt people who claimed to have met Boris and say he's around 6'3", or people who met Shawne and say he's around 6'2". Those two figures are believable because they look those respective heights in some pics and in Shawe's case he was measured 6'2 3/8".
As for Junior31 claiming to have met Vincent Pastore and saying he's 5'9", I have no reason to think he's making up a lie because in a lot of the pics I've seen Pastore standing to celebs, he looks about 5'9" rather than 5'10", especially in his later years due to him shrinking.
As for Mr. R, it's also possible that he could've seen Wayne Brady from a distance so he couldn't gauge his height properly. I'm not gonna rule that out either. And there seems to be a pattern with Mr. R that he whenever he guesses a celeb's height wrong, he overestimates but never underestimates. Like Neil Patrick Harris and Michael Urie for example. And that's why I highly doubt he underestimated Boris when he met him and guessed him as 6'3.25"
@Andrea
I'm not saying that everyone who claimed to met a celeb is truthful or even if they're truthful they're accurate. There are some who gave crazy estimates, like 2+ inches more/less than what Rob lists. But I really have no reason to doubt people who claimed to have met Boris and say he's around 6'3", or people who met Shawne and say he's around 6'2". Those two figures are believable because they look those respective heights in some pics and in Shawe's case he was measured 6'2 3/8".
As for Junior31 claiming to have met Vincent Pastore and saying he's 5'9", I have no reason to think he's making up a lie because in a lot of the pics I've seen Pastore standing to celebs, he looks about 5'9" rather than 5'10", especially in his later years due to him shrinking.
As for Mr. R, it's also possible that he could've seen Wayne Brady from a distance so he couldn't gauge his height properly. I'm not gonna rule that out either. And there seems to be a pattern with Mr. R that he whenever he guesses a celeb's height wrong, he overestimates but never underestimates. Like Neil Patrick Harris and Michael Urie for example. And that's why I highly doubt he underestimated Boris when he met him and guessed him as 6'3.25"
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 14/Jan/18
@Andrea
And Canson's remark about you being a prostitute was tounge-and-cheek as well, but you took offense to that. That's when I brought the boyfriend remark up. You're the one that's lying here. I remember clearly that I brought it up after, not before. If you want proof, you go ask Rob yourself, don't beg me to do it.
And like I said, it's extremely unlikely that the 6'2 3/8" measurement was an error, one reason is because people met Shawne and said he's about 6'2" (including a friend of Canson's). Also Canson himself met him once but he said he was very far away so he couldn't exactly pinpoint how tall he looked.
And don't even begin to compare Wade's and Shawne's measurements. NBA and NFL do measurements at different times of the day. NBA does measurements that are sometimes 6:30AM while NFL combine takes place later in the morning. And I never disregarded or said Wade's 6'3.75" measurement was an error. I just don't believe he's nearly as tall as his measurement. He typically looks around 190cm next to players. The only way a 190cm guy would ever measure near 6'3.75" is immediately out of bed, but NBA players don't get measured straight out of bed. So Wade very well could've busted a gut during a measurement very early in the day and could've got 6'3 5/8" and just rounded up to 6'3.75" as the NBA doesn't use 1/8" fractions. As for Shawne, if you say he's 192cm, there's no way he can measure 194cm (by Busting a Gut or not), unless he slept inside the stadium and was measured immediately upon waking up, which is absurd. Players don't sleep the night inside the building before combine. And as I explained, the NFL combine takes place later in the morning than NBA. And Pique's situation is different because soccer measurements are sometimes done very early like the NBA.
And I'd love for you to explain how a "6'4 3/8" measured" Shawne looks about 2.5" shorter than a 6'4 5/8" Barkley. Click Here Let's face it, either Shawne's max 6'2 3/8" and Barkley's max 6'4 5/8", or Shawne's weak 6'4" and Barkley's 6'6"+. It's either one of the two, Andrea. And it would be foolish for you to believe the latter, because you're the same person who believes Barkley's 6'4.75", so don't inflate Barkley to 6'6" just to make Shawne a weak 6'4", now that Shawne looks 2.5" shorter than him. And let's just say if somehow, someway, Barkley was really the 6'5.5" that RisingForce thinks he is, it would still make Shawne 6'3" flat.
And I view any measurement as being reliable, whether it be from an article or from a draft document. The only time I question a player's measurement is when their height in pics/clips don't reflect their supposed measurements. The reason why Barkley's 6'4 5/8" is believable is because he looks around it in the majority of pics next to other celebs and players of known heights, and Barkley's teammates/coaches etc. described him as 6'4"-6'5" and 6'4". And the reason why Shawne's 6'4 3/8" is BS in my opinion is because he looks around 6'2"-6'3" and 6'2" in many pics, but to be fair he also can look as tall as weak 6'4" in other pics as well. But at least 2 people met him and said he's about 6'2". And if that's not enough, he was also measured 6'2 3/8" at the NFL Pro Bowl. If you wanna still believe that his 6'4 3/8" measurement was legit, we can agree to disagree. But that means you also have to put Barkley at 6'6"+ now.
And I was just pointing out your hypocrisy that it's ok for you to use Viper's (the poster who you refer to as a downgrader) 6'4" estimate for Boris as proof that he's 6'4", but somehow it's wrong for me to use the pic with Vernon and Shawne as a hint (not necessarily proof even) that Shawne's 6'2".
@Andrea
And Canson's remark about you being a prostitute was tounge-and-cheek as well, but you took offense to that. That's when I brought the boyfriend remark up. You're the one that's lying here. I remember clearly that I brought it up after, not before. If you want proof, you go ask Rob yourself, don't beg me to do it.
And like I said, it's extremely unlikely that the 6'2 3/8" measurement was an error, one reason is because people met Shawne and said he's about 6'2" (including a friend of Canson's). Also Canson himself met him once but he said he was very far away so he couldn't exactly pinpoint how tall he looked.
And don't even begin to compare Wade's and Shawne's measurements. NBA and NFL do measurements at different times of the day. NBA does measurements that are sometimes 6:30AM while NFL combine takes place later in the morning. And I never disregarded or said Wade's 6'3.75" measurement was an error. I just don't believe he's nearly as tall as his measurement. He typically looks around 190cm next to players. The only way a 190cm guy would ever measure near 6'3.75" is immediately out of bed, but NBA players don't get measured straight out of bed. So Wade very well could've busted a gut during a measurement very early in the day and could've got 6'3 5/8" and just rounded up to 6'3.75" as the NBA doesn't use 1/8" fractions. As for Shawne, if you say he's 192cm, there's no way he can measure 194cm (by Busting a Gut or not), unless he slept inside the stadium and was measured immediately upon waking up, which is absurd. Players don't sleep the night inside the building before combine. And as I explained, the NFL combine takes place later in the morning than NBA. And Pique's situation is different because soccer measurements are sometimes done very early like the NBA.
And I'd love for you to explain how a "6'4 3/8" measured" Shawne looks about 2.5" shorter than a 6'4 5/8" Barkley. Click Here Let's face it, either Shawne's max 6'2 3/8" and Barkley's max 6'4 5/8", or Shawne's weak 6'4" and Barkley's 6'6"+. It's either one of the two, Andrea. And it would be foolish for you to believe the latter, because you're the same person who believes Barkley's 6'4.75", so don't inflate Barkley to 6'6" just to make Shawne a weak 6'4", now that Shawne looks 2.5" shorter than him. And let's just say if somehow, someway, Barkley was really the 6'5.5" that RisingForce thinks he is, it would still make Shawne 6'3" flat.
And I view any measurement as being reliable, whether it be from an article or from a draft document. The only time I question a player's measurement is when their height in pics/clips don't reflect their supposed measurements. The reason why Barkley's 6'4 5/8" is believable is because he looks around it in the majority of pics next to other celebs and players of known heights, and Barkley's teammates/coaches etc. described him as 6'4"-6'5" and 6'4". And the reason why Shawne's 6'4 3/8" is BS in my opinion is because he looks around 6'2"-6'3" and 6'2" in many pics, but to be fair he also can look as tall as weak 6'4" in other pics as well. But at least 2 people met him and said he's about 6'2". And if that's not enough, he was also measured 6'2 3/8" at the NFL Pro Bowl. If you wanna still believe that his 6'4 3/8" measurement was legit, we can agree to disagree. But that means you also have to put Barkley at 6'6"+ now.
And I was just pointing out your hypocrisy that it's ok for you to use Viper's (the poster who you refer to as a downgrader) 6'4" estimate for Boris as proof that he's 6'4", but somehow it's wrong for me to use the pic with Vernon and Shawne as a hint (not necessarily proof even) that Shawne's 6'2".
Canson said on 13/Jan/18
@Andrea: thatâs exactly why both of us say that Wade is 6â2.75 next to other NBA players he doesnât look 6â3.75.And that wouldnât be an early morning measurement of course if heâs that low it would be a shoe measurement for him. Heâs clearly 2â shorter than Kobe Barkley or Jordan and not even an inch on Westbrook and probably a full inch maybe 1.5â on Rose. I donât see why you are attacking us on that when you discount Merriman measuring 6â2 3/8. As Christian said you choose whatever fits your narrative and accuse us of doing that. And you continuing to use Risingâs estimates and comment on what he says just proves what Christian and I both have said all along that are hypercritical sinxe you seem to preface your narrative with what he says and you accuse us of believing the posters that we want or âlyingâ when it doesnât agree with your thoughts. You really have some nerve calling anyone a hypocrite. Again everyone here sees that you do exactly what you accuse us of yet you turn it around on us. Itâs funny that you have attacked both Christian and me about doing that yet you continue to do that. Then when someoneâs estimate doesnât agree or coincide with yours that personâs estimate like Mr R or Checker/Viper shouldnât be taken seriously or should be taken with a grain of salt. As far as what you said about Mr R on previous estimates if that is how tall he guessed the other celeb then thatâs his opinion. Not everyone has to see things your way or agree with everything you say. However you only seem to respect the posters that do is what you clearly do. I mean when you tell me âCanson, if after all of these pics and things you still believe Boris is under 6â4, then I donât know what to tell youâ or âI thought you guys were reasonable but I guess notâ that clearly shows it so no need to even speak on that anymore. But had Mr R said that Boris was 6â3.5 or 6â4 in person you would #1 believe him and use that as more proof that Boris is 6â4â in this argument and #2 you wouldnât have even brought up his estimate about the other celeb that you did to Christian. Thatâs obvious with you.
As far as you comparing Boris and seeking opinions itâs very clear not only here but in other pages that you donât have a mind of your own. You have gone to 3 or 4 other pages where you âseek reassuranceâ that Boris is 6â4 from Rob and other posters. Chi McBride Tyler Perry And Cena. You continue to ask Rob and other posters whether Boris looks 6â4â with that celeb. Itâs clear as day so really you have no room to attack Christian or me.
Again, you harp on me sounding like a broken record when that is you actually referring to yourself. You say that I ignore your posts etc. I donât. I just choose not to respond to some of the false claims that you make against me or Christian or the other jibberish that you post that isnât pertinent to this debate. Much of it is for you to try to show why Christian and I cannot estimate height in your mind because our estimates donât coincide with yours and why our past disagreements with other posters bolsters your argument when really you have no room to talk because youâve engaged in arguments as well. And again I donât care how many youâve gotten into vs how many either one of us has because if youâve gotten into any with other posters then it leaves you no room to critique anyone else. And this argument continues because you keep making false claims about both of us because we donât agree with you or your estimates to try to âdiscredit us as postersâ because Thatâs what you have to resort to when you have nothing else to say
@Andrea: thatâs exactly why both of us say that Wade is 6â2.75 next to other NBA players he doesnât look 6â3.75.And that wouldnât be an early morning measurement of course if heâs that low it would be a shoe measurement for him. Heâs clearly 2â shorter than Kobe Barkley or Jordan and not even an inch on Westbrook and probably a full inch maybe 1.5â on Rose. I donât see why you are attacking us on that when you discount Merriman measuring 6â2 3/8. As Christian said you choose whatever fits your narrative and accuse us of doing that. And you continuing to use Risingâs estimates and comment on what he says just proves what Christian and I both have said all along that are hypercritical sinxe you seem to preface your narrative with what he says and you accuse us of believing the posters that we want or âlyingâ when it doesnât agree with your thoughts. You really have some nerve calling anyone a hypocrite. Again everyone here sees that you do exactly what you accuse us of yet you turn it around on us. Itâs funny that you have attacked both Christian and me about doing that yet you continue to do that. Then when someoneâs estimate doesnât agree or coincide with yours that personâs estimate like Mr R or Checker/Viper shouldnât be taken seriously or should be taken with a grain of salt. As far as what you said about Mr R on previous estimates if that is how tall he guessed the other celeb then thatâs his opinion. Not everyone has to see things your way or agree with everything you say. However you only seem to respect the posters that do is what you clearly do. I mean when you tell me âCanson, if after all of these pics and things you still believe Boris is under 6â4, then I donât know what to tell youâ or âI thought you guys were reasonable but I guess notâ that clearly shows it so no need to even speak on that anymore. But had Mr R said that Boris was 6â3.5 or 6â4 in person you would #1 believe him and use that as more proof that Boris is 6â4â in this argument and #2 you wouldnât have even brought up his estimate about the other celeb that you did to Christian. Thatâs obvious with you.
As far as you comparing Boris and seeking opinions itâs very clear not only here but in other pages that you donât have a mind of your own. You have gone to 3 or 4 other pages where you âseek reassuranceâ that Boris is 6â4 from Rob and other posters. Chi McBride Tyler Perry And Cena. You continue to ask Rob and other posters whether Boris looks 6â4â with that celeb. Itâs clear as day so really you have no room to attack Christian or me.
Again, you harp on me sounding like a broken record when that is you actually referring to yourself. You say that I ignore your posts etc. I donât. I just choose not to respond to some of the false claims that you make against me or Christian or the other jibberish that you post that isnât pertinent to this debate. Much of it is for you to try to show why Christian and I cannot estimate height in your mind because our estimates donât coincide with yours and why our past disagreements with other posters bolsters your argument when really you have no room to talk because youâve engaged in arguments as well. And again I donât care how many youâve gotten into vs how many either one of us has because if youâve gotten into any with other posters then it leaves you no room to critique anyone else. And this argument continues because you keep making false claims about both of us because we donât agree with you or your estimates to try to âdiscredit us as postersâ because Thatâs what you have to resort to when you have nothing else to say
checker said on 13/Jan/18
Shawne did not deny the 6'2 statement from Rudy Gay at all.
Shawne did not deny the 6'2 statement from Rudy Gay at all.
checker said on 13/Jan/18
Rudy Gay played basketball with Merriman and called him 6'2. Click Here
Either Shawne told him his height or he knows what 6'2 looks like.
Another fail from you Andrea.
And Merriman looks 6'1 a lot as I have showed. Id also love to show the pic of him with 6'6 Jamaal Wilkes where he looks barely 6'1 on even ground but it was a twitter photo and cant find it anymore.
A 6'2 guy like him is going to look 6'1 a good deal and sometimes as tall as 6'3.
Rudy Gay played basketball with Merriman and called him 6'2. Click Here
Either Shawne told him his height or he knows what 6'2 looks like.
Another fail from you Andrea.
And Merriman looks 6'1 a lot as I have showed. Id also love to show the pic of him with 6'6 Jamaal Wilkes where he looks barely 6'1 on even ground but it was a twitter photo and cant find it anymore.
A 6'2 guy like him is going to look 6'1 a good deal and sometimes as tall as 6'3.
Andrea said on 12/Jan/18
As for Mr. R, there's nothing wrong with taking his estimates for granted. You want to do it? Go ahead. I don't. And I even explained why. Although I think that Mr. R is a genuine visitor and that he's truthful when he says he has met this or that celebrity, I also think that some of his estimates are a bit hard to believe. I mean, Mr. R also guessed Neil Patrick Harris at 6'1 and Michael Urie at over 6' in person, just to name a couple. Does that mean that they were in lifts too, considering that I doubt they are over their 5'11.5 and 5'11 listings? Where is the common sense that you love talking about now? My explanation is that he simply overestimated them. Maybe he wasn't close enough, maybe he met them on the street (which is certainly the worst place to gauge heights), etc. It could be a lot of things... That's why I say that it makes no sense to base your estimates on what people that allegedly met celebrities say. First of all because people make up all kind of stories on the internet, especially on this site, and second of all because even if they're telling the truth (which doesn't happen as often as you'd think), this doesn't necessarily mean that their estimates are perfect (like in Mr. R's case). Not everybody is as good as Rob when it comes to guessing heights in person. But you (and even more so Canson) obviously seem to ignore these things... Comments like this prove it: Click Here I mean, a random guy says that he met this celebrity and that this celebrity is no more than 5'9 and you obviously take for granted both the fact that this poster really met this celebrity and the fact that his estimate is 100% correct by saying that it goes to show that a lot of Rob's listings are overlisted. Now, I haven't seen anything of this actor and, as far as I know, he may well be as tall as that poster says, but implying that he's shorter than his 5'10 listing just because a random guy says that he looked no more than 5'9 in person is quite foolish, to say the least.
As for Mr. R, there's nothing wrong with taking his estimates for granted. You want to do it? Go ahead. I don't. And I even explained why. Although I think that Mr. R is a genuine visitor and that he's truthful when he says he has met this or that celebrity, I also think that some of his estimates are a bit hard to believe. I mean, Mr. R also guessed Neil Patrick Harris at 6'1 and Michael Urie at over 6' in person, just to name a couple. Does that mean that they were in lifts too, considering that I doubt they are over their 5'11.5 and 5'11 listings? Where is the common sense that you love talking about now? My explanation is that he simply overestimated them. Maybe he wasn't close enough, maybe he met them on the street (which is certainly the worst place to gauge heights), etc. It could be a lot of things... That's why I say that it makes no sense to base your estimates on what people that allegedly met celebrities say. First of all because people make up all kind of stories on the internet, especially on this site, and second of all because even if they're telling the truth (which doesn't happen as often as you'd think), this doesn't necessarily mean that their estimates are perfect (like in Mr. R's case). Not everybody is as good as Rob when it comes to guessing heights in person. But you (and even more so Canson) obviously seem to ignore these things... Comments like this prove it: Click Here I mean, a random guy says that he met this celebrity and that this celebrity is no more than 5'9 and you obviously take for granted both the fact that this poster really met this celebrity and the fact that his estimate is 100% correct by saying that it goes to show that a lot of Rob's listings are overlisted. Now, I haven't seen anything of this actor and, as far as I know, he may well be as tall as that poster says, but implying that he's shorter than his 5'10 listing just because a random guy says that he looked no more than 5'9 in person is quite foolish, to say the least.
Andrea said on 12/Jan/18
A tounge-and-cheek remark, Christian? That's exactly what my "you and your boyfriend Canson (or viceversa)" was meant to be and see what happened. Speaking of that, the only reason why I recycled that comment about the boyfriend incident in my last post is because you keep lying and saying that you brought it up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute, but it's not true because you did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. As I said, the post that "proves" what I'm saying is no longer here, but you can ask Rob if he still has the old comments somewhere, in case you don't believe me or think I'm making this up... But you know what? Say or think whatever you want. I honestly don't really care at this point.
And who said that Shawne managed to measure 2 inches taller with Bust a Gut measurement? All I said is that with a earlier+Bust a Gut measurement you may well measure 2 cms taller than what you are (at your normal low with a normal measurement). And that may well be Shawne's case. And I never said that the NFL purposefully fabricated that 6-2.4 measurement because I agree that it would make no sense. It could be just an error. And again with this "people met him and said he's 6'2 in person" thing... Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? If you mean people from this site, as I said, they're all Viper under different names, in case you are too unintelligent to understand it (don't worry, it's just a tounge-and-cheek remark :) ). And how is Vernon's picture "distorted"? Vernon is standing a bit closer to the camera, but the camera isn't low (unlike those pictures of Boris with The Game and Michael Jai White), so it's pretty much an ideal picture. And Shawne looks comfortably taller than him. Now, it is certainly hard to believe that Shawne was measured at 6-2.4 and Vernon at 6'3.25. It just doesn't add up! I haven't seen that much of Vernon, to be fair, but I certainly wouldn't guess him under 6'3 next to Obama, so I would say that Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement has a lot more chance to be wrong than Vernon's one. Besides the fact that I have posted many other pictures with other MEASURED athletes where he looks noticeably taller than 6'2-6'3. Are you trying to say that all their measurements are erroneous? LOL
And how is saying that Shawne could be more 6'3-6'4 at his low despite his 6'4 3/8 measurement funny? As I said, with a earlier+Bust a Gut measurement you can easily measure even 2 cms taller than what you are. Pique was measured just under 195 once. According to your logic, his low should be no less than 193.5-194, which I doubt, considering that it could even be less than 193, IMO. Plus, it's funny that you make that argument, given that you are the same guy who thinks that Dwayne Wade is 6'2.75, even though he was measured at 6'3.75. So you basically say that there is no way that Shawne can be as low as 6'3-6'4 if he was measured at 6'4 3/8, but at the same time Dwayne can even be 6'2.75 despite his 6'3.75 measurement. That's a classic Christian: hypocrite and incoherent. And I don't "disregard" Barkley's 6'4 5/8 "measurement". I just think that it's not enough to be considered an "official measurement". It is just a mention in one article, which says that Charles "was more like 6'4 5/8 than 6'6". How can you say that Charles was measured at 6'4 5/8, based only on that? Shawne's 6'4 3/8 measurement, on the other hand, doesn't come from just one article, but it comes from a site that is supposed to list MEASURED heights of NFL players, so it is a bit different. And the fact that you disregard Dwayne Wade's 6'3.75 measurement, but hold on to Charles's alleged 6'4 5/8 measurement clearly shows that you're biased. Speaking of them, it is a bit hard to believe both of their measurements, considering that Dwayne can easily look 2 inches shorter than Charles, like Rising showed, but I guess that it must be because Dwayne's measurement is erroneous. After all, a mention in one article is more reliable than a draft measurement, right?
And what's the connection between Viper's thought about Boris and Magic's picture and the fact that you brought up that terrible Vernon Davis's picture as the definite proof that Shawne is no more than 6'2? Hmm...
A tounge-and-cheek remark, Christian? That's exactly what my "you and your boyfriend Canson (or viceversa)" was meant to be and see what happened. Speaking of that, the only reason why I recycled that comment about the boyfriend incident in my last post is because you keep lying and saying that you brought it up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute, but it's not true because you did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. As I said, the post that "proves" what I'm saying is no longer here, but you can ask Rob if he still has the old comments somewhere, in case you don't believe me or think I'm making this up... But you know what? Say or think whatever you want. I honestly don't really care at this point.
