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5ft 8.14in (173.1cm)
5ft 8.14in (173.1cm)
RisingForce said on 30/Jan/12
Interestingly, Clint Walker did say Bronson had a height complex, but Bronson's height could look all over the place. In the 70's, he looked at least 5'9", but he could look more like 5'8" in earlier movies. In The Dirty Dozen, his height varies a lot in comparison to Lee Marvin. And he didn't look that short barefoot next to James Coburn in boots in The Great Escape.
Interestingly, Clint Walker did say Bronson had a height complex, but Bronson's height could look all over the place. In the 70's, he looked at least 5'9", but he could look more like 5'8" in earlier movies. In The Dirty Dozen, his height varies a lot in comparison to Lee Marvin. And he didn't look that short barefoot next to James Coburn in boots in The Great Escape.
Johnny said on 11/Dec/11
Charles Bronson was no more than 5'6 in height in his prime. I just watched the movie "Big House USA". Broderick Crawford was 6 foot tall. Charles Bronson comes to about his shoulder and has to look up at the rest of the cast. Who ever said Bronson was ever 5"11 is blind. In the movie he plays a prisoner nicknamed Junior. He is the shortest in the cast by at least 5 inch's. Watch the movie, everyone tower's over Bronson, so if we believe that Bronson was ever 5'11 then the rest of the cast would have to be 6'5, highly unlikely. Watch the movie and see.
Charles Bronson was no more than 5'6 in height in his prime. I just watched the movie "Big House USA". Broderick Crawford was 6 foot tall. Charles Bronson comes to about his shoulder and has to look up at the rest of the cast. Who ever said Bronson was ever 5"11 is blind. In the movie he plays a prisoner nicknamed Junior. He is the shortest in the cast by at least 5 inch's. Watch the movie, everyone tower's over Bronson, so if we believe that Bronson was ever 5'11 then the rest of the cast would have to be 6'5, highly unlikely. Watch the movie and see.
joker said on 9/Nov/11
Nope, but Charles Bronson is always referenced as being 6 ft in most of his movies if you pay attention to the fine details.
Nope, but Charles Bronson is always referenced as being 6 ft in most of his movies if you pay attention to the fine details.
dan said on 10/Oct/11
does anybody know where i can get this movie tennessee champ please,
does anybody know where i can get this movie tennessee champ please,
Sterling said on 9/Oct/11
In 1954 Charlie made Tennessee Champ with Dewey Martin. They played boxers, and both appeared to be the same height and weight. Martin's height is listed on the Internet as 5'8". Actually, Martin looks a bit taller than Bronson. Keenan Wynn was in that picture, and he is listed at 5'10". Wynn is considerably taller than both boxers. Like Jimmy Cagney and Steve McQueen, part of Bronson's cinematic appeal was that he was a tough little guy. Movies need such characters. His effectiveness might have been lessened had he been a big man.
In 1954 Charlie made Tennessee Champ with Dewey Martin. They played boxers, and both appeared to be the same height and weight. Martin's height is listed on the Internet as 5'8". Actually, Martin looks a bit taller than Bronson. Keenan Wynn was in that picture, and he is listed at 5'10". Wynn is considerably taller than both boxers. Like Jimmy Cagney and Steve McQueen, part of Bronson's cinematic appeal was that he was a tough little guy. Movies need such characters. His effectiveness might have been lessened had he been a big man.
Spielberg said on 2/Oct/11
I noticed that he was often shot with the camera at a low angle so it was looking up at him, which gave the appearance he was taller.
I noticed that he was often shot with the camera at a low angle so it was looking up at him, which gave the appearance he was taller.
curtis said on 23/Sep/11
Check out Man With a Camera. Bronson id significantly shorter than every male on the show. I think he was about 5'6".
Check out Man With a Camera. Bronson id significantly shorter than every male on the show. I think he was about 5'6".
TruebloodFan said on 6/Aug/11
weak 5ft8, probably 5ft7 at the time of his death. great actor.
weak 5ft8, probably 5ft7 at the time of his death. great actor.
John said on 5/Jul/11
I just had dinner with one of Charles Bronson's sisters ( her name is Joy ). She told me Charles was about 5'8" ( which is my height ). Also, her son in law ( about 5'6" ) is in a picture with Bronson taken around 1998. They both look to be about the same height.
I just had dinner with one of Charles Bronson's sisters ( her name is Joy ). She told me Charles was about 5'8" ( which is my height ). Also, her son in law ( about 5'6" ) is in a picture with Bronson taken around 1998. They both look to be about the same height.
Sam said on 30/Jun/11
Bronson didn't appear in any scenes together with Goldblum in Death Wish but did regularly act with taller actors. See James Coburn, James Garner, Jim Brown, Lee Marvin, George Kennedy, Telly Savalas, Henry Fonda, etc. Although, I'm not sure Bronson called the shots on the production of his films until the early 70s (Death Wish onward).
Bronson didn't appear in any scenes together with Goldblum in Death Wish but did regularly act with taller actors. See James Coburn, James Garner, Jim Brown, Lee Marvin, George Kennedy, Telly Savalas, Henry Fonda, etc. Although, I'm not sure Bronson called the shots on the production of his films until the early 70s (Death Wish onward).
mike said on 28/Jun/11
" A would be 6ft 1 actor who wanted to audition for Death Wish 2 once said "I heard from somebody in the office that Bronson [said that] nobody could be in a scene with him who was taller than he was."
What about Jeff Goldblum. He's listed at 6.4 here and was with Bronson in the Death wish movies.
" A would be 6ft 1 actor who wanted to audition for Death Wish 2 once said "I heard from somebody in the office that Bronson [said that] nobody could be in a scene with him who was taller than he was."
What about Jeff Goldblum. He's listed at 6.4 here and was with Bronson in the Death wish movies.
Dan said on 3/Jun/11
And if you watch closely at the line up when lee marvin is inspecting them he has 5"7 richard jackael beside him and he is the same height as bronson, both of these were together in luke and the tenderfoot episode and were the same height again, also if you look at bronsons hat in dirty dozen its puckered up to give him height
And if you watch closely at the line up when lee marvin is inspecting them he has 5"7 richard jackael beside him and he is the same height as bronson, both of these were together in luke and the tenderfoot episode and were the same height again, also if you look at bronsons hat in dirty dozen its puckered up to give him height
James J. said on 28/May/11
He was the same height as 5'7" (max) Trini Lopez when they stood next to each other near the opening of The Dirty Dozen. And pretty much the same height as 5'7" Strother Martin in Hard Times.
He was the same height as 5'7" (max) Trini Lopez when they stood next to each other near the opening of The Dirty Dozen. And pretty much the same height as 5'7" Strother Martin in Hard Times.
humvet said on 27/May/11
There's no way Bronson was 6ft. The best examples that I can see. Bronson was in one of the first episodes of Marshal Dillon . James Arness towered over him at 6ft6. Another example is the movie Stone Killer where he stood eye to eye with Norman Fell and Martin Balsam. Those guys were 5ft6 to 5ft8. Bronson was 5ft8.
There's no way Bronson was 6ft. The best examples that I can see. Bronson was in one of the first episodes of Marshal Dillon . James Arness towered over him at 6ft6. Another example is the movie Stone Killer where he stood eye to eye with Norman Fell and Martin Balsam. Those guys were 5ft6 to 5ft8. Bronson was 5ft8.
thebad7 said on 18/Apr/11
He's one of my favorites--very lean & mean, and a master of pure cinema. 5'8" or 5'9" sounds right for him--he wasn't tall, but he was a very well built guy and he maintained his outstanding physique well into advanced age, up until about 1998 when he had a hip replacement and an Alzheimers' diagnosis. He looked amazing in 1971's CHATO'S LAND--a 50 year old man putting men in their 20s to shame.
I don't think he wore lifts as he either wore normal-looking boots (military or cowboy), or in the case of the first DEATH WISH, standard dress shoes in his films. I've heard he had issues with height, but he had no reason to--he was the real deal, being a Purple Heart winning B-29 tailgunner.
In later life he did look less than 5'8" but I'm almost certain that's due to the hip replacement/later health problems. One other note about Bronson: he was another guy with very good posture. For good reading on him, I would recommend Michael R. Pitts' CHARLES BRONSON: THE 95 FILMS AND THE 156 TELEVISION APPEARANCES. Excellent encyclopedia on Bronson's life & career.
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He's one of my favorites--very lean & mean, and a master of pure cinema. 5'8" or 5'9" sounds right for him--he wasn't tall, but he was a very well built guy and he maintained his outstanding physique well into advanced age, up until about 1998 when he had a hip replacement and an Alzheimers' diagnosis. He looked amazing in 1971's CHATO'S LAND--a 50 year old man putting men in their 20s to shame.
I don't think he wore lifts as he either wore normal-looking boots (military or cowboy), or in the case of the first DEATH WISH, standard dress shoes in his films. I've heard he had issues with height, but he had no reason to--he was the real deal, being a Purple Heart winning B-29 tailgunner.
In later life he did look less than 5'8" but I'm almost certain that's due to the hip replacement/later health problems. One other note about Bronson: he was another guy with very good posture. For good reading on him, I would recommend Michael R. Pitts' CHARLES BRONSON: THE 95 FILMS AND THE 156 TELEVISION APPEARANCES. Excellent encyclopedia on Bronson's life & career.
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mike said on 5/Apr/11
@rob
In the movie "Breakout", Randy Quaid played his associate. Randy Quaid is a very big guy. He was considerably taller than Bronson, but did not completely owned him as he should have if Bronson was only 5'8". Bronson just might be 5'10" as stated in other websites.
@rob
In the movie "Breakout", Randy Quaid played his associate. Randy Quaid is a very big guy. He was considerably taller than Bronson, but did not completely owned him as he should have if Bronson was only 5'8". Bronson just might be 5'10" as stated in other websites.
mike said on 5/Apr/11
There is no way Jan Michael Vincent was 2 1/2 inches taller than him for sure.
There is no way Jan Michael Vincent was 2 1/2 inches taller than him for sure.
dan said on 1/Apr/11
never bronson wasnt 5"10 barefoot watch his western movies he was average and as for the 6"ft mug shots they are not real its fake
never bronson wasnt 5"10 barefoot watch his western movies he was average and as for the 6"ft mug shots they are not real its fake
mike said on 24/Mar/11
@truebloodfan
Bronson was always at 6ft in his Mugshots. Watch mr majestik. The ruler in his mugshot states 6 ft.
@truebloodfan
Bronson was always at 6ft in his Mugshots. Watch mr majestik. The ruler in his mugshot states 6 ft.
RisingForce said on 16/Mar/11
Interesting quote at the top, Rob. Maybe that's why Bronson seems to be a solid height in most of his movies.
Interesting quote at the top, Rob. Maybe that's why Bronson seems to be a solid height in most of his movies.
TruebloodFan said on 7/Mar/11
@dan says on 11/Feb/11
bronson was never 6ft with or without heels, he was always shorter than other actors who were 6ft and 5"11 like glenn ford for example, bronson with hells i think was 5"10
indeed. I'm very similar in build like Bronson, also 5ft8. frequently I get called 5ft9, although with some heels I'd look 5ft10 or 5ft10.5 at best.
Bronson was born in like early 20s. the guy was pure average during ww2.
@dan says on 11/Feb/11
bronson was never 6ft with or without heels, he was always shorter than other actors who were 6ft and 5"11 like glenn ford for example, bronson with hells i think was 5"10
indeed. I'm very similar in build like Bronson, also 5ft8. frequently I get called 5ft9, although with some heels I'd look 5ft10 or 5ft10.5 at best.
Bronson was born in like early 20s. the guy was pure average during ww2.
dan said on 11/Feb/11
bronson was never 6ft with or without heels, he was always shorter than other actors who were 6ft and 5"11 like glenn ford for example, bronson with hells i think was 5"10
bronson was never 6ft with or without heels, he was always shorter than other actors who were 6ft and 5"11 like glenn ford for example, bronson with hells i think was 5"10
m said on 7/Jan/11
@me Elvis wore boots in the army picture where he's listed around 6'
@Sam what was your father's ethnic background? Just asking because Bronson's ethnicity - Lithuanian mixed with Tatar isn't very common. Any pics?
@me Elvis wore boots in the army picture where he's listed around 6'
@Sam what was your father's ethnic background? Just asking because Bronson's ethnicity - Lithuanian mixed with Tatar isn't very common. Any pics?
me said on 1/Jan/11
@Sam
I agree. Bronson used lifts to get to 6ft. He was always portrayed as being 6 ft in all his movies. He was at least 5.9. A person under 5.9 using lifts to get to 6ft doesn't look natural.
@Sam
I agree. Bronson used lifts to get to 6ft. He was always portrayed as being 6 ft in all his movies. He was at least 5.9. A person under 5.9 using lifts to get to 6ft doesn't look natural.
Sam said on 1/Jan/11
My father stood back to back with Charles Bronson and they were the exact height of 5'9 barefoot! My dad was a 24 year vet who was a Bronson lookalike (or as my father use to say Charlie looked like him since he was 5 years older)
My father stood back to back with Charles Bronson and they were the exact height of 5'9 barefoot! My dad was a 24 year vet who was a Bronson lookalike (or as my father use to say Charlie looked like him since he was 5 years older)
Jeebs said on 7/Dec/10
I'm 100 percent certain that he was taller than 5'8. Under 5'10, yes, but more than 5'8. This is your most misguided listing, Rob.
I'm 100 percent certain that he was taller than 5'8. Under 5'10, yes, but more than 5'8. This is your most misguided listing, Rob.
me said on 4/Dec/10
@Bud
Elvis army records shows he's 5.11.75. That is not a small guy in any era.
@Bud
Elvis army records shows he's 5.11.75. That is not a small guy in any era.
Bud said on 25/Nov/10
I worked on films with both Tom Cruise and Bronson. They are both small men. Bronson had a balanced build so he could look any size with camera trickery. I don't think Bronson was 5'8"
Saw a suit jacket once worn by Elvis. Also looked quite small.
I worked on films with both Tom Cruise and Bronson. They are both small men. Bronson had a balanced build so he could look any size with camera trickery. I don't think Bronson was 5'8"
Saw a suit jacket once worn by Elvis. Also looked quite small.
John said on 20/Nov/10
Tom Cruise himself admitted to be only 5'7 and he isn't even that. He once walked off a stage in China or Japan not sure which, when a reporter remarked how short he actually is. Charle's Bronson was 5'7 max. Hollywood can make someone look like a monster. They can easily add a few inch's to a star's height. Just like they can give a star a thick full head of hair, when in reality they are close to bald. The only proof anyone needs is Stallone, some picture's he's the same height as other Star's, in other's he's shorter. The Dickinson photo says it all.
Tom Cruise himself admitted to be only 5'7 and he isn't even that. He once walked off a stage in China or Japan not sure which, when a reporter remarked how short he actually is. Charle's Bronson was 5'7 max. Hollywood can make someone look like a monster. They can easily add a few inch's to a star's height. Just like they can give a star a thick full head of hair, when in reality they are close to bald. The only proof anyone needs is Stallone, some picture's he's the same height as other Star's, in other's he's shorter. The Dickinson photo says it all.
John said on 20/Nov/10
Bronson was no taller than 5'7 if that. In Hard Time's when he is sitting on the balcony, he put's his boot up, look at how huge his heel's are when he put's his feet up, there at least 3 inch's. In the fight scene's he looks like a woman does when she is wearing heel's. Just like Stallone who in picture's of him walking with Janice Dickinson, Stallone is 2 inche's shorter than her and she is 5'9. Bronson was no taller than 5'7. We all know the illusion's hollywood can do.
Bronson was no taller than 5'7 if that. In Hard Time's when he is sitting on the balcony, he put's his boot up, look at how huge his heel's are when he put's his feet up, there at least 3 inch's. In the fight scene's he looks like a woman does when she is wearing heel's. Just like Stallone who in picture's of him walking with Janice Dickinson, Stallone is 2 inche's shorter than her and she is 5'9. Bronson was no taller than 5'7. We all know the illusion's hollywood can do.
Anonymous said on 29/Oct/10
Look at Bronsons footware in his movies. Looked 5'7 to me.
Look at Bronsons footware in his movies. Looked 5'7 to me.
Jeeb said on 27/Oct/10
After finally viewing The Mechanic and Telefon, it's clear that Bronson was at least 5'8.5. There's no way he could appear as tall as he does in his films and be any shorter than this. I think he's been subjected to chronic downgrading the same way Tom Cruise has. And Cruise himself is 5'8.5, no less.
After finally viewing The Mechanic and Telefon, it's clear that Bronson was at least 5'8.5. There's no way he could appear as tall as he does in his films and be any shorter than this. I think he's been subjected to chronic downgrading the same way Tom Cruise has. And Cruise himself is 5'8.5, no less.
Mark said on 1/Jul/09
I thought he was around 5'10, until I saw him on Bonanza, today. He seemed shorter than most everyone, and I don't just mean the Cartwright lift wearers.
I thought he was around 5'10, until I saw him on Bonanza, today. He seemed shorter than most everyone, and I don't just mean the Cartwright lift wearers.
RisingForce said on 8/Jun/09
Look at this shot from The Dirty Dozen. It seems that your estimates for Bronson and Telly match up when you compare the 2. Click Here I see 3 inches between them.
I haven't seen that many of his 50's films. He looked average to me in Machine Gun Kelly(1958) to me. He was shorter than Yul Brynner in The Magnificent Seven(1960) and gave a shorter impression in that film. It was in the 70's when Bronson really started looking taller to me in films like Death Wish and The Mechanic.
Look at this shot from The Dirty Dozen. It seems that your estimates for Bronson and Telly match up when you compare the 2. Click Here I see 3 inches between them.
I haven't seen that many of his 50's films. He looked average to me in Machine Gun Kelly(1958) to me. He was shorter than Yul Brynner in The Magnificent Seven(1960) and gave a shorter impression in that film. It was in the 70's when Bronson really started looking taller to me in films like Death Wish and The Mechanic.
Frank2 said on 7/Jun/09
Nope. He always looked short going back to the original HOUSE OF WAX where he was obviously shorter than 5'9" Paul Picerni. I always figured that Bronson was no more than 5'8", probably 5'7" so when I first saw him at Universal, I realized I was correct.
Nope. He always looked short going back to the original HOUSE OF WAX where he was obviously shorter than 5'9" Paul Picerni. I always figured that Bronson was no more than 5'8", probably 5'7" so when I first saw him at Universal, I realized I was correct.
RisingForce said on 7/Jun/09
Frank2, were you surprised at how much smaller Bronson was considering he had the image of a tough guy?
Frank2, were you surprised at how much smaller Bronson was considering he had the image of a tough guy?
Frank2 said on 5/Jun/09
I met him at Universal Studioswhen he entered an elevator I was in. He was with his wife, Jill Ireland. The second time was at the Golden Boot Awards dinner. He was dressed not in western wear which surprised me, but in a suit. He wore shoes with one heel larger than the other by at least half an inch so I figured he must have had one leg shorter than the other. Why? I have no idea. Both times I towered over him.
I met him at Universal Studioswhen he entered an elevator I was in. He was with his wife, Jill Ireland. The second time was at the Golden Boot Awards dinner. He was dressed not in western wear which surprised me, but in a suit. He wore shoes with one heel larger than the other by at least half an inch so I figured he must have had one leg shorter than the other. Why? I have no idea. Both times I towered over him.
RisingForce said on 5/Jun/09
I'll agree that's possible, he can look that height. I guess he just had some really good lifts and he always had good posture. Out of curiosity what years did you meet him Frank?
I'll agree that's possible, he can look that height. I guess he just had some really good lifts and he always had good posture. Out of curiosity what years did you meet him Frank?
Frank2 said on 4/Jun/09
RisingForce, trust me. Bronson was about 5'7". Stood right next to him on at least two occasions.
And Elvis was just about might height or 5'11". Met him too.
RisingForce, trust me. Bronson was about 5'7". Stood right next to him on at least two occasions.
And Elvis was just about might height or 5'11". Met him too.
RisingForce said on 4/Jun/09
I was right there with you James on that estimate. I thought Bronson was 5'8" max, possibly 5'7" for a while. But I'm a huge Bronson fan and having watched dozens of his movies, he just doesn't seem that short. Ocassionally he looks 5'8" or under like when he was shorter than Yul Brynner side by side in The Magnificent Seven or when Telly Savalas had 3 inches on him in The Dirty Dozen. But then again Brynner could be 5'8" or 5'9" and he could've worn lifts since I've heard he was sensitive about his height. I also heard a story that Brynner used tricks to look taller in The Magnificent Seven alongside Steve McQueen. Maybe this was a factor in him looking taller than Bronson as well. Telly Savalas is another height I'm unsure of, I've heard everything from 5'10" to 6'1".
I think I also remember a scene in The Mechanic where Jan Michael Vincent(listed at 5'10.5" here) was just 2 inches taller than Bronson who was wearing slippers! There was also a scene in The Great Escape where James Coburn in boots only has about 6 inches on Bronson who is barefoot.
I was right there with you James on that estimate. I thought Bronson was 5'8" max, possibly 5'7" for a while. But I'm a huge Bronson fan and having watched dozens of his movies, he just doesn't seem that short. Ocassionally he looks 5'8" or under like when he was shorter than Yul Brynner side by side in The Magnificent Seven or when Telly Savalas had 3 inches on him in The Dirty Dozen. But then again Brynner could be 5'8" or 5'9" and he could've worn lifts since I've heard he was sensitive about his height. I also heard a story that Brynner used tricks to look taller in The Magnificent Seven alongside Steve McQueen. Maybe this was a factor in him looking taller than Bronson as well. Telly Savalas is another height I'm unsure of, I've heard everything from 5'10" to 6'1".
I think I also remember a scene in The Mechanic where Jan Michael Vincent(listed at 5'10.5" here) was just 2 inches taller than Bronson who was wearing slippers! There was also a scene in The Great Escape where James Coburn in boots only has about 6 inches on Bronson who is barefoot.
James said on 4/Jun/09
Bronson is listed 5'10 and 5'11 on a bunch of sites but I honestly don't think he was anything over 5'8, mabey even a little shorter. 5'7.5 looks fairly accurate in my opinion.
Bronson is listed 5'10 and 5'11 on a bunch of sites but I honestly don't think he was anything over 5'8, mabey even a little shorter. 5'7.5 looks fairly accurate in my opinion.
RisingForce said on 3/Jun/09
Standard cowboy boots have 2 inch heels.
Standard cowboy boots have 2 inch heels.
guyfrommars said on 3/Jun/09
Bronson wore 2-inch heels in Once Upon a Time in the West (there's a good closeup of his boots in the movie) and still looked short next to 6ft1 Henry Fonda (in smaller heeled cowboy boots).
Bronson wore 2-inch heels in Once Upon a Time in the West (there's a good closeup of his boots in the movie) and still looked short next to 6ft1 Henry Fonda (in smaller heeled cowboy boots).
Lego said on 28/May/09
he had usually an excellent relaxed posture and his body was pretty lean and proportioned with bit of a longer legs.
i'd give him an easy 5'9 or 175cm in the early days up to 1985 where his shoes (with no obvious lifts) made him look a strong 5'10.5, then he definitely shrunk a bit and to me looked 5'8.
i don't see 5'7 imo
he had usually an excellent relaxed posture and his body was pretty lean and proportioned with bit of a longer legs.
i'd give him an easy 5'9 or 175cm in the early days up to 1985 where his shoes (with no obvious lifts) made him look a strong 5'10.5, then he definitely shrunk a bit and to me looked 5'8.
i don't see 5'7 imo
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
well if he had 2 inch heels vs elvis boxing shoes then he'd defintley be under 5-9 and possibly under 5-8. bronson is confusing, the only way to settle this is ro find his military measurements.
well if he had 2 inch heels vs elvis boxing shoes then he'd defintley be under 5-9 and possibly under 5-8. bronson is confusing, the only way to settle this is ro find his military measurements.
dan said on 22/May/09
there is definately 2-3 inches between them, i saw this movie elvis is about 6 ft. in that photo and in flat shoes, bronson has heels on they looked around 2inches that brings us right back to 5"7 to 5"8
there is definately 2-3 inches between them, i saw this movie elvis is about 6 ft. in that photo and in flat shoes, bronson has heels on they looked around 2inches that brings us right back to 5"7 to 5"8
RisingForce said on 22/May/09
here are some pictures of bronson and elvis. Click Here Click Here well considering all of the factors it appears like bronson was 2-3 inches shorter than elvis. it's hard to see bronson at less then 5-9 there, although a footwear advantage for bronson is likely considering elvis would be in flat boxing footwear.
here are some pictures of bronson and elvis. Click Here Click Here well considering all of the factors it appears like bronson was 2-3 inches shorter than elvis. it's hard to see bronson at less then 5-9 there, although a footwear advantage for bronson is likely considering elvis would be in flat boxing footwear.
RisingForce said on 20/May/09
elvis measured 6-0 4 times and 5-11 once. i'd be very curious to hear what bronson measured. i'd bet he measured around 5-9 or close to it.
elvis measured 6-0 4 times and 5-11 once. i'd be very curious to hear what bronson measured. i'd bet he measured around 5-9 or close to it.
cyberyank said on 19/May/09
Elvis' army records indicates he was a about a quarter inch under 6 feet. He's not a small guy, but not a real big one either. He was about 6'3" on stage with platform shoes.
Elvis' army records indicates he was a about a quarter inch under 6 feet. He's not a small guy, but not a real big one either. He was about 6'3" on stage with platform shoes.
RisingForce said on 18/May/09
if it was free then i'd just get bronson's army measurements like that guy did on the elvis page to settle this, but i think he had to pay money for those records. i'm curious about bronson's height, but not THAT curious.
if it was free then i'd just get bronson's army measurements like that guy did on the elvis page to settle this, but i think he had to pay money for those records. i'm curious about bronson's height, but not THAT curious.
RisingForce said on 16/May/09
that was assumning that telly savalas was 5-10 and yul brynner was 5-8. i read in a biography that brynner was 5-9 and claimed 6 ft. brynner looked 5-9 to me. i also read that brynner was sensitive about his height, so he may have worn lifts as well. telly was an enigma himself, looked 5-11 to 6 ft in some movies with no noticeable footwear advantage and then 5-10 at others, plus there's those huge heels he always wore(though he didn't have a noticeable footwear advantage over bronson in the movie). he did look atleast 6 inches shorter than lee marvin at one point of the dirty dozen, but the ground looked like it may not be even and the difference was only 4, 5 inches in other scenes. he was also taller than josh cassavetes in that movie who is supposed to be 5-7. here are the pics with telly savalas again because the old links don't work. Click Here Click Here i see a full 3 inches in the first pic and 2 or 3 in the second.
generally i don't like to judge height from movies, but with bronson that's almost all we have to go on because there aren't many premiere pics and you never met him. you said that your peers always said he was average? bronson was really the mel gibson of his era, he could look 5-7 to 5-10. he even looked 5-10 or close to it in slippers and barefeet. now that's something i can't explain. they actually listed bronson's character in the mechanic at 6 feet and 155 pounds and vincent's at 5-11, 165 pounds! which makes no sense considering vincent was visibly taller and visibly thinner. great movie though.
that was assumning that telly savalas was 5-10 and yul brynner was 5-8. i read in a biography that brynner was 5-9 and claimed 6 ft. brynner looked 5-9 to me. i also read that brynner was sensitive about his height, so he may have worn lifts as well. telly was an enigma himself, looked 5-11 to 6 ft in some movies with no noticeable footwear advantage and then 5-10 at others, plus there's those huge heels he always wore(though he didn't have a noticeable footwear advantage over bronson in the movie). he did look atleast 6 inches shorter than lee marvin at one point of the dirty dozen, but the ground looked like it may not be even and the difference was only 4, 5 inches in other scenes. he was also taller than josh cassavetes in that movie who is supposed to be 5-7. here are the pics with telly savalas again because the old links don't work. Click Here Click Here i see a full 3 inches in the first pic and 2 or 3 in the second.
generally i don't like to judge height from movies, but with bronson that's almost all we have to go on because there aren't many premiere pics and you never met him. you said that your peers always said he was average? bronson was really the mel gibson of his era, he could look 5-7 to 5-10. he even looked 5-10 or close to it in slippers and barefeet. now that's something i can't explain. they actually listed bronson's character in the mechanic at 6 feet and 155 pounds and vincent's at 5-11, 165 pounds! which makes no sense considering vincent was visibly taller and visibly thinner. great movie though.
glenn said on 16/May/09
i thought he was 5-7/5-8? the conclusion we came to? i always said 5-9 until i saw those blocks on his feet.
i thought he was 5-7/5-8? the conclusion we came to? i always said 5-9 until i saw those blocks on his feet.
RisingForce said on 15/May/09
after watching the mechanic again and making a point of comparing his height better, he was never more than 2 inches shorter than jan michael vincent, even in full body shots. vincent is listed here at 5-10.5. there's a reason where bronson in slippers is less than 2 inches shorter than vincent in shoes. keenan wynn was supposed to be 5-10 and bronson looked atleast 5-8.5, 5-9 next to wynn. bronson's shoes had decent sized heels on them in some scenes, but that wouldn't explain him holding his height in slippers next to vincent.
just like bronson barefoot looking just 6 inches shorter than 6-2 james coburn in boots. charles had to be 5-9, 5-10 unless they cast REALLY short extras and used shorter doorways. he looked 5-7 a few times, but 5-9, 5-10 range makes far more sense.
after watching the mechanic again and making a point of comparing his height better, he was never more than 2 inches shorter than jan michael vincent, even in full body shots. vincent is listed here at 5-10.5. there's a reason where bronson in slippers is less than 2 inches shorter than vincent in shoes. keenan wynn was supposed to be 5-10 and bronson looked atleast 5-8.5, 5-9 next to wynn. bronson's shoes had decent sized heels on them in some scenes, but that wouldn't explain him holding his height in slippers next to vincent.
just like bronson barefoot looking just 6 inches shorter than 6-2 james coburn in boots. charles had to be 5-9, 5-10 unless they cast REALLY short extras and used shorter doorways. he looked 5-7 a few times, but 5-9, 5-10 range makes far more sense.
RisingForce said on 9/May/09
i have to say that if bronson was 5-7, he's the tallest looking 5-7 guy i've ever seen. the strange thing is that 5-7 would look pretty accurate if telly savalas is 5-10 as widely believed and yul brynner was 5-8 as he's listed here.
but was charles really shorter than guys like tom cruise, robert downey jr., mark wahlberg, bruce lee ect.? that, i find hard to believe. i'll have to go with 5-9ish for bronson for now.
i have to say that if bronson was 5-7, he's the tallest looking 5-7 guy i've ever seen. the strange thing is that 5-7 would look pretty accurate if telly savalas is 5-10 as widely believed and yul brynner was 5-8 as he's listed here.
but was charles really shorter than guys like tom cruise, robert downey jr., mark wahlberg, bruce lee ect.? that, i find hard to believe. i'll have to go with 5-9ish for bronson for now.
dan said on 24/Apr/09
i would believe that before he was 5"10 or 11or even 9, bronson was 5"9 in shoes whatever the heel size and thats it
i would believe that before he was 5"10 or 11or even 9, bronson was 5"9 in shoes whatever the heel size and thats it
Sal said on 23/Apr/09
My friend bodyguarded Charles bronson and he said he was 5'4' whcih probaly means around 5'6".
My friend bodyguarded Charles bronson and he said he was 5'4' whcih probaly means around 5'6".
cyberyank said on 6/Apr/09
In the mechanic, if you look closely at the hit papers that Jan Vincent made, says he's 6 ft even which is pretty hillarious. Bronson described Vincent as 5'11" which he clearly isn't. I think both of them is probably in the 5'8" range.
In the mechanic, if you look closely at the hit papers that Jan Vincent made, says he's 6 ft even which is pretty hillarious. Bronson described Vincent as 5'11" which he clearly isn't. I think both of them is probably in the 5'8" range.
RisingForce said on 4/Apr/09
That's funny that Bronson "grew" 2 inches when he was in his late 40's/early 50's. He also got a lot of 5-10 listings. Does anyone know what he claimed in interviews?
That's funny that Bronson "grew" 2 inches when he was in his late 40's/early 50's. He also got a lot of 5-10 listings. Does anyone know what he claimed in interviews?
dan said on 3/Apr/09
in man with a camera series, one episode has him in a police line up his head just touches 5"8 with shoes, but in an episode of the f,b,i he is listed as 5"9 and then he grew to 5"11for the seventies.
in man with a camera series, one episode has him in a police line up his head just touches 5"8 with shoes, but in an episode of the f,b,i he is listed as 5"9 and then he grew to 5"11for the seventies.