And who said that Shawne managed to measure 2 inches taller with Bust a Gut measurement? All I said is that with a earlier+Bust a Gut measurement you may well measure 2 cms taller than what you are (at your normal low with a normal measurement). And that may well be Shawne's case. And I never said that the NFL purposefully fabricated that 6-2.4 measurement because I agree that it would make no sense. It could be just an error. And again with this "people met him and said he's 6'2 in person" thing... Who are these people? How do you know they actually have met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? If you mean people from this site, as I said, they're all Viper under different names, in case you are too unintelligent to understand it (don't worry, it's just a tounge-and-cheek remark :) ). And how is Vernon's picture "distorted"? Vernon is standing a bit closer to the camera, but the camera isn't low (unlike those pictures of Boris with The Game and Michael Jai White), so it's pretty much an ideal picture. And Shawne looks comfortably taller than him. Now, it is certainly hard to believe that Shawne was measured at 6-2.4 and Vernon at 6'3.25. It just doesn't add up! I haven't seen that much of Vernon, to be fair, but I certainly wouldn't guess him under 6'3 next to Obama, so I would say that Shawne's 6-2.4 measurement has a lot more chance to be wrong than Vernon's one. Besides the fact that I have posted many other pictures with other MEASURED athletes where he looks noticeably taller than 6'2-6'3. Are you trying to say that all their measurements are erroneous? LOL
And how is saying that Shawne could be more 6'3-6'4 at his low despite his 6'4 3/8 measurement funny? As I said, with a earlier+Bust a Gut measurement you can easily measure even 2 cms taller than what you are. Pique was measured just under 195 once. According to your logic, his low should be no less than 193.5-194, which I doubt, considering that it could even be less than 193, IMO. Plus, it's funny that you make that argument, given that you are the same guy who thinks that Dwayne Wade is 6'2.75, even though he was measured at 6'3.75. So you basically say that there is no way that Shawne can be as low as 6'3-6'4 if he was measured at 6'4 3/8, but at the same time Dwayne can even be 6'2.75 despite his 6'3.75 measurement. That's a classic Christian: hypocrite and incoherent. And I don't "disregard" Barkley's 6'4 5/8 "measurement". I just think that it's not enough to be considered an "official measurement". It is just a mention in one article, which says that Charles "was more like 6'4 5/8 than 6'6". How can you say that Charles was measured at 6'4 5/8, based only on that? Shawne's 6'4 3/8 measurement, on the other hand, doesn't come from just one article, but it comes from a site that is supposed to list MEASURED heights of NFL players, so it is a bit different. And the fact that you disregard Dwayne Wade's 6'3.75 measurement, but hold on to Charles's alleged 6'4 5/8 measurement clearly shows that you're biased. Speaking of them, it is a bit hard to believe both of their measurements, considering that Dwayne can easily look 2 inches shorter than Charles, like Rising showed, but I guess that it must be because Dwayne's measurement is erroneous. After all, a mention in one article is more reliable than a draft measurement, right?
And what's the connection between Viper's thought about Boris and Magic's picture and the fact that you brought up that terrible Vernon Davis's picture as the definite proof that Shawne is no more than 6'2? Hmm...
Andrea said on 12/Jan/18
LOL, Canson. You basically just proved what I said about you in my last post. You make excuses, you are biased, you are hypocrite, you have no clue about height differences and camera tricks, you lie, you have no credibility, you cherry pick photos and videos, you don't have a mind of your own (even though I would simply say you have no brain) and you think that what other people say is just an opinion, but at the same time you act as if what you say is the only truth on here, which brings you, most of the time, to insult those people who disagree with you. And you're obviously full of insecurities. The fact that you keep accusing me of things you're guilty of proves it. That's basic psychology.
And you make up a lot of things. Viper never said that Boris is 6'4. He just said that Boris looks at least 6'4 next to Magic, not that he is 6'4. If I'm not wrong, he always said that he's no more than 6'2 or 6'3, which could certainly explain, not that I care, why the Average Guess is so low :P 6'2 or 6'3, which is the same estimate he gave for Jared Padalecki. So, at least he's coherent with what he says, considering that a 6'2-6'3 estimate for Boris is just as believable as a 6'2-6'3 estimate for Jared. I'll give him that.
And the reason why I posted those photos and videos on John Cena's and Chi McBride's pages is because both of them can certainly be argued to be shorter than their listings next to Boris and those links I have posted speak more about John's and Chi's listings than Boris'. I certainly don't need people to tell me that Boris looks 6'4 next to them because first of all, as I said, I don't need consensus or people agreeing with me, unlike you, and second of all because it's quite obvious (at least to an unbiased person) that he looks 6'4 and, if anything, even taller than that, if you assume that both John and Chi are as tall as listed. You, on the other hand, tried to continue this debate on The Game's and Charles Barkley's pages, by saying that they make Boris look no more than 6'3 and by hoping that some other people came on their pages and said that you are right and that Boris is as tall as you say. So, once again, you accuse me of things you're guilty of. That doesn't surprise me anymore, though. That's typical of you character.
As for Shawne, my estimate for his height has nothing to do with Boris. If I thought he could be as low as 6'2, I'd have no problem to admit it. I mean, I know that there is a photo of Boris with Shawne, where he looks a bit taller than him, but again there is a "similar" photo of Armie Hammer with the same Shawne, where he looks no taller than him: Click Here Click Here So saying that Boris isn't over 6'2-6'3 just because Shawne is 6'2 is like saying that Armie isn't over 6'2 just because Shawne is 6'2. Although Armie may well be closer to 6'4 flat, I certainly doubt he's as low as 6'2...
And how I am "so unsure of myself now that there actually is evidence that Boris is below 6'4."? What are you even talking about? LOL If anything, now that I have seen more photos and videos of him than what I had before this discussion, I'm even more sure about this listing. And I repeat what I said in the past: if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. Why? Because I've certainly seen enough (probably more than any other celebrity now) to completely rule it out. If you rule out the possibility of him wearing lifts or every other celebrity he appeared with being noticeably shorter than their listings, I would bet all the money I have that he's comfortably taller than 6'3. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities.
P.S. The only reason why it takes me a while to reply at times is because unlike you, I have a life and I don't spend my days behind a monitor. I know that that word probably means nothing to you, but I suggest you to do the same. Get a life, Canson. After all, didn't you say that you already are in your thirties? I'd say it's about time, especially considering that you act, think and speak like a 10 years old kid.
LOL, Canson. You basically just proved what I said about you in my last post. You make excuses, you are biased, you are hypocrite, you have no clue about height differences and camera tricks, you lie, you have no credibility, you cherry pick photos and videos, you don't have a mind of your own (even though I would simply say you have no brain) and you think that what other people say is just an opinion, but at the same time you act as if what you say is the only truth on here, which brings you, most of the time, to insult those people who disagree with you. And you're obviously full of insecurities. The fact that you keep accusing me of things you're guilty of proves it. That's basic psychology.
And you make up a lot of things. Viper never said that Boris is 6'4. He just said that Boris looks at least 6'4 next to Magic, not that he is 6'4. If I'm not wrong, he always said that he's no more than 6'2 or 6'3, which could certainly explain, not that I care, why the Average Guess is so low :P 6'2 or 6'3, which is the same estimate he gave for Jared Padalecki. So, at least he's coherent with what he says, considering that a 6'2-6'3 estimate for Boris is just as believable as a 6'2-6'3 estimate for Jared. I'll give him that.
And the reason why I posted those photos and videos on John Cena's and Chi McBride's pages is because both of them can certainly be argued to be shorter than their listings next to Boris and those links I have posted speak more about John's and Chi's listings than Boris'. I certainly don't need people to tell me that Boris looks 6'4 next to them because first of all, as I said, I don't need consensus or people agreeing with me, unlike you, and second of all because it's quite obvious (at least to an unbiased person) that he looks 6'4 and, if anything, even taller than that, if you assume that both John and Chi are as tall as listed. You, on the other hand, tried to continue this debate on The Game's and Charles Barkley's pages, by saying that they make Boris look no more than 6'3 and by hoping that some other people came on their pages and said that you are right and that Boris is as tall as you say. So, once again, you accuse me of things you're guilty of. That doesn't surprise me anymore, though. That's typical of you character.
As for Shawne, my estimate for his height has nothing to do with Boris. If I thought he could be as low as 6'2, I'd have no problem to admit it. I mean, I know that there is a photo of Boris with Shawne, where he looks a bit taller than him, but again there is a "similar" photo of Armie Hammer with the same Shawne, where he looks no taller than him: Click Here Click Here So saying that Boris isn't over 6'2-6'3 just because Shawne is 6'2 is like saying that Armie isn't over 6'2 just because Shawne is 6'2. Although Armie may well be closer to 6'4 flat, I certainly doubt he's as low as 6'2...
And how I am "so unsure of myself now that there actually is evidence that Boris is below 6'4."? What are you even talking about? LOL If anything, now that I have seen more photos and videos of him than what I had before this discussion, I'm even more sure about this listing. And I repeat what I said in the past: if he ever turned out to be as low as 6'3 flat (let alone under), I would be so shocked that I probably would never come back on here for the embarrassment. Why? Because I've certainly seen enough (probably more than any other celebrity now) to completely rule it out. If you rule out the possibility of him wearing lifts or every other celebrity he appeared with being noticeably shorter than their listings, I would bet all the money I have that he's comfortably taller than 6'3. The reason why I say that I would never come back on here for the embarrassment is because it never happened so far that I overestimated (or underestimated) a celebrity by an inch (let alone over), but, as I said, basically all celebrities that I have "challenged" in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. I guess I've been just "lucky"... And for the record, I have seen a lot less stuff of those celebrities than what I have seen of Boris. So, if anything, I'm a lot more sure about him than how I could have been about those celebrities.
P.S. The only reason why it takes me a while to reply at times is because unlike you, I have a life and I don't spend my days behind a monitor. I know that that word probably means nothing to you, but I suggest you to do the same. Get a life, Canson. After all, didn't you say that you already are in your thirties? I'd say it's about time, especially considering that you act, think and speak like a 10 years old kid.
Canson said on 11/Jan/18
@Christian: to be fair in all of this a lot of people here use that Barkley wasnât ever measured tho. At least Andrea trusts that he isnât over 6â4.75. Iâll give him that. I mean Iâve seen some craziness with people saying the measurement didnât actually take place and usually just to make people taller. But you say it well and the same as I always have with Barkley people and many many people on the net and few people I know have met him and more often than not heâs 6â4-6â5 range. Even people taller than him say the same so the eye level excuse Iâve seen on here doesnât fly either. Iâve also seen it where people like teammates etc say heâs 6â4â so that leads me to believe 6â4.75 could be a bit earlier and he may only be 6â4.5 or so at a low. He is heavy tho so maybe heâs 6â5.25-.5 out of bed but even so he could be down to my height by nighttime on the flip side
@Christian: to be fair in all of this a lot of people here use that Barkley wasnât ever measured tho. At least Andrea trusts that he isnât over 6â4.75. Iâll give him that. I mean Iâve seen some craziness with people saying the measurement didnât actually take place and usually just to make people taller. But you say it well and the same as I always have with Barkley people and many many people on the net and few people I know have met him and more often than not heâs 6â4-6â5 range. Even people taller than him say the same so the eye level excuse Iâve seen on here doesnât fly either. Iâve also seen it where people like teammates etc say heâs 6â4â so that leads me to believe 6â4.75 could be a bit earlier and he may only be 6â4.5 or so at a low. He is heavy tho so maybe heâs 6â5.25-.5 out of bed but even so he could be down to my height by nighttime on the flip side
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 11/Jan/18
@Canson
True. And Andrea made yet another excuse when he said that Barkley's 6'4 5/8" measurement was possibly a typo. And what's also funny is that he holds dear to Shawne's erroneous 6'4 3/8" listing but at the same time he also estimates him at weak 6'4" or 6'3"-6'4" (basically 6'3.5"), which is contradicting because a player isn't gonna be nearly an inch shorter than what he measured at the combine. At most it's like 3/8" or 1/2" shorter like you said. If Shawne's really 6'3.5" or weak 6'4", then he would've been measured 6'4" flat at most at the combine.
The fact that Andrea disregarded Barkley's 6'4 5/8" and Shawne's 6'2 3/8" measurements, but holds on to Shawne's erroneous 6'4 3/8" measurement, clearly shows that he's biased.
@Canson
True. And Andrea made yet another excuse when he said that Barkley's 6'4 5/8" measurement was possibly a typo. And what's also funny is that he holds dear to Shawne's erroneous 6'4 3/8" listing but at the same time he also estimates him at weak 6'4" or 6'3"-6'4" (basically 6'3.5"), which is contradicting because a player isn't gonna be nearly an inch shorter than what he measured at the combine. At most it's like 3/8" or 1/2" shorter like you said. If Shawne's really 6'3.5" or weak 6'4", then he would've been measured 6'4" flat at most at the combine.
The fact that Andrea disregarded Barkley's 6'4 5/8" and Shawne's 6'2 3/8" measurements, but holds on to Shawne's erroneous 6'4 3/8" measurement, clearly shows that he's biased.
Canson said on 10/Jan/18
@Christian: of course Andrea does everything you said he does. He repeats himself with both of us accusing us of the same things he does. He does so and tries to play victim and accuse other people to put light on what they do in order to deflect the attention away from himself. That is the same thing as he has done here by bringing up past disagreements weâve had as that is somehow evidence here about Boris being 6â4â or makes our estimates less credible or even worse our opinions and posts. Essentially he does it to make us less credible as posters.
I agree Andrea does write very well. Whatâs fair is fair but when the writing is all in vein and is simply to make himself look better and try to look make us look bad it is cancelled out. It is also because he takes the time to spell check and uses a computer whereas I use a phone as do others which autocorrect and cause errors in grammar and structure. Itâs like anything we say at this point that is pertinent to this argument is discredited is how I feel because his mind is made up that Heâs right across the board. This doesnât include the stuff that we are saying amongst each other critiquing. These are the facts weâve presented here pertaining to the argument where they are always wrong or discounted or he makes an excuse to discredit or diminish them.
At the end of the day, all of us have said stuff to each other (you not as bad as he or I have) but for Andrea continuously attack and say that either of us select which assessments on height that a poster chooses where he is clearly doing the same with Checker/Viper (first it was potential evidence that Boris is 6â4 now itâs not because he doesnât believe he is and admitted it), not to mention me with Moe and Bobby3342 where I was accused of doing the same thing that he is with Checker and Rising Force. I didnât agree with Moe and his assessments on most of his celebs (nor did Andrea and he even said he lost credibility) yet Iâm the one who is in the wrong. And you and I have both debated with Rising. While i also respect him, I donât agree with any of his estimates on the basketball players. All are at least half inch too high some even more than that. But his estimates become convenient because Barkley being or looking a full 6â5â or more make Boris 6â4â like he says he is. Thatâs fine and dandy. At least you donât see either of us running to Rob and other posters to see if Boris looks 6â4â next to McBride or Cena or saying that we would never come back to this site if we lost the argument.
@Christian: of course Andrea does everything you said he does. He repeats himself with both of us accusing us of the same things he does. He does so and tries to play victim and accuse other people to put light on what they do in order to deflect the attention away from himself. That is the same thing as he has done here by bringing up past disagreements weâve had as that is somehow evidence here about Boris being 6â4â or makes our estimates less credible or even worse our opinions and posts. Essentially he does it to make us less credible as posters.
I agree Andrea does write very well. Whatâs fair is fair but when the writing is all in vein and is simply to make himself look better and try to look make us look bad it is cancelled out. It is also because he takes the time to spell check and uses a computer whereas I use a phone as do others which autocorrect and cause errors in grammar and structure. Itâs like anything we say at this point that is pertinent to this argument is discredited is how I feel because his mind is made up that Heâs right across the board. This doesnât include the stuff that we are saying amongst each other critiquing. These are the facts weâve presented here pertaining to the argument where they are always wrong or discounted or he makes an excuse to discredit or diminish them.
At the end of the day, all of us have said stuff to each other (you not as bad as he or I have) but for Andrea continuously attack and say that either of us select which assessments on height that a poster chooses where he is clearly doing the same with Checker/Viper (first it was potential evidence that Boris is 6â4 now itâs not because he doesnât believe he is and admitted it), not to mention me with Moe and Bobby3342 where I was accused of doing the same thing that he is with Checker and Rising Force. I didnât agree with Moe and his assessments on most of his celebs (nor did Andrea and he even said he lost credibility) yet Iâm the one who is in the wrong. And you and I have both debated with Rising. While i also respect him, I donât agree with any of his estimates on the basketball players. All are at least half inch too high some even more than that. But his estimates become convenient because Barkley being or looking a full 6â5â or more make Boris 6â4â like he says he is. Thatâs fine and dandy. At least you donât see either of us running to Rob and other posters to see if Boris looks 6â4â next to McBride or Cena or saying that we would never come back to this site if we lost the argument.
Canson said on 10/Jan/18
@Andrea: if I have to hear âyou already told meâ one more time. I swear youâre the broken record. You act as if what you say is gospel or you are authority here. Thatâs why Christian and I donât respect you nor do we take you seriously. You are very annoying and sound like an annoying pest here who is very childish because we arenât seeing it your way that youâre dragging this on. And in your response back to Christian where you wouldâve ended this you wonât. I know you. You will not end it until either Christian or I donât respond back to you or until we agree or until Rob meets Boris and confirms heâs 6â3 or under.
Of course that along with the fact that youâre clearly a hypocrite saying we do things you do (you say we canât estimate height because it doesnât align with your estimates or say that one of us is lying about a height difference because we donât see it the way you do). You fail to mention any of that to either of us. Instead you bring up our past disagreements with other posters to help your argument. Itâs funny you bring up Vincent Jackson in Checkerâs pic having a âhuge camera advantageâ yet in your video with Boris and Brady Boris was in the same position as he was yet we didnât hear anything about that. Jackson is no more favored than Boris was. And I know that this is the only part of my response that you will critique. I see exactly what you do you donât immediately respond to parts of Christian or my arguments instead you wait and do so once you have formulated an excuse as to why itâs not true or you diminish it. Everyone here sees exactly how you are and that you clearly donât have a mind of your own Andrea. Not to mention you are incredibly stubborn. If Christian and I are proven wrong either of us will admit it. You however said you would run away and never come back to this site. So that just supports you being stubborn and you continuing to insult us hoping we will just back away. Next time donât force your opinions down peopleâs throats like you do. No argument Iâve ever had here or Christian has lasted as long as this one has with you. No argument anyone has had here has.
@Andrea: if I have to hear âyou already told meâ one more time. I swear youâre the broken record. You act as if what you say is gospel or you are authority here. Thatâs why Christian and I donât respect you nor do we take you seriously. You are very annoying and sound like an annoying pest here who is very childish because we arenât seeing it your way that youâre dragging this on. And in your response back to Christian where you wouldâve ended this you wonât. I know you. You will not end it until either Christian or I donât respond back to you or until we agree or until Rob meets Boris and confirms heâs 6â3 or under.
Of course that along with the fact that youâre clearly a hypocrite saying we do things you do (you say we canât estimate height because it doesnât align with your estimates or say that one of us is lying about a height difference because we donât see it the way you do). You fail to mention any of that to either of us. Instead you bring up our past disagreements with other posters to help your argument. Itâs funny you bring up Vincent Jackson in Checkerâs pic having a âhuge camera advantageâ yet in your video with Boris and Brady Boris was in the same position as he was yet we didnât hear anything about that. Jackson is no more favored than Boris was. And I know that this is the only part of my response that you will critique. I see exactly what you do you donât immediately respond to parts of Christian or my arguments instead you wait and do so once you have formulated an excuse as to why itâs not true or you diminish it. Everyone here sees exactly how you are and that you clearly donât have a mind of your own Andrea. Not to mention you are incredibly stubborn. If Christian and I are proven wrong either of us will admit it. You however said you would run away and never come back to this site. So that just supports you being stubborn and you continuing to insult us hoping we will just back away. Next time donât force your opinions down peopleâs throats like you do. No argument Iâve ever had here or Christian has lasted as long as this one has with you. No argument anyone has had here has.
Canson said on 10/Jan/18
@Checker: Andrea sees them. Itâs just that, as Christian says, he only chooses the pics and statements of others, or other overall evidence that support his narrative. There is an excuse for every pic where Boris or Merriman look under 6â4 or specifically 6â3 or under, which in turn make Boris look too short for his argument. There is also a reference to anyone whose estimates support his narrative or where he agrees with their estimates such as when you (posted as Viper) believed that Boris could look 6â4â with Magic but now that your evidence contradicts his beliefs, it must be âtaken with a huge grain of saltâ. I could respect Andreaâs views if he respected mine yours and Christianâs but he clearly doesnât and didnât make excuses when Boris doesnât look 6â4 or when Merriman doesnât look 6â3-6â4. But instead He insults all three of us if our views donât coincide with his. He wonât admit when he is wrong as was evidenced when he said âif Boris turns out to be 6â3 or less if Rob were to meet him, he would never come back to this site out of embarrassmentâ. Not to mention look at John Cena Dennis Haysbert or Chi McBrideâs pages (especially Cena and McBride) he is clearly fishing for Rob and other posters to tell him that Boris is 6â4â compared to both of those guys. He lacks his own confidence to figure it out on his own.
I mean some common sense here, if Merrriman were 6â4 3/8 even in the morning, he wouldnât be a âweak 6â4â at a low like Andrea says unless that 6â4 3/8 were an out of bed measurement. Typically the combine measurements are only 3/8 or 1/2â higher than out of bed measurements are. So he may be 6â3 7/8 or 6â4 which is a solid 6â4â as there is no difference in appearance between them. Thatâs just another excuse that he makes in an ever increasing laundry list here in this debate. He wonât accept the fact that Merriman is 6â2â instead that measurement is âlikely the one with the errorâ because in his mind Merriman looks 6â3-4â. Funny part is I though the same about Boris and Merriman. Never believed Boris as 6â4â but first time I posted on him thought 6â3.5 possibly or 6â3-6â3.5 but now I donât. And remember I thought Shawne was about 6â4â but clearly heâs not. At least when Iâm wrong and itâs the same for Christian having interacted with him over the last 3 years Iâve been on here, we will both admit if we are wrong but wrong means solid, clear evidence that we are. Meaning beyond reasonable doubt which isnât the case with either Boris or Merriman for us to be wrong. There is not enough evidence in our minds to believe either guy is close to 6â4â. Itâs just that Andrea believes he is so anyone who doesnât is stupid. He posted pics where he can look it but in your pics along with ours he doesnât. But our pics are defective because Merriman and Boris donât look â6â3-6â4â or 6â4
@Checker: Andrea sees them. Itâs just that, as Christian says, he only chooses the pics and statements of others, or other overall evidence that support his narrative. There is an excuse for every pic where Boris or Merriman look under 6â4 or specifically 6â3 or under, which in turn make Boris look too short for his argument. There is also a reference to anyone whose estimates support his narrative or where he agrees with their estimates such as when you (posted as Viper) believed that Boris could look 6â4â with Magic but now that your evidence contradicts his beliefs, it must be âtaken with a huge grain of saltâ. I could respect Andreaâs views if he respected mine yours and Christianâs but he clearly doesnât and didnât make excuses when Boris doesnât look 6â4 or when Merriman doesnât look 6â3-6â4. But instead He insults all three of us if our views donât coincide with his. He wonât admit when he is wrong as was evidenced when he said âif Boris turns out to be 6â3 or less if Rob were to meet him, he would never come back to this site out of embarrassmentâ. Not to mention look at John Cena Dennis Haysbert or Chi McBrideâs pages (especially Cena and McBride) he is clearly fishing for Rob and other posters to tell him that Boris is 6â4â compared to both of those guys. He lacks his own confidence to figure it out on his own.
I mean some common sense here, if Merrriman were 6â4 3/8 even in the morning, he wouldnât be a âweak 6â4â at a low like Andrea says unless that 6â4 3/8 were an out of bed measurement. Typically the combine measurements are only 3/8 or 1/2â higher than out of bed measurements are. So he may be 6â3 7/8 or 6â4 which is a solid 6â4â as there is no difference in appearance between them. Thatâs just another excuse that he makes in an ever increasing laundry list here in this debate. He wonât accept the fact that Merriman is 6â2â instead that measurement is âlikely the one with the errorâ because in his mind Merriman looks 6â3-4â. Funny part is I though the same about Boris and Merriman. Never believed Boris as 6â4â but first time I posted on him thought 6â3.5 possibly or 6â3-6â3.5 but now I donât. And remember I thought Shawne was about 6â4â but clearly heâs not. At least when Iâm wrong and itâs the same for Christian having interacted with him over the last 3 years Iâve been on here, we will both admit if we are wrong but wrong means solid, clear evidence that we are. Meaning beyond reasonable doubt which isnât the case with either Boris or Merriman for us to be wrong. There is not enough evidence in our minds to believe either guy is close to 6â4â. Itâs just that Andrea believes he is so anyone who doesnât is stupid. He posted pics where he can look it but in your pics along with ours he doesnât. But our pics are defective because Merriman and Boris donât look â6â3-6â4â or 6â4
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 10/Jan/18
@Andrea
Obviously you couldn't see that I was just making a tounge-and-cheek remark. If you were too unintelligent to even differentiate Jamie and Tatum, then you definitely couldn't have written lengthy comments like these. I gotta give you credit, because you have better grammar and sentence structures than the majority of the posters here. You may not be unitelligent, but you're too uptight and need to chill out, as proven by your response to the tounge-and-cheek joke I made.
As for Shawne, no way he can "Bust a Gut" to make himself 2 inches taller to be measured 6'4 3/8", so that argument about him purposefully making himself taller can be completely ruled out. And let's just say hypothetically if the NFL purposefully fabricated one of those measurements, it would make much more sense to fabricate the 6'4 3/8" rather than the 6'2 3/8", because like I said, taller is seen as more advantageous especially in a position like Linebacker. If one of those measurements was an accidental error (which I believe), I highly doubt that the 6'2 3/8" one is an error, and one of the reasons why is because people who met Shanwe says he's about 6'2" in person, and it's not like 1 or 2 people met him, it's a lot, so it can't be a coincidence that they all mistook him as being nearly 2 inches shorter than he is. So that can only mean one thing. And it's that the 6'4 3/8" listing was a 2 inch error.
And the funny thing about that pic you posted, is that camera-wise it's about as distorted as the pics I posted with Boris and The Game/Michael Jai White. Yet you're silent about the bad camera positioning in this pic just because it favors your narrative. And you can't call me a hypocrite either, because at least I acknowledged that those pics I posted had some slightly bad camera positioning. But I don't see you acknowledging about the camera positioning in this one.
As for Barkley, just because he looks 6'5"+ in some pics, doesn't mean that he's actually that tall. Same goes with Shawne, he can look a weak 6'4" in some pics such as the ones you provided, but that doesn't mean he's a weak 6'4" in reality.
And why are you keep posting the same stuff over again? This is now the third time you posted this paragraph (although some words you added). Please come up with something new, it's getting pretty boring lol. And also try to be original when you make an argument. You literally stole my "You're a lost cause" remark. Goes to show that you don't have a mind of your own, but that doesn't surprise me.
And it's hypocritical for you to criticize me when I said that you used Viper's 6'4" estimate for Boris as some type of proof that he'a 6'4", yet you did the same thing when you accused me of using Vernon's pic with Shawne as proof that he's 6'2".
And what's wrong with taking Mr. R's estimates as granted? After all, he's a credible and truthful poster in your own words. So now you're calling him a liar now? And for the record, he's 5'11 3/8" himself, so he knows how tall a 6'0" guy is gonna look since that's very close to his height. If he's gonna guess someone as precisely as "a bit over 6'3"" (like he did Boris), then no way he's gonna mistake a 5'10" or 5'11" guy like Wayne for 6'0". So the only logical possibility is that Wayne wore lifts to the point where he looked 6'0" at that event which Mr. R met him.
@Andrea
Obviously you couldn't see that I was just making a tounge-and-cheek remark. If you were too unintelligent to even differentiate Jamie and Tatum, then you definitely couldn't have written lengthy comments like these. I gotta give you credit, because you have better grammar and sentence structures than the majority of the posters here. You may not be unitelligent, but you're too uptight and need to chill out, as proven by your response to the tounge-and-cheek joke I made.
As for Shawne, no way he can "Bust a Gut" to make himself 2 inches taller to be measured 6'4 3/8", so that argument about him purposefully making himself taller can be completely ruled out. And let's just say hypothetically if the NFL purposefully fabricated one of those measurements, it would make much more sense to fabricate the 6'4 3/8" rather than the 6'2 3/8", because like I said, taller is seen as more advantageous especially in a position like Linebacker. If one of those measurements was an accidental error (which I believe), I highly doubt that the 6'2 3/8" one is an error, and one of the reasons why is because people who met Shanwe says he's about 6'2" in person, and it's not like 1 or 2 people met him, it's a lot, so it can't be a coincidence that they all mistook him as being nearly 2 inches shorter than he is. So that can only mean one thing. And it's that the 6'4 3/8" listing was a 2 inch error.
And the funny thing about that pic you posted, is that camera-wise it's about as distorted as the pics I posted with Boris and The Game/Michael Jai White. Yet you're silent about the bad camera positioning in this pic just because it favors your narrative. And you can't call me a hypocrite either, because at least I acknowledged that those pics I posted had some slightly bad camera positioning. But I don't see you acknowledging about the camera positioning in this one.
As for Barkley, just because he looks 6'5"+ in some pics, doesn't mean that he's actually that tall. Same goes with Shawne, he can look a weak 6'4" in some pics such as the ones you provided, but that doesn't mean he's a weak 6'4" in reality.
And why are you keep posting the same stuff over again? This is now the third time you posted this paragraph (although some words you added). Please come up with something new, it's getting pretty boring lol. And also try to be original when you make an argument. You literally stole my "You're a lost cause" remark. Goes to show that you don't have a mind of your own, but that doesn't surprise me.
And it's hypocritical for you to criticize me when I said that you used Viper's 6'4" estimate for Boris as some type of proof that he'a 6'4", yet you did the same thing when you accused me of using Vernon's pic with Shawne as proof that he's 6'2".
And what's wrong with taking Mr. R's estimates as granted? After all, he's a credible and truthful poster in your own words. So now you're calling him a liar now? And for the record, he's 5'11 3/8" himself, so he knows how tall a 6'0" guy is gonna look since that's very close to his height. If he's gonna guess someone as precisely as "a bit over 6'3"" (like he did Boris), then no way he's gonna mistake a 5'10" or 5'11" guy like Wayne for 6'0". So the only logical possibility is that Wayne wore lifts to the point where he looked 6'0" at that event which Mr. R met him.
checker said on 9/Jan/18
Over 10 years ago I posted several pics from Merrimans myspace where Vernon was taller. One was at the 2008 Espys.
There was video on youtube of Vernon and Merriman being interviewed on the red carpet and Vernon looked 6'4 next to 6'2 Merriman.
Anyway, Merriman doesnt deny the 6'2 statement from Rudy Gay. Sorry Andrea.
Over 10 years ago I posted several pics from Merrimans myspace where Vernon was taller. One was at the 2008 Espys.
There was video on youtube of Vernon and Merriman being interviewed on the red carpet and Vernon looked 6'4 next to 6'2 Merriman.
Anyway, Merriman doesnt deny the 6'2 statement from Rudy Gay. Sorry Andrea.
Canson said on 9/Jan/18
Sorry Andrea, you are "accusing me of doing the things you actually do". This actually fits you better than it does Christian or me. You're still bringing stuff up that I did in the past for some reason. IT has nothing to do with this argument and I don't get what you are trying to do other than to find other ways to attack me since you obviously are making no sense here and have no response or any valid points left in you in this debate. Clearly, you're the one calling Christian and me stupid or me a liar because my estimate does not coincide with yours or saying that you must take Checker's estimate with a grain of salt because it doesn't align with yours. That is exactly what you just accused me of doing. So if you want to call me a hypocrite or say what I'm doing wrong, you must first look in the mirror. Nothing you say is a fact. And you actually did call Christian and me boyfriends before I called you a prostitute. I am 100% certain about this just as you are 100% certain that it is not true. So to be honest, you critiquing Checker's pictures, you have no common sense, your pics are no better than his, it's just another one of your world famous excuses about someone being favored because it disproves your point. You have made an excuse now about Jamie Foxx wearing lifts, about people standing on tip toes, having camera advantages, diminishing height advantages (Kobe and Boris is more than a 3 CM difference, sorry). You always run to Rob or someone else in order to prove your point or support your point which makes it "a fact in your mind". However, it's still an opinion. However, anything that contradicts what you think or how you feel is a "lie" or "wrong". I mean you were also the one that said that you "would be embarrassed if you found out Boris were 6'3 or under and never come back to this site out of embarrassment" and also "If after all of this, you still believe Boris is under 6'3, I give up" or that "because Viper who downgrades people believes Boris is 6'4" like it Is proof he did. Don't make excuses now because you did clearly say that. Now it's "You must take Checker/Viper's estimates with a grain of salt". Or because "Rob says something it must be true". Oh and you are also the one who is running to other pages very "casually" soliciting other's opinions on whether Boris is as tall as Chi McBride or John Cena etc because you are so unsure of yourself now that there actually is evidence that he is below 6'4. Even you saying he may be 192 cm is under 6'4 but I'll leave that alone.
Either way, you've not only proven that you don't respect others opinions, you have also proven that you lack confidence in yourself since you have to run to other people to do your thinking for you, you make a ton of excuses, you bash people who don't agree with you, and you are purely a hypocrite. So no don't go and call Christian a lost cause because all of that clearly describes the person you are.
Sorry Andrea, you are "accusing me of doing the things you actually do". This actually fits you better than it does Christian or me. You're still bringing stuff up that I did in the past for some reason. IT has nothing to do with this argument and I don't get what you are trying to do other than to find other ways to attack me since you obviously are making no sense here and have no response or any valid points left in you in this debate. Clearly, you're the one calling Christian and me stupid or me a liar because my estimate does not coincide with yours or saying that you must take Checker's estimate with a grain of salt because it doesn't align with yours. That is exactly what you just accused me of doing. So if you want to call me a hypocrite or say what I'm doing wrong, you must first look in the mirror. Nothing you say is a fact. And you actually did call Christian and me boyfriends before I called you a prostitute. I am 100% certain about this just as you are 100% certain that it is not true. So to be honest, you critiquing Checker's pictures, you have no common sense, your pics are no better than his, it's just another one of your world famous excuses about someone being favored because it disproves your point. You have made an excuse now about Jamie Foxx wearing lifts, about people standing on tip toes, having camera advantages, diminishing height advantages (Kobe and Boris is more than a 3 CM difference, sorry). You always run to Rob or someone else in order to prove your point or support your point which makes it "a fact in your mind". However, it's still an opinion. However, anything that contradicts what you think or how you feel is a "lie" or "wrong". I mean you were also the one that said that you "would be embarrassed if you found out Boris were 6'3 or under and never come back to this site out of embarrassment" and also "If after all of this, you still believe Boris is under 6'3, I give up" or that "because Viper who downgrades people believes Boris is 6'4" like it Is proof he did. Don't make excuses now because you did clearly say that. Now it's "You must take Checker/Viper's estimates with a grain of salt". Or because "Rob says something it must be true". Oh and you are also the one who is running to other pages very "casually" soliciting other's opinions on whether Boris is as tall as Chi McBride or John Cena etc because you are so unsure of yourself now that there actually is evidence that he is below 6'4. Even you saying he may be 192 cm is under 6'4 but I'll leave that alone.
Either way, you've not only proven that you don't respect others opinions, you have also proven that you lack confidence in yourself since you have to run to other people to do your thinking for you, you make a ton of excuses, you bash people who don't agree with you, and you are purely a hypocrite. So no don't go and call Christian a lost cause because all of that clearly describes the person you are.
Andrea said on 8/Jan/18
I never said that Akon is standing on his tiptoes for sure, Christian. All I said is that you can't rule it out in a picture like that... And calling Channing Jamie was clearly a typo, but you're probably too unintelligent to understand it... :)
As for Shawne, it's pretty clear that one of those two measurements must be wrong because there is no way that a person can measure both 6-2.4 and 6'4 3/8. And I could say the same to you: "are you saying that the latter measurement's fake and made up, or that Shawne purposefully made his body taller during the measurement?". As Rob said, sometimes errors occur. If you think that the correct measurement is the 6-2.4 one, I could even respect it, but don't say that it is a fact because I posted many photos of him with MEASURED athletes where he looks comfortably taller than that, despite you saying that "he looks about 6'2" next to measured athletes as well, not just 6'3"-6'4", when it's not really the case. And it's funny how you brought up that Vernon Davis' picture with him more than once in the past, as some kind of definite proof that Shawne wasn't more than 6'2 (despite the "quality" of it), but now that I have posted a good picture of them together where Shawne clearly looks no shorter and in fact a bit taller than him, you simply disregarded it. And in case one picture is not enough, here's another one, which is probably even better than the first one because it's a full body shot photo: Click Here If Shawne really was as low as 6'2, that would make Vernon sub-6'2...
As for Barkley, I understand your point, but that 6'4 5/8 figure still doesn't come from an official measurement and it may well be a typo, as far as we know... You're right about one thing, though. Charles himself has claimed 6'4.75 and I cannot ignore it. I mean, why would he come out with such a precise number if he's taller than that? Hmm... All I know is that he can often look over 6'5, like Rising showed on his page...
And no matter how many times I tell you, you're still in denial that you didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had NEVER mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all. Unfortunately the post that "proves" it is no longer here, but I'm 100% you did it. I remember I was going to end the discussion and you started to play the victim by bringing that boyfriend thing up again after over one month from when I told you that. If you don't believe me or you think I'm making this up, you can ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if he still has them)... You're a lost cause, Christian.
And I never used Viper's 6'4 estimate for Boris as some type of proof. What kind of proof would that be? LOL Did you or did you not read my comment (which is something I already explained in the past, btw)? I did it "to show that even a guy like him who certainly has no hidden agenda in making someone taller than he is, given that he's very well known on here for downgrading everybody by at least 1-2 inches, thought that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. That's all.". As for Mr. R, what's not clear about "He has given some unbelievable estimates in the past (and I already remarked it way before this discussion)"??? As I said, I already remarked that some of Mr. R's estimates are a bit unbelievable, so it makes no sense to say that I do it just because I disagree about his estimates for Boris and Wayne, given that it is something I did way before this discussion. Once again, you jump to conclusions. And, as I said, you take for granted the fact that other people's estimates are 100% correct and the fact that you try to justify Mr. R's 6' estimate for Wayne, by saying that Wayne could have been in lifts, proves it. I have seen many photos and videos of Wayne and there's nothing that suggests that he's a lift wearer. Plus, he works with many tall and very tall guys on that Whose Line Is It Anyway show, so if he has never worn them there, I don't see why he should wear them at some events, like the one Mr. R went to...
I never said that Akon is standing on his tiptoes for sure, Christian. All I said is that you can't rule it out in a picture like that... And calling Channing Jamie was clearly a typo, but you're probably too unintelligent to understand it... :)
As for Shawne, it's pretty clear that one of those two measurements must be wrong because there is no way that a person can measure both 6-2.4 and 6'4 3/8. And I could say the same to you: "are you saying that the latter measurement's fake and made up, or that Shawne purposefully made his body taller during the measurement?". As Rob said, sometimes errors occur. If you think that the correct measurement is the 6-2.4 one, I could even respect it, but don't say that it is a fact because I posted many photos of him with MEASURED athletes where he looks comfortably taller than that, despite you saying that "he looks about 6'2" next to measured athletes as well, not just 6'3"-6'4", when it's not really the case. And it's funny how you brought up that Vernon Davis' picture with him more than once in the past, as some kind of definite proof that Shawne wasn't more than 6'2 (despite the "quality" of it), but now that I have posted a good picture of them together where Shawne clearly looks no shorter and in fact a bit taller than him, you simply disregarded it. And in case one picture is not enough, here's another one, which is probably even better than the first one because it's a full body shot photo: Click Here If Shawne really was as low as 6'2, that would make Vernon sub-6'2...
As for Barkley, I understand your point, but that 6'4 5/8 figure still doesn't come from an official measurement and it may well be a typo, as far as we know... You're right about one thing, though. Charles himself has claimed 6'4.75 and I cannot ignore it. I mean, why would he come out with such a precise number if he's taller than that? Hmm... All I know is that he can often look over 6'5, like Rising showed on his page...
And no matter how many times I tell you, you're still in denial that you didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had NEVER mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all. Unfortunately the post that "proves" it is no longer here, but I'm 100% you did it. I remember I was going to end the discussion and you started to play the victim by bringing that boyfriend thing up again after over one month from when I told you that. If you don't believe me or you think I'm making this up, you can ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if he still has them)... You're a lost cause, Christian.
And I never used Viper's 6'4 estimate for Boris as some type of proof. What kind of proof would that be? LOL Did you or did you not read my comment (which is something I already explained in the past, btw)? I did it "to show that even a guy like him who certainly has no hidden agenda in making someone taller than he is, given that he's very well known on here for downgrading everybody by at least 1-2 inches, thought that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. That's all.". As for Mr. R, what's not clear about "He has given some unbelievable estimates in the past (and I already remarked it way before this discussion)"??? As I said, I already remarked that some of Mr. R's estimates are a bit unbelievable, so it makes no sense to say that I do it just because I disagree about his estimates for Boris and Wayne, given that it is something I did way before this discussion. Once again, you jump to conclusions. And, as I said, you take for granted the fact that other people's estimates are 100% correct and the fact that you try to justify Mr. R's 6' estimate for Wayne, by saying that Wayne could have been in lifts, proves it. I have seen many photos and videos of Wayne and there's nothing that suggests that he's a lift wearer. Plus, he works with many tall and very tall guys on that Whose Line Is It Anyway show, so if he has never worn them there, I don't see why he should wear them at some events, like the one Mr. R went to...
Andrea said on 8/Jan/18
Canson, I already told you. Stop accusing me of things you're guilty of. The only one who doesn't respect other people's opinions on here is you. It's no coincidence that you've had so many fights throughout these years. And you've been on here for a lot less time than me. And it's funny that you say that everything is an opinion now, when you always act as if what you say is the only truth on here and you have bashed so many posters for their "opinions". Your hypocrisy is really limitless.
As for Shawne, unlike you, I have seen all the photos that have been posted and in many photos that Viper has posted, I wonder why, Shawne has a noticeable camera disadvantage (like those ones with Omar Benson and Nelson Rosario, or even that one with the same Vincent Jackson you mentioned, where the camera angle is favoring the other two guys), but I understand that these things mean nothing for you. And again, I don't see why you mention Larry English, considering that he looks comfortably shorter than Shawne from those photos, so, if anything, it proves my point.
And what I said about Rising was more a general comment. It has nothing to do with Barkley. What I meant to say is that his opinion is a lot more credible than yours because unlike you, he isn't biased at all and he has a very good knowledge about everything that concerns height. And a poster isn't reliable or not only because of his estimates. There's a bunch of posters that I consider very valuable on here, but whose opinions don't always coincide with mine. That certainly doesn't make them less reliable or respectable, though.
And yeah, I did say that I'm not a shoe expert because I don't have the arrogance to say that Boris' shoes are no thicker than Kobe's (like you did when you said that Boris' shoes are "clearly" noticeably thicker than Kobe's). All I said is that Boris's shoes don't look much different than Kobe's there, to me. Just like Barkley's shoes look at least a 1/4 inch thicker than Boris' in those picture, whether you like it or not.
As for Rampage, you are a broken record. I already told you that I always had my reason for saying what I said to him and I certainly don't regret it. As I said, go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. And I certainly never insulted him like you did with most of the posters on here.
And unlike you, I don't need consensus or people agreeing with me because fortunately I'm a quite confident person. You, on the other hand, aren't able to have a single discussion without bringing your bff Christian up and you would be no one without him backing you up on almost every post. The only reason why I posted Boris' picture with John Cena on John's page was because John doesn't look much over his 6' claim next to Boris and I thought it was worth to be posted there, considering that there are some people who even think that John might be near 6'1 on his page... And you stick to the subject??? LOL Go visit Ray Fisher's and Wayne Brady's pages (just to name a couple) and see how much you stick to the subject, LMFAO. The only thing you stick to is the trash talk and the complete ignorance that marks you as one of the biggest jokes on here.
Canson, I already told you. Stop accusing me of things you're guilty of. The only one who doesn't respect other people's opinions on here is you. It's no coincidence that you've had so many fights throughout these years. And you've been on here for a lot less time than me. And it's funny that you say that everything is an opinion now, when you always act as if what you say is the only truth on here and you have bashed so many posters for their "opinions". Your hypocrisy is really limitless.
As for Shawne, unlike you, I have seen all the photos that have been posted and in many photos that Viper has posted, I wonder why, Shawne has a noticeable camera disadvantage (like those ones with Omar Benson and Nelson Rosario, or even that one with the same Vincent Jackson you mentioned, where the camera angle is favoring the other two guys), but I understand that these things mean nothing for you. And again, I don't see why you mention Larry English, considering that he looks comfortably shorter than Shawne from those photos, so, if anything, it proves my point.
And what I said about Rising was more a general comment. It has nothing to do with Barkley. What I meant to say is that his opinion is a lot more credible than yours because unlike you, he isn't biased at all and he has a very good knowledge about everything that concerns height. And a poster isn't reliable or not only because of his estimates. There's a bunch of posters that I consider very valuable on here, but whose opinions don't always coincide with mine. That certainly doesn't make them less reliable or respectable, though.
And yeah, I did say that I'm not a shoe expert because I don't have the arrogance to say that Boris' shoes are no thicker than Kobe's (like you did when you said that Boris' shoes are "clearly" noticeably thicker than Kobe's). All I said is that Boris's shoes don't look much different than Kobe's there, to me. Just like Barkley's shoes look at least a 1/4 inch thicker than Boris' in those picture, whether you like it or not.
As for Rampage, you are a broken record. I already told you that I always had my reason for saying what I said to him and I certainly don't regret it. As I said, go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. And I certainly never insulted him like you did with most of the posters on here.
And unlike you, I don't need consensus or people agreeing with me because fortunately I'm a quite confident person. You, on the other hand, aren't able to have a single discussion without bringing your bff Christian up and you would be no one without him backing you up on almost every post. The only reason why I posted Boris' picture with John Cena on John's page was because John doesn't look much over his 6' claim next to Boris and I thought it was worth to be posted there, considering that there are some people who even think that John might be near 6'1 on his page... And you stick to the subject??? LOL Go visit Ray Fisher's and Wayne Brady's pages (just to name a couple) and see how much you stick to the subject, LMFAO. The only thing you stick to is the trash talk and the complete ignorance that marks you as one of the biggest jokes on here.
Canson said on 7/Jan/18
@Checker: no way he has close to 4â with Ray Lewis. We canât see footwear but still that wouldnât make a 4â difference
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@Checker: no way he has close to 4â with Ray Lewis. We canât see footwear but still that wouldnât make a 4â difference
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Canson said on 7/Jan/18
@Checker: I agree with you on what you said. Merriman never looks above 6â2â or so. Yea we could argue maybe 6â2 and change in any pic but certainly not 6â3 let alone 6â4. With Davis heâs clearly shorter as well. Not even sure Davis measured 6â3.25 at his lowest but in person heâs not noticeably less than 6â3â. I mean he honestly looked a good 6â3 imho and thatâs how he looks on tv and in game as well. A good 6â3â
@Checker: I agree with you on what you said. Merriman never looks above 6â2â or so. Yea we could argue maybe 6â2 and change in any pic but certainly not 6â3 let alone 6â4. With Davis heâs clearly shorter as well. Not even sure Davis measured 6â3.25 at his lowest but in person heâs not noticeably less than 6â3â. I mean he honestly looked a good 6â3 imho and thatâs how he looks on tv and in game as well. A good 6â3â
checker said on 5/Jan/18
I wonder If Merriman told Rudy Gay his 6'2 height.