RisingForce said on 30/Mar/09
Duvall 5'7" max? Come on, that's just not realistic. Duvall was or is in the 5'9", 5'10" range.
Duvall 5'7" max? Come on, that's just not realistic. Duvall was or is in the 5'9", 5'10" range.
glenn said on 29/Mar/09
duvall is 5-9.5 minimum.very possibly 5-10.saw him in dress shoe look 5-10 in front of me,and 5-9 in casuals.
duvall is 5-9.5 minimum.very possibly 5-10.saw him in dress shoe look 5-10 in front of me,and 5-9 in casuals.
sodapop said on 28/Mar/09
Duvall is not 5-9.5, Hes 5'7 max, he wears boots alot
Duvall is not 5-9.5, Hes 5'7 max, he wears boots alot
adam said on 28/Mar/09
Bronson was 5-7 and so was Brynner. James Coburn was 6-2, Duvall 5-9
Bronson was 5-7 and so was Brynner. James Coburn was 6-2, Duvall 5-9
RisingForce said on 24/Mar/09
Just as I'm leaning towards 5'9" minimum I realize that I can't explain Bronson in cowboy boots being shorter than Duvall barefoot. And I can't assume that Bronson was at a disadvantage with Brynner and Savalas or that they're taller than we think.
I don't think I'll ever figure this out.
Just as I'm leaning towards 5'9" minimum I realize that I can't explain Bronson in cowboy boots being shorter than Duvall barefoot. And I can't assume that Bronson was at a disadvantage with Brynner and Savalas or that they're taller than we think.
I don't think I'll ever figure this out.
glenn said on 23/Mar/09
i mightve been 5-7 with wilford.
i mightve been 5-7 with wilford.
RisingForce said on 23/Mar/09
I always saw Wilford listed at 5'8". Next time I watch 10 To Midnight I'll remember to compare them. In Harg Target Van Damme had 2-3 inches on Brimley, but JCVD did have boots and a posture advantage. I don't remember how he measured up Kurt Russell in The Thing.
Gibson is less of an enigma to me now. He can look 5-8ish, but I just can't see him under 5'9" and around the same height as guys like Cruise, Downey, Wahlberg, Piven ect. He looks taller than those guys, Gibson must be 5'9"-5'10" in my opinion. Of course I agree with you on Stallone, 5'10.75" out of bed and Arnie in my opinion is 5'11.5", 6'0" which I think is around where you have him or maybe a little higher.
If you look at Bronson's proportions he looks much more like an average 5'9"-5'10" guy than a 5'7"-5'8" guy. But that can be misleading.
I always saw Wilford listed at 5'8". Next time I watch 10 To Midnight I'll remember to compare them. In Harg Target Van Damme had 2-3 inches on Brimley, but JCVD did have boots and a posture advantage. I don't remember how he measured up Kurt Russell in The Thing.
Gibson is less of an enigma to me now. He can look 5-8ish, but I just can't see him under 5'9" and around the same height as guys like Cruise, Downey, Wahlberg, Piven ect. He looks taller than those guys, Gibson must be 5'9"-5'10" in my opinion. Of course I agree with you on Stallone, 5'10.75" out of bed and Arnie in my opinion is 5'11.5", 6'0" which I think is around where you have him or maybe a little higher.
If you look at Bronson's proportions he looks much more like an average 5'9"-5'10" guy than a 5'7"-5'8" guy. But that can be misleading.
glenn said on 22/Mar/09
i think i lost my wilford pic.my ron howard is gone for sure.taken the same moment.the wilford i thought i saw a couple of years ago.i thought he was 5-9.maybe he was 5-8.
i think i lost my wilford pic.my ron howard is gone for sure.taken the same moment.the wilford i thought i saw a couple of years ago.i thought he was 5-9.maybe he was 5-8.
glenn said on 22/Mar/09
him and gibson are the 2 biggest enigmas for me.i already know how tall sly and arnold are.
him and gibson are the 2 biggest enigmas for me.i already know how tall sly and arnold are.
RisingForce said on 21/Mar/09
There's a good chance he's either 5'7" or 5'10". 5'8.5" maybe makes the most sense at the moment. A lot points to 5'7", but some stuff nearly rules that out. He gave a legit 5'10" impression in movies.
I thought for sure he was around 5'7" until seeing him barefoot next to Coburn who was wearing boots. Coburn would be almost 6'4" in the boots and he didn't seem more than 6 inches taller than Bronson! Bronson was an inch or 2 taller than Wilford Brimley in 10 To Midnight as well. But I assumed that was because of Bronson's excellent posture vs Brimley's old man posture plus footwear, camera tricks ect.
But in the Dirty Dozen in full body shots Lee Marvin had atleast 6 inches on Bronson and they were both wearing boots. I think the chances are very slim that Marvin was wearing lifts and Bronson wasn't. Marvin was said to be either 6'1" or 6'2" which puts Bronson at 5'7"-5'8" there. Then in the same film Telly Savalas had 3 inches on Bronson. But Telly is another guy I'm unsure of and considering those massive heels he used to wear it wouldn't surprise me if he wore lifts. Then in The Magnificent Seven Yul Brynner was taller than Bronson in a clear side by side shot, both wearing cowboy boots. But Brynner could wear lifts or Brynner could be taller than 5'8". Then again 5'10" max Robert Duvall was barefoot and taller than Bronson was in cowboy boots in breakout.
Bronson just gives the impression of more of a 5'9"-5'10" guy, then again most people who have met him say 5'7". But it could be a case where people expect him to be big so he seems smaller than he is.
Bronson is officially the biggest height enigma in my opinion. I'd say a full 5'10" is a bit too much, but over 5'9" is very possible.
There's a good chance he's either 5'7" or 5'10". 5'8.5" maybe makes the most sense at the moment. A lot points to 5'7", but some stuff nearly rules that out. He gave a legit 5'10" impression in movies.
I thought for sure he was around 5'7" until seeing him barefoot next to Coburn who was wearing boots. Coburn would be almost 6'4" in the boots and he didn't seem more than 6 inches taller than Bronson! Bronson was an inch or 2 taller than Wilford Brimley in 10 To Midnight as well. But I assumed that was because of Bronson's excellent posture vs Brimley's old man posture plus footwear, camera tricks ect.
But in the Dirty Dozen in full body shots Lee Marvin had atleast 6 inches on Bronson and they were both wearing boots. I think the chances are very slim that Marvin was wearing lifts and Bronson wasn't. Marvin was said to be either 6'1" or 6'2" which puts Bronson at 5'7"-5'8" there. Then in the same film Telly Savalas had 3 inches on Bronson. But Telly is another guy I'm unsure of and considering those massive heels he used to wear it wouldn't surprise me if he wore lifts. Then in The Magnificent Seven Yul Brynner was taller than Bronson in a clear side by side shot, both wearing cowboy boots. But Brynner could wear lifts or Brynner could be taller than 5'8". Then again 5'10" max Robert Duvall was barefoot and taller than Bronson was in cowboy boots in breakout.
Bronson just gives the impression of more of a 5'9"-5'10" guy, then again most people who have met him say 5'7". But it could be a case where people expect him to be big so he seems smaller than he is.
Bronson is officially the biggest height enigma in my opinion. I'd say a full 5'10" is a bit too much, but over 5'9" is very possible.
glenn said on 21/Mar/09
pretty much risingforce.thats why i always stuck with 5-9.sort of in the middle.how much of a chance was he 5-7? 5-10?
pretty much risingforce.thats why i always stuck with 5-9.sort of in the middle.how much of a chance was he 5-7? 5-10?
RisingForce said on 20/Mar/09
I can't either. It's possible that he was anywhere from 5'7" to 5'10".
I can't either. It's possible that he was anywhere from 5'7" to 5'10".
glenn said on 19/Mar/09
i cant figure him out.
i cant figure him out.
RisingForce said on 19/Mar/09
Something's off here. In The Great Escape Charles Bronson BAREFOOT was 6 inches max shorter than James Coburn in boots. Maybe Bronson really was more like 5'9".
Something's off here. In The Great Escape Charles Bronson BAREFOOT was 6 inches max shorter than James Coburn in boots. Maybe Bronson really was more like 5'9".
RisingForce said on 23/Feb/09
Well he was a little shorter than Yul Brynner when they were standing side by side in The Magnificent Seven. They were both in cowboy boots with 2 inch heels. If Brynner is 5'8" as he's listed here then this seems to back up Bronson at 5'7"/5'7.5" unless Brynner was wearing lifts. Then again many people think that Brynner wasn't even 5'8".
Well he was a little shorter than Yul Brynner when they were standing side by side in The Magnificent Seven. They were both in cowboy boots with 2 inch heels. If Brynner is 5'8" as he's listed here then this seems to back up Bronson at 5'7"/5'7.5" unless Brynner was wearing lifts. Then again many people think that Brynner wasn't even 5'8".
cyberyank said on 12/Feb/09
I agree with you on Hoffman at around 5'5". It must have been Susan George with the big footwear. She was a tiny thing on that movie Lola with Bronson.
I agree with you on Hoffman at around 5'5". It must have been Susan George with the big footwear. She was a tiny thing on that movie Lola with Bronson.
RisingForce said on 10/Feb/09
Hoffman isn't 5'2". He's no less than 5'5".
Hoffman isn't 5'2". He's no less than 5'5".
cyberyank said on 9/Feb/09
I meant, I could have gotten a better shot with Susan George standing straighter and Bronson would still had 5 inches on her. That snap shot came out the clearest and I'm too lazy to take another photo.
I meant, I could have gotten a better shot with Susan George standing straighter and Bronson would still had 5 inches on her. That snap shot came out the clearest and I'm too lazy to take another photo.
cyberyank said on 9/Feb/09
That was just a still of Susan George bending her knees showing bronson without shoes with susan george. She was standing straighter and Bronson still had 5 inches on her. Bronson had 5 inches on her throughout the movie. Susan George did not look very tall in the movie at all. I think Dustin Hoffman is really around 5'2" and he is the one with the extraordinary footwear.
That was just a still of Susan George bending her knees showing bronson without shoes with susan george. She was standing straighter and Bronson still had 5 inches on her. Bronson had 5 inches on her throughout the movie. Susan George did not look very tall in the movie at all. I think Dustin Hoffman is really around 5'2" and he is the one with the extraordinary footwear.
RisingForce said on 7/Feb/09
I agree that Bronson was likely never over 5'8" because 5'10ish Telly Savalas had 3 inches on him easily.
Bronson was likely about 5'7" for most of his adult life.
I agree that Bronson was likely never over 5'8" because 5'10ish Telly Savalas had 3 inches on him easily.
Bronson was likely about 5'7" for most of his adult life.
dan said on 6/Feb/09
susan george is listed as 5"5 on i.m.d.b and Dustin Hoffman is listed as5"5 and a half, but in the photo shotfrom straw dogs hoffman looks 2inches taller. bronson i still think 5"8 tops no more than that
susan george is listed as 5"5 on i.m.d.b and Dustin Hoffman is listed as5"5 and a half, but in the photo shotfrom straw dogs hoffman looks 2inches taller. bronson i still think 5"8 tops no more than that
RisingForce said on 6/Feb/09
Bronson does look around 5-10.5 there cyberyank but Susan is bending her knees and slouching and Bronson is standing as straight as possible, plus he's closer to the camera.
Bronson does look around 5-10.5 there cyberyank but Susan is bending her knees and slouching and Bronson is standing as straight as possible, plus he's closer to the camera.
cyberyank said on 6/Feb/09
Sean Penn is not a tall guy. There were pics showing 5'10" George Harrison towering over Penn and Madonna.
Sean Penn is not a tall guy. There were pics showing 5'10" George Harrison towering over Penn and Madonna.
cyberyank said on 5/Feb/09
Bronson without shoes with 5'6" Susan George in the movie "Lola". Either Bronson is 5'11" or Susan George is very short. Susan George is probably really really short because Bronson was barly taller than 5'6" Andrew Stevens in 10 to Midnight.
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Bronson without shoes with 5'6" Susan George in the movie "Lola". Either Bronson is 5'11" or Susan George is very short. Susan George is probably really really short because Bronson was barly taller than 5'6" Andrew Stevens in 10 to Midnight.
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RisingForce said on 2/Feb/09
Well in his later career he also worked with less known actors so they could specifically look for shorter actors without having to worry about them being big stars because Bronson's later movies weren't big budget anyway. I also noticed that later on Bronson had Stallone posture.
Bronson is one guy who I would have liked to have met. A true legend and one of my favorite actors.
Well in his later career he also worked with less known actors so they could specifically look for shorter actors without having to worry about them being big stars because Bronson's later movies weren't big budget anyway. I also noticed that later on Bronson had Stallone posture.
Bronson is one guy who I would have liked to have met. A true legend and one of my favorite actors.
glenn said on 1/Feb/09
true.as he got older he looked taller.
true.as he got older he looked taller.
RisingForce said on 31/Jan/09
Me too, but now it's clear he was 5-7ish, maybe 5-8 at best when he was younger. The cast of 10 to Midnight must have been really short, I think he was taller(or they made him taller) than everyone in that film.
Bronson just doesn't seem like a 5-7 guy to me in those 80's and 90's films, he seems 5-9, 5-10. It's the early movies where you can see he was 5-7, 5-8. He must have gotten really good at wearing lifts.
Me too, but now it's clear he was 5-7ish, maybe 5-8 at best when he was younger. The cast of 10 to Midnight must have been really short, I think he was taller(or they made him taller) than everyone in that film.
Bronson just doesn't seem like a 5-7 guy to me in those 80's and 90's films, he seems 5-9, 5-10. It's the early movies where you can see he was 5-7, 5-8. He must have gotten really good at wearing lifts.
glenn said on 30/Jan/09
wow.well duvall is a legit 5-10.crazy to think i was convinced bronson was 5-9 all these years.
wow.well duvall is a legit 5-10.crazy to think i was convinced bronson was 5-9 all these years.
RisingForce said on 30/Jan/09
Wow, I just watched Breakout again and in one scene Robert Duvall is barefoot and Bronson is in cowboy boots, yet Duvall is taller! That means that Duvall was atleast 2 1/2, maybe 3 inches taller than Bronson?
Wow, I just watched Breakout again and in one scene Robert Duvall is barefoot and Bronson is in cowboy boots, yet Duvall is taller! That means that Duvall was atleast 2 1/2, maybe 3 inches taller than Bronson?
nicolas said on 26/Jan/09
If you ever see the movie Violent City (also known as the family). You will note a prision scene in the Bahamas, with a black guard escorting Bronson. The guard is so much taller than Charlie was.
If you ever see the movie Violent City (also known as the family). You will note a prision scene in the Bahamas, with a black guard escorting Bronson. The guard is so much taller than Charlie was.
RisingForce said on 13/Jan/09
Man this just got more confusing for me. I just watched 10 to Midnight again and Bronson was an inch or 2 taller than Wilford Brimley, and Bronson was not in obvious elevator shoes. And he was 61 in that film!
Man this just got more confusing for me. I just watched 10 to Midnight again and Bronson was an inch or 2 taller than Wilford Brimley, and Bronson was not in obvious elevator shoes. And he was 61 in that film!
RisingForce said on 3/Jan/09
You mean Bronson was 5-7, not Telly right?
Charles is the tallest looking 5-7 guy I've ever seen. They really did make him appear 5-9, 5-10 in movies. Subtle lifts, excellent posture, short co-stars and camera tricks were how he always looked average.
You mean Bronson was 5-7, not Telly right?
Charles is the tallest looking 5-7 guy I've ever seen. They really did make him appear 5-9, 5-10 in movies. Subtle lifts, excellent posture, short co-stars and camera tricks were how he always looked average.
dan said on 2/Jan/09
telly was 5"7 incredible, guys everybody says bronson looked 5"9 to 5"10 thats because he probably was on screen, in westerns he had at least 2 inches on his booth that we could see,and death wish films i reckon he stood at5"9 and all other like 10 to midnight and so on,if bronson had been 5"9 barefoot then hewould have been 5"11 in most movies and the same if he had been 5"10 barefoot he would have made 6 foot, he never looked 5"11 or 6 foot, 5"8 tops
telly was 5"7 incredible, guys everybody says bronson looked 5"9 to 5"10 thats because he probably was on screen, in westerns he had at least 2 inches on his booth that we could see,and death wish films i reckon he stood at5"9 and all other like 10 to midnight and so on,if bronson had been 5"9 barefoot then hewould have been 5"11 in most movies and the same if he had been 5"10 barefoot he would have made 6 foot, he never looked 5"11 or 6 foot, 5"8 tops
adam said on 1/Jan/09
5-7 is correct, Rob! He wore lifts.