In Merriman's tweet back he didnt deny the 6'2 statement. So he basically admits hes 6'2.
I wonder If Merriman told Rudy Gay his 6'2 height.
In Merriman's tweet back he didnt deny the 6'2 statement. So he basically admits hes 6'2.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 4/Jan/18
@Andrea
I don't consider that pic with Akon and Boris as proof that Boris isn't more than 6'3". In fact, he looked closer to 6'2" in the pic, but that could be either due to footwear or the camera lens favoring Akon. But I would never say that Akon was standing on his tiptoes, because it's a very gross assumption.
And what's up with "As for Jamie, I agree that he doesn't seem to wear lifts next to Jamie, but for some reason he looks noticeably taller than 5'9 there (or Jamie noticeably shorter than his 6'0.5 listing, depending on how you want to see it)"? Either you made a mistake and typed Jamie instead of Tatum, or you're too unintelligent to differentiate the two.
And if Shawne was actually really measured at 6'4 3/8" at the Combine, then explain how he was also measured at 6'2.4" at the Pro Bowl. Are you saying that the latter measurement's fake and made up, or that Shawne purposefully made his body shorter during the measurement? Just to remind you, both Pro Bowl and Combine measurements are officially done by the NFL, so both are equally credible. And it would make no sense for the NFL to fabricate a fake measurement, or Shawne to purposefully make himself shorter in order to measure shorter, especially given that taller is better in a sport like football, especially with a position like Linebacker. If it's neither, then the only other possibility is that the Combine measurement listing had an error by 2 inches. And that's the one I go with.
In Barkley's case, he only had one documented measurement, and that's 6'4 5/8" at the 1992 Olympics. And the Olympics wouldn't just fabricate such a precise measurement. If Barkley was mentioned to be measured 6'5 5/8" in a separate article, then I could see a bit of a possibility for the 6'4 5/8" to be an error by an inch, but that's not the case at all. And the fact that he claimed to be 6'4.75" multiple times (although height claims should be taken with a pinch of salt), but it wouldn't make sense for him to downplay his height especially given that he's a basketball player. He also claimed 6'5.5", but that's a shoe height most likely.
And no matter how many times I tell you, you're still in denial that I mentioned the boyfriend thing a month later only to show your hypocrisy because you yourself brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute (which also happened quite long before you brought it up, so you have no room to critique me in bringing the boyfriend thing up a month later, hypocrite.) You're a lost cause, Andrea.
And you used Viper's 6'4" estimate for Boris as some type of proof that Boris' really 6'4", so yes, you do take what people here say as evidence. But only the ones that fit your narrative though. For example, you called Mr. R's estimates "unbelievable" just because you disagree when he met Boris and Wayne and said they're 6'3.25" and 6'0". We don't even know whether if Wayne was wearing lifts that could've made him appear 6'0" during the event which Mr. R met him. But it's certain that Boris' wasn't wearing lifts when Mr. R met him, since lifts would only make one taller, not shorter.
@Andrea
I don't consider that pic with Akon and Boris as proof that Boris isn't more than 6'3". In fact, he looked closer to 6'2" in the pic, but that could be either due to footwear or the camera lens favoring Akon. But I would never say that Akon was standing on his tiptoes, because it's a very gross assumption.
And what's up with "As for Jamie, I agree that he doesn't seem to wear lifts next to Jamie, but for some reason he looks noticeably taller than 5'9 there (or Jamie noticeably shorter than his 6'0.5 listing, depending on how you want to see it)"? Either you made a mistake and typed Jamie instead of Tatum, or you're too unintelligent to differentiate the two.
And if Shawne was actually really measured at 6'4 3/8" at the Combine, then explain how he was also measured at 6'2.4" at the Pro Bowl. Are you saying that the latter measurement's fake and made up, or that Shawne purposefully made his body shorter during the measurement? Just to remind you, both Pro Bowl and Combine measurements are officially done by the NFL, so both are equally credible. And it would make no sense for the NFL to fabricate a fake measurement, or Shawne to purposefully make himself shorter in order to measure shorter, especially given that taller is better in a sport like football, especially with a position like Linebacker. If it's neither, then the only other possibility is that the Combine measurement listing had an error by 2 inches. And that's the one I go with.
In Barkley's case, he only had one documented measurement, and that's 6'4 5/8" at the 1992 Olympics. And the Olympics wouldn't just fabricate such a precise measurement. If Barkley was mentioned to be measured 6'5 5/8" in a separate article, then I could see a bit of a possibility for the 6'4 5/8" to be an error by an inch, but that's not the case at all. And the fact that he claimed to be 6'4.75" multiple times (although height claims should be taken with a pinch of salt), but it wouldn't make sense for him to downplay his height especially given that he's a basketball player. He also claimed 6'5.5", but that's a shoe height most likely.
And no matter how many times I tell you, you're still in denial that I mentioned the boyfriend thing a month later only to show your hypocrisy because you yourself brought up the fact that Canson called you a prostitute (which also happened quite long before you brought it up, so you have no room to critique me in bringing the boyfriend thing up a month later, hypocrite.) You're a lost cause, Andrea.
And you used Viper's 6'4" estimate for Boris as some type of proof that Boris' really 6'4", so yes, you do take what people here say as evidence. But only the ones that fit your narrative though. For example, you called Mr. R's estimates "unbelievable" just because you disagree when he met Boris and Wayne and said they're 6'3.25" and 6'0". We don't even know whether if Wayne was wearing lifts that could've made him appear 6'0" during the event which Mr. R met him. But it's certain that Boris' wasn't wearing lifts when Mr. R met him, since lifts would only make one taller, not shorter.
Canson said on 4/Jan/18
@Andrea: I didnât say Rising has anything to do with Bobby. My point is you say Risingâs more reliable a poster only because his estimates align with yours. If his estimates didnât coincide or support your stuff then i doubt youâd feel that way. As far as him being good with all of that stuff he is not perfect like you said. He has good ones and has some very questionable ones. Usually that is the case tho if you have one person off and compare multiple people the others are going to be off and it will be a chain reaction.
@Andrea: I didnât say Rising has anything to do with Bobby. My point is you say Risingâs more reliable a poster only because his estimates align with yours. If his estimates didnât coincide or support your stuff then i doubt youâd feel that way. As far as him being good with all of that stuff he is not perfect like you said. He has good ones and has some very questionable ones. Usually that is the case tho if you have one person off and compare multiple people the others are going to be off and it will be a chain reaction.
Canson said on 4/Jan/18
@Checker: thatâs true because Cam wasnât a true Senior given what happened at Florida when he was there under Urban Meyer behind Tebow with Cam and the Laptops so he was a junior when he left Auburn. As far as Pro Day and Combine Iâve seen it both ways. Iâve seen some pro days where they are taller or shorter (only by a hair) than the Combine. But see my one article below where in 2006 they were all measured nearly half inch taller than actual. Not sure if everyone was but most were and all four or five I mentioned were. I only brought up Cam because Iâve always wondered how tall he actually is. I can see him as 195cm more so than a full 6â5. I used to think 6â5. But if he measured that early he may not be. That could even make him 6â4.5 but I can see 195 as well as a friend of my cousin is 6â5 (have met him) and he said Cam was his height. He may have spotted half inch vs 1/4â. Cam also makes guys like Kapernick look that height. Itâs also possible that the measurements arenât always that early every year. If itâs 2 hours or more itâll be a bit closer to actual. Maybe 1/4-3/8 above 1/4 ifits more than maybe 2-3 hours.but I respext a lot of what you say as a poster in terms of the Evidence you present as it is very relevant. Especially where you provided the estimate on Michael Sam on Rockâs page. That is logic in that a guy who is 6â2â isnât necessarily too small for a DE. That was Samâs biggest downfall (not his sexual orientation). His reality show didnât help but it was after His lack of height as they said he was too short for a DE and at 6â1â that makes a lot more sense as there are many 6â3âish DEâs in the league and if Sam stacked up to them as only about an inch shorter that wouldnât be that big a deal. Sam next to Rock looks nothing over maybe 186cm imho
@Checker: thatâs true because Cam wasnât a true Senior given what happened at Florida when he was there under Urban Meyer behind Tebow with Cam and the Laptops so he was a junior when he left Auburn. As far as Pro Day and Combine Iâve seen it both ways. Iâve seen some pro days where they are taller or shorter (only by a hair) than the Combine. But see my one article below where in 2006 they were all measured nearly half inch taller than actual. Not sure if everyone was but most were and all four or five I mentioned were. I only brought up Cam because Iâve always wondered how tall he actually is. I can see him as 195cm more so than a full 6â5. I used to think 6â5. But if he measured that early he may not be. That could even make him 6â4.5 but I can see 195 as well as a friend of my cousin is 6â5 (have met him) and he said Cam was his height. He may have spotted half inch vs 1/4â. Cam also makes guys like Kapernick look that height. Itâs also possible that the measurements arenât always that early every year. If itâs 2 hours or more itâll be a bit closer to actual. Maybe 1/4-3/8 above 1/4 ifits more than maybe 2-3 hours.but I respext a lot of what you say as a poster in terms of the Evidence you present as it is very relevant. Especially where you provided the estimate on Michael Sam on Rockâs page. That is logic in that a guy who is 6â2â isnât necessarily too small for a DE. That was Samâs biggest downfall (not his sexual orientation). His reality show didnât help but it was after His lack of height as they said he was too short for a DE and at 6â1â that makes a lot more sense as there are many 6â3âish DEâs in the league and if Sam stacked up to them as only about an inch shorter that wouldnât be that big a deal. Sam next to Rock looks nothing over maybe 186cm imho
Canson said on 4/Jan/18
@Andrea: the entire reason this has dragged on as long as it has is because you donât respect anyoneâs opinions only yours. Case in point âyou already told me that the pic with Shawne and Vernon Davis is a bad picâ. Ok thatâs your opinion. You arenât the only one who exists here. But there are multiple other pics that you obviously (as you accused Christian and me of doing) ignored. You didnât mention anything about the pic with Vincent Jackson who is clearly 2â taller minimum or English or the other guys that Checker posted. And yes you did say way back in this debate like you mentioned about him seeing Boris as 6â4â and you did use that as a âreasonâ why others should believe he is 6â4â. It was very clear. The post is now gone so thatâs the last I will mention because itâs gonna be yet another argument. But what Christian said below is absolutely corrrct had Checker/Viper not posted those pics or changed his estimate you wouldnât have even brought up the part about taking his estimates with a grain of salt. And as far as you agreeing with Risingâs estimates over mine I can care less. You will take anyoneâs estimates that support your argument or that fit it to make your points. I havenât seen any evidence where Barkley looks well over 6â5â maybe a full 6â5â but his teammates coaches others in the league along with people who have met him know how tall he is better than you me Christian or Rising do so if it comes down to believing them vs you then thatâs easy as well on my part. You donât give anyone a reason to believe you or even listen when you deflect attention the way you do, make excuses and belittle. Such as claiming Foxx wears lifts or that some people stand on their tippytoes etc when there is no evidence and no im not talking about Padalecki. And you commenting on Barkley having a footwear advantage you were the one who said you arenât an expert in shoes. That was back on 03 November 17. Go look if you donât believe me. Oh But I forgot that was when Boris had the footwear advantage on Kobe so of course you play dumb there and donât see it because it discredits your argument. Of course if that had been me, you wouldâve accused me of lying as would be the same with Christian. Youâd be accusing both of us of that if we donât see the same thing. Yet with Barkley even tho you arenât a shoe expert itâs the first thing you brought up as an excuse about the height difference trying to diminish it. So no need to say anything more about that. Itâs very evident.
And as far as Rampage you have had more than one argument with him. You going into the arguments that Christian and I have gotten into with other posters, at this stage, is just another reason for you to continue to play âvictimâ which is what you are good at because you see that no one is siding with you or just agreeing with you and shutting up. Unfortunately this is an opinion based site so that isnât gonna happen. It seems as if you are doing that to try to discredit us as posters rather than focusing on this debate or even worse trying to get people to step into to the argument to protect you or go against you so that you can use their comments against us to feel validated. Itâs just like you going onto other pages such as Cenaâs asking every poster in a very indirect way of Cena makes Boris look 6â4â? Itâs very clear youâre âfishingâ there. Thatâs why I say you donât have a mind of your own. You donât see Christian or me doing that. We stick to the subject. You presented your evidence and tried on your part but when we argued against it all you got very defensive, personal, and then attacked us. And accused us of doing what you did and do. Which is hypocritical.
As far as the comments about me calling you a prostitute that was after you called us boyfriends. Just because you say it wasnât doesnt make it true. It again is anything you say is gospel and anything anyone else says is stupid or a lie if it isnât consistent with your views. Of course you will take anything anyone says that supports anything you mentioned here such as Charles Barkley being above 6â5 etc. and now youâre saying that the measurement isnât true?
My bad you did mention English and made an excuse for it yet some of your pics with Boris looking 6â4 supposedly are aligned the same in terms of layout but those are good pics?
@Andrea: the entire reason this has dragged on as long as it has is because you donât respect anyoneâs opinions only yours. Case in point âyou already told me that the pic with Shawne and Vernon Davis is a bad picâ. Ok thatâs your opinion. You arenât the only one who exists here. But there are multiple other pics that you obviously (as you accused Christian and me of doing) ignored. You didnât mention anything about the pic with Vincent Jackson who is clearly 2â taller minimum or English or the other guys that Checker posted. And yes you did say way back in this debate like you mentioned about him seeing Boris as 6â4â and you did use that as a âreasonâ why others should believe he is 6â4â. It was very clear. The post is now gone so thatâs the last I will mention because itâs gonna be yet another argument. But what Christian said below is absolutely corrrct had Checker/Viper not posted those pics or changed his estimate you wouldnât have even brought up the part about taking his estimates with a grain of salt. And as far as you agreeing with Risingâs estimates over mine I can care less. You will take anyoneâs estimates that support your argument or that fit it to make your points. I havenât seen any evidence where Barkley looks well over 6â5â maybe a full 6â5â but his teammates coaches others in the league along with people who have met him know how tall he is better than you me Christian or Rising do so if it comes down to believing them vs you then thatâs easy as well on my part. You donât give anyone a reason to believe you or even listen when you deflect attention the way you do, make excuses and belittle. Such as claiming Foxx wears lifts or that some people stand on their tippytoes etc when there is no evidence and no im not talking about Padalecki. And you commenting on Barkley having a footwear advantage you were the one who said you arenât an expert in shoes. That was back on 03 November 17. Go look if you donât believe me. Oh But I forgot that was when Boris had the footwear advantage on Kobe so of course you play dumb there and donât see it because it discredits your argument. Of course if that had been me, you wouldâve accused me of lying as would be the same with Christian. Youâd be accusing both of us of that if we donât see the same thing. Yet with Barkley even tho you arenât a shoe expert itâs the first thing you brought up as an excuse about the height difference trying to diminish it. So no need to say anything more about that. Itâs very evident.
And as far as Rampage you have had more than one argument with him. You going into the arguments that Christian and I have gotten into with other posters, at this stage, is just another reason for you to continue to play âvictimâ which is what you are good at because you see that no one is siding with you or just agreeing with you and shutting up. Unfortunately this is an opinion based site so that isnât gonna happen. It seems as if you are doing that to try to discredit us as posters rather than focusing on this debate or even worse trying to get people to step into to the argument to protect you or go against you so that you can use their comments against us to feel validated. Itâs just like you going onto other pages such as Cenaâs asking every poster in a very indirect way of Cena makes Boris look 6â4â? Itâs very clear youâre âfishingâ there. Thatâs why I say you donât have a mind of your own. You donât see Christian or me doing that. We stick to the subject. You presented your evidence and tried on your part but when we argued against it all you got very defensive, personal, and then attacked us. And accused us of doing what you did and do. Which is hypocritical.
As far as the comments about me calling you a prostitute that was after you called us boyfriends. Just because you say it wasnât doesnt make it true. It again is anything you say is gospel and anything anyone else says is stupid or a lie if it isnât consistent with your views. Of course you will take anything anyone says that supports anything you mentioned here such as Charles Barkley being above 6â5 etc. and now youâre saying that the measurement isnât true?
My bad you did mention English and made an excuse for it yet some of your pics with Boris looking 6â4 supposedly are aligned the same in terms of layout but those are good pics?
Andrea said on 4/Jan/18
Even if Jared's feet weren't visible, you could have easily told that Jared was standing on his tiptoes. And I never jumped to conclusions. All I said is that in a picture like that you can't rule it out, considering that you seemed to consider it like the definite proof that Boris isn't more than 6'3. As for Jamie, I agree that he doesn't seem to wear lifts next to Jamie, but for some reason he looks noticeably taller than 5'9 there (or Jamie noticeably shorter than his 6'0.5 listing, depending on how you want to see it). Just like he does in that picture with Boris...
And the difference between Shawne and Barkley is that Shawne's measurement appeared on an official site, which is supposed to list MEASURED heights of NFL athletes, while Barkley' one is just a mention in an article, so I don't see how you can say that Barkley's was measured at 6'4 5/8. That being said, you can certainly say that Shawne's 6'4 3/8 is erroneous, but that's just your opinion. And people saying that Barkley is 6'4.5 or 6'4/6'5 certainly is not evidence. Again, who are these people? Have they met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Once again, you take all of that for granted.
And I don't know how many times I have to remind you, but you didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had never mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all. Unfortunately the post that "proves" it is no longer here, but I'm 100% you did it. I remember I was going to end the discussion and you started to play the victim by bringing that boyfriend thing up again after over one month from when I told you that. If you don't believe me or you think I'm making this up, you can ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if he still has them)... And the reason why I bring up old stuff of you and Canson is to show your hypocrisy, certainly not to play the victim like you did with that boyfriend thing.
P.S. Once again, you jump to conclusions. I NEVER take what random people on here say as gospel (or as some kind of evidence). Just because you're used to do it doesn't mean that everybody must do the same. Especially if these people are Viper... Same thing for Mr. R. He has given some unbelievable estimates in the past (and I already remarked it way before this discussion), but I respect him and I think he's a lot more truthful in what he says than many people on here. Mr. R also said that Wayne Brady is a "full blown 6 foot" in person, but I still think that he's 5'11 MAX. If I really wanted to "make" Boris as tall as at least 6'4 (or over in this case), I would have taken that estimate as gospel as well. In fact Wayne at 6' would put Boris at over 6'5. I didn't, though. I didn't because, from what I've seen, Wayne doesn't look over 5'11 to me and I wouldn't be surprised if he dipped a fraction under it.
Even if Jared's feet weren't visible, you could have easily told that Jared was standing on his tiptoes. And I never jumped to conclusions. All I said is that in a picture like that you can't rule it out, considering that you seemed to consider it like the definite proof that Boris isn't more than 6'3. As for Jamie, I agree that he doesn't seem to wear lifts next to Jamie, but for some reason he looks noticeably taller than 5'9 there (or Jamie noticeably shorter than his 6'0.5 listing, depending on how you want to see it). Just like he does in that picture with Boris...
And the difference between Shawne and Barkley is that Shawne's measurement appeared on an official site, which is supposed to list MEASURED heights of NFL athletes, while Barkley' one is just a mention in an article, so I don't see how you can say that Barkley's was measured at 6'4 5/8. That being said, you can certainly say that Shawne's 6'4 3/8 is erroneous, but that's just your opinion. And people saying that Barkley is 6'4.5 or 6'4/6'5 certainly is not evidence. Again, who are these people? Have they met him in person? Do they have a good idea about height and how to gauge it in person? Once again, you take all of that for granted.
And I don't know how many times I have to remind you, but you didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had never mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all. Unfortunately the post that "proves" it is no longer here, but I'm 100% you did it. I remember I was going to end the discussion and you started to play the victim by bringing that boyfriend thing up again after over one month from when I told you that. If you don't believe me or you think I'm making this up, you can ask Rob to retrieve the old comments (if he still has them)... And the reason why I bring up old stuff of you and Canson is to show your hypocrisy, certainly not to play the victim like you did with that boyfriend thing.
P.S. Once again, you jump to conclusions. I NEVER take what random people on here say as gospel (or as some kind of evidence). Just because you're used to do it doesn't mean that everybody must do the same. Especially if these people are Viper... Same thing for Mr. R. He has given some unbelievable estimates in the past (and I already remarked it way before this discussion), but I respect him and I think he's a lot more truthful in what he says than many people on here. Mr. R also said that Wayne Brady is a "full blown 6 foot" in person, but I still think that he's 5'11 MAX. If I really wanted to "make" Boris as tall as at least 6'4 (or over in this case), I would have taken that estimate as gospel as well. In fact Wayne at 6' would put Boris at over 6'5. I didn't, though. I didn't because, from what I've seen, Wayne doesn't look over 5'11 to me and I wouldn't be surprised if he dipped a fraction under it.
Andrea said on 3/Jan/18
Canson, for the last time, I've never insulted anyone on here. You did it a lot, though. Not only with me. You mentioned 6'3, bobby and Rampage. All I said to 6'3 (that, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if turned out to be Viper, under one of his many names) and bobby was calling their estimates bad estimates. Where are the insults? As for Rampage, I honestly don't remember if I've ever "insulted" him, but again go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. As I said, I don't regret anything I've said to him. So stop saying I insult people and accusing me of things you're guilty of. Again, your comments speak for themselves. You are one of the most toxic posters on here and most of the time it happens just because you can't accept that people disagree with you.
And yeah, I did mention Viper in the past when he said that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. Not as some kind of proof (I certainly don't need it), but to show that even a guy like him who certainly has no hidden agenda in making someone taller than he is, given that he's very well known on here for downgrading everybody by at least 1-2 inches, thought that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. That's all. Let's not forget that Viper is the same guy who insists that a guy like Michael Irvin, that you said you met and looked around 6'2 in person, is no more than 6'...
As for Shawne, I don't see how you can still say that he looks no taller than Larry English, when he actually looks comfortably taller than him. And it's funny how you basically disregarded every picture I have posted (which is typical of you) because in your mind Shawne already is no more than 6'2 range. What about Vernon Davis? I know that you or Christian posted that photo of him with Shawne which, in your opinion, was the definite proof that Shawne can't be over 6'2. If you remember well, I said that that picture with Vernon was quite bad and really proved nothing, considering that it was being shot from a very bad angle and that there was even some tilt in Vernon's favour. Of course, given that you seem to have no clue about things like camera angles and camera advantages, you probably thought/think that it's just an excuse, like you always do... It would certainly be interesting to find a good photo of them together though, considering that you said that you met Vernon and that he looked a decent 6'3 in person... Oh wait, look what I just found: Click Here :) Now, if Shawne really was as low as 6'2, that would make Vernon a weak 6'2. And I dare you to deny it (even though, with you, you never know)... Again, look at him with listed 6'4.5 Armie Hammer: Click Here As I said, somewhere between 6'3 and 6'4 is quite possible for Shawne and maybe he got measured around that 6'4 3/8 mark very early in the morning and maybe with a Bust a Gut measurement, kinda similar to how Pique, who I think could be closer to 192 at his low, managed to measure almost 195 once.
And what has Rising to do with bobby? You have this habit of making comparisons between things that have nothing to do with each other. Speaking of Bobby, the thing I accused you of was taking everything he says for granted (both the fact that he really met the celebrities he says he met and the fact that his estimates are 100% correct). And you seem to do that a lot on here (of course only when what they say is fine for you). As I said, first of all, people make up all kind of stories on the internet, especially on this site. So I would always take what they say on here with a large pinch of salt. And even if they're telling the truth (which doesn't happen as often as you'd think), this doesn't necessarily mean that their estimates are perfect. Not everybody is as good as Rob when it comes to guessing heights in person. As for Rising, I don't think he's ever met any celebrity. All I said was that, IMO, Rising is one of the best posters on here. He doesn't post things with bias, but only facts. And he has a very good knowledge about height differences, camera tricks, etc. Unlike someone else... Sure, he may not be a perfect poster like you say (nobody is), but there are good and bad posters. Many posters on here (that I won't name because I don't want to start new fights) are just big jokes to me. Only a small percentage of them are truly valuable, IMO. Rising certainly is one of them. And, as I said, he made some very good points on Charles's page for which Charles can often look over 6'5, whether you like it or not. I myself haven't seen that much of Charles, to be fair, but if it's your opinion against Rising's, I'm certainly gonna go with the latter one with my eyes closed.
Canson, for the last time, I've never insulted anyone on here. You did it a lot, though. Not only with me. You mentioned 6'3, bobby and Rampage. All I said to 6'3 (that, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if turned out to be Viper, under one of his many names) and bobby was calling their estimates bad estimates. Where are the insults? As for Rampage, I honestly don't remember if I've ever "insulted" him, but again go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. As I said, I don't regret anything I've said to him. So stop saying I insult people and accusing me of things you're guilty of. Again, your comments speak for themselves. You are one of the most toxic posters on here and most of the time it happens just because you can't accept that people disagree with you.
And yeah, I did mention Viper in the past when he said that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. Not as some kind of proof (I certainly don't need it), but to show that even a guy like him who certainly has no hidden agenda in making someone taller than he is, given that he's very well known on here for downgrading everybody by at least 1-2 inches, thought that Boris looked at least 6'4 next to Magic. That's all. Let's not forget that Viper is the same guy who insists that a guy like Michael Irvin, that you said you met and looked around 6'2 in person, is no more than 6'...
As for Shawne, I don't see how you can still say that he looks no taller than Larry English, when he actually looks comfortably taller than him. And it's funny how you basically disregarded every picture I have posted (which is typical of you) because in your mind Shawne already is no more than 6'2 range. What about Vernon Davis? I know that you or Christian posted that photo of him with Shawne which, in your opinion, was the definite proof that Shawne can't be over 6'2. If you remember well, I said that that picture with Vernon was quite bad and really proved nothing, considering that it was being shot from a very bad angle and that there was even some tilt in Vernon's favour. Of course, given that you seem to have no clue about things like camera angles and camera advantages, you probably thought/think that it's just an excuse, like you always do... It would certainly be interesting to find a good photo of them together though, considering that you said that you met Vernon and that he looked a decent 6'3 in person... Oh wait, look what I just found: Click Here :) Now, if Shawne really was as low as 6'2, that would make Vernon a weak 6'2. And I dare you to deny it (even though, with you, you never know)... Again, look at him with listed 6'4.5 Armie Hammer: Click Here As I said, somewhere between 6'3 and 6'4 is quite possible for Shawne and maybe he got measured around that 6'4 3/8 mark very early in the morning and maybe with a Bust a Gut measurement, kinda similar to how Pique, who I think could be closer to 192 at his low, managed to measure almost 195 once.
And what has Rising to do with bobby? You have this habit of making comparisons between things that have nothing to do with each other. Speaking of Bobby, the thing I accused you of was taking everything he says for granted (both the fact that he really met the celebrities he says he met and the fact that his estimates are 100% correct). And you seem to do that a lot on here (of course only when what they say is fine for you). As I said, first of all, people make up all kind of stories on the internet, especially on this site. So I would always take what they say on here with a large pinch of salt. And even if they're telling the truth (which doesn't happen as often as you'd think), this doesn't necessarily mean that their estimates are perfect. Not everybody is as good as Rob when it comes to guessing heights in person. As for Rising, I don't think he's ever met any celebrity. All I said was that, IMO, Rising is one of the best posters on here. He doesn't post things with bias, but only facts. And he has a very good knowledge about height differences, camera tricks, etc. Unlike someone else... Sure, he may not be a perfect poster like you say (nobody is), but there are good and bad posters. Many posters on here (that I won't name because I don't want to start new fights) are just big jokes to me. Only a small percentage of them are truly valuable, IMO. Rising certainly is one of them. And, as I said, he made some very good points on Charles's page for which Charles can often look over 6'5, whether you like it or not. I myself haven't seen that much of Charles, to be fair, but if it's your opinion against Rising's, I'm certainly gonna go with the latter one with my eyes closed.
Canson said on 3/Jan/18
@Checker: heâs clearly shorter than Both guys. The most I can buy for Merriman is 6â2 1/4 probably at his low but can look a classic 6â2 as well
@Checker: heâs clearly shorter than Both guys. The most I can buy for Merriman is 6â2 1/4 probably at his low but can look a classic 6â2 as well
Canson said on 3/Jan/18
@Christian: I agree and he also said Viper was both Free and checker. I know Heâs Checker for a fact but Viper never denied it when Thereel and Vegas and Rob or anyone else called him Viper when he posted as Checker so donât think heâs hiding it. But I think he gets a bad rep because people think he downgrades but to be honest I have more respect for him than many other posters because he backs up his claims with evidence where as many others here will just use pre draft claims and inflate others accordingly such as Charles Barkley or someone else to make someone say Dwayne Wade or the Rock or another celeb to be taller than they actually are. My only point to Andrea was that he initially said that âeven Viper says Boris looks 6â4â whereas now VIPER as Checker says heâs 6â3 at best and now the claim must be taken with a grain of salt. So everything you said I completely agree with.
@Christian: I agree and he also said Viper was both Free and checker. I know Heâs Checker for a fact but Viper never denied it when Thereel and Vegas and Rob or anyone else called him Viper when he posted as Checker so donât think heâs hiding it. But I think he gets a bad rep because people think he downgrades but to be honest I have more respect for him than many other posters because he backs up his claims with evidence where as many others here will just use pre draft claims and inflate others accordingly such as Charles Barkley or someone else to make someone say Dwayne Wade or the Rock or another celeb to be taller than they actually are. My only point to Andrea was that he initially said that âeven Viper says Boris looks 6â4â whereas now VIPER as Checker says heâs 6â3 at best and now the claim must be taken with a grain of salt. So everything you said I completely agree with.
checker said on 3/Jan/18
Tim Tebow only looks 6'0 with 6'3.3 senior bowl measured Marcus Spears Click Here
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Marcus Spears certaintly looks taller with him than 6'2 Merriman does.
Canson, Cam Newton never went to the senior bowl. Senior bowl measurements are usually the shortest, and pro day measurements are usually the highest, with combine measurements in the middle.
Tim Tebow only looks 6'0 with 6'3.3 senior bowl measured Marcus Spears Click Here
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Marcus Spears certaintly looks taller with him than 6'2 Merriman does.
Canson, Cam Newton never went to the senior bowl. Senior bowl measurements are usually the shortest, and pro day measurements are usually the highest, with combine measurements in the middle.
Christian-6'5 3/8 said on 2/Jan/18
@Canson
Andrea just likes to pick and choose people's comments that fits his narrative. I guarantee you that if Viper said he sees Boris as 6'3", Andrea would've bashed him and said that he downgraded yet another celeb. And if someone like Cheker or Free or various posters said that Shawne looked 6'3"-6'4" in person, he would've took it as gospel. But because they said Shawe's 6'2", they should be "taken with a large pich of salt" according to Andrea. And if Mr. R said that Boris looked 6'4" in person, Andrea would've took it as gospel as well. But because Mr. R said that Boris was no higher than 6'3.25", his estimate was "unbelievable" according to Andrea.
@Canson
Andrea just likes to pick and choose people's comments that fits his narrative. I guarantee you that if Viper said he sees Boris as 6'3", Andrea would've bashed him and said that he downgraded yet another celeb. And if someone like Cheker or Free or various posters said that Shawne looked 6'3"-6'4" in person, he would've took it as gospel. But because they said Shawe's 6'2", they should be "taken with a large pich of salt" according to Andrea. And if Mr. R said that Boris looked 6'4" in person, Andrea would've took it as gospel as well. But because Mr. R said that Boris was no higher than 6'3.25", his estimate was "unbelievable" according to Andrea.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 2/Jan/18
@Andrea
You may make a good point, but the difference between Momoa and Padalecki is that there's proof Padalecki stood on his tiptoes because his feet are visible, while Momoa's aren't. So unless there's visible proof, I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Same goes with Jamie's pics. Unless there's another pic with Boris where his feet are shown and look like he wore lifts, I'll assume that he didn't wear them. And he has nothing to gain by wearing lifts next to a much taller guy like Boris, because he'll still be towered over regardless. It would make much more sense for him to wear them next to someone like Tatum who's only a few inches taller. And if he didn't even wear lifts next to Tatum, what are the chances of him wearing lifts next to Boris? Plus, he doesn't have a reputation of being a lift/elevator wearer, unlike guys like Tom Cruise, Robert Downey and Vin Diesel.
And Shawne's 6'4 3/8" measurement isn't any more credible or official than Barkley's 6'4 5/8". In fact, the NFL sometimes makes errors. I know a lot of players whose listing on their Couchscout are lower than Nfldraftscout. For example, Aaron Rodgers is listed 6'2" on Nfldraftscout Click Here but listed 6'1.5" on Couchscout Click Here and the 6'1.5" makes more sense since he looks no higher than than that next to everyone. But Barkley looks his 6'4 5/8" plus people say he's 6'4.5" or 6'4"/6'5" so I have no reason to doubt that measurement. And athletes can sometimes look taller than their measurements, like how Barkley can at times look 6'5"+, or how Shawne can at times look 6'3"-6'4" like the pics you provided, but that still doesn't negate their measurements.
And I don't know how many times I have to remind you, but I only brought it up a month later to show your hypocrisy when you got personal against Canson after he joked about you being a prostitute. And you still bring up stuff about Canson and I that happened like a half a year ago, such as when we argued with other posters in the past, so why is it that I'm not allowed to bring up stuff that happened only a month prior? Seems like you're playing the biggest victim here when you're so concered about our past so much.
@Andrea
You may make a good point, but the difference between Momoa and Padalecki is that there's proof Padalecki stood on his tiptoes because his feet are visible, while Momoa's aren't. So unless there's visible proof, I wouldn't jump to conclusions. Same goes with Jamie's pics. Unless there's another pic with Boris where his feet are shown and look like he wore lifts, I'll assume that he didn't wear them. And he has nothing to gain by wearing lifts next to a much taller guy like Boris, because he'll still be towered over regardless. It would make much more sense for him to wear them next to someone like Tatum who's only a few inches taller. And if he didn't even wear lifts next to Tatum, what are the chances of him wearing lifts next to Boris? Plus, he doesn't have a reputation of being a lift/elevator wearer, unlike guys like Tom Cruise, Robert Downey and Vin Diesel.
And Shawne's 6'4 3/8" measurement isn't any more credible or official than Barkley's 6'4 5/8". In fact, the NFL sometimes makes errors. I know a lot of players whose listing on their Couchscout are lower than Nfldraftscout. For example, Aaron Rodgers is listed 6'2" on Nfldraftscout Click Here but listed 6'1.5" on Couchscout Click Here and the 6'1.5" makes more sense since he looks no higher than than that next to everyone. But Barkley looks his 6'4 5/8" plus people say he's 6'4.5" or 6'4"/6'5" so I have no reason to doubt that measurement. And athletes can sometimes look taller than their measurements, like how Barkley can at times look 6'5"+, or how Shawne can at times look 6'3"-6'4" like the pics you provided, but that still doesn't negate their measurements.
And I don't know how many times I have to remind you, but I only brought it up a month later to show your hypocrisy when you got personal against Canson after he joked about you being a prostitute. And you still bring up stuff about Canson and I that happened like a half a year ago, such as when we argued with other posters in the past, so why is it that I'm not allowed to bring up stuff that happened only a month prior? Seems like you're playing the biggest victim here when you're so concered about our past so much.
Canson said on 2/Jan/18
@Checker: this article confirms at least in 2006 draft that the measurements were in the 6am hour which explains why theyâre 1/2â or cm for some taller. Which makes sense as some will have lost Maybe 1/4â or so just from waking and going to take the drug test and thatâs assuming the senior bowl measurements are a normal low but we can say they are close enough as most would likely only dip 1/8â
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@Checker: this article confirms at least in 2006 draft that the measurements were in the 6am hour which explains why theyâre 1/2â or cm for some taller. Which makes sense as some will have lost Maybe 1/4â or so just from waking and going to take the drug test and thatâs assuming the senior bowl measurements are a normal low but we can say they are close enough as most would likely only dip 1/8â
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Canson said on 2/Jan/18
Checker: seeing this there appears to be a cm to 0.6â difference between every playerâs pro day and combine heights
Charley whitehurst 6â4.75/6â4.2
Jay Cutler 6â3.25/6â2.7
Marcedes Lewis 6â6 3/8 6â5.7
Nick Mangold 6â3 5/8 6â3.2
Deangelo Williams 5â9/ 5â8.4
These are just a few but it shows that they are either morning measurements or have been slightly inflated. Thereâs no way that all of these players grew half inch.
Youâre from the DC area so you may be familiar with Chris Cooleyâs show that he has on ESPN 980. He mentioned once that peopleâs heights are usually half inch taller than actual at the combine (didnât mention anything about Pro Day disparity) but mentioned that they are measured half inch taller. However in regards to Merriman that is a pure discrepancy there as itâs 2 full inches above his Pro Day listing. I also remember reading an article about Joe Flacco where it said he stopped growing âjust shy of 6â6â. That would make him 6â5 7/8 or 3/4. Someone who has met him said heâs 6â5/6â6 in person
Checker: seeing this there appears to be a cm to 0.6â difference between every playerâs pro day and combine heights
Charley whitehurst 6â4.75/6â4.2
Jay Cutler 6â3.25/6â2.7
Marcedes Lewis 6â6 3/8 6â5.7
Nick Mangold 6â3 5/8 6â3.2
Deangelo Williams 5â9/ 5â8.4
These are just a few but it shows that they are either morning measurements or have been slightly inflated. Thereâs no way that all of these players grew half inch.
Youâre from the DC area so you may be familiar with Chris Cooleyâs show that he has on ESPN 980. He mentioned once that peopleâs heights are usually half inch taller than actual at the combine (didnât mention anything about Pro Day disparity) but mentioned that they are measured half inch taller. However in regards to Merriman that is a pure discrepancy there as itâs 2 full inches above his Pro Day listing. I also remember reading an article about Joe Flacco where it said he stopped growing âjust shy of 6â6â. That would make him 6â5 7/8 or 3/4. Someone who has met him said heâs 6â5/6â6 in person
Canson said on 2/Jan/18
@Checker: what did Cam Newton measure at the senior bowl? Some of the guys here measure apparently half inch below whereas others are within a fraction or so.
@Checker: what did Cam Newton measure at the senior bowl? Some of the guys here measure apparently half inch below whereas others are within a fraction or so.
Canson said on 2/Jan/18
Good point Checker. He is no taller than Larry English. Merriman is 6â2 plain and simple. Heâs clearly shorter than Vernon Davis who is for sure 6â3â in person like his combine measurement States.
Good point Checker. He is no taller than Larry English. Merriman is 6â2 plain and simple. Heâs clearly shorter than Vernon Davis who is for sure 6â3â in person like his combine measurement States.
checker said on 2/Jan/18
Andrea, the NFL officially documented Merriman measuring 6'2 at his pro day. Click Here
Just give it up.
Oh yeah, here he is on draft day Click Here next to 6'2.6 Luis Castillo and 6'4.3 senior bowl measured Vincent Jackson Click Here
Andrea, the NFL officially documented Merriman measuring 6'2 at his pro day. Click Here
Just give it up.
Oh yeah, here he is on draft day Click Here next to 6'2.6 Luis Castillo and 6'4.3 senior bowl measured Vincent Jackson Click Here
checker said on 2/Jan/18
Better photo of 6'2 Merriman with 6'2 Larry English. Click Here
They look roughly the same height with Merriman having a footwear advantage Id say.
Better photo of 6'2 Merriman with 6'2 Larry English. Click Here
They look roughly the same height with Merriman having a footwear advantage Id say.
Canson said on 2/Jan/18
@Andrea: werenât you the one who said âeven Viper sees Boris as 6â4â a while back? And you prefaced that by saying he usually downgraded people In the past? And used that is more âpossible evidenceâ that he is since Viper is used to downgrading people. I mean you said it early on and Christian and I both remember that. Yet now youâre saying we should take his estimates with a large grain of salt? Yet his measurement for Merriman is not an estimate thatâs his pro day measurement. Not to mention had a pro basketball player refer to him as 6â2â?
@Andrea: werenât you the one who said âeven Viper sees Boris as 6â4â a while back? And you prefaced that by saying he usually downgraded people In the past? And used that is more âpossible evidenceâ that he is since Viper is used to downgrading people. I mean you said it early on and Christian and I both remember that. Yet now youâre saying we should take his estimates with a large grain of salt? Yet his measurement for Merriman is not an estimate thatâs his pro day measurement. Not to mention had a pro basketball player refer to him as 6â2â?
checker said on 2/Jan/18
Some years ago on Rudy Gay's twitter 6'7 Rudy Gay tweeted to Merriman that "You play basketball like a 6'2 Jermaine Oneal".
Some years ago on Rudy Gay's twitter 6'7 Rudy Gay tweeted to Merriman that "You play basketball like a 6'2 Jermaine Oneal".
checker said on 2/Jan/18
Kamerion Wimbley was measured at 6'3.3 at the senior bowl Click Here, and easily had an inch over 6'2 Merriman on that MTV show.
6'2 Merriman face to face with 5'11.5 Rampage Jackson. Click Here I dont even think Merriman looks a full 6'2 there.
When you are 6'2 like him you are going to look 6'1 sometimes and 6'3 sometimes in pics.
Kamerion Wimbley was measured at 6'3.3 at the senior bowl Click Here, and easily had an inch over 6'2 Merriman on that MTV show.
6'2 Merriman face to face with 5'11.5 Rampage Jackson. Click Here I dont even think Merriman looks a full 6'2 there.
When you are 6'2 like him you are going to look 6'1 sometimes and 6'3 sometimes in pics.
checker said on 1/Jan/18
Merriman with 6'5.5 Omar Benson. Click Here
Omar looks a good inch, maybe even more compared to Barkley.
Merriman with 6'5.5 Omar Benson. Click Here
Omar looks a good inch, maybe even more compared to Barkley.
checker said on 1/Jan/18
6'2 Merriman with 6'4 5/8 Barkley adds up Click Here
Compare it to Merriman with 6'5.1 Nelson Rosario Click Here
Merriman with 6'5.5 Click Here
6'2 Merriman with 6'4 5/8 Barkley adds up Click Here
Compare it to Merriman with 6'5.1 Nelson Rosario Click Here
Merriman with 6'5.5 Click Here
Canson said on 1/Jan/18
@Andrea: I think Rising is a good poster too. However, his estimates on all of the basketball players and based largely off of a draft measurement. Some are accurate others arenât. Take Dwayne Wade. Heâs not 6â3.75. Look at him with Carmelo or Kobe. And Thatâs the case with a lot of people here and when Barkley makes them look shorter they automatically upgrade him when heâs not only been measured 6â4 5/8 but all of his teammates say the height that he is.
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Not to mention Moses Malone and Dr J have both said heâs 6â4â
But if youâre going to say heâs a credible or reliable poster thatâs again an opinion that you are making a fact. Thereâs no such thing as a perfect poster. You say that Bobby3342 isnât a reliable one in your opinion whereas in mine he is a credible and reliable poster as his estimates on who he has met all add up. So everything you say is a matter of opinion not fact. It seems as if you are doing the same thing you accused me of with Bobby3342 where I go off estimates that I like and ignore the ones I donât. you are doing the same in my opinion.
@Andrea: I think Rising is a good poster too. However, his estimates on all of the basketball players and based largely off of a draft measurement. Some are accurate others arenât. Take Dwayne Wade. Heâs not 6â3.75. Look at him with Carmelo or Kobe. And Thatâs the case with a lot of people here and when Barkley makes them look shorter they automatically upgrade him when heâs not only been measured 6â4 5/8 but all of his teammates say the height that he is.
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Not to mention Moses Malone and Dr J have both said heâs 6â4â
But if youâre going to say heâs a credible or reliable poster thatâs again an opinion that you are making a fact. Thereâs no such thing as a perfect poster. You say that Bobby3342 isnât a reliable one in your opinion whereas in mine he is a credible and reliable poster as his estimates on who he has met all add up. So everything you say is a matter of opinion not fact. It seems as if you are doing the same thing you accused me of with Bobby3342 where I go off estimates that I like and ignore the ones I donât. you are doing the same in my opinion.
Canson said on 31/Dec/17
Sorry Andrea but read my post from 12/29. That essentially sums this all up for you. And you saying you donât insult people. Youâve insulted Christian Rampage Bobby 6â3â and me. So youâre a liar if youâre gonna tell us that we are. You wanna call someone a liar for not seeing the same height difference as you. I honestly believe that you believe your own lies or donât believe you are lying yet people who disagree with you are Lying
Sorry Andrea but read my post from 12/29. That essentially sums this all up for you. And you saying you donât insult people. Youâve insulted Christian Rampage Bobby 6â3â and me. So youâre a liar if youâre gonna tell us that we are. You wanna call someone a liar for not seeing the same height difference as you. I honestly believe that you believe your own lies or donât believe you are lying yet people who disagree with you are Lying
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 30/Dec/17
@Andrea
Jason would had no reason to have stood on his tiptoes because he already towered over everyone in the photo and no one was close to his height so he had no reason to make himself look taller. It would be much more sensible for David to have worn elevator shoes or lifts, although I doubt that was the case. Please use common sense. And Jamie didn't wear lifts with Tatum, because as you can see in these pics, Jamie's feet don't look bulky or sitting on a weird high angle. They look normal just like any person's would without the use of lifts Click Here Click Here Click Here This pic favors Jamie somewhat but his shoes look normal Click Here He would've needed to wear about 2.5" thick lifts or 3.5" amount of footwear if you say that he wore them, which just isn't the case because if he wore them, his feet would've looked similar to how Rob's in his 3.8" shoes would look Click Here And if you can't tell how tall Boris would've looked if White and The Game had equal advantage, then you have no room to critique those pics as bad and "prove nothing". Btw, Boris looks about 6'2.5" next to 5'8" listed Usher with no camera differences Click Here but I guess Usher's standing on his toes too, right? LOL
And you took Shawne's 6'4 3/8" "measurement" for granted by saying that was his morning height and drop down to weak 6'4" at his lowest. Because after all, you believe his measurement to be legit. He looks about 6'2" next to measured athletes as well, not just 6'3"-6'4". And like I said, if he was really 6'3"-6'4", then he wouldn't have been mistaken for 6'2" when various people met him. And Barkley can't be anymore than his measured 6'4 5/8". It's ridiculous to estimate him at 6'5"+ knowing he was measured 6'4 5/8". It's just like how some people inflate Rob to 5'8.5" despite him measuring 5'8 1/8". I like Rising as a poster but he's wrong on this one.
And if me bringing up the boyfriend thing up was way before that, then when was it? If you can't answer it, then don't jump to conclusions like that if you have no evidence. And I've said it before that I'm not perfect, I admit that I have some faults. But it's not me playing the victim card or anything. You on the other hand though, have too much ego to admit your faults. For example, you couldn't even acknowlege that you misunderstood certain things, while I did it mutliple times.