5-7 is correct, Rob! He wore lifts.
RisingForce said on 29/Dec/08
I used to think Telly was a 6 footer so I never thought much of him looking that short in The Dirty Dozen.
5-7ish throughout his career, probably even through the 90's. One of the rare guys like Sly and Robert Redford who don't lose height.
I used to think Telly was a 6 footer so I never thought much of him looking that short in The Dirty Dozen.
5-7ish throughout his career, probably even through the 90's. One of the rare guys like Sly and Robert Redford who don't lose height.
Parker said on 29/Dec/08
You know dan, I've seen the Columbo episode you are refering to 'Murder in Malibu' and I thought Stevens had 2 to 3 inches on Peter Falk. I could obviously be wrong, but it does show you how people can judge heights differently.
You know dan, I've seen the Columbo episode you are refering to 'Murder in Malibu' and I thought Stevens had 2 to 3 inches on Peter Falk. I could obviously be wrong, but it does show you how people can judge heights differently.
glenn said on 29/Dec/08
i thought he was 5-9 up until you recently posted those pics risingforce.
i thought he was 5-9 up until you recently posted those pics risingforce.
RisingForce said on 29/Dec/08
Wow, that's shocking. The rest of the actors must have been REALLY short then.
It's funny though because in one scene when he describes the killer Warren Stacy's height he puts his hand up to around his eyebrows. Warren Stacy was played by Gene Davis and he was shorter than Bronson throughout the movie but he was probably 5-6 max and Bronson wasn't as much taller as he described. This scene is in Bronson goes into the motel asking if they had seen him.
So that's how they made Charles seem average, shorter co-stars. However next to average height guys like Telly Savalas it became clear that he was about 5-7. It's strange, I always thought he was 5-10 until I went to this site.
Wow, that's shocking. The rest of the actors must have been REALLY short then.
It's funny though because in one scene when he describes the killer Warren Stacy's height he puts his hand up to around his eyebrows. Warren Stacy was played by Gene Davis and he was shorter than Bronson throughout the movie but he was probably 5-6 max and Bronson wasn't as much taller as he described. This scene is in Bronson goes into the motel asking if they had seen him.
So that's how they made Charles seem average, shorter co-stars. However next to average height guys like Telly Savalas it became clear that he was about 5-7. It's strange, I always thought he was 5-10 until I went to this site.
glenn said on 28/Dec/08
outstanding find dan.good work.
outstanding find dan.good work.
dan said on 27/Dec/08
andrew stevens was in 10 to midnight with him and they looked about even, in an episode of columbo stevens was only barely taller than peter falk an inch at most and falk is listed on i.m.d.b as 5"6
andrew stevens was in 10 to midnight with him and they looked about even, in an episode of columbo stevens was only barely taller than peter falk an inch at most and falk is listed on i.m.d.b as 5"6
RisingForce said on 27/Dec/08
He gives the impression of a real average height guy in 10 to Midnight although they may have cast short actors in that film.
He gives the impression of a real average height guy in 10 to Midnight although they may have cast short actors in that film.
RisingForce said on 17/Dec/08
I agree. But footwear, posture and camera tricks can make you appear 3 inches taller than you are. Actually footwear and posture alone, Bronson always had good posture, even in his 70's.
I agree. But footwear, posture and camera tricks can make you appear 3 inches taller than you are. Actually footwear and posture alone, Bronson always had good posture, even in his 70's.
glenn said on 16/Dec/08
he passed for a 5-10 guy well.
he passed for a 5-10 guy well.
RisingForce said on 16/Dec/08
Since it appears he was only around 5-7 he has to have been one of the best lift wearers I've ever seen in the 70's/80's. He pulled off looking like a legit 5-9 guy atleast without shoes that were too obvious.
Since it appears he was only around 5-7 he has to have been one of the best lift wearers I've ever seen in the 70's/80's. He pulled off looking like a legit 5-9 guy atleast without shoes that were too obvious.
Neon Genesis said on 15/Dec/08
Bronson looked really short in Once Upon A Time in the West, I guess 5' 7" (170 cm) is correct for him.
Bronson looked really short in Once Upon A Time in the West, I guess 5' 7" (170 cm) is correct for him.
RisingForce said on 15/Dec/08
Yeah, he's really good at passing himself off as taller then because I always pictured him as a 5-9/5-10 guy. Then again a strong 5-7 guy with good posture and thick footwear can easily look dead on average.
Yeah, he's really good at passing himself off as taller then because I always pictured him as a 5-9/5-10 guy. Then again a strong 5-7 guy with good posture and thick footwear can easily look dead on average.
glenn said on 14/Dec/08
interesting post on telly risingforce.im shocked bronson might be that low.
interesting post on telly risingforce.im shocked bronson might be that low.
Vibram said on 13/Dec/08
In Mr. Majestyk he was photographed in the police station and was 5'10" in boots. I too noticed he was in thick, near-cowboy style heels in that film. I suppose 5'10" in boots looks average, plus the fact that Charles had thin, bowed legs and although muscular/ripped well into old age, he didn't look it when fully clothed and looked rather slim. I would say 5'7.5" in the 1970s, perhaps 5'8" prime up until the 1960's.
In Mr. Majestyk he was photographed in the police station and was 5'10" in boots. I too noticed he was in thick, near-cowboy style heels in that film. I suppose 5'10" in boots looks average, plus the fact that Charles had thin, bowed legs and although muscular/ripped well into old age, he didn't look it when fully clothed and looked rather slim. I would say 5'7.5" in the 1970s, perhaps 5'8" prime up until the 1960's.
dan said on 9/Dec/08
in MAN WITH A CAMERA episode bronson is in a police line up, his head only just makes 2 inches above the 5"6 line and he has an inch heel on his shoe which can be seen after, so he is 5"7 for definate
in MAN WITH A CAMERA episode bronson is in a police line up, his head only just makes 2 inches above the 5"6 line and he has an inch heel on his shoe which can be seen after, so he is 5"7 for definate
RisingForce said on 7/Dec/08
Glenn, I use to think Telly was 5'11", 6'0" because he gave that impression but he probably went to bed in 3" massive heeled shoes with lifts. I never saw him without them in any film. He almost always wore them on Kojak too. I saw a video of Telly and Bob Hope where Telly even wore big heels next to Bob Hope in that 70's. Here is a picture from it. Click Here
Maybe Kelly's Heros(1970) would be good for comparing Telly and Clint Eastwood. Everyone who met Telly it seems said 5'10" but he was one of the taller looking 5'10" guys I've seen. Lee Marvin however was no taller than 6'2" and possibly 6'1" so that puts Charles at 5'7", 5'8" too.
In the James Bond film Telly did he actually gave illusions of 5'8", 5'9" in a scene or 2 and that was in big heeled shoes.
I use to think Charles was 5'9" too because he always seemed average height but if you look at his ankle position in Murphy's Law when he bends down to the ground early in the film you can see it looks like he had lifts in shoes with decent sized heels. He always seemed to wear heeled shoes in Death Wish too, big enough for lifts. 5'7" plus good posture and lifts can easily give an average impression.
Glenn, I use to think Telly was 5'11", 6'0" because he gave that impression but he probably went to bed in 3" massive heeled shoes with lifts. I never saw him without them in any film. He almost always wore them on Kojak too. I saw a video of Telly and Bob Hope where Telly even wore big heels next to Bob Hope in that 70's. Here is a picture from it. Click Here
Maybe Kelly's Heros(1970) would be good for comparing Telly and Clint Eastwood. Everyone who met Telly it seems said 5'10" but he was one of the taller looking 5'10" guys I've seen. Lee Marvin however was no taller than 6'2" and possibly 6'1" so that puts Charles at 5'7", 5'8" too.
In the James Bond film Telly did he actually gave illusions of 5'8", 5'9" in a scene or 2 and that was in big heeled shoes.
I use to think Charles was 5'9" too because he always seemed average height but if you look at his ankle position in Murphy's Law when he bends down to the ground early in the film you can see it looks like he had lifts in shoes with decent sized heels. He always seemed to wear heeled shoes in Death Wish too, big enough for lifts. 5'7" plus good posture and lifts can easily give an average impression.
RisingForce said on 6/Dec/08
He could have been 5'7.5", 5'8" in my opinion too but 5'8" max in my opinion.
He could have been 5'7.5", 5'8" in my opinion too but 5'8" max in my opinion.
Ed T. said on 6/Dec/08
Good stills Rising. The stills do a great job capturing the fact that Bronson was not over 5'7".
Good stills Rising. The stills do a great job capturing the fact that Bronson was not over 5'7".
dan said on 5/Dec/08
thats a fantastic pic, i noticed this before bronsons cap is high on his head to give him height, i would say 5"8 tops he is no taller than that, im 5"8 and am often told i look 5"10, so its foot wear, or the way you stand
thats a fantastic pic, i noticed this before bronsons cap is high on his head to give him height, i would say 5"8 tops he is no taller than that, im 5"8 and am often told i look 5"10, so its foot wear, or the way you stand
glenn said on 5/Dec/08
those pics are shocking! his boots even more ghastly! wow.the man is most likely 5-7.im surprised my friends never described him as short.i asked one the other night.he said average.he mustve worn lifts to the grave.even in those blatant lifts bronson still looks short next to lee and telly.is there any possibility telly was 5-11,6ft? or is that absurd?
those pics are shocking! his boots even more ghastly! wow.the man is most likely 5-7.im surprised my friends never described him as short.i asked one the other night.he said average.he mustve worn lifts to the grave.even in those blatant lifts bronson still looks short next to lee and telly.is there any possibility telly was 5-11,6ft? or is that absurd?
RisingForce said on 4/Dec/08
Here are the stills Glenn.
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3" difference no doubt. The 5'10" and 5'7" figures fit for each or Rob's listings of 5'10.5" and 5'7.5".
Charles footwear from that scene!
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Telly's boots shown in the end of the film(don't know if they're the same ones from the scene)
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I don't think either had a footwear advantage
6'2" Lee Marvin has 6" or 7" on Charles
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Charles has to look way up just to talk to Marvin. I'm shocked I thought Charles was atleast 5-9 peak. Either he still wore lifts in the 90's or Sean Penn is 5-7.
Here are the stills Glenn.
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3" difference no doubt. The 5'10" and 5'7" figures fit for each or Rob's listings of 5'10.5" and 5'7.5".
Charles footwear from that scene!
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Telly's boots shown in the end of the film(don't know if they're the same ones from the scene)
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I don't think either had a footwear advantage
6'2" Lee Marvin has 6" or 7" on Charles
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Charles has to look way up just to talk to Marvin. I'm shocked I thought Charles was atleast 5-9 peak. Either he still wore lifts in the 90's or Sean Penn is 5-7.
glenn said on 4/Dec/08
wish i could see that scene on my smartphone.have to dig out my copy of the movie.
wish i could see that scene on my smartphone.have to dig out my copy of the movie.
glenn said on 4/Dec/08
kurt has lived where i walk everyday for a decade,if not 2 decades.never saw him or goldie.i walk by his building everyday for 20 years.so for him to be around isnt a shock.lol.actually,he isnt a rare sighting in the city.but he isnt common trash either.walking by bruce willis place is another story.i spot him all the time.
kurt has lived where i walk everyday for a decade,if not 2 decades.never saw him or goldie.i walk by his building everyday for 20 years.so for him to be around isnt a shock.lol.actually,he isnt a rare sighting in the city.but he isnt common trash either.walking by bruce willis place is another story.i spot him all the time.
RisingForce said on 4/Dec/08
By the way here are the Dirty Dozen scenes.
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Just after the 5 minute mark Lee Marvin asks everyone to lineup according to height and you get some great shots of 5'10" Telly Savalas and Bronson.
Telly shockingly has atleast 3 inches on Bronson.
By the way here are the Dirty Dozen scenes.
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Just after the 5 minute mark Lee Marvin asks everyone to lineup according to height and you get some great shots of 5'10" Telly Savalas and Bronson.
Telly shockingly has atleast 3 inches on Bronson.
RisingForce said on 3/Dec/08
Interesting, I really want to see them now. Kurt was in NYC in October, did any of your friends see him?
Interesting, I really want to see them now. Kurt was in NYC in October, did any of your friends see him?
glenn said on 3/Dec/08
series of pics i meant.
series of pics i meant.
glenn said on 2/Dec/08
kurt was 2 inches taller.couldnt see the feet.but,it was a serious of pics at the red carpet.both wearing suits.
kurt was 2 inches taller.couldnt see the feet.but,it was a serious of pics at the red carpet.both wearing suits.
RisingForce said on 2/Dec/08
Did Kurt really tower over him? By how much, I couldn't find the picture you're referring to. Were their shoes visible?
I think Kurt is 5-10 flat by the way. but no more. He was shorter than Sly barefoot in Tango and Cash.
Did Kurt really tower over him? By how much, I couldn't find the picture you're referring to. Were their shoes visible?
I think Kurt is 5-10 flat by the way. but no more. He was shorter than Sly barefoot in Tango and Cash.
glenn said on 2/Dec/08
mel is another stallone.but what had me perplexed is to how kurt russell towered him.
mel is another stallone.but what had me perplexed is to how kurt russell towered him.
RisingForce said on 1/Dec/08
I can't rule out Mel at 5-8 since you've met him and won't rule it out but it's hard for me to picture. I think he's 5-9 or 5-10, more 5-10 though. He has reached 6 ft, 6'0.5 in lifts many times such as next to Denzel, Jim Carrey, Danny Glover, Pamela Anderson, Robert Downey Jr., ect.
Then there are also the scenes of Mel in normal shoes looking half an inch or an inch taller than gary Sinise and Gary is in 2 inch heels with possible lifts. I also doubt that if Mel were 5-8 he'd bring up the subject of his height on Parkinson's show and even point to his shoes displaying there are no lifts if he truly were much shorter than he claims.
Bronson is tricky. He looked 3 inches shorter than Telly Savalas in the Dirty Dozen when they appeared to have the same boots and were side by side several times. He also looked 6-7 inches shorter than Lee Marvin in a full body shot in that film.
Then again he always seemed to be average height to me. Unfortunately there isn't that much to go by with Bronson although everyone it seems who have met him in person say 5-7.
I can't rule out Mel at 5-8 since you've met him and won't rule it out but it's hard for me to picture. I think he's 5-9 or 5-10, more 5-10 though. He has reached 6 ft, 6'0.5 in lifts many times such as next to Denzel, Jim Carrey, Danny Glover, Pamela Anderson, Robert Downey Jr., ect.
Then there are also the scenes of Mel in normal shoes looking half an inch or an inch taller than gary Sinise and Gary is in 2 inch heels with possible lifts. I also doubt that if Mel were 5-8 he'd bring up the subject of his height on Parkinson's show and even point to his shoes displaying there are no lifts if he truly were much shorter than he claims.
Bronson is tricky. He looked 3 inches shorter than Telly Savalas in the Dirty Dozen when they appeared to have the same boots and were side by side several times. He also looked 6-7 inches shorter than Lee Marvin in a full body shot in that film.
Then again he always seemed to be average height to me. Unfortunately there isn't that much to go by with Bronson although everyone it seems who have met him in person say 5-7.
glenn said on 1/Dec/08
5-7 isnt impossible.unlikely.5-7 for mel gibson id say impossible.5-8 for mel possible.i wouldnt say unlikely either.
5-7 isnt impossible.unlikely.5-7 for mel gibson id say impossible.5-8 for mel possible.i wouldnt say unlikely either.
RisingForce said on 1/Dec/08
Then again his shoes usually had pretty big heels on them and in Murphy's Law his ankle position seemed odd. There could be something to this 5'7" stuff. He'd be the tallest looking 5'7" guy I've ever seen though.
Then again his shoes usually had pretty big heels on them and in Murphy's Law his ankle position seemed odd. There could be something to this 5'7" stuff. He'd be the tallest looking 5'7" guy I've ever seen though.
RisingForce said on 28/Nov/08
5'9" seems pretty fair. He could look 5'7"-5'8" a lot though.
5'9" seems pretty fair. He could look 5'7"-5'8" a lot though.
Josh said on 27/Nov/08
He looked around the five feet 9 mark in a number of films like death wish the great esape and the mechanic.