@Andrea
Jason would had no reason to have stood on his tiptoes because he already towered over everyone in the photo and no one was close to his height so he had no reason to make himself look taller. It would be much more sensible for David to have worn elevator shoes or lifts, although I doubt that was the case. Please use common sense. And Jamie didn't wear lifts with Tatum, because as you can see in these pics, Jamie's feet don't look bulky or sitting on a weird high angle. They look normal just like any person's would without the use of lifts Click Here Click Here Click Here This pic favors Jamie somewhat but his shoes look normal Click Here He would've needed to wear about 2.5" thick lifts or 3.5" amount of footwear if you say that he wore them, which just isn't the case because if he wore them, his feet would've looked similar to how Rob's in his 3.8" shoes would look Click Here And if you can't tell how tall Boris would've looked if White and The Game had equal advantage, then you have no room to critique those pics as bad and "prove nothing". Btw, Boris looks about 6'2.5" next to 5'8" listed Usher with no camera differences Click Here but I guess Usher's standing on his toes too, right? LOL
And you took Shawne's 6'4 3/8" "measurement" for granted by saying that was his morning height and drop down to weak 6'4" at his lowest. Because after all, you believe his measurement to be legit. He looks about 6'2" next to measured athletes as well, not just 6'3"-6'4". And like I said, if he was really 6'3"-6'4", then he wouldn't have been mistaken for 6'2" when various people met him. And Barkley can't be anymore than his measured 6'4 5/8". It's ridiculous to estimate him at 6'5"+ knowing he was measured 6'4 5/8". It's just like how some people inflate Rob to 5'8.5" despite him measuring 5'8 1/8". I like Rising as a poster but he's wrong on this one.
And if me bringing up the boyfriend thing up was way before that, then when was it? If you can't answer it, then don't jump to conclusions like that if you have no evidence. And I've said it before that I'm not perfect, I admit that I have some faults. But it's not me playing the victim card or anything. You on the other hand though, have too much ego to admit your faults. For example, you couldn't even acknowlege that you misunderstood certain things, while I did it mutliple times.
Anonymous said on 30/Dec/17
See what I'm talking about, Christian: Click Here In that picture you have posted Michael Jai White is standing noticeably closer to the camera AND the camera also is pretty low, which makes a huge difference. In this picture the camera is higher and you can see how things change. It is still not an "ideal" picture, but I'm not sure that Boris really would look 6'3 at most like you say (assuming that Michael is as tall as his 6'0.5 listing), especially considering that Boris seems to be leaning a bit there. It's as if we only had this picture of John Cena with Boris, where John has a big camera advantage over Boris: Click Here Although I would never use a picture like that, you would probably think that Boris doesn't look over 6'3 next to John. BUT if you look at them in a picture like this Click Here where nobody has any camera advantage, Boris looks at least 6'4 and actually even a bit more than that if John really is taller than his 6' claim...
See what I'm talking about, Christian: Click Here In that picture you have posted Michael Jai White is standing noticeably closer to the camera AND the camera also is pretty low, which makes a huge difference. In this picture the camera is higher and you can see how things change. It is still not an "ideal" picture, but I'm not sure that Boris really would look 6'3 at most like you say (assuming that Michael is as tall as his 6'0.5 listing), especially considering that Boris seems to be leaning a bit there. It's as if we only had this picture of John Cena with Boris, where John has a big camera advantage over Boris: Click Here Although I would never use a picture like that, you would probably think that Boris doesn't look over 6'3 next to John. BUT if you look at them in a picture like this Click Here where nobody has any camera advantage, Boris looks at least 6'4 and actually even a bit more than that if John really is taller than his 6' claim...
Andrea said on 29/Dec/17
Assumptions, Christian? That's the only explanation that makes sense in that photo with Jason because there is no way that Jason really is that much taller than David. As for Jamie Foxx, I just said that MAYBE he wears lifts because there is no way that he holds his own so well next to Boris. And I even posted a few pictures with Channing Tatum showing that he can look taller than his 5'9 listing, considering that he can make Channing look no more than 5'10-5'11 in more than one picture. But yeah, this certainly doesn't necessarily mean that Jamie wears lifts and I never said he does for sure. You're right about one thing, though. We can't see their feet in that picture with Jamie. It's not surprising, in fact, that in the other picture I have posted, where you CAN see their feet, Boris looks comfortably taller than that and easily around 6'4 next to the same Jamie. And how can I tell how tall Boris would look if White and The Game didn't have any camera advantage, Christian? Certainly noticeably taller than how he looks there, but it's impossible to tell how much...
And again, I never took Shawne's 6'4 3/8 measurement for granted and, after looking at him with other celebrities, I'm sure you remember that I agreed that he didn't look as tall as that. That being said, he can look more 6'3-6'4 than 6'2 with those measured athletes I have posted and with the same Boris, so I'm not so sure he really is as short as 6'2.4 (be it 6'2 4/8 or 6'2 3/8, which doesn't really make much difference, although I'm still not sure that those heights are really listed in 1/10 inches, which just complicates things). And the only reason why I say that Charles Barkley doesn't look under his 6'4.75 is because he doesn't look under that in the few photos I've seen of him. Besides the fact that, having a look at his page, Rising (who is one of the most credible and objective visitors on here) made some very good points in the past for which Charles can often look over 6'5 more than under it...
And stop lying. You didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had never mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all.
Assumptions, Christian? That's the only explanation that makes sense in that photo with Jason because there is no way that Jason really is that much taller than David. As for Jamie Foxx, I just said that MAYBE he wears lifts because there is no way that he holds his own so well next to Boris. And I even posted a few pictures with Channing Tatum showing that he can look taller than his 5'9 listing, considering that he can make Channing look no more than 5'10-5'11 in more than one picture. But yeah, this certainly doesn't necessarily mean that Jamie wears lifts and I never said he does for sure. You're right about one thing, though. We can't see their feet in that picture with Jamie. It's not surprising, in fact, that in the other picture I have posted, where you CAN see their feet, Boris looks comfortably taller than that and easily around 6'4 next to the same Jamie. And how can I tell how tall Boris would look if White and The Game didn't have any camera advantage, Christian? Certainly noticeably taller than how he looks there, but it's impossible to tell how much...
And again, I never took Shawne's 6'4 3/8 measurement for granted and, after looking at him with other celebrities, I'm sure you remember that I agreed that he didn't look as tall as that. That being said, he can look more 6'3-6'4 than 6'2 with those measured athletes I have posted and with the same Boris, so I'm not so sure he really is as short as 6'2.4 (be it 6'2 4/8 or 6'2 3/8, which doesn't really make much difference, although I'm still not sure that those heights are really listed in 1/10 inches, which just complicates things). And the only reason why I say that Charles Barkley doesn't look under his 6'4.75 is because he doesn't look under that in the few photos I've seen of him. Besides the fact that, having a look at his page, Rising (who is one of the most credible and objective visitors on here) made some very good points in the past for which Charles can often look over 6'5 more than under it...
And stop lying. You didn't bring the boyfriends thing up to show my hypocrisy when I bashed Canson for calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I couldn't care less of that and I had never mentioned it before. The only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. That's all.
Andrea said on 29/Dec/17
Canson, you are a broken record. I've never insulted anyone. At most I may have said that that this or that estimate is a bad one, but I don't see how it can be an insult. You, on the other hand, really have insulted many people on here. And Rampage says that I make things personal? Then it must be true, LOL. Go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. No wonder that you get along so well with him, LMFAO.
Canson, you are a broken record. I've never insulted anyone. At most I may have said that that this or that estimate is a bad one, but I don't see how it can be an insult. You, on the other hand, really have insulted many people on here. And Rampage says that I make things personal? Then it must be true, LOL. Go take a look at those pages where I had discussions with him and see who made things personal. No wonder that you get along so well with him, LMFAO.
Canson said on 29/Dec/17
@Andrea: itâs funny that you are bringing some of these things up about how I âinsult peopleâ or how Christian does this or that now that there is more proof and occurrences that Boris isnât 6â4â like you believe or because your foolish comments such as Jamie Fox wearing lifts or someone standing on their tippy toes or having a camera advantage or footwear or other excuse have come to light. Fact is none of us know but these are our opinions. We respected your opinion until you began to say some of this stuff to us and forcing your beliefs on us. Like telling me âif after all of these pictures you still donât believe then I give upâ. That was better left unsaid. Bottom line tho donât continue saying someone canât estimate heights or bashing them for no reason just because you donât have a response. Thatâs clearly what you are doing with both of us now. Anytime you donât like what someone has to say or it weakens or contradicts your points or beliefs, you resort to some sort of attack on your part. Or you make an excuse that someone doesnât know how to estimate or lies about height differences. Well you accusing someone of standing on tip toes or wearing lifts isnât lying?????? There is no proof that they are so it must be?? Well you donât think it is so maybe not? Bottom line just because I say something is a 4â diff vs 5â doesnât mean itâs a lie itâs that we see it differently just like you saying to Christian and me that someone has an advantage or disadvantage isnt a lie to you but to us it doesnât appear that way. Like Christian said before we donât see everything your way. We donât agree on everything you do. Just because we donât doesnât mean we are wrong and donât say you arenât doing that because you clearly are. And it could be the clearest of things not in your favor and you plead ignorance or claim it doesnât exist. Such as you saying that there is a 3cm diff with Kobe and Boris. That isnât a fact thatâs your opinion. Like you say thereâs 1.5â with Fox. Thatâs not a fact thatâs your opinion but because we donât agree with you we are wrong. However with the advantage Boris has on Brady im all of a sudden lying? I can say you are about either of the two but I choose not to so donât accuse someone of lying because they donât agree with you.
And no donât say because Rob says something is this that it is gospel. If rob has no pic with the celeb itâs not a fact even if he does he could be off. I call Rob your master because you always run to him for reassurance on your estimates. You donât see Christian or I doing that do you? And you even took it further than that on John Cenaâs page commenting and hoping someone would tell you that Boris is 6â4â basically beating around the bush to get an answer to reassure yourself he is. This was just recent so those posts are clear as day. Again you donât see Christian or I doing that. And then you use past disagreements on other pages such as saying Christian accused someone of making a celeb taller because they like them or my or his disagreements weâve gotten into with other posters hoping you can get the person one of us disagreed with or other posters here to side with you. Thatâs clear that youâre doing that because you are desperate at this point. You wouldnât be in this situation had this been a civil debate and you not started making things personal like you did. You can say youâre Joking about calling us boyfriends etc but you obviously got offended by being called a prostitute so even tho I was obviously joking because I donât know you, you didnât take it that way. Since you just like you accused Christian of brought this up over a month after it was said. That is exactly wht you do. You accuse others of doing what you do and then sweep it under the mat and try to deflect the attention off of you.
And you saying I turn something personal you have done the same. How is telling someone âYour Bad English, you mean your bad estimateâ (this is what you actually said to 6â3â below so donât try to hide that now because the post may or may not still exist) or bashing Bobby the way you did saying he canât estimate height or even Moe how you said he lost credibility or of course Rampage on Kiernneyâs page, not insulting someone? Or how is telling Christian and me that we cannot estimate height not insulting. How about just saying you donât agree wth our estimates and move on.
And Sure I retaliated against Moe the way I did but because he insulted me first repeatedly and while I probably shouldnât have I did so thatâs that. I didnât get into your disagreement with Rampage that you had and no donât tell me that it was better or worse. Doesnât matter. You have no room to critique me or Christian about criticizing people because you insult and criticize and take things personal in almost every post. Itâs just that to âyouâ it doesnât feel or appear that way or you donât believe it is yet when Christian and I challenge you you are clearly getting offended. I mean you called us boyfriends and said that itâs âcringeworthyâ that we agree on most. Why does that matter to you whether we agree? If you have to comment on something like that it obviously means that it bothers you. Just like me calling you a prostitute bothered you. Ok. You say that Christian doesnât have thick skin yet you seeing us agreeing on most either bothers you or you are bringing it up because you feel that you are being ganged up on or that nobody is taking your side. You obviously donât have thick skin either if youâre accusing him of that too. Although him bringing it up is just to show you how you act not him dwelling. Heâs showing the origin of this that is it. It very obviously and very well appears that way as you resort to having to find other posts where I attacked or he at
@Andrea: itâs funny that you are bringing some of these things up about how I âinsult peopleâ or how Christian does this or that now that there is more proof and occurrences that Boris isnât 6â4â like you believe or because your foolish comments such as Jamie Fox wearing lifts or someone standing on their tippy toes or having a camera advantage or footwear or other excuse have come to light. Fact is none of us know but these are our opinions. We respected your opinion until you began to say some of this stuff to us and forcing your beliefs on us. Like telling me âif after all of these pictures you still donât believe then I give upâ. That was better left unsaid. Bottom line tho donât continue saying someone canât estimate heights or bashing them for no reason just because you donât have a response. Thatâs clearly what you are doing with both of us now. Anytime you donât like what someone has to say or it weakens or contradicts your points or beliefs, you resort to some sort of attack on your part. Or you make an excuse that someone doesnât know how to estimate or lies about height differences. Well you accusing someone of standing on tip toes or wearing lifts isnât lying?????? There is no proof that they are so it must be?? Well you donât think it is so maybe not? Bottom line just because I say something is a 4â diff vs 5â doesnât mean itâs a lie itâs that we see it differently just like you saying to Christian and me that someone has an advantage or disadvantage isnt a lie to you but to us it doesnât appear that way. Like Christian said before we donât see everything your way. We donât agree on everything you do. Just because we donât doesnât mean we are wrong and donât say you arenât doing that because you clearly are. And it could be the clearest of things not in your favor and you plead ignorance or claim it doesnât exist. Such as you saying that there is a 3cm diff with Kobe and Boris. That isnât a fact thatâs your opinion. Like you say thereâs 1.5â with Fox. Thatâs not a fact thatâs your opinion but because we donât agree with you we are wrong. However with the advantage Boris has on Brady im all of a sudden lying? I can say you are about either of the two but I choose not to so donât accuse someone of lying because they donât agree with you.
And no donât say because Rob says something is this that it is gospel. If rob has no pic with the celeb itâs not a fact even if he does he could be off. I call Rob your master because you always run to him for reassurance on your estimates. You donât see Christian or I doing that do you? And you even took it further than that on John Cenaâs page commenting and hoping someone would tell you that Boris is 6â4â basically beating around the bush to get an answer to reassure yourself he is. This was just recent so those posts are clear as day. Again you donât see Christian or I doing that. And then you use past disagreements on other pages such as saying Christian accused someone of making a celeb taller because they like them or my or his disagreements weâve gotten into with other posters hoping you can get the person one of us disagreed with or other posters here to side with you. Thatâs clear that youâre doing that because you are desperate at this point. You wouldnât be in this situation had this been a civil debate and you not started making things personal like you did. You can say youâre Joking about calling us boyfriends etc but you obviously got offended by being called a prostitute so even tho I was obviously joking because I donât know you, you didnât take it that way. Since you just like you accused Christian of brought this up over a month after it was said. That is exactly wht you do. You accuse others of doing what you do and then sweep it under the mat and try to deflect the attention off of you.
And you saying I turn something personal you have done the same. How is telling someone âYour Bad English, you mean your bad estimateâ (this is what you actually said to 6â3â below so donât try to hide that now because the post may or may not still exist) or bashing Bobby the way you did saying he canât estimate height or even Moe how you said he lost credibility or of course Rampage on Kiernneyâs page, not insulting someone? Or how is telling Christian and me that we cannot estimate height not insulting. How about just saying you donât agree wth our estimates and move on.
And Sure I retaliated against Moe the way I did but because he insulted me first repeatedly and while I probably shouldnât have I did so thatâs that. I didnât get into your disagreement with Rampage that you had and no donât tell me that it was better or worse. Doesnât matter. You have no room to critique me or Christian about criticizing people because you insult and criticize and take things personal in almost every post. Itâs just that to âyouâ it doesnât feel or appear that way or you donât believe it is yet when Christian and I challenge you you are clearly getting offended. I mean you called us boyfriends and said that itâs âcringeworthyâ that we agree on most. Why does that matter to you whether we agree? If you have to comment on something like that it obviously means that it bothers you. Just like me calling you a prostitute bothered you. Ok. You say that Christian doesnât have thick skin yet you seeing us agreeing on most either bothers you or you are bringing it up because you feel that you are being ganged up on or that nobody is taking your side. You obviously donât have thick skin either if youâre accusing him of that too. Although him bringing it up is just to show you how you act not him dwelling. Heâs showing the origin of this that is it. It very obviously and very well appears that way as you resort to having to find other posts where I attacked or he at
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 28/Dec/17
@Andrea
All I'm saying is don't make assumptions unless there's visible proof. You did the same thing when you assumed that Jamie Foxx was perhaps wearing lifts in that photo with Boris. We can't see their feet in either pic. And if you think you're such an expert at estimating camera differences, how tall do you think Boris would've looked next to White and The Game if they all had equal camera advantage? I'd like for you to answer that. My opinion is that Boris would look at most around 6'3".
And quit lying. Yes you did take Shawne's 6'4" 3/8" measurement for granted. Had it not been for Checker posting that link of Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement, you would've still believed his 6'4 3/8" measurement was legit and believed it was just an early measurement (and you still do apparently). And you're also being a hypocrite, because you make it seem like the fact that I take Barkley's 6'4 5/8" as granted is wrong, yet it's ok for you to take Shawne's 6'4 3/8". The difference between the two, is that there's no article or document of Barkley measuring anything other than 6'4 5/8", while Shawne has 2 different measurements. Yet you say that Barkley's no shorter than 6'4.75" just because Rob lists him as that. Barkley's alleged measurement of 6'4 5/8" is sensible because people who met him say he's 6'4.5" or 6'4"-6'5", while Shawne's alleged 6'4 3/8" measurement makes no sense because people who met him say he's about 6'2". This is one of the reasons why I believe his 6'2.4" measurement was legit and the 6'4 3/8" one was an error. And 6'2.4" means 6'2 3/8", because if you convert 6'2.4" to cm, it's 188.976 which is very close to 6'2.375" which is 188.912, and 6'2 3/8" would obviously be rounded to 6'2.4" since the players are listed as 10th of an inch on that document. And reasonable or not, facts are facts. Players on that document were listed as 10th of an inch. Shawne was listed 6'2 3/8" whether you like it or not.
And about the accusation of people wanting celebs to be taller thing, while it wasn't the best accusation to make, I don't do that to everyone I disagree with. I only did it to a few people. It's not fair for you to say that I do it to everyone, just like it's not fair for me to say that you call everyone who disagrees with you who "back each other up" as boyfriends, which I don't. And I keep telling you that the only reason why I bring it up is not me being offended by it, but rather to show your hypocrisy when you bashed Canson for calling you a prostitute. It would be dumb for me to claim that because several times you brought up the fact that I said you want celebs to be taller, it means because you were offended by it. It's the same logic you're using.
@Andrea
All I'm saying is don't make assumptions unless there's visible proof. You did the same thing when you assumed that Jamie Foxx was perhaps wearing lifts in that photo with Boris. We can't see their feet in either pic. And if you think you're such an expert at estimating camera differences, how tall do you think Boris would've looked next to White and The Game if they all had equal camera advantage? I'd like for you to answer that. My opinion is that Boris would look at most around 6'3".
And quit lying. Yes you did take Shawne's 6'4" 3/8" measurement for granted. Had it not been for Checker posting that link of Shawne's 6'2.4" measurement, you would've still believed his 6'4 3/8" measurement was legit and believed it was just an early measurement (and you still do apparently). And you're also being a hypocrite, because you make it seem like the fact that I take Barkley's 6'4 5/8" as granted is wrong, yet it's ok for you to take Shawne's 6'4 3/8". The difference between the two, is that there's no article or document of Barkley measuring anything other than 6'4 5/8", while Shawne has 2 different measurements. Yet you say that Barkley's no shorter than 6'4.75" just because Rob lists him as that. Barkley's alleged measurement of 6'4 5/8" is sensible because people who met him say he's 6'4.5" or 6'4"-6'5", while Shawne's alleged 6'4 3/8" measurement makes no sense because people who met him say he's about 6'2". This is one of the reasons why I believe his 6'2.4" measurement was legit and the 6'4 3/8" one was an error. And 6'2.4" means 6'2 3/8", because if you convert 6'2.4" to cm, it's 188.976 which is very close to 6'2.375" which is 188.912, and 6'2 3/8" would obviously be rounded to 6'2.4" since the players are listed as 10th of an inch on that document. And reasonable or not, facts are facts. Players on that document were listed as 10th of an inch. Shawne was listed 6'2 3/8" whether you like it or not.
And about the accusation of people wanting celebs to be taller thing, while it wasn't the best accusation to make, I don't do that to everyone I disagree with. I only did it to a few people. It's not fair for you to say that I do it to everyone, just like it's not fair for me to say that you call everyone who disagrees with you who "back each other up" as boyfriends, which I don't. And I keep telling you that the only reason why I bring it up is not me being offended by it, but rather to show your hypocrisy when you bashed Canson for calling you a prostitute. It would be dumb for me to claim that because several times you brought up the fact that I said you want celebs to be taller, it means because you were offended by it. It's the same logic you're using.
Canson said on 28/Dec/17
@Andrea: it sounds like you are making an excuse about Merrimanâs measurement now. Just another one in the long line you have made. How can you not âseeâ him as low as 6â2.4 but you can possibly see him at 6â2.5? Like any of us can really see .1â difference in a person. That is what he measured at his pro day so thatâs what he is. And you did use the 6â4â measurement as proof to make Boris 6â4â. Sure maybe you donât believe he looks 6â4 3/8 but you saying about 6â4â when he was measured well under that amount just shows your tendency to make excuses here as usual. As far as Barkley it is not alleged thatâs what he actually measured at the olympics in 1992. Once again 6â4.75 is a 1/4â increment which is how the NBA lists there measurements. Either way if heâs really 6â4.75 at his lowest then it makes Boris no higher than 6â3. Your claiming heâs got a thicker shoe is another excuse just in the long line that you have such as accusing someone of standing on their tiptoes and accusing Jamie Foxx of wearing lifts. And you having to resort to finding posts or change the subject on someone like you do to try to attack character just shows your lack of character or your ability to be able to be able to debate. As far as footwear I donât see how Barkleyâs footwear looks any thicker than Borisâs yet you can tell for some reason a boot-like shoe doesnât look any different than a canvas shoe lol?
@Andrea: it sounds like you are making an excuse about Merrimanâs measurement now. Just another one in the long line you have made. How can you not âseeâ him as low as 6â2.4 but you can possibly see him at 6â2.5? Like any of us can really see .1â difference in a person. That is what he measured at his pro day so thatâs what he is. And you did use the 6â4â measurement as proof to make Boris 6â4â. Sure maybe you donât believe he looks 6â4 3/8 but you saying about 6â4â when he was measured well under that amount just shows your tendency to make excuses here as usual. As far as Barkley it is not alleged thatâs what he actually measured at the olympics in 1992. Once again 6â4.75 is a 1/4â increment which is how the NBA lists there measurements. Either way if heâs really 6â4.75 at his lowest then it makes Boris no higher than 6â3. Your claiming heâs got a thicker shoe is another excuse just in the long line that you have such as accusing someone of standing on their tiptoes and accusing Jamie Foxx of wearing lifts. And you having to resort to finding posts or change the subject on someone like you do to try to attack character just shows your lack of character or your ability to be able to be able to debate. As far as footwear I donât see how Barkleyâs footwear looks any thicker than Borisâs yet you can tell for some reason a boot-like shoe doesnât look any different than a canvas shoe lol?