He looked around the five feet 9 mark in a number of films like death wish the great esape and the mechanic.
glenn said on 21/Nov/08
yeah,me too.after a certain age those movies didnt scare me much.
yeah,me too.after a certain age those movies didnt scare me much.
RisingForce said on 21/Nov/08
I found Jaws scary when I was a kid too but probably not since I was about 7-8. I still think it's a good movie but I don't find it at all scary. The Exorcist scared the hell out of me up until I was about 12 too.
I found Jaws scary when I was a kid too but probably not since I was about 7-8. I still think it's a good movie but I don't find it at all scary. The Exorcist scared the hell out of me up until I was about 12 too.
glenn said on 21/Nov/08
the shining i love more than the other 2 i mentioned,but scare factor it might be 3rd for me.which is still impressive.exorcist when i was a kid #1.corny choice that is everyones #1.#2 when i was a kid was maybe jaws.now jaws doesnt scare me and the exorcist mightve dropped 10th place for me.henry is in my top 5 for disturbing.dont be afraid of the dark in top 10 for scare.you must love house on the edge of the park?.
the shining i love more than the other 2 i mentioned,but scare factor it might be 3rd for me.which is still impressive.exorcist when i was a kid #1.corny choice that is everyones #1.#2 when i was a kid was maybe jaws.now jaws doesnt scare me and the exorcist mightve dropped 10th place for me.henry is in my top 5 for disturbing.dont be afraid of the dark in top 10 for scare.you must love house on the edge of the park?.
RisingForce said on 21/Nov/08
I agree that the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is up there. The fact that they're out in pretty much the middle of nowhere makes it even scarier. Especially during the chase scene at night through the woods.
Good story about Bronson, Ed T. The Dirty Dozen was one of my favorite Charles Bronson movies.
I agree that the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is up there. The fact that they're out in pretty much the middle of nowhere makes it even scarier. Especially during the chase scene at night through the woods.
Good story about Bronson, Ed T. The Dirty Dozen was one of my favorite Charles Bronson movies.
Danimal said on 20/Nov/08
glenn says on 20/Nov/08
oh,i imagine you do danimal.i own at least 200 horror movies.maybe 300.1000-2000 movies overall.but your the king of horror.thats for sure.the scariest for me was the changeling.and maybe ghost story.what about you?
The scene in the changeling with the medium performing a seance in SO disturbing. Wow, scariest of all time??? The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is definitely up there. It has a constant feeling of inpending DOOM throughout the movie. When the girl got slapped on that meat hook, I felt like I shouldn't be watching that. I've since seen WAY MORE disturbing movies, but that one scene always stuck with me. It's up there with the scene from Hills Have Eyes where the father is being burned alive and The Last House on the Left when the girl walks into the water and gets shot dead. VERY disturbing to me. Some of the scenes in Cujo were hard to watch. The Shining is scary on so many levels (psychological). I find a lot of David Lynch movies to be scary, such as Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive. I don't find GORE scary.
glenn says on 20/Nov/08
oh,i imagine you do danimal.i own at least 200 horror movies.maybe 300.1000-2000 movies overall.but your the king of horror.thats for sure.the scariest for me was the changeling.and maybe ghost story.what about you?
The scene in the changeling with the medium performing a seance in SO disturbing. Wow, scariest of all time??? The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre is definitely up there. It has a constant feeling of inpending DOOM throughout the movie. When the girl got slapped on that meat hook, I felt like I shouldn't be watching that. I've since seen WAY MORE disturbing movies, but that one scene always stuck with me. It's up there with the scene from Hills Have Eyes where the father is being burned alive and The Last House on the Left when the girl walks into the water and gets shot dead. VERY disturbing to me. Some of the scenes in Cujo were hard to watch. The Shining is scary on so many levels (psychological). I find a lot of David Lynch movies to be scary, such as Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive. I don't find GORE scary.
Ed T. said on 20/Nov/08
Kettla, interesting story about Bronson and Lee Marvin on the "Dirty Dozen" set. No matter what height he was, Bronson always appeared to one tough son of a gun.
I remember watching a movie with Bronson and James Coburn that was made in the early to mid 1970's. It may have been called "Hard Times". Anyway, Bronson played a bare-knuckle fighter and he was very convincing in the role, with his sharp punching and the way he threw combinations.
I read an interview with Trini Lopez, who worked with Bronson in the "Dirty Dozen". According to Lopez, most of the cast and set workers on the Dirty Dozen were scared of Bronson.
Kettla, interesting story about Bronson and Lee Marvin on the "Dirty Dozen" set. No matter what height he was, Bronson always appeared to one tough son of a gun.
I remember watching a movie with Bronson and James Coburn that was made in the early to mid 1970's. It may have been called "Hard Times". Anyway, Bronson played a bare-knuckle fighter and he was very convincing in the role, with his sharp punching and the way he threw combinations.
I read an interview with Trini Lopez, who worked with Bronson in the "Dirty Dozen". According to Lopez, most of the cast and set workers on the Dirty Dozen were scared of Bronson.
glenn said on 20/Nov/08
oh,i imagine you do danimal.i own at least 200 horror movies.maybe 300.1000-2000 movies overall.but your the king of horror.thats for sure.the scariest for me was the changeling.and maybe ghost story.what about you?
oh,i imagine you do danimal.i own at least 200 horror movies.maybe 300.1000-2000 movies overall.but your the king of horror.thats for sure.the scariest for me was the changeling.and maybe ghost story.what about you?
Danimal said on 19/Nov/08
Glenn, that list is about only 1/10th of the horror movies that I have. I have some of the most obscure ones ever made. What to you was the scariest movie EVER made in your opinion Glenn?
Glenn, that list is about only 1/10th of the horror movies that I have. I have some of the most obscure ones ever made. What to you was the scariest movie EVER made in your opinion Glenn?
RisingForce said on 19/Nov/08
Thanks, yeah it's strange I've never watched Sleepaway Camp because I love those type of movies but for some reason never got around to watching it.
Thanks, yeah it's strange I've never watched Sleepaway Camp because I love those type of movies but for some reason never got around to watching it.
glenn said on 19/Nov/08
i could do without shocker or any bad metal movie like trick or treat.though the dee snider one was great.im surprised you never saw sleepaway.motel hell was classic.you need to see the beast within.
i could do without shocker or any bad metal movie like trick or treat.though the dee snider one was great.im surprised you never saw sleepaway.motel hell was classic.you need to see the beast within.
RisingForce said on 18/Nov/08
Actually some of those movies that I haven't seen I was planning on seeing anyway. Motel Hell and Sleepaway Camp were recommended to me by a friend and movies like Black Christmas, The Beast Must Die and Shocker are among those that I've always wanted to see but for some reason never got around to watching them. Thanks again.
Actually some of those movies that I haven't seen I was planning on seeing anyway. Motel Hell and Sleepaway Camp were recommended to me by a friend and movies like Black Christmas, The Beast Must Die and Shocker are among those that I've always wanted to see but for some reason never got around to watching them. Thanks again.
glenn said on 18/Nov/08
amazing list danimal.i own half of those.other half i heard of.several i never heard of.pin? i dont remember it at all.couldve sworn i didnt like it.gotta dig up the old tape.i love just before dawn! saw it in the theaters as with most films.still need to get alligator.i have part 2.saw original on the screen.i need raw meat.alot on that list i need.raw is usually cheap in price.8$.straw dogs is a great choice.i think i have the special edition.i loved the cube movies.still need to see the saw movies.the first was great.but those 2 series are some the best of the new school.new horror after 1987 usually sucks.
amazing list danimal.i own half of those.other half i heard of.several i never heard of.pin? i dont remember it at all.couldve sworn i didnt like it.gotta dig up the old tape.i love just before dawn! saw it in the theaters as with most films.still need to get alligator.i have part 2.saw original on the screen.i need raw meat.alot on that list i need.raw is usually cheap in price.8$.straw dogs is a great choice.i think i have the special edition.i loved the cube movies.still need to see the saw movies.the first was great.but those 2 series are some the best of the new school.new horror after 1987 usually sucks.
Danimal said on 17/Nov/08
Hey Glenn, what do you think of my horror movie list? Those are a few of the ones I have on DVD.
Hey Glenn, what do you think of my horror movie list? Those are a few of the ones I have on DVD.
RisingForce said on 17/Nov/08
I liked their hair metal albums too. I have a couple of copies of Power Metal at home and I've heard all of the rest of the stuff. I never understood why the band never recognized those albums. They're not bad at all. Dime's solos are great, the vocals sound great and the riffs are catchy.
Thanks for the list Danimal. You're right I haven't seen most of those. I do own a few though(The Fog, Maniac, Silent Night Deadly Night, Prince Of Darkness) so there's a good chance I'll like a lot of them.
I liked their hair metal albums too. I have a couple of copies of Power Metal at home and I've heard all of the rest of the stuff. I never understood why the band never recognized those albums. They're not bad at all. Dime's solos are great, the vocals sound great and the riffs are catchy.
Thanks for the list Danimal. You're right I haven't seen most of those. I do own a few though(The Fog, Maniac, Silent Night Deadly Night, Prince Of Darkness) so there's a good chance I'll like a lot of them.
glenn said on 17/Nov/08
no,i was never a pantera fan.i met the whole band by accident sitting on the steps of a metal club in greenwich village nyc.sans dimebag during cowboys era.and rex a few times 92-94.never saw a member again.i loved all the 80s out of print albums the most.great southern trendkill was their most heaviest,darkest,experimental and underated of the major lable albums.my favorite.and i guess agree,cowboys was hair better to me than vulgar.
no,i was never a pantera fan.i met the whole band by accident sitting on the steps of a metal club in greenwich village nyc.sans dimebag during cowboys era.and rex a few times 92-94.never saw a member again.i loved all the 80s out of print albums the most.great southern trendkill was their most heaviest,darkest,experimental and underated of the major lable albums.my favorite.and i guess agree,cowboys was hair better to me than vulgar.
RisingForce said on 17/Nov/08
Back on the subject of Charles I height I think this 5'7"-5'8" stuff could have been possible.
In The Great Escape(1963) Charles was similar in height to 5'7" Richard Attenborough. Charles was maybe an inch at most taller.
He looked 5'7"-5'8" in The Dirty Dozen(1967) as well.
If he truly was that height then he couldn't have lost much height in later years because he managed to pull off looking 5'9ish even then.
Back on the subject of Charles I height I think this 5'7"-5'8" stuff could have been possible.
In The Great Escape(1963) Charles was similar in height to 5'7" Richard Attenborough. Charles was maybe an inch at most taller.
He looked 5'7"-5'8" in The Dirty Dozen(1967) as well.
If he truly was that height then he couldn't have lost much height in later years because he managed to pull off looking 5'9ish even then.
Danimal said on 16/Nov/08
Some of my fav. horror movies of all time: Basket Case, Mortuary, Re-Animator, Student Bodies, Funerl Home, Mutant, Happy Birthday, Intruder, Island Of Blood, Just Before Dawn, Peeping Tom, Pieces, Silent Night, Bloody Night, The Driller Killer, The Initiation, Visiting Hours, April Fool's Day, Alligator, Boarding House, Christmas Evil, Eyes Without A Face, City Of The Living Dead, Angst, Horror Hotel, Mark Of The Devil, Let's Scare Jessica To Death, It's Alive, Devil Times Five, Demon Seed, Martin, Last House On Dead End Street, Dead And Buried, Bad Taste, Anguish, Pin, The Boogeyman, The Fog, The Sadist, Straw Dogs, Pigs-Daddy's Deadly Darling, The Crazies, Deranged, Salo-120 Days Of Sodom, Blood Beach, Black Christmas, The Entity, The Day After, Threads, Salem's Lot, The People Under The Stairs, Raw Meat, Don't Look In The Basement, Johnny Got His Gun, The Wicker Man, The Toolbox Murders, Mother's Day, The Slumber Party Massacre, Truth or Dare - A Critical Madness, I Spit On Your Grave, Lucker The Necropagous, Nekromantik 1 & 2, Snuff 102, Asylu, From Beyond The Grave, And Now The Screaming Starts, The Beast Must Die, Vault Of Horror, Dead of Night, Trilogy of Terror, Things, The Return of the Living Dead, Silent Night Deadly Night, Guinea Pig 1-6, Shivers, Rabid, Scanners, The Brood, Videodrome, Dead Ringers, The Beyond, The Snuff Reels, Witchboard, Chopping Mall, Prine of Darkness, The Serpent and the Rainbow, Rawhead Rex, Society, Shocker, Sleepaway Camp, Suspiria, The Town That Dreaded Sundown, The Children, Bad Dreams, Pulse, CHUD, Cannibal Ferox, Dolls, Devil Dog, Equinox, Fright, American Gothic, Incubus, Inferno, Motell Hell, Monkey Shines, Near Dark, Night of the Werewolf, Hell Night, Nightbreed, Hellraiser, Piranha, Don't Look Now, Maniac, Maniac Cop..............
Some of my fav. horror movies of all time: Basket Case, Mortuary, Re-Animator, Student Bodies, Funerl Home, Mutant, Happy Birthday, Intruder, Island Of Blood, Just Before Dawn, Peeping Tom, Pieces, Silent Night, Bloody Night, The Driller Killer, The Initiation, Visiting Hours, April Fool's Day, Alligator, Boarding House, Christmas Evil, Eyes Without A Face, City Of The Living Dead, Angst, Horror Hotel, Mark Of The Devil, Let's Scare Jessica To Death, It's Alive, Devil Times Five, Demon Seed, Martin, Last House On Dead End Street, Dead And Buried, Bad Taste, Anguish, Pin, The Boogeyman, The Fog, The Sadist, Straw Dogs, Pigs-Daddy's Deadly Darling, The Crazies, Deranged, Salo-120 Days Of Sodom, Blood Beach, Black Christmas, The Entity, The Day After, Threads, Salem's Lot, The People Under The Stairs, Raw Meat, Don't Look In The Basement, Johnny Got His Gun, The Wicker Man, The Toolbox Murders, Mother's Day, The Slumber Party Massacre, Truth or Dare - A Critical Madness, I Spit On Your Grave, Lucker The Necropagous, Nekromantik 1 & 2, Snuff 102, Asylu, From Beyond The Grave, And Now The Screaming Starts, The Beast Must Die, Vault Of Horror, Dead of Night, Trilogy of Terror, Things, The Return of the Living Dead, Silent Night Deadly Night, Guinea Pig 1-6, Shivers, Rabid, Scanners, The Brood, Videodrome, Dead Ringers, The Beyond, The Snuff Reels, Witchboard, Chopping Mall, Prine of Darkness, The Serpent and the Rainbow, Rawhead Rex, Society, Shocker, Sleepaway Camp, Suspiria, The Town That Dreaded Sundown, The Children, Bad Dreams, Pulse, CHUD, Cannibal Ferox, Dolls, Devil Dog, Equinox, Fright, American Gothic, Incubus, Inferno, Motell Hell, Monkey Shines, Near Dark, Night of the Werewolf, Hell Night, Nightbreed, Hellraiser, Piranha, Don't Look Now, Maniac, Maniac Cop..............
Kettla said on 16/Nov/08
Sorry to get back to you all a bit late I have been on assignment in Russia.For those of you who are interested I have four biographies about Charlie. Plus I also have other books such as Jill Ireland's two autobiographies, Donald Zec's biography of Lee Marvin, and Michael Winner's autobiography which all feature or mention Bronson.
On page 149 of the Zec book (sorry I earlier said this was Winner's story by mistake) he writes that during the making of the Dirty Dozen. Marvin fails to turn up for a shoot and is found in a bar in London's Belgravia and driven to the set, singing and telling jokes. He falls out of the car. Bronson has been waiting for hours.
Bronson is mad and yells "I'm going to f***** kill you Lee". The director then pleads " Please don't hit him Charlie."
Sorry to get back to you all a bit late I have been on assignment in Russia.For those of you who are interested I have four biographies about Charlie. Plus I also have other books such as Jill Ireland's two autobiographies, Donald Zec's biography of Lee Marvin, and Michael Winner's autobiography which all feature or mention Bronson.
On page 149 of the Zec book (sorry I earlier said this was Winner's story by mistake) he writes that during the making of the Dirty Dozen. Marvin fails to turn up for a shoot and is found in a bar in London's Belgravia and driven to the set, singing and telling jokes. He falls out of the car. Bronson has been waiting for hours.
Bronson is mad and yells "I'm going to f***** kill you Lee". The director then pleads " Please don't hit him Charlie."
RisingForce said on 16/Nov/08
I agree with your thoughts on And Justice For All and I can see why you like Kill 'Em All. Sometimes I like raw early 80's metal too. That's why I often still listen to NWOBHM bands. Just in Metallica's case I don't think that's when they were at their best, just my opinion though.
Glenn I remember you telling a story about trying to meet Dimebag in '04, are you a Pantera fan? If so what's your favorite album. Most people say Vulgar Display of Power but I think Cowboys is better. More of a thrash sound, better riffs and solos in my opinion, much better vocals and more diverse. I still love Vulgar' but Cowboys' is their best in my opinion. Phila ctually had quite a big vocal range on Power Metal and Cowboys'. He could hit some pretty high notes.
I agree with your thoughts on And Justice For All and I can see why you like Kill 'Em All. Sometimes I like raw early 80's metal too. That's why I often still listen to NWOBHM bands. Just in Metallica's case I don't think that's when they were at their best, just my opinion though.
Glenn I remember you telling a story about trying to meet Dimebag in '04, are you a Pantera fan? If so what's your favorite album. Most people say Vulgar Display of Power but I think Cowboys is better. More of a thrash sound, better riffs and solos in my opinion, much better vocals and more diverse. I still love Vulgar' but Cowboys' is their best in my opinion. Phila ctually had quite a big vocal range on Power Metal and Cowboys'. He could hit some pretty high notes.
glenn said on 15/Nov/08
i dont love those shrapnel albums like that.lol.been maybe 10 years since i listened to that stuff.an occasional joey tafolla or chastain on cd,even thats rare.most of that stuff i have on vinyl.i have too much to listen to to still listen to a certain genre or style of metal daily.of course i have all those becker cds that came out in the last 10 years too.the 2 or 3 of them.kill em all had the best riffs for me,best bass,dirty 80s sound to it,ala fates melissa or maiden killers.that true grit,muddy sound.any sound is important for all those future albums.otherwise it would get boring.as great as justice was,it was too polished,lacked bass,cold,sterile,drum machine.though ride had drum machine too.but i guess i wouldnt want justice any other way.though i am curious of what it would sound like remixed.full of bass.iggy pop did that with raw power and it was too much treble and bass,as opposed to no bass,with the original mix.still great to have both mixes.
i dont love those shrapnel albums like that.lol.been maybe 10 years since i listened to that stuff.an occasional joey tafolla or chastain on cd,even thats rare.most of that stuff i have on vinyl.i have too much to listen to to still listen to a certain genre or style of metal daily.of course i have all those becker cds that came out in the last 10 years too.the 2 or 3 of them.kill em all had the best riffs for me,best bass,dirty 80s sound to it,ala fates melissa or maiden killers.that true grit,muddy sound.any sound is important for all those future albums.otherwise it would get boring.as great as justice was,it was too polished,lacked bass,cold,sterile,drum machine.though ride had drum machine too.but i guess i wouldnt want justice any other way.though i am curious of what it would sound like remixed.full of bass.iggy pop did that with raw power and it was too much treble and bass,as opposed to no bass,with the original mix.still great to have both mixes.
RisingForce said on 14/Nov/08
I agree Virtual XI(I think) was clearly the worst but I actually liked X Factor with Blaze.
I actually find Kill 'Em All the worst of their thrash albums, I mean it was very important and without it thrash wouldn't be what it is but as far as the quality of the music I find the next few better. The next few were heavier, had much better playing, better vocals and some interesting changes between soft and heavy parts. Kill 'Em All would have been better if James' voice was as good as the next few albums and Kirk's playing wasn't so sloppy on that album. Still good though and I can listen to it once in a while. The No Life 'Til Leather and Megaforce demos are interesting. Strange hearing those songs with Dave.
Becker's Perpetual Burn and MacAlpine's Maximum Security are my two favorite full instrumental albums. I still love that stuff and listen to atleast one shred album almost daily.
I agree Virtual XI(I think) was clearly the worst but I actually liked X Factor with Blaze.
I actually find Kill 'Em All the worst of their thrash albums, I mean it was very important and without it thrash wouldn't be what it is but as far as the quality of the music I find the next few better. The next few were heavier, had much better playing, better vocals and some interesting changes between soft and heavy parts. Kill 'Em All would have been better if James' voice was as good as the next few albums and Kirk's playing wasn't so sloppy on that album. Still good though and I can listen to it once in a while. The No Life 'Til Leather and Megaforce demos are interesting. Strange hearing those songs with Dave.
Becker's Perpetual Burn and MacAlpine's Maximum Security are my two favorite full instrumental albums. I still love that stuff and listen to atleast one shred album almost daily.
glenn said on 14/Nov/08
risingforce -with the uli era the songs were just so much better.im into more complex,spacey stuff.it was more colorful.i love and own all that shred stuff too.bought the becker and all the shrapnel back in 1988.for me,and most i know,metallica slowly got worse with each album.even though the first 4 were brilliant,ride wasnt as good as kill em,and master wasnt as good as ride.you get the idea.despite having a few good songs each,no prayer,virtual,and whatever the last one was called,all sucked.virtual being the worse.
risingforce -with the uli era the songs were just so much better.im into more complex,spacey stuff.it was more colorful.i love and own all that shred stuff too.bought the becker and all the shrapnel back in 1988.for me,and most i know,metallica slowly got worse with each album.even though the first 4 were brilliant,ride wasnt as good as kill em,and master wasnt as good as ride.you get the idea.despite having a few good songs each,no prayer,virtual,and whatever the last one was called,all sucked.virtual being the worse.
RisingForce said on 13/Nov/08
I can't really choose which Scorpions era I like best, Uli was my favorite guitar player of them though as far as Scorpions work(I thought Schenkers work in MSG and UFO was much better than the little Scorpions stuff he did which was good but not his best). With Uli you can hear the progression of neo classical music. First it was Blackmore then Schenker and Uli then Rhoads then finally Malmsteen. Uli I think took it to a whole new level, Blackmore would ocassionally play some neo classical type stuff in solos(Child In Time, Burn, Kill The King) but I didn't hear a composition quite like Sails Of Charon where it literally sounded like a classical piece.
Rage For Order is a great album. I loved all fo the synths on that album and the music was probably more interesting than any other Queensryche album. Walk In The Shadows, Killing Words, The Whisper, I Dream In Infrared and I Will Remember are some of their best songs. Every song sounded different on that album than anything else I've heard. I personally like Mindcrime better(the songwriting is better in my opinion and the concept is cool) but Rage For Order is one of my all time favorite albums. Thanks for reminding me, I'll have to listen to it again.
As for Zeppelin I half agree, I think Physical Graffiti is their best but I don't think 2 stands out as better than 4. Maybe I've just heard 2 and 4 too much but right now Physical Graffiti seems head and shoulders above either to me.
As far as Metallica it annoys me too when I hear people go on about the singles. I think Ride The Lightning is easily their best. I think Fight Fire With Fire, Ride The Lightning and Creeping Death beats just about anything they've done. I thought that album had the aggressiveness of Kill 'Em All and the heaviness of Master Of Puppets. Kirk's lead playing has never sounded that good either(I usually don't like his solos but I liked many on that album).
For me at this point I don't really care if songs are complex or not. I use to be kind of stuck up about that because I was always playing and listening to the shred stuff(MacAlpine, Moore, Becker, Gilbert ect.) and for a while it was almost like everything I listened to had to be complex or fast. I'd sometimes look down at simpler stuff. I'm also a guitar player myself and it took some of the enjoyment out of listening to music because whenever I'd hear something that I didn't think I could play I'd have to pick up my guitar and work on it which gets frusturating. It makes music not relaxing but like work at times. Since to work up the more complex stuff to speed I'd have to slow it down play it with or without distortion, play for hours with a metronome ect. So for me simple stuff sometimes I like even better. Even though I could play ACDC stuff at 11 or 12 yrs old it still sounds great. I still love progressive stuff but now atleast at times I can listen to music without thinking about if it's complex or if I can currently play it or not.
Back In Black is one the exceptions where it's actually as good as critics and mainstream fans say it is. I still listen to it once in a while. Not really any weak songs on it.
There's also a typo in my list, I meant to say everything Bruce did with Maiden except for No Prayer For The Dying which I didn't really like.
I agree about the Burning, it was a clear ripoff, even down to the setting, the plot ect. but I just found the movie really entertaining and still do. It's a nice change since it isn't played on TV much.
I can't really choose which Scorpions era I like best, Uli was my favorite guitar player of them though as far as Scorpions work(I thought Schenkers work in MSG and UFO was much better than the little Scorpions stuff he did which was good but not his best). With Uli you can hear the progression of neo classical music. First it was Blackmore then Schenker and Uli then Rhoads then finally Malmsteen. Uli I think took it to a whole new level, Blackmore would ocassionally play some neo classical type stuff in solos(Child In Time, Burn, Kill The King) but I didn't hear a composition quite like Sails Of Charon where it literally sounded like a classical piece.
Rage For Order is a great album. I loved all fo the synths on that album and the music was probably more interesting than any other Queensryche album. Walk In The Shadows, Killing Words, The Whisper, I Dream In Infrared and I Will Remember are some of their best songs. Every song sounded different on that album than anything else I've heard. I personally like Mindcrime better(the songwriting is better in my opinion and the concept is cool) but Rage For Order is one of my all time favorite albums. Thanks for reminding me, I'll have to listen to it again.
As for Zeppelin I half agree, I think Physical Graffiti is their best but I don't think 2 stands out as better than 4. Maybe I've just heard 2 and 4 too much but right now Physical Graffiti seems head and shoulders above either to me.
As far as Metallica it annoys me too when I hear people go on about the singles. I think Ride The Lightning is easily their best. I think Fight Fire With Fire, Ride The Lightning and Creeping Death beats just about anything they've done. I thought that album had the aggressiveness of Kill 'Em All and the heaviness of Master Of Puppets. Kirk's lead playing has never sounded that good either(I usually don't like his solos but I liked many on that album).
For me at this point I don't really care if songs are complex or not. I use to be kind of stuck up about that because I was always playing and listening to the shred stuff(MacAlpine, Moore, Becker, Gilbert ect.) and for a while it was almost like everything I listened to had to be complex or fast. I'd sometimes look down at simpler stuff. I'm also a guitar player myself and it took some of the enjoyment out of listening to music because whenever I'd hear something that I didn't think I could play I'd have to pick up my guitar and work on it which gets frusturating. It makes music not relaxing but like work at times. Since to work up the more complex stuff to speed I'd have to slow it down play it with or without distortion, play for hours with a metronome ect. So for me simple stuff sometimes I like even better. Even though I could play ACDC stuff at 11 or 12 yrs old it still sounds great. I still love progressive stuff but now atleast at times I can listen to music without thinking about if it's complex or if I can currently play it or not.
Back In Black is one the exceptions where it's actually as good as critics and mainstream fans say it is. I still listen to it once in a while. Not really any weak songs on it.
There's also a typo in my list, I meant to say everything Bruce did with Maiden except for No Prayer For The Dying which I didn't really like.
I agree about the Burning, it was a clear ripoff, even down to the setting, the plot ect. but I just found the movie really entertaining and still do. It's a nice change since it isn't played on TV much.
glenn said on 13/Nov/08
risingforce-i agree with most of your list.i forgot to add scorpions.uli era the best.i cant hear mindcrime ever again for me.it was too played out.and to me slightly overated.rage for order was their last great album for me.its like led zep 4.my god,i can never listen to that again,and how overated it is.graffiti and 2 are far more superior.its just radio has the masses transfixed a certain way and brainwashed to love certain things.enter sandman? one? ill puke.what are people thinking?.hits and singles are usually the worse songs on a album that are formulated and released for the millions who cant digest more complex songs.the back in black album is one of the extremely rare few that still holds up and i can hear on occasion.i havnt played it myself personally since 2000.but i hear things too much in peoples houses or cars that can kill a album for me.
risingforce-i agree with most of your list.i forgot to add scorpions.uli era the best.i cant hear mindcrime ever again for me.it was too played out.and to me slightly overated.rage for order was their last great album for me.its like led zep 4.my god,i can never listen to that again,and how overated it is.graffiti and 2 are far more superior.its just radio has the masses transfixed a certain way and brainwashed to love certain things.enter sandman? one? ill puke.what are people thinking?.hits and singles are usually the worse songs on a album that are formulated and released for the millions who cant digest more complex songs.the back in black album is one of the extremely rare few that still holds up and i can hear on occasion.i havnt played it myself personally since 2000.but i hear things too much in peoples houses or cars that can kill a album for me.
glenn said on 13/Nov/08
i get your point leonari.true that.
i get your point leonari.true that.
RisingForce said on 13/Nov/08
That'd be great Danimal. What would you suggest?
That'd be great Danimal. What would you suggest?
RisingForce said on 13/Nov/08
This will take a while. Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is the greatest metal album of all time with Iron Maiden's Seventh Son, Rainbow's Rising close behind. Also making my list would be Ozzy's first 6 albums, all of his Sabbath albums except for Never Say Die, All of Dio's solo albums, Rainbow albums and Sabbath albums except for Angry Machines. Dokken's first 4 albums, everything the Scorpions realized from 1974-1990, everything Priest did from 1976-1990 with Painkiller and Defenders highest, everything Maiden did with the Bruce albums highest except for Fear Of The Dark(X Factor with Blaze was underrated). ACDC albums up to Back In Black, First 3 Bon Jozi albums, First 3 or 4 Ratt albums, Motley Crue- Shout At The Devil, Macalpine, Aldridge, Rock Sars- Project Driver, Jason Becker Perpetual Burn, 2 Cacophony albums, Racer X Street Lethal, Tony MacAlpine Maximum Security, Rob Rock Rage Of Creation, Badlands, Lynch Mob, Every Rainbow album, All Deep Purple albums except for Stormbringer and the one with Tommy Bolin, First Metal Church album, Viviouc Rumors, Death Scream Bloody Gore, Aerosmith Toys and Pump, Journey Escape, Frontiers, Alice Cooper, Trash, Raise Your Fist And Yell, Hey Stoopid, School's Out, Welcome To My Nightmare, Helloween Keeper Of The Seven Keys 1 and 2, Guns N Roses Appetite and the Use Your Illusions. Everything Queensryche did from 1983-1990, Dream Theater Images and Awake, Fates Warning Awaken The Guardian, No Exit, Parallels, Bonfire, Fireworks, Don't Touch The Light and Point Blank. If I named every metal album I listen to often I'd be here all day.