Canson said on 28/Dec/17
@Andrea: if you want to say I insulted someone at least get facts straight first. Itâs very convenient that you only add where I insulted Moe not where he insulted me first. Yes you chose where I retaliated against someone not where they insulted me first which is about the only way that you can even remotely try to be successful at making someone look bad. And you donât want to go there with me as far as insults because again look at what you said to 6â3â about his estimates as well as Rampage. And making things personal? Rampage said it best you make everything personal. So really youâre the pot calling the kettle black. You deflect attention away from what you do onto other people and are a hypocrite because you do the exact same thing.
@Andrea: if you want to say I insulted someone at least get facts straight first. Itâs very convenient that you only add where I insulted Moe not where he insulted me first. Yes you chose where I retaliated against someone not where they insulted me first which is about the only way that you can even remotely try to be successful at making someone look bad. And you donât want to go there with me as far as insults because again look at what you said to 6â3â about his estimates as well as Rampage. And making things personal? Rampage said it best you make everything personal. So really youâre the pot calling the kettle black. You deflect attention away from what you do onto other people and are a hypocrite because you do the exact same thing.
Canson said on 28/Dec/17
@Christian: youâre right 6â2.4 is 6â2 3/8. That would read 6023 for example. I looked up Terrell Suggs measurement in the same database Checker used and his pre drafty is 6033 and says here 6â03.4 so 6â3 3/8. Apropos of little I met Suggs when he first came in the league maybe around 2005 or so and He looked about an inch shorter than me. No shorter than Vernon Davis but couldâve edged him honestly. Itâs tough to say since theyâre that close
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@Christian: youâre right 6â2.4 is 6â2 3/8. That would read 6023 for example. I looked up Terrell Suggs measurement in the same database Checker used and his pre drafty is 6033 and says here 6â03.4 so 6â3 3/8. Apropos of little I met Suggs when he first came in the league maybe around 2005 or so and He looked about an inch shorter than me. No shorter than Vernon Davis but couldâve edged him honestly. Itâs tough to say since theyâre that close
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Andrea said on 27/Dec/17
No footwear difference or "camera lens" would explain how David Benioff can look so short there, Christian. Higher ground level? That's not impossible, but Jason isn't standing much further away than David and if you look at D.B. Weiss, the way he looks there is pretty much consistent with how he generally looks next to the same David in every photo, which leads me to believe that there is no ground difference there and that Jason is probably standing on his tip toes in that photo. Of course that's not a fact, but that's the way I "explain" that picture because there is no way David would be that short, after looking at him in other pictures with other celebrities... As for Michael Jai White, he does have a huge camera advantage there. He's standing a lot closer to the camera and the camera seems pretty low, which makes a huge difference, in case you don't know. Same thing with The Game. Sure, you can say he's losing a bit of height by tilting his head to the side and having his legs wide apart, but again he has a noticeable camera advantage over Boris, which makes it impossible to tell the real difference between them there.
As for Shawne, I never took his 6'4 3/8 measurement for granted, which, in any case, never turned out to be erroneous by the way. Although I certainly do agree that he doesn't look as tall as 6'4 3/8, I'm not sure he really is as low as 6-2.4. Just like I'm not so sure that 6-2.4 really means 6'2.4. What kind of measurement is 6'2.4? You're right that there are actually a few x.8 and even a x.9 listing, but it seems more reasonable to list those heights in 1/8 inches rather than to list them that way (remember that heights are divided in 1/8 inches and not in 1/10 inches on the stadiometers).
And you say that calling you and Canson boyfriends was childish? What about "accusing" people of wanting celebrities taller than they are just because they don't agree with you? Isn't that childish as well? You did it with me (even before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page) and you do it with everyone else who disagrees with your estimates. Not that I took offence from it of course, but it was childish for you to say something like that. Besides the fact that I already explained you why I called you that way and that there was nothing personal in that remark. It was just a mere joke based on the fact that you and Canson seem to get along so well with each other and that you are not able to have a discussion on your own without bringing up the other one. And I still think it. The way you constantly back each other up on every page is truly cringeworthy! You say that you didn't take offence from it, but the fact that you brought it up again after over one month makes me think that that's not really the case and that you really don't have that thick skin you love talking about. At all.
No footwear difference or "camera lens" would explain how David Benioff can look so short there, Christian. Higher ground level? That's not impossible, but Jason isn't standing much further away than David and if you look at D.B. Weiss, the way he looks there is pretty much consistent with how he generally looks next to the same David in every photo, which leads me to believe that there is no ground difference there and that Jason is probably standing on his tip toes in that photo. Of course that's not a fact, but that's the way I "explain" that picture because there is no way David would be that short, after looking at him in other pictures with other celebrities... As for Michael Jai White, he does have a huge camera advantage there. He's standing a lot closer to the camera and the camera seems pretty low, which makes a huge difference, in case you don't know. Same thing with The Game. Sure, you can say he's losing a bit of height by tilting his head to the side and having his legs wide apart, but again he has a noticeable camera advantage over Boris, which makes it impossible to tell the real difference between them there.
As for Shawne, I never took his 6'4 3/8 measurement for granted, which, in any case, never turned out to be erroneous by the way. Although I certainly do agree that he doesn't look as tall as 6'4 3/8, I'm not sure he really is as low as 6-2.4. Just like I'm not so sure that 6-2.4 really means 6'2.4. What kind of measurement is 6'2.4? You're right that there are actually a few x.8 and even a x.9 listing, but it seems more reasonable to list those heights in 1/8 inches rather than to list them that way (remember that heights are divided in 1/8 inches and not in 1/10 inches on the stadiometers).
And you say that calling you and Canson boyfriends was childish? What about "accusing" people of wanting celebrities taller than they are just because they don't agree with you? Isn't that childish as well? You did it with me (even before this discussion, on Michael Rosenbaum's page) and you do it with everyone else who disagrees with your estimates. Not that I took offence from it of course, but it was childish for you to say something like that. Besides the fact that I already explained you why I called you that way and that there was nothing personal in that remark. It was just a mere joke based on the fact that you and Canson seem to get along so well with each other and that you are not able to have a discussion on your own without bringing up the other one. And I still think it. The way you constantly back each other up on every page is truly cringeworthy! You say that you didn't take offence from it, but the fact that you brought it up again after over one month makes me think that that's not really the case and that you really don't have that thick skin you love talking about. At all.
Andrea said on 27/Dec/17
Charles' footwear has nothing to do with Kobe's. Boris' footwear doesn't look much different than Kobe's, while in that picture with Charles it looks at least a 1/4 inch less than Charles'... And Christian said it right. Charles was ALLEGEDLY measured at 6'4 5/8. It is certainly not a fact or something (like it can be for people like Zlatan or those drafted athletes)...
And do you even know what an insult is? Since you brought 6'3 and the same moe up... All I said to 6'3 was calling his estimate a bad estimate and all I said to moe was "moe, no offence, but you already loose credibility when you say Tom is 6'2, when he is CLEARLY than 6'2 range guys!". Where are the insults? LOL You, on the other hand, really insulted him and got very personal (like you often do on this site):
"Canson said on 6/Nov/17
@Moe: and Iâm not 5â6â nor do I get jealous of guys who are taller than me. You still mad because I donât believe your boyfriend Thaler is 6â6â? And I lash out at you because you are a loser troll who wastes time and energy denigrating the opinions of others like Rampage said about you. I donât give a crap what height he claims. The Rock âclaimsâ 6â5 and there is plenty of evidence that he isnât over 6â2-6â2.5. So there you go. And I have plenty to base my opinion off of. Theler claims he only wears flat shoes. If you see any pic of him he has huge heeled shoes on. So there goes that claim. And I donât believe you didnât get fired because if you are a sorry poster and person like you are here and act the way you do I really canât see anyone hiring or wanting to have you work for them. Anyone who disagrees with you is âwrongâ. Thatâs where this all started because I didnât agree that your âboyâ theler is really 6â6â just because he claimed it. The same way that you also claim Tim Robbins is âalmost 6â6â when heâs shorter than Howard Stern and claimed 6â4.5. IF you are as bad with your job in show biz as you are with estimating height and with your people skills it makes perfect sense why you are an unemployed troll like you are. But itâs ok Moe. They have support groups for people like you who like to belittle people because they donât agree with your bs"
This is the difference between me and you...
What about this one?
"Canson said on 23/Oct/17
@TheReel: well youâre the one who first of all blasted SJH and then started saying someone is a bad person because you feel he âliedâ to a terminally ill patient all because you feel heâs 6â5.75 and that he said and was measured by his wife at 6â4.75. I donât think his wife is that dumb at least not as dumb as you. So whoâs ignorant now. Someone who has never met the man saying he lies to terminally ill patients like you do? That is beyond ignorant and stupid to even say something like that about someone you donât know. And I can care less about Kobeâs extra marital affairs. That is his business. You base your estimates for height off whether you like someone it appears which shows youâre biased. And yes I am happily married. No need to go there because I highly doubt anyone would even touch your dumbass not even a prostitute. So yes me making a comment like this to you was well warranted when you one go and attack SJH like you did and then go and make a comment about Kobe âlying to a terminally ill patient like thatâ. Youâre a ****ing piece of ****. Why donât you go to see a therapist."
And these are just two of the many insulting and trash-talking comments you are used to make. As I said, the list is pretty long...
Btw, the only one who has "sunken himself" (and constantly does) on here is you. The funny thing? You don't even realize it. As I said, your comments speak for themselves and tell a lot about your character and your credibility on here. I think there's nothing to add...
Charles' footwear has nothing to do with Kobe's. Boris' footwear doesn't look much different than Kobe's, while in that picture with Charles it looks at least a 1/4 inch less than Charles'... And Christian said it right. Charles was ALLEGEDLY measured at 6'4 5/8. It is certainly not a fact or something (like it can be for people like Zlatan or those drafted athletes)...
And do you even know what an insult is? Since you brought 6'3 and the same moe up... All I said to 6'3 was calling his estimate a bad estimate and all I said to moe was "moe, no offence, but you already loose credibility when you say Tom is 6'2, when he is CLEARLY than 6'2 range guys!". Where are the insults? LOL You, on the other hand, really insulted him and got very personal (like you often do on this site):
"Canson said on 6/Nov/17
@Moe: and Iâm not 5â6â nor do I get jealous of guys who are taller than me. You still mad because I donât believe your boyfriend Thaler is 6â6â? And I lash out at you because you are a loser troll who wastes time and energy denigrating the opinions of others like Rampage said about you. I donât give a crap what height he claims. The Rock âclaimsâ 6â5 and there is plenty of evidence that he isnât over 6â2-6â2.5. So there you go. And I have plenty to base my opinion off of. Theler claims he only wears flat shoes. If you see any pic of him he has huge heeled shoes on. So there goes that claim. And I donât believe you didnât get fired because if you are a sorry poster and person like you are here and act the way you do I really canât see anyone hiring or wanting to have you work for them. Anyone who disagrees with you is âwrongâ. Thatâs where this all started because I didnât agree that your âboyâ theler is really 6â6â just because he claimed it. The same way that you also claim Tim Robbins is âalmost 6â6â when heâs shorter than Howard Stern and claimed 6â4.5. IF you are as bad with your job in show biz as you are with estimating height and with your people skills it makes perfect sense why you are an unemployed troll like you are. But itâs ok Moe. They have support groups for people like you who like to belittle people because they donât agree with your bs"
This is the difference between me and you...
What about this one?
"Canson said on 23/Oct/17
@TheReel: well youâre the one who first of all blasted SJH and then started saying someone is a bad person because you feel he âliedâ to a terminally ill patient all because you feel heâs 6â5.75 and that he said and was measured by his wife at 6â4.75. I donât think his wife is that dumb at least not as dumb as you. So whoâs ignorant now. Someone who has never met the man saying he lies to terminally ill patients like you do? That is beyond ignorant and stupid to even say something like that about someone you donât know. And I can care less about Kobeâs extra marital affairs. That is his business. You base your estimates for height off whether you like someone it appears which shows youâre biased. And yes I am happily married. No need to go there because I highly doubt anyone would even touch your dumbass not even a prostitute. So yes me making a comment like this to you was well warranted when you one go and attack SJH like you did and then go and make a comment about Kobe âlying to a terminally ill patient like thatâ. Youâre a ****ing piece of ****. Why donât you go to see a therapist."
And these are just two of the many insulting and trash-talking comments you are used to make. As I said, the list is pretty long...
Btw, the only one who has "sunken himself" (and constantly does) on here is you. The funny thing? You don't even realize it. As I said, your comments speak for themselves and tell a lot about your character and your credibility on here. I think there's nothing to add...
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 25/Dec/17
@Andrea
We don't know Momoa's footwear, or whether he was standing on higher ground level, or whether the camera lens was accentuating his height. Don't just assume and jump to conclusions that he was probably standing on his tiptoes. And "some" doesn't mean "little". I never said that Michael Jai White only have a little advantage. Just not as much as you make it out to be. And The Game's losing a bit of height by tilting his head to the side and having his legs wide apart, but you conveniently ignore those.
And you took Shawne Merriman's 6'4 3/8" measurement for granted, which turned out to be erroneous by the way. And you tried to use that pic with him and Boris to show that Boris is 6'4" range, but it turned out that Shawne was actually measured 6'2 3/8" (btw 6'2.4" doesn't mean 6'2 4/8" because I've seen players measured x'x.8" and x'x.9" e.g. #20 Chris Davis at 5'9.8" and #27 Steve Williams at 5'8.9" and there's no such thing as 5'9 8/8" because that'll just be 5'10" and no such thing as 5'8 9/8" either Click Here ) so that means Shawe's listing had an error by 2 inches, so you were wrong when you told Rob that Shawne was measured 6'2 4/8" And this is proof that Chris Davis was measured 5'9 7/8" Click Here and Steve Williams 5'8 7/8" Click Here And it also goes to show you that x'x.8" and x'x.9" are the same value when it comes to nfldraftscout because both are xxx7 which means x'x 7/8"
But back to the subject, it was childish for you to say something like that, not that I took offense from it of course. And I started to "trash talk" only because you did it to me first, all because of a simple disagreement over the height of Boris. It started with you and Canson arguing, and as soon as I stepped in and supported Canson's theory of Boris being 6'3", you started to trash talk to me and referred to me as his boyfriend. I didn't really say anything negative towards you before then. You're the one who escalated the situation. We could've had a peaceful debate about Boris' height but you turned it personal.
@Andrea
We don't know Momoa's footwear, or whether he was standing on higher ground level, or whether the camera lens was accentuating his height. Don't just assume and jump to conclusions that he was probably standing on his tiptoes. And "some" doesn't mean "little". I never said that Michael Jai White only have a little advantage. Just not as much as you make it out to be. And The Game's losing a bit of height by tilting his head to the side and having his legs wide apart, but you conveniently ignore those.
And you took Shawne Merriman's 6'4 3/8" measurement for granted, which turned out to be erroneous by the way. And you tried to use that pic with him and Boris to show that Boris is 6'4" range, but it turned out that Shawne was actually measured 6'2 3/8" (btw 6'2.4" doesn't mean 6'2 4/8" because I've seen players measured x'x.8" and x'x.9" e.g. #20 Chris Davis at 5'9.8" and #27 Steve Williams at 5'8.9" and there's no such thing as 5'9 8/8" because that'll just be 5'10" and no such thing as 5'8 9/8" either Click Here ) so that means Shawe's listing had an error by 2 inches, so you were wrong when you told Rob that Shawne was measured 6'2 4/8" And this is proof that Chris Davis was measured 5'9 7/8" Click Here and Steve Williams 5'8 7/8" Click Here And it also goes to show you that x'x.8" and x'x.9" are the same value when it comes to nfldraftscout because both are xxx7 which means x'x 7/8"
But back to the subject, it was childish for you to say something like that, not that I took offense from it of course. And I started to "trash talk" only because you did it to me first, all because of a simple disagreement over the height of Boris. It started with you and Canson arguing, and as soon as I stepped in and supported Canson's theory of Boris being 6'3", you started to trash talk to me and referred to me as his boyfriend. I didn't really say anything negative towards you before then. You're the one who escalated the situation. We could've had a peaceful debate about Boris' height but you turned it personal.
Canson said on 23/Dec/17
@Christian: honestly after the last post from Andrea I donât know what else to say. Why would the NBA purposely âundermeasure someone at 6â4 5/8â? A sport that is known for inflating people just like in Wrestling lol
@Christian: honestly after the last post from Andrea I donât know what else to say. Why would the NBA purposely âundermeasure someone at 6â4 5/8â? A sport that is known for inflating people just like in Wrestling lol
Canson said on 23/Dec/17
@Andrea: if you would like to bring up every visitor who Iâve insulted because they donât agree with me go right ahead. You were the one below who initiated that comment to me about it and I just responded back saying that you do the same. I donât care if Iâve insulted 14 people and you only 12. If you do it at all you really have no room to critique me about it. Thatâs called being a hypocrite if you donât know and I can easily find instances where you insult people even before they even explain themselves like you did with Rampage and 6â3 both. Not to mention since you brought this up, the whole thing with Moe. You actually insulted him before I did. Go look at the posts. I very clearly insulted him back because he insulted me first. I didnât agree with his estimate so I became a âloserâ and he responds back hostily to me for no reason. And if you look closely enough there I clearly defended you and Joe after he insulted me. Go look at that page. Also Go look at the thread he insulted Bobby and me and that is why i responded like I did. Donât try to bring that up now just because you have clearly âsunken yourselfâ and look like a fool and have lost the argument because it is exactly what you are doing just like you did when you tried to turn Christian and me against each other. You have some ways about you.
And I own what I do. I usually only insult if Iâm insulted first or when it is a ridiculous argument someone is making. Typically tho itâs when someone insults me first because I donât agree with them. Itâs just that my insults back are a bit sharper so I get accused of that automatically which I admit I need to stop responding that way to some but I just donât tolerate stupidity with some people. And You donât want to go there with me because I can bring up much more about you. Youâre clearly a hypocrite. I mean Rampage for one then this guy below 6â3 on this page you insulted him very clearly without even knowing him. You didnât say âwell I respectfully disagreeâ you clearly said âyour bad estimate, you mean your bad Englishâ you mean âbad estimateâ. Thatâs an insult. Not to mention the Moe thing
@Andrea: if you would like to bring up every visitor who Iâve insulted because they donât agree with me go right ahead. You were the one below who initiated that comment to me about it and I just responded back saying that you do the same. I donât care if Iâve insulted 14 people and you only 12. If you do it at all you really have no room to critique me about it. Thatâs called being a hypocrite if you donât know and I can easily find instances where you insult people even before they even explain themselves like you did with Rampage and 6â3 both. Not to mention since you brought this up, the whole thing with Moe. You actually insulted him before I did. Go look at the posts. I very clearly insulted him back because he insulted me first. I didnât agree with his estimate so I became a âloserâ and he responds back hostily to me for no reason. And if you look closely enough there I clearly defended you and Joe after he insulted me. Go look at that page. Also Go look at the thread he insulted Bobby and me and that is why i responded like I did. Donât try to bring that up now just because you have clearly âsunken yourselfâ and look like a fool and have lost the argument because it is exactly what you are doing just like you did when you tried to turn Christian and me against each other. You have some ways about you.
And I own what I do. I usually only insult if Iâm insulted first or when it is a ridiculous argument someone is making. Typically tho itâs when someone insults me first because I donât agree with them. Itâs just that my insults back are a bit sharper so I get accused of that automatically which I admit I need to stop responding that way to some but I just donât tolerate stupidity with some people. And You donât want to go there with me because I can bring up much more about you. Youâre clearly a hypocrite. I mean Rampage for one then this guy below 6â3 on this page you insulted him very clearly without even knowing him. You didnât say âwell I respectfully disagreeâ you clearly said âyour bad estimate, you mean your bad Englishâ you mean âbad estimateâ. Thatâs an insult. Not to mention the Moe thing
Canson said on 23/Dec/17
@Andrea: I canât go a single discussion without bringing up Christian you say? You canât go a single discussion when responding to one of us without bringing up the other. Seriously nobody here takes anything you say seriously anymore. You are just blowing hot air at this point.
Seriously about the shoes now. Youâve dug yourself deep into quick sand. Youâre now thinking youâre âqualifiedâ to discuss shoes when you canât even tell that Boris has a footwear advantage on Kobe in their pics yet you are quick to point out this footwear advantage on Boris that Barkley has. As far as your response to Christian about Barkleyâs measured height that is what he measured at the Olympics in 1992 and most who meet him say heâs 6â4 range so possible heâs even 6â4 1/2 at a low. But since you said it about why does he believe Barkleyâs measurement of 6â4 5/8? Itâs common sense. Number one he looks 6â4 and change more often than not. Also at the Olympics what is a proven player (actually hall of fame player after 8 years in the league) going to gain with them lying up or down about his height when he has claimed many times that he was âaboutâ 6â4 3/4 even before that? Itâs likley that the 6â4 5/8 is a more precise measurement being the NBA does not do 1/8â increments and being that they didnât even do 1/4â prior to the 2000s. Wade on the other hand would be more likely to have been boosted on a pre draft as that is something that he is playing for (his career). Having played basketball myself at the collegiate level Iâve met many players unfortunately never Wade or Barkley but have met Carmelo and Caron Butler who make wade look no better than 6â3. He clearly doesnât look his drafted height next to Kobe or Melo or Lebron etc. in fact even next to guys like Russell Westbrook. I will also say that in people I know who have met both players thatâs how they were described 6â2/6â3 and 6â4/6â5 or 6â4 1/2 but thatâs a post for another day. But either way you attacked Christian saying Barkley is âno less than 6â4 3/4 when he measured below that markâ. You only even brought that portion up (the Barkley and wade measurements) because barkleyâs Contradicts your theory for Boris whereas If Wade were actually that height it would make Boris what you think he actually is. So once again you choose evidence that supports your claim and ignore or make excuses for what contradicts it
@Andrea: I canât go a single discussion without bringing up Christian you say? You canât go a single discussion when responding to one of us without bringing up the other. Seriously nobody here takes anything you say seriously anymore. You are just blowing hot air at this point.
Seriously about the shoes now. Youâve dug yourself deep into quick sand. Youâre now thinking youâre âqualifiedâ to discuss shoes when you canât even tell that Boris has a footwear advantage on Kobe in their pics yet you are quick to point out this footwear advantage on Boris that Barkley has. As far as your response to Christian about Barkleyâs measured height that is what he measured at the Olympics in 1992 and most who meet him say heâs 6â4 range so possible heâs even 6â4 1/2 at a low. But since you said it about why does he believe Barkleyâs measurement of 6â4 5/8? Itâs common sense. Number one he looks 6â4 and change more often than not. Also at the Olympics what is a proven player (actually hall of fame player after 8 years in the league) going to gain with them lying up or down about his height when he has claimed many times that he was âaboutâ 6â4 3/4 even before that? Itâs likley that the 6â4 5/8 is a more precise measurement being the NBA does not do 1/8â increments and being that they didnât even do 1/4â prior to the 2000s. Wade on the other hand would be more likely to have been boosted on a pre draft as that is something that he is playing for (his career). Having played basketball myself at the collegiate level Iâve met many players unfortunately never Wade or Barkley but have met Carmelo and Caron Butler who make wade look no better than 6â3. He clearly doesnât look his drafted height next to Kobe or Melo or Lebron etc. in fact even next to guys like Russell Westbrook. I will also say that in people I know who have met both players thatâs how they were described 6â2/6â3 and 6â4/6â5 or 6â4 1/2 but thatâs a post for another day. But either way you attacked Christian saying Barkley is âno less than 6â4 3/4 when he measured below that markâ. You only even brought that portion up (the Barkley and wade measurements) because barkleyâs Contradicts your theory for Boris whereas If Wade were actually that height it would make Boris what you think he actually is. So once again you choose evidence that supports your claim and ignore or make excuses for what contradicts it
Andrea said on 22/Dec/17
What does common sense tells you in Jason Momoa's picture then, Christian? He magically grew up that day? And, for the last time, Boris has a noticeable camera disadvantage in those picture with Michael Jai White and The Game, not just "some". But again you probably don't even know what I'm talking about...