This will take a while. Queensryche Operation Mindcrime is the greatest metal album of all time with Iron Maiden's Seventh Son, Rainbow's Rising close behind. Also making my list would be Ozzy's first 6 albums, all of his Sabbath albums except for Never Say Die, All of Dio's solo albums, Rainbow albums and Sabbath albums except for Angry Machines. Dokken's first 4 albums, everything the Scorpions realized from 1974-1990, everything Priest did from 1976-1990 with Painkiller and Defenders highest, everything Maiden did with the Bruce albums highest except for Fear Of The Dark(X Factor with Blaze was underrated). ACDC albums up to Back In Black, First 3 Bon Jozi albums, First 3 or 4 Ratt albums, Motley Crue- Shout At The Devil, Macalpine, Aldridge, Rock Sars- Project Driver, Jason Becker Perpetual Burn, 2 Cacophony albums, Racer X Street Lethal, Tony MacAlpine Maximum Security, Rob Rock Rage Of Creation, Badlands, Lynch Mob, Every Rainbow album, All Deep Purple albums except for Stormbringer and the one with Tommy Bolin, First Metal Church album, Viviouc Rumors, Death Scream Bloody Gore, Aerosmith Toys and Pump, Journey Escape, Frontiers, Alice Cooper, Trash, Raise Your Fist And Yell, Hey Stoopid, School's Out, Welcome To My Nightmare, Helloween Keeper Of The Seven Keys 1 and 2, Guns N Roses Appetite and the Use Your Illusions. Everything Queensryche did from 1983-1990, Dream Theater Images and Awake, Fates Warning Awaken The Guardian, No Exit, Parallels, Bonfire, Fireworks, Don't Touch The Light and Point Blank. If I named every metal album I listen to often I'd be here all day.
glenn said on 13/Nov/08
risingforce-i like everything you listed movie and music wise.to me,and alot of old timers,iron maiden killers is the greatest metal album of all time.mercyful fate melissa would be next.followed by no particular order-deep purple in rock,rainbow rising,celtic frost into the pandemonium,mr.bungle,black sabbath sabotage,master of reality,vol 4.,dio holy diver,anthrax fistful of metal,metallica kill em all,ratt invasion,dancing.crue shout and too fast,malmsteens rising force,first 3 ozzys,zep 1,2,grafitti,presence,vh 1,fair warning,diver down,1984.aerosmith wings,rocks,toys,hard place,mirrors.acdc powerage,let there,highway,back,about to,flick.maiden' debut,piece of mind,powerslave.motorhead overkill,bomber,ironfist,another perfect day.priest rocka,wings,hellbent,class,steel,faith,painkiller.bryan adams reckless,waking(yes,all hard rock is just a cheap name for metal,adams is pop metal),jovi debut,new jersey,journeys first 3 lps without steve perry,all the steve perry lps.venom first 4 lps.hellhammer.first 4 samael lps.kiss all lps up until asylum.carnival of souls and psycho which everyone hated were great to me.quiet riot metal health,down to the bone.first 3 metal church,first 3 helloween,satyricon rebel extravaganza,first 3 dokken,first 4 flotsam and jetsam.first 3 meshuggah,of course i could go on and on...lol. and you?
risingforce-i like everything you listed movie and music wise.to me,and alot of old timers,iron maiden killers is the greatest metal album of all time.mercyful fate melissa would be next.followed by no particular order-deep purple in rock,rainbow rising,celtic frost into the pandemonium,mr.bungle,black sabbath sabotage,master of reality,vol 4.,dio holy diver,anthrax fistful of metal,metallica kill em all,ratt invasion,dancing.crue shout and too fast,malmsteens rising force,first 3 ozzys,zep 1,2,grafitti,presence,vh 1,fair warning,diver down,1984.aerosmith wings,rocks,toys,hard place,mirrors.acdc powerage,let there,highway,back,about to,flick.maiden' debut,piece of mind,powerslave.motorhead overkill,bomber,ironfist,another perfect day.priest rocka,wings,hellbent,class,steel,faith,painkiller.bryan adams reckless,waking(yes,all hard rock is just a cheap name for metal,adams is pop metal),jovi debut,new jersey,journeys first 3 lps without steve perry,all the steve perry lps.venom first 4 lps.hellhammer.first 4 samael lps.kiss all lps up until asylum.carnival of souls and psycho which everyone hated were great to me.quiet riot metal health,down to the bone.first 3 metal church,first 3 helloween,satyricon rebel extravaganza,first 3 dokken,first 4 flotsam and jetsam.first 3 meshuggah,of course i could go on and on...lol. and you?
Danimal said on 12/Nov/08
RisingForce says on 12/Nov/08
I'm a huge horror fan, especially early 80's. I agree that 80's movies were the best, the most entertaining at least...in most genres. I loved some of the more well known horror films like Halloween 1, 2 and 4 but also some more underrated stuff like the Burning. In general I liked mostly the slasher stuff but also a lot of Zombie movies and some supernatural occult stuff(not as much in the 80's).
Which was a ripoff of Friday the 13th which came out the year before. You want a sick list of underrated horror movies. Just ask me and I'll provide you with one the likes you have NEVER seen.
RisingForce says on 12/Nov/08
I'm a huge horror fan, especially early 80's. I agree that 80's movies were the best, the most entertaining at least...in most genres. I loved some of the more well known horror films like Halloween 1, 2 and 4 but also some more underrated stuff like the Burning. In general I liked mostly the slasher stuff but also a lot of Zombie movies and some supernatural occult stuff(not as much in the 80's).
Which was a ripoff of Friday the 13th which came out the year before. You want a sick list of underrated horror movies. Just ask me and I'll provide you with one the likes you have NEVER seen.
leonari said on 12/Nov/08
I am a kid of the 80ies as well being born in '77. This was an amazing time in the entertainment industry. 70's were more artistic. Since mid/late 90's it's going downhill...and fast. The crap they put out nowadays is a shame. The latest Bond for example is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Total crap!
I am a kid of the 80ies as well being born in '77. This was an amazing time in the entertainment industry. 70's were more artistic. Since mid/late 90's it's going downhill...and fast. The crap they put out nowadays is a shame. The latest Bond for example is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Total crap!
RisingForce said on 12/Nov/08
I'm a huge horror fan, especially early 80's. I agree that 80's movies were the best, the most entertaining at least...in most genres. I loved some of the more well known horror films like Halloween 1, 2 and 4 but also some more underrated stuff like the Burning. In general I liked mostly the slasher stuff but also a lot of Zombie movies and some supernatural occult stuff(not as much in the 80's).
Almost all of my favorite movies came out in the 80's. Scarface, Escape From New York, Raging Bull, The Thing, The Terminator, First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part 2, Halloween 2, Halloween 4, A Nightmare On Elm Street, Death Wish 2 and 3, Predator, Rocky 3 and 4, Mad Max 2: Road Warrior, The first 4 Friday the 13th movies, Maniac...if I named all the movies I like and own from that era it would take all day.
As far as music, I still love 80's hard rock/heavy metal. In fact there's nothing I like more. I own everything Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Dio, The Scorpions, Testament, Metallica, Dokken, Ratt, Yngwie Malmsteen, Van Halen, Black Sabbath ect. released that decade. I also have multiple albums Motorhead, Def Leppard, Megadeth the 80's shredder Shrapnel guys(Moore, MacAlpine, Gilbert, Becker), Fifth Angel, Helloween, Bonfire, Fates Warning and a lot of early 90's stuff or late 70's stuff as well.
Metal above everything is by far my favorite thing. Even if it's some of the better death metal like Death, thrash metal like Testament, mainstream stuff like Ratt, Bon Jovi or Def Leppard, classic stuff like Dio, Queensryche, power metal...prog metal ect. I like all kinds of metal.
What are your favorite 80's hard rock/metal albums?
I'm a huge horror fan, especially early 80's. I agree that 80's movies were the best, the most entertaining at least...in most genres. I loved some of the more well known horror films like Halloween 1, 2 and 4 but also some more underrated stuff like the Burning. In general I liked mostly the slasher stuff but also a lot of Zombie movies and some supernatural occult stuff(not as much in the 80's).
Almost all of my favorite movies came out in the 80's. Scarface, Escape From New York, Raging Bull, The Thing, The Terminator, First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part 2, Halloween 2, Halloween 4, A Nightmare On Elm Street, Death Wish 2 and 3, Predator, Rocky 3 and 4, Mad Max 2: Road Warrior, The first 4 Friday the 13th movies, Maniac...if I named all the movies I like and own from that era it would take all day.
As far as music, I still love 80's hard rock/heavy metal. In fact there's nothing I like more. I own everything Iron Maiden, Queensryche, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Dio, The Scorpions, Testament, Metallica, Dokken, Ratt, Yngwie Malmsteen, Van Halen, Black Sabbath ect. released that decade. I also have multiple albums Motorhead, Def Leppard, Megadeth the 80's shredder Shrapnel guys(Moore, MacAlpine, Gilbert, Becker), Fifth Angel, Helloween, Bonfire, Fates Warning and a lot of early 90's stuff or late 70's stuff as well.
Metal above everything is by far my favorite thing. Even if it's some of the better death metal like Death, thrash metal like Testament, mainstream stuff like Ratt, Bon Jovi or Def Leppard, classic stuff like Dio, Queensryche, power metal...prog metal ect. I like all kinds of metal.
What are your favorite 80's hard rock/metal albums?
glenn said on 12/Nov/08
i loved all the 80s bronson films cause that when i grew up.80s films in general.though music and horror movie strangely got cheesy between 1986-1988,89.of course some amazing horror movies,the best ever for me,came out in 1986,87.
i loved all the 80s bronson films cause that when i grew up.80s films in general.though music and horror movie strangely got cheesy between 1986-1988,89.of course some amazing horror movies,the best ever for me,came out in 1986,87.
RisingForce said on 11/Nov/08
Yeah but still good movies and very entertaining too. Believe it or not I actually liked most of his 80's movies, even some of the cheaper ones. I didn't like Death Wish 4 or 5 much though. The Evil That Men Do had a more interesting plot than 10 to midnight I thought but both were equally enjoyable.
His height is really a mystery, 5'9" max though since Telly Savalas was clearly taller and both were wearing the same boots. Very clear shots too. There could be something to this 5'7" stuff.
Yeah but still good movies and very entertaining too. Believe it or not I actually liked most of his 80's movies, even some of the cheaper ones. I didn't like Death Wish 4 or 5 much though. The Evil That Men Do had a more interesting plot than 10 to midnight I thought but both were equally enjoyable.
His height is really a mystery, 5'9" max though since Telly Savalas was clearly taller and both were wearing the same boots. Very clear shots too. There could be something to this 5'7" stuff.
glenn said on 11/Nov/08
the evil that men do,ten to midnight,death wish 2.not the greatest films by any means,but the darkest 3 i could think of and loved.
the evil that men do,ten to midnight,death wish 2.not the greatest films by any means,but the darkest 3 i could think of and loved.
RisingForce said on 11/Nov/08
Glenn what are your favorite Bronson movies? My top 3 are Death Wish, The Dirty Dozen and The Great Escape. Death Wish 2 and 3 are right up there too and I liked Murphy's Law as well as a few other 80's Bronson movies.
Glenn what are your favorite Bronson movies? My top 3 are Death Wish, The Dirty Dozen and The Great Escape. Death Wish 2 and 3 are right up there too and I liked Murphy's Law as well as a few other 80's Bronson movies.
RisingForce said on 8/Nov/08
I agree. In The Dirty Dozen he stands near Lee Marvin a lot and at first appears atleast 6" shorter but later appears only 4" shorter and later in the film he did appear to have bigger heels on his shoes.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was 5'9" peak but I can now see where the 5'7" stuff comes from. I think for peak height that 5'7" is too low because that'd mean he was probably under that in later films and that isn't realistic.
Maybe he was 5'8" peak and 5'7" in later films. Some people also don't really lose much height anyway so 5'7" or 5'7.5" is possible if he didn't really lose anything during his career.
I agree. In The Dirty Dozen he stands near Lee Marvin a lot and at first appears atleast 6" shorter but later appears only 4" shorter and later in the film he did appear to have bigger heels on his shoes.
It wouldn't surprise me if he was 5'9" peak but I can now see where the 5'7" stuff comes from. I think for peak height that 5'7" is too low because that'd mean he was probably under that in later films and that isn't realistic.
Maybe he was 5'8" peak and 5'7" in later films. Some people also don't really lose much height anyway so 5'7" or 5'7.5" is possible if he didn't really lose anything during his career.
dan said on 8/Nov/08
he stood beside richard jakael in 3 different films, the dirty dozen, when hell broke loose and luke and the tenderfoot a tv episode, and he was the same height. richard jakael is 5"7 so where do you go from there, he definately is no taller than 5"9,
he stood beside richard jakael in 3 different films, the dirty dozen, when hell broke loose and luke and the tenderfoot a tv episode, and he was the same height. richard jakael is 5"7 so where do you go from there, he definately is no taller than 5"9,
RisingForce said on 8/Nov/08
In The Dirty Dozen Charles is lined up right next to 5'10" Telly Savalas and actually looks atleast 2, possibly 2 inches shorter. Both are standing straight and wearing what seem to be the same boots.
In The Dirty Dozen Charles is lined up right next to 5'10" Telly Savalas and actually looks atleast 2, possibly 2 inches shorter. Both are standing straight and wearing what seem to be the same boots.
RisingForce said on 6/Nov/08
Very interesting Kettla I've never heard that before and I'm a huge Bronson fan.
To be honest at this point there are tons of 5'7" sightings so I wouldn't be surprised if he was 5'7.5" or 5'10". I think 5'7" flat is too low for his peak height because then he would ahve been under that in the later Death Wish movies and that doesn't seem accurate.
I guess if he didn't lose any height during his film career then he could have been 5'7" but considering he was 73 in Death Wish 5 that's not likely. I think it's safe to say that we can rule out 5'6" and 5'11". I still think 5'9" peak fits and 5'8"/5'8.5" during his later films.
Very interesting Kettla I've never heard that before and I'm a huge Bronson fan.
To be honest at this point there are tons of 5'7" sightings so I wouldn't be surprised if he was 5'7.5" or 5'10". I think 5'7" flat is too low for his peak height because then he would ahve been under that in the later Death Wish movies and that doesn't seem accurate.
I guess if he didn't lose any height during his film career then he could have been 5'7" but considering he was 73 in Death Wish 5 that's not likely. I think it's safe to say that we can rule out 5'6" and 5'11". I still think 5'9" peak fits and 5'8"/5'8.5" during his later films.
glenn said on 6/Nov/08
now you have me wanting to buy this book kettla.whats its called?
now you have me wanting to buy this book kettla.whats its called?
Kettla said on 5/Nov/08
Its interesting that in Michael Winner's autobiography he never once refers to Bronson's height. Indeed his only physical reference about Bronson is that he rarely seemed to eat and did exercises between takes. He does point out though that Bronson who was a very committed professional and always punctual with his lines learned However Bronson was furious with Lee Marvin for failing to turn up or turning up drunk after going on benders. On one occasion apparently Bronson had to be restrained from attacking Marvin because of this. Interesting that considering Lee was a former decorated marine and a good deal taller. But then look at Audie Murphy... they don't come much tougher than that compact package.
Its interesting that in Michael Winner's autobiography he never once refers to Bronson's height. Indeed his only physical reference about Bronson is that he rarely seemed to eat and did exercises between takes. He does point out though that Bronson who was a very committed professional and always punctual with his lines learned However Bronson was furious with Lee Marvin for failing to turn up or turning up drunk after going on benders. On one occasion apparently Bronson had to be restrained from attacking Marvin because of this. Interesting that considering Lee was a former decorated marine and a good deal taller. But then look at Audie Murphy... they don't come much tougher than that compact package.
RisingForce said on 5/Nov/08
I agree. I really have no idea where this 5'7" stuff comes from. I'm not sure why he was downgraded, there were just as many 5'7" sightings for Steve McQueen but he's listed 5'10" here.
I agree. I really have no idea where this 5'7" stuff comes from. I'm not sure why he was downgraded, there were just as many 5'7" sightings for Steve McQueen but he's listed 5'10" here.
glenn said on 5/Nov/08
he always looked average.
he always looked average.
RisingForce said on 4/Nov/08
One thing I've noticed is that Charles never really looks short. If he was 5'7" then with 2" shoes/lifts he'd be 5'9" and apper only like a legit 5'8" guy and 5'8" guys look shorter than that in movies(Tom Cruise). Charles was atleast 5-8 in the 90's and around 5-9 peak.
One thing I've noticed is that Charles never really looks short. If he was 5'7" then with 2" shoes/lifts he'd be 5'9" and apper only like a legit 5'8" guy and 5'8" guys look shorter than that in movies(Tom Cruise). Charles was atleast 5-8 in the 90's and around 5-9 peak.
glenn said on 4/Nov/08
i have that movie somewhere.great eye and interesting find.i must find my copy.
i have that movie somewhere.great eye and interesting find.i must find my copy.
RisingForce said on 3/Nov/08
I just watched Murphy's Law and in it you can see his ankles. It appears he wore lifts for that film. His shoes had a fairly large heel of about 1.5", meaning with lifts he was gaining about 2" over his barefoot height with the lift, maybe 2.5" at best. Bronson never wore the same type of shoes that many of the known lift wearers today wear. I doubt he got much more than 2" over his barefoot height.
I just watched Murphy's Law and in it you can see his ankles. It appears he wore lifts for that film. His shoes had a fairly large heel of about 1.5", meaning with lifts he was gaining about 2" over his barefoot height with the lift, maybe 2.5" at best. Bronson never wore the same type of shoes that many of the known lift wearers today wear. I doubt he got much more than 2" over his barefoot height.
RisingForce said on 31/Oct/08
I still don't see any real evidence on Bronson being 5-7 either. Bronson always looked 5-9 or 5-10ish in his prime and still 5-8.5/5-9 when he was older. In all of the time I've watched Charles Bronson movies I never once thought Bronson was 5-7, 5-8.
Mel Gibson is another who was pegged at 5-7 and 5-8.
I still don't see any real evidence on Bronson being 5-7 either. Bronson always looked 5-9 or 5-10ish in his prime and still 5-8.5/5-9 when he was older. In all of the time I've watched Charles Bronson movies I never once thought Bronson was 5-7, 5-8.