As for Barkley, Boris' shoes don't look more than 0.75-1 inches from those pictures, while Charles' ones look at least 1.25 inches, so I doubt there is any less than a 1/4 inch difference... And you said it right. Barkley was ALLEGEDLY measured at 6'4 5/8. It's funny how you say that Dwayne Wade is no more than 6'2-6'3, even though, in his case, he was "officially" measured at 6'3.75, while you take Charles's alleged 6'4 5/8 measurement for granted...
And stop lying. You didn't bring up the boyfriend incident only to show my hypocrisy when I got, according to you, butthurt over Canson calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I never got butthurt for what Canson told me. At all. To be honest, I even laughed at that one when I read it the first time. That being said, I couldn't care less of that and the only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. I certainly don't get insulted by people like you. It's just funny to see that, whenever you run out of arguments, you start to trash talk. That speaks a lot about your character...
P.S. Canson, you're getting old. It's funny that you say Rob is "my master", again, when you yourself are not able to have a single discussion on your own without bringing your bff Christian up. Just like it's funny that you say that I don't have a mind of my own and just agree with every listing on here... Do you have any idea of how many times I have challenged Rob's listings? LOL Fortunately, I can think with my head because, unlike you, I have a brain. And guess what? Basically all celebrities that I challenged in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. And since you brought Rampage up again... Do I really need to mention every visitor you have insulted throughout these years just because they didn't agree with you? LOL Don't make me do it. The list would be pretty long... And, as I said, I always had my reasons for saying what I said to Rampage and I certainly don't regret it. And I certainly never got as personal as he did. His posts are there, so I certainly don't need to justify myself. Especially to you. Of course, since he's the only guy I've ever had a "serious" fight throughout these years, you have to bring him up. In your case, it's not only one guy, but a lot. I'm wondering why...
What does common sense tells you in Jason Momoa's picture then, Christian? He magically grew up that day? And, for the last time, Boris has a noticeable camera disadvantage in those picture with Michael Jai White and The Game, not just "some". But again you probably don't even know what I'm talking about...
As for Barkley, Boris' shoes don't look more than 0.75-1 inches from those pictures, while Charles' ones look at least 1.25 inches, so I doubt there is any less than a 1/4 inch difference... And you said it right. Barkley was ALLEGEDLY measured at 6'4 5/8. It's funny how you say that Dwayne Wade is no more than 6'2-6'3, even though, in his case, he was "officially" measured at 6'3.75, while you take Charles's alleged 6'4 5/8 measurement for granted...
And stop lying. You didn't bring up the boyfriend incident only to show my hypocrisy when I got, according to you, butthurt over Canson calling me a prostitute. You did it way before that. In fact, it's really the opposite. I did bring the prostitute thing up just to show your hypocrisy when you started to accuse me of insulting you. How liar are you, LOL? As I said, I never got butthurt for what Canson told me. At all. To be honest, I even laughed at that one when I read it the first time. That being said, I couldn't care less of that and the only reason why I brought it up was to show your hypocrisy when you decided to play the "I am good and you are bad" card. I certainly don't get insulted by people like you. It's just funny to see that, whenever you run out of arguments, you start to trash talk. That speaks a lot about your character...
P.S. Canson, you're getting old. It's funny that you say Rob is "my master", again, when you yourself are not able to have a single discussion on your own without bringing your bff Christian up. Just like it's funny that you say that I don't have a mind of my own and just agree with every listing on here... Do you have any idea of how many times I have challenged Rob's listings? LOL Fortunately, I can think with my head because, unlike you, I have a brain. And guess what? Basically all celebrities that I challenged in the past turned out to be as tall as I said when Rob eventually met them. And since you brought Rampage up again... Do I really need to mention every visitor you have insulted throughout these years just because they didn't agree with you? LOL Don't make me do it. The list would be pretty long... And, as I said, I always had my reasons for saying what I said to Rampage and I certainly don't regret it. And I certainly never got as personal as he did. His posts are there, so I certainly don't need to justify myself. Especially to you. Of course, since he's the only guy I've ever had a "serious" fight throughout these years, you have to bring him up. In your case, it's not only one guy, but a lot. I'm wondering why...
checker said on 22/Dec/17
Canson when I have a tape measure next to me and my finger perpendicular to 6'0 the middle of my forehead hits my finger. Would you estimate me at 6'3 then. Then when have my finger perpendicular to 6'3 the top of my crown just grazes it.
Canson when I have a tape measure next to me and my finger perpendicular to 6'0 the middle of my forehead hits my finger. Would you estimate me at 6'3 then. Then when have my finger perpendicular to 6'3 the top of my crown just grazes it.
Canson said on 22/Dec/17
Well said Christian. Itâs funny that the camera advantages and disadvantages that Andrea brings up in those pics donât apply to any of the ones he posted nor does footwear or any other variable that is commonly used in his responses come into play when Boris âlooks the height heâs listed here on this pageâ or even taller
Well said Christian. Itâs funny that the camera advantages and disadvantages that Andrea brings up in those pics donât apply to any of the ones he posted nor does footwear or any other variable that is commonly used in his responses come into play when Boris âlooks the height heâs listed here on this pageâ or even taller
Canson said on 21/Dec/17
@Andrea: did you really say that Barkley had a 1.25â shoe on? And that Boris had 3/4-1â. So are you saying his shoe is thicker than Borisâs boot that he had on with Kobe in the pic? Lol Kobe had a canvas shoe on there which clearly is not as thick as what Boris had. And I know the next thing out of your mouth is what Rob said that he doesnât see an advantage. But to you anything Rob says is a fact because I forgot, he âyour masterâ has to do all of your thinking for you. Very evident
@Andrea: did you really say that Barkley had a 1.25â shoe on? And that Boris had 3/4-1â. So are you saying his shoe is thicker than Borisâs boot that he had on with Kobe in the pic? Lol Kobe had a canvas shoe on there which clearly is not as thick as what Boris had. And I know the next thing out of your mouth is what Rob said that he doesnât see an advantage. But to you anything Rob says is a fact because I forgot, he âyour masterâ has to do all of your thinking for you. Very evident
Canson said on 21/Dec/17
@Andrea: yes all of this coming from the guy who says âAkon stands on his tiptoes or Jamie Foxâs must wear lifts because he makes Boris look 6â2â lolâ or Barkley has a âclear footwear advantage on Borisâ. You have some nerve calling anyone here a troll or making comments about their intelligence or anything of that nature. You honesty sound like you were deprived of oxygen at birth when you make comments. I mean you got into the same types of arguments with Rampage about his estimates previously yet you want to bring up the arguments Christian and I have gotten in with other posters. Itâs always when someone disagrees with you. You are the laughing stock of this site with those comments and have little room to critique anyone about their height assessments when you make the excuses you make. You can say what You want about any of us you just mentioned Christian who has more credibility than you will ever have and clearly more intelligence than you and of course doesnât make excuses when heâs wrong. He owns up to it. And Rampage at least doesnât make excuses and respects other peopleâs opinions. You clearly donât. And yes He is also a very respectful poster and a pretty standup dude overall unlike you. You only call him a troll for the same reason that you call Christian or Me one or anyone who doesnât agree with you for that matter because we donât agree with you. I absolutely commend you tho. you have the uncanny ability to take Two similar pics where you âbelieveâ one is disadvantaged (say Boris) and call it out or make an excuse but then when Boris has that same advantage on someone else in a pic, you fail to mention or care about it and when it is brought to your attention, you deny it even when itâs clear as day. So donât go saying what someone else does wrong. Youâre just very argumentative with people and like to deflect the attention away from what you do. But thatâs what you would come to expect from someone who is sorry and a complete utter waste of life and canât think on his own two feet on this site without some type of intervention from Rob
@Andrea: yes all of this coming from the guy who says âAkon stands on his tiptoes or Jamie Foxâs must wear lifts because he makes Boris look 6â2â lolâ or Barkley has a âclear footwear advantage on Borisâ. You have some nerve calling anyone here a troll or making comments about their intelligence or anything of that nature. You honesty sound like you were deprived of oxygen at birth when you make comments. I mean you got into the same types of arguments with Rampage about his estimates previously yet you want to bring up the arguments Christian and I have gotten in with other posters. Itâs always when someone disagrees with you. You are the laughing stock of this site with those comments and have little room to critique anyone about their height assessments when you make the excuses you make. You can say what You want about any of us you just mentioned Christian who has more credibility than you will ever have and clearly more intelligence than you and of course doesnât make excuses when heâs wrong. He owns up to it. And Rampage at least doesnât make excuses and respects other peopleâs opinions. You clearly donât. And yes He is also a very respectful poster and a pretty standup dude overall unlike you. You only call him a troll for the same reason that you call Christian or Me one or anyone who doesnât agree with you for that matter because we donât agree with you. I absolutely commend you tho. you have the uncanny ability to take Two similar pics where you âbelieveâ one is disadvantaged (say Boris) and call it out or make an excuse but then when Boris has that same advantage on someone else in a pic, you fail to mention or care about it and when it is brought to your attention, you deny it even when itâs clear as day. So donât go saying what someone else does wrong. Youâre just very argumentative with people and like to deflect the attention away from what you do. But thatâs what you would come to expect from someone who is sorry and a complete utter waste of life and canât think on his own two feet on this site without some type of intervention from Rob
Andrea said on 20/Dec/17
Whatever you say, Canson. Whatever you say. One thing, if by no one (really takes me seriously) you mean you, Christian, Rampage or other trolls, I honestly couldn't care less. Here, like in real life, the only opinions that matter to me are those of people I respect and I care about. Funny how you even have the nerve to say something like that, btw. Let's not forget that you are the guy who goes on pages of celebrities you don't even know, you comment about their height and you probably even submit a vote (like you did with Zachary and Wayne Brady, the same Wayne Brady who suddenly became shorter than your "as listed" estimate when everybody, except for you of course, agreed that he looked at least 5 inches shorter than Boris). You are the guy who posts random sites with random listings/descriptions as some kind of evidence that a celebrity is this or that height. You are the guy who totally buys what random visitors on here say (only when it's convenient for you though, see what happened with moe), like how tall they are or how tall the celebrities they say they have met looked "in person", and even try to compare them to Rob, by saying that Rob is not any different. Oh, and you are the guy who has no clue about height differences and/or has to lie about them to make his "estimates" believable.
Whatever you say, Canson. Whatever you say. One thing, if by no one (really takes me seriously) you mean you, Christian, Rampage or other trolls, I honestly couldn't care less. Here, like in real life, the only opinions that matter to me are those of people I respect and I care about. Funny how you even have the nerve to say something like that, btw. Let's not forget that you are the guy who goes on pages of celebrities you don't even know, you comment about their height and you probably even submit a vote (like you did with Zachary and Wayne Brady, the same Wayne Brady who suddenly became shorter than your "as listed" estimate when everybody, except for you of course, agreed that he looked at least 5 inches shorter than Boris). You are the guy who posts random sites with random listings/descriptions as some kind of evidence that a celebrity is this or that height. You are the guy who totally buys what random visitors on here say (only when it's convenient for you though, see what happened with moe), like how tall they are or how tall the celebrities they say they have met looked "in person", and even try to compare them to Rob, by saying that Rob is not any different. Oh, and you are the guy who has no clue about height differences and/or has to lie about them to make his "estimates" believable.
Roger said on 20/Dec/17
Boris looks 6â3.75
Boris looks 6â3.75
checker said on 19/Dec/17
Rob when I have a tape measure next to me and my finger perpendicular to 6'0 the middle of my forehead hits my finger. Would you estimate me at 6'3 then.
Rob when I have a tape measure next to me and my finger perpendicular to 6'0 the middle of my forehead hits my finger. Would you estimate me at 6'3 then.
Canson said on 17/Dec/17
@Andrea: you have a ****ing excuse for everything donât you? You seriously are bringing up that Barkley has a footwear advantage lol? They both have on dress shoes so for you to mention that is beyond ridiculous. Itâs funny how you can see that footwear difference but you couldnât see the âobviousâ difference in the footwear with Kobe Bryant and Boris. Honestly you just showed why nobody here takes you seriously. And by the way Barkley is 50+ years old so how is 6â4.5 not possible especially when he measured 6â4 5/8 at the Olympics? We donât even know if that is his lowest height. Most people that meet Barkley say heâs between 6â4-6â5 or 6â4. A guy who is 195 cm wonât appear 6â4 to most they will appear 6â5 as that is a 1/4â difference in height. The only way someone can tell is if theyâre maybe 6â5.25 or 196cm flat and someone is half inch shorter
@Andrea: you have a ****ing excuse for everything donât you? You seriously are bringing up that Barkley has a footwear advantage lol? They both have on dress shoes so for you to mention that is beyond ridiculous. Itâs funny how you can see that footwear difference but you couldnât see the âobviousâ difference in the footwear with Kobe Bryant and Boris. Honestly you just showed why nobody here takes you seriously. And by the way Barkley is 50+ years old so how is 6â4.5 not possible especially when he measured 6â4 5/8 at the Olympics? We donât even know if that is his lowest height. Most people that meet Barkley say heâs between 6â4-6â5 or 6â4. A guy who is 195 cm wonât appear 6â4 to most they will appear 6â5 as that is a 1/4â difference in height. The only way someone can tell is if theyâre maybe 6â5.25 or 196cm flat and someone is half inch shorter
Canson said on 17/Dec/17
@Christian: You by far provided the best evidence of Boris being under 6â3â. That picture with Barkley pretty much solves this
@Christian: You by far provided the best evidence of Boris being under 6â3â. That picture with Barkley pretty much solves this
Canson said on 17/Dec/17
@Andrea: Iâm well aware that there are certain things that arenât a fact. However with you everything you believe is right or wrong is a fact. Thatâs exactly how you come across as a know it all. I am not uploading any videos or pictures of me on this site unless my face is completely blacked out. If you disagree with me thatâs fine but as mentioned quit saying something is a fact just because you believe it is
@Andrea: Iâm well aware that there are certain things that arenât a fact. However with you everything you believe is right or wrong is a fact. Thatâs exactly how you come across as a know it all. I am not uploading any videos or pictures of me on this site unless my face is completely blacked out. If you disagree with me thatâs fine but as mentioned quit saying something is a fact just because you believe it is
Canson said on 17/Dec/17
@Andrea: Iâm well aware that there are certain things that arenât a fact. However with you everything you believe is right or wrong is a fact. Thatâs exactly how you come across as a know it all
@Andrea: Iâm well aware that there are certain things that arenât a fact. However with you everything you believe is right or wrong is a fact. Thatâs exactly how you come across as a know it all
Canson said on 17/Dec/17
@Andrea: thatâs actually not true at all. You arrived at those numbers based on your opinions and you are using them as fact. In my opinion Magic clearly has 4â on Boris. Thatâs your opinion that he doesnât have that much. In addition with Fox not standing straight that needs to be taken into account. Christianâs pictures with Charles Barkley are better than any you have posted as we know how tall he actually is and Barkley is clearly at least 1.5â taller than Boris. Boris actually looks under 6â3â with Barkley
@Andrea: thatâs actually not true at all. You arrived at those numbers based on your opinions and you are using them as fact. In my opinion Magic clearly has 4â on Boris. Thatâs your opinion that he doesnât have that much. In addition with Fox not standing straight that needs to be taken into account. Christianâs pictures with Charles Barkley are better than any you have posted as we know how tall he actually is and Barkley is clearly at least 1.5â taller than Boris. Boris actually looks under 6â3â with Barkley
Rampage(-_-_-)Clover said on 17/Dec/17
Rob, is a weak or strong 6ft4 more likely?
Editor Rob
Rob, is a weak or strong 6ft4 more likely?
Editor Rob I think Boris is overall very close to being 6ft 4 on the nose, but I can appreciate how at times he has looked 6ft 3.5, although overall I think there's enough to see him measure right around 6ft 4 on the stadiometer.
Christian-6'5 3/8" said on 17/Dec/17
@Andrea
Seriously, how many more excuses are you gonna make up? First it was lifts (the pic with Boris and Jamie Foxx), and now it's tiptoes? Do you realize how absurd you sound? You have zero proof that Akon was standing on his tiptoes. And I haven't seen a single pic where Akon stood on his tiptoes, let alone because he felt insecure that a guy was taller than him. I've seen tons of pics where he stood next to taller people and his feet were always flat. Don't make such random baseless allegations. So I guess Michael Jai White and The Game were standing on their tiptoes as well, right? (even though it makes no sense for a guy like The Game to do that when his legs were wide apart, because if he wanted to look taller, he would've kept his legs closer because having your legs wide apart would make you shorter) Even calling you a "joke" would be generous at this point, Andrea.
As for Barkley, both he and Boris were wearing dress shoes. Barkley's platform appears to be a bit thicker, but we can't see Boris' heels either. It's the heel of the shoe that gives most of the height. And the vast majority of dress shoes don't have heels that are under an inch thick. Only a very few have something like 0.75" And the type Boris wore would give a good inch despite having a thinner platform. I've seen plenty of those types in shops. Matter of fact, I own a pair that are very similar to what Boris wore, and those give me 1.1" (after measuring them of course) So if they're was any advantage, Barkley would have it only by about 1/8", which is virtually negligible. And a 6'4 5/8" measured Barkley would put Boris right at 6'3" because there was a 1.5"-1.75" difference between them. And as Canson alluded it's not impossible for a 54 year old, near 300lb Barkley to have lost a bit of height, making him maybe 6'4.5" or 6'4 3/8" today, which would potentially put Boris even lower at 6'2.75"
And I already admitted that I've misunderstood a few things in the past regarding other comments, but I didn't misunderstand regarding the discussion about Shawne's claim. Notice that word "seem". If I really jumped to conclusions, I wouldn't have used that word.
And one of the many problems I have with you is that you constantly love to play the victim by accusing me of "attacking" you. As you notice, I never accuse anyone of doing that to me whenever I have a debate with a user/visitor. Because I have thick skin, and I think with logic rather than emotion. I suggest you do the same. Maybe then you'll become somewhat of a more likeable person here. See, I'm not attacking you. I'm actually helping you by telling the truth about you, believe it or not.
@Andrea
Seriously, how many more excuses are you gonna make up? First it was lifts (the pic with Boris and Jamie Foxx), and now it's tiptoes? Do you realize how absurd you sound? You have zero proof that Akon was standing on his tiptoes. And I haven't seen a single pic where Akon stood on his tiptoes, let alone because he felt insecure that a guy was taller than him. I've seen tons of pics where he stood next to taller people and his feet were always flat. Don't make such random baseless allegations. So I guess Michael Jai White and The Game were standing on their tiptoes as well, right? (even though it makes no sense for a guy like The Game to do that when his legs were wide apart, because if he wanted to look taller, he would've kept his legs closer because having your legs wide apart would make you shorter) Even calling you a "joke" would be generous at this point, Andrea.
As for Barkley, both he and Boris were wearing dress shoes. Barkley's platform appears to be a bit thicker, but we can't see Boris' heels either. It's the heel of the shoe that gives most of the height. And the vast majority of dress shoes don't have heels that are under an inch thick. Only a very few have something like 0.75" And the type Boris wore would give a good inch despite having a thinner platform. I've seen plenty of those types in shops. Matter of fact, I own a pair that are very similar to what Boris wore, and those give me 1.1" (after measuring them of course) So if they're was any advantage, Barkley would have it only by about 1/8", which is virtually negligible. And a 6'4 5/8" measured Barkley would put Boris right at 6'3" because there was a 1.5"-1.75" difference between them. And as Canson alluded it's not impossible for a 54 year old, near 300lb Barkley to have lost a bit of height, making him maybe 6'4.5" or 6'4 3/8" today, which would potentially put Boris even lower at 6'2.75"
And I already admitted that I've misunderstood a few things in the past regarding other comments, but I didn't misunderstand regarding the discussion about Shawne's claim. Notice that word "seem". If I really jumped to conclusions, I wouldn't have used that word.
And one of the many problems I have with you is that you constantly love to play the victim by accusing me of "attacking" you. As you notice, I never accuse anyone of doing that to me whenever I have a debate with a user/visitor. Because I have thick skin, and I think with logic rather than emotion. I suggest you do the same. Maybe then you'll become somewhat of a more likeable person here. See, I'm not attacking you. I'm actually helping you by telling the truth about you, believe it or not.
Andrea said on 17/Dec/17
Canson, in case you don't know, there are some things that are NOT a fact. Not everything is an opinion. As I said, it's like saying that you can measure a couple of cms taller in the evening compared to the morning and calling it an opinion. It makes no sense. Again, upload a good video of you measuring your height and prove that by tilting your head down you actually measure taller than what you'd do if you didn't do it. Unless you have a deformed head or something, I honestly find it hard to believe. But if you posted a video which "proves" what you're saying, I'd have no problem to take what I said back...
Canson, in case you don't know, there are some things that are NOT a fact. Not everything is an opinion. As I said, it's like saying that you can measure a couple of cms taller in the evening compared to the morning and calling it an opinion. It makes no sense. Again, upload a good video of you measuring your height and prove that by tilting your head down you actually measure taller than what you'd do if you didn't do it. Unless you have a deformed head or something, I honestly find it hard to believe. But if you posted a video which "proves" what you're saying, I'd have no problem to take what I said back...
Andrea said on 17/Dec/17
If Boris really was 6'3 (let alone under), that would make Rick Fox no more than 6'4.5, Kim Coates no more than 5'10-5'11, Magic Johnson no more than 6'6.5, Wayne Brady a weak 5'10, AJ Calloway no more than 6'-6'1 (hence Jared no more than 6'3), Casper Van Dien no more than 5'8 (hence Rob no more than 5'7), Kobe barely over 6'4, Wentworth Miller barely over 5'11, Dennis Haysbert somewhere around 6'2, Chi McBride no more than 6'3 and John Cena barely over 5'11. Just to name a "few". Let's just say that it is a bit unlikely (and yes, I do love euphemisms)... Without considering the fact that when you look at him with people who really are 6'3 range, like Nigel Barker ( Click Here ), Jerome Boateng ( Click Here ) and a MEASURED 6'3 1/8 Damien Woody ( Click Here ), he looks comfortably taller than all of them by about an inch (and no less than that).
If Boris really was 6'3 (let alone under), that would make Rick Fox no more than 6'4.5, Kim Coates no more than 5'10-5'11, Magic Johnson no more than 6'6.5, Wayne Brady a weak 5'10, AJ Calloway no more than 6'-6'1 (hence Jared no more than 6'3), Casper Van Dien no more than 5'8 (hence Rob no more than 5'7), Kobe barely over 6'4, Wentworth Miller barely over 5'11, Dennis Haysbert somewhere around 6'2, Chi McBride no more than 6'3 and John Cena barely over 5'11. Just to name a "few". Let's just say that it is a bit unlikely (and yes, I do love euphemisms)... Without considering the fact that when you look at him with people who really are 6'3 range, like Nigel Barker ( Click Here ), Jerome Boateng ( Click Here ) and a MEASURED 6'3 1/8 Damien Woody ( Click Here ), he looks comfortably taller than all of them by about an inch (and no less than that).
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