Mel Gibson is another who was pegged at 5-7 and 5-8.
glenn said on 30/Oct/08
true on all risingforce.5-10ish men are always pegged at 5-7,5-8.
true on all risingforce.5-10ish men are always pegged at 5-7,5-8.
RisingForce said on 30/Oct/08
Yeah but then again Stallone got some 5'7" sightings and to be 5'7" he'd have to have 3.5 or 4" lifts in his slippers, barefeet or sandals! Men in the 5'9"-5'11" rage can appear very average in person which is contrary to how big they look on screen. People mistake that for looking short.
The mugshot really ends all of the 5'7" stuff for McQueen. Assuming that was taken in the afternoon or night then he was 5'10.5" out of bed.
Too bad Bronson's mugshot was only from a movie, in movies they can place the chart where they want or the actor could wear shoes that give 3".
Either way I truly think Charles was 5'9"-5'10" peak until I see some actual evidence that he was shorter. Like Stallone or McQueen nobody has posted evidence to back that 5-7 figure up. Paul Newman was another 5-10ish guy who got 5-7 sightings.
Yeah but then again Stallone got some 5'7" sightings and to be 5'7" he'd have to have 3.5 or 4" lifts in his slippers, barefeet or sandals! Men in the 5'9"-5'11" rage can appear very average in person which is contrary to how big they look on screen. People mistake that for looking short.
The mugshot really ends all of the 5'7" stuff for McQueen. Assuming that was taken in the afternoon or night then he was 5'10.5" out of bed.
Too bad Bronson's mugshot was only from a movie, in movies they can place the chart where they want or the actor could wear shoes that give 3".
Either way I truly think Charles was 5'9"-5'10" peak until I see some actual evidence that he was shorter. Like Stallone or McQueen nobody has posted evidence to back that 5-7 figure up. Paul Newman was another 5-10ish guy who got 5-7 sightings.
glenn said on 30/Oct/08
i agree on mcqueen but people also swear on 5-7 for him too.
i agree on mcqueen but people also swear on 5-7 for him too.
RisingForce said on 29/Oct/08
Yeah 5'7" seems really low, he must have lost height by the 90's meaning he'd be what 5'6' then? What would that make Sean Penn, 5'5" or 5.5"? Penn is 5'7" minimum and probably 5'8" in reality.
5'9,5" or 5'10" peak and 5'8.5" or 5'9" in his later films unless he wore lifts in that picture with Sean Penn. It's not like Penn hasn't been suspected of lifts though.
Nothing really adds up to 5'7" for Bronson, he looked taller than that even in the 90's. His proportions didn't look like those of a 5'7" guy, he always looked atleast average height in films. That doesn't sound like 5'7" to me.
As far as Steve McQueen well in his mugshot he's coming just under 5'11". So take away 1 inch for shoes and then account for the fact that the mugshot was probably taken at night and there you have it. Steve was 5'10.5" out of bed and a little under 5'10" at night.
Yeah 5'7" seems really low, he must have lost height by the 90's meaning he'd be what 5'6' then? What would that make Sean Penn, 5'5" or 5.5"? Penn is 5'7" minimum and probably 5'8" in reality.
5'9,5" or 5'10" peak and 5'8.5" or 5'9" in his later films unless he wore lifts in that picture with Sean Penn. It's not like Penn hasn't been suspected of lifts though.
Nothing really adds up to 5'7" for Bronson, he looked taller than that even in the 90's. His proportions didn't look like those of a 5'7" guy, he always looked atleast average height in films. That doesn't sound like 5'7" to me.
As far as Steve McQueen well in his mugshot he's coming just under 5'11". So take away 1 inch for shoes and then account for the fact that the mugshot was probably taken at night and there you have it. Steve was 5'10.5" out of bed and a little under 5'10" at night.
glenn said on 29/Oct/08
great work kettla and risingforce.how does one get from 5-7 to 5-11,i dont know.lol.they do the same for alot of celebs that range though.bronson was no smaller than 5-9 in my opinion.maybe 5-10 when he was 15.
great work kettla and risingforce.how does one get from 5-7 to 5-11,i dont know.lol.they do the same for alot of celebs that range though.bronson was no smaller than 5-9 in my opinion.maybe 5-10 when he was 15.
Kettla said on 28/Oct/08
The most accurate information on height is listed in US military enlistment records. I checked out Bronson under his real name but the army clerk who recorded it made a mistake and the near illegible record is thus meaningless so it is impossible to know how tall Bronson really was. That said, in the two books published by his wife Jill Ireland she refers to her husband playing pool with her father and how Charlie had a height advantage over her dad who was five feet seven. Also in the Harbison biography of Bronson it records his height as five feet eleven at age 15.
I think the most accurate assessment is a picture of him and Elvis in Kid Galahad. Presley was allegedly six feet tall but his army records shows him to be 5'11. Thus Bronson standing next to him would be two or three inches shorter. I have also read that Bronson weighed 155lbs and judging by his slim muscularity that would equate to around 5'9. Incidentally military records for Borgnine say he is 5'9 and similarly steve mcqueen is at 5'7. Also look at Bronson with Tony Curtis in You cant win em All. Curtis navy record shows he was 5'9.
The most accurate information on height is listed in US military enlistment records. I checked out Bronson under his real name but the army clerk who recorded it made a mistake and the near illegible record is thus meaningless so it is impossible to know how tall Bronson really was. That said, in the two books published by his wife Jill Ireland she refers to her husband playing pool with her father and how Charlie had a height advantage over her dad who was five feet seven. Also in the Harbison biography of Bronson it records his height as five feet eleven at age 15.
I think the most accurate assessment is a picture of him and Elvis in Kid Galahad. Presley was allegedly six feet tall but his army records shows him to be 5'11. Thus Bronson standing next to him would be two or three inches shorter. I have also read that Bronson weighed 155lbs and judging by his slim muscularity that would equate to around 5'9. Incidentally military records for Borgnine say he is 5'9 and similarly steve mcqueen is at 5'7. Also look at Bronson with Tony Curtis in You cant win em All. Curtis navy record shows he was 5'9.
RisingForce said on 27/Oct/08
Even in his 70's Charles looked taller than Sean Penn(listed 5'8.25" here)
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Even in his 70's Charles looked taller than Sean Penn(listed 5'8.25" here)
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RisingForce said on 20/Oct/08
Look in the 5'9" to 5'10" range in the first Dweath Wish movie. His shoes did have a heel though, I don't know if he wore lifts in that movie. Either way I'm not convinced about 5'7", he seems kind of tall for a 5'7" guy and wasn't be claiming 5'10" or 5'11"?
Look in the 5'9" to 5'10" range in the first Dweath Wish movie. His shoes did have a heel though, I don't know if he wore lifts in that movie. Either way I'm not convinced about 5'7", he seems kind of tall for a 5'7" guy and wasn't be claiming 5'10" or 5'11"?
RisingForce said on 18/Sep/08
Bronson was probably atleast 5'9".
Bronson was probably atleast 5'9".
Dan said on 16/Sep/08
just watched an episode of the f.b.i called the animal, bronson is an escaped convict in it and the radio gives his height as 5"9 so ireckon 5"7 is definately it.
just watched an episode of the f.b.i called the animal, bronson is an escaped convict in it and the radio gives his height as 5"9 so ireckon 5"7 is definately it.
Ed T. said on 31/Aug/08
I agree with Mr. Venable's post of June 22nd. I saw the film Pat and Mike yesterday, and Charles Buchinski aka Charles Bronson looked small. He did not look any bigger than Katherine Hepburn and looked at the least 1. 5" smaller than Spencer TRacy, more like a solid two inches . Tracy was most likely 5'9" max and possibly closer to 5'8". I would say Bronson was maximum 5'7.5" and more likely 5'7" flat or even a hair under 5'7" at his peak. Both Tracy and Hepburn did refer to Bronson's character as "the small fellow."
For those of you who believe Bronson was at least 5'9" or even close to 5'10", please check out Pat and Mike ( 1952). There is no way you'll ever think that again.
I agree with Mr. Venable's post of June 22nd. I saw the film Pat and Mike yesterday, and Charles Buchinski aka Charles Bronson looked small. He did not look any bigger than Katherine Hepburn and looked at the least 1. 5" smaller than Spencer TRacy, more like a solid two inches . Tracy was most likely 5'9" max and possibly closer to 5'8". I would say Bronson was maximum 5'7.5" and more likely 5'7" flat or even a hair under 5'7" at his peak. Both Tracy and Hepburn did refer to Bronson's character as "the small fellow."
For those of you who believe Bronson was at least 5'9" or even close to 5'10", please check out Pat and Mike ( 1952). There is no way you'll ever think that again.
Nick said on 13/Aug/08
I met Bronson's stunt double in the early 90s. He said he was exactly the same size as Bronson, but wouldn't give a number. I'm just under six feet; I'll say the double was no way taller than 5'8" and my best guess would be closer to 5'6."
I met Bronson's stunt double in the early 90s. He said he was exactly the same size as Bronson, but wouldn't give a number. I'm just under six feet; I'll say the double was no way taller than 5'8" and my best guess would be closer to 5'6."
sf said on 2/Aug/08
si - es la verdad...
I just want to look smart, like I can speak Spanish....
si - es la verdad...
I just want to look smart, like I can speak Spanish....
simone said on 2/Aug/08
bronson era alto 1,78 o 1,75 non meno si può vedere nei magnifici 7
bronson era alto 1,78 o 1,75 non meno si può vedere nei magnifici 7
AA1PR said on 15/Jul/08
I was working back in 190-91 on the Bear MOuntain ski lift at Killington Mountain,VT. He came through the ski patrol line and procceeded like he did not have to wait for anyone and could jump the line. I told him this line was for ski patrol . His response was "do you not know who I am?" I said I do know who you are and you are no different so go around and wait with the rest. When he did go up the lift he never came back that day I think he either left or went somewhere else on the mountain. I am 5'11" and I would say he was ony 5'7" whle standing on his skis and all the gear. He was intimatdating at all but just plain rude.
I was working back in 190-91 on the Bear MOuntain ski lift at Killington Mountain,VT. He came through the ski patrol line and procceeded like he did not have to wait for anyone and could jump the line. I told him this line was for ski patrol . His response was "do you not know who I am?" I said I do know who you are and you are no different so go around and wait with the rest. When he did go up the lift he never came back that day I think he either left or went somewhere else on the mountain. I am 5'11" and I would say he was ony 5'7" whle standing on his skis and all the gear. He was intimatdating at all but just plain rude.
Dan said on 11/Jul/08
just watched chatos land and without doubt 5"7 , in the bar at beginning of film he looks small,
just watched chatos land and without doubt 5"7 , in the bar at beginning of film he looks small,
James W. said on 25/Jun/08
hmm...he was probably 5'7.5 at the end of his life. But in his younger years he looked atleast a legit 5'8.
hmm...he was probably 5'7.5 at the end of his life. But in his younger years he looked atleast a legit 5'8.
cyberyank said on 25/Jun/08
I just did a freeze frame of the movie "the mechanic" at the scene where bronson discovers jan michael vincent's hit files on him. It reads that he was 42 years old and 6 foot tall, which is pretty funny because charles bronson was over 50 years old at the time.
I just did a freeze frame of the movie "the mechanic" at the scene where bronson discovers jan michael vincent's hit files on him. It reads that he was 42 years old and 6 foot tall, which is pretty funny because charles bronson was over 50 years old at the time.
glenn said on 22/Jun/08
what was heps footwear? charles was in alot of movies under that name.
what was heps footwear? charles was in alot of movies under that name.
Mr.Venable said on 22/Jun/08
A young and not yet famous Bronson appeared in the Katharine Hepburn/Spencer Tracy classic "Pat and Mike" under his real name of Charles Buchinski . Now 5'7.5 was Kate's height and Bronson at the best was her height ( maybe even shorter ) . 5'9 / 5'10 for Bronson is a joke . Tracy himself was in that mark and he was noticeably taller than him in the movie . I could be wrong about this but I also seem to remember that someone in the movie ( probably Spence himself ) called Bronson a "small fellow" or something like that .
A young and not yet famous Bronson appeared in the Katharine Hepburn/Spencer Tracy classic "Pat and Mike" under his real name of Charles Buchinski . Now 5'7.5 was Kate's height and Bronson at the best was her height ( maybe even shorter ) . 5'9 / 5'10 for Bronson is a joke . Tracy himself was in that mark and he was noticeably taller than him in the movie . I could be wrong about this but I also seem to remember that someone in the movie ( probably Spence himself ) called Bronson a "small fellow" or something like that .
sf said on 20/Jun/08
Well, then I've got to see Death Wish 5, cause I really just couldn't imagine anything worse. Amazing that a guy who starred in "Once Upon a Time in the West" could also make Death Wish 4...or 5.
Well, then I've got to see Death Wish 5, cause I really just couldn't imagine anything worse. Amazing that a guy who starred in "Once Upon a Time in the West" could also make Death Wish 4...or 5.
dan said on 20/Jun/08
if you look a that line up very carefully, when lee marvin is in front of him and 5"7 richard jakael beside marvin, jakaels head is even with bronson,
if you look a that line up very carefully, when lee marvin is in front of him and 5"7 richard jakael beside marvin, jakaels head is even with bronson,
glenn said on 20/Jun/08
4 was brilliant compared to 5.
4 was brilliant compared to 5.
sf said on 18/Jun/08
Wow - I just saw a little of "Death Wish 4" the other night. After the first 10 minutes, I really just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, no matter how tall Charles Bronson was...
Wow - I just saw a little of "Death Wish 4" the other night. After the first 10 minutes, I really just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, no matter how tall Charles Bronson was...
Shaun said on 17/Jun/08
If you look at Charles Bronson's height in 'The Dirty Dozen' he is much shorter than alot of the other actors, especially 6'2" Lee Marvin, so this height seems reasonable. I'm also 1.71m.
If you look at Charles Bronson's height in 'The Dirty Dozen' he is much shorter than alot of the other actors, especially 6'2" Lee Marvin, so this height seems reasonable. I'm also 1.71m.
Daniel said on 2/Jun/08
Glenn, I just read a comment from 2006 on the Ernest Borgnine page in which you admitted Bronson was 5'7''. So, did you change your mind after that?
Glenn, I just read a comment from 2006 on the Ernest Borgnine page in which you admitted Bronson was 5'7''. So, did you change your mind after that?
sf said on 28/May/08
Okay - think about what you just wrote. If Bronson is 5'9", and can't have anyone any taller on the set, how does the "about 5'8" actor get rejected? He's not as tall? Well, because Bronson was only 5'7".
Okay - think about what you just wrote. If Bronson is 5'9", and can't have anyone any taller on the set, how does the "about 5'8" actor get rejected? He's not as tall? Well, because Bronson was only 5'7".
M2 said on 27/May/08
Years ago I met an actor who relayed an audition experience on a Charles Bronson movie. He met with the director (Michael Winner, I think) who asked only one question: How tall are you? They story he gave was that Bronson was 5'9" and would have absolutely no one on the set who was taller. My friend didn't get the part (he was about 5'8" -- too tall).
Years ago I met an actor who relayed an audition experience on a Charles Bronson movie. He met with the director (Michael Winner, I think) who asked only one question: How tall are you? They story he gave was that Bronson was 5'9" and would have absolutely no one on the set who was taller. My friend didn't get the part (he was about 5'8" -- too tall).
cyberyank said on 22/May/08
I think bronson is probably around 5.9, Jan Michael Vincent was actually not that tall either. I saw him on Bonanza and he was pretty short.
He was 5.11 with boots on in the mug shot.
I think bronson is probably around 5.9, Jan Michael Vincent was actually not that tall either. I saw him on Bonanza and he was pretty short.
He was 5.11 with boots on in the mug shot.
cyberyank said on 22/May/08
I think Shatner is probably around 5.8, but he looked very short on that episode of columbo. He looked very tall on star trek. Probably because he had gotten a lot fatter in the 70's.
I think Shatner is probably around 5.8, but he looked very short on that episode of columbo. He looked very tall on star trek. Probably because he had gotten a lot fatter in the 70's.
Dan said on 16/May/08
this is getting good glenn we opened a hornets nest here, Bill Shatner 5"6 no way defitanely 5"9 and charles bronson i just give up, but he was not 5"11 no way.
this is getting good glenn we opened a hornets nest here, Bill Shatner 5"6 no way defitanely 5"9 and charles bronson i just give up, but he was not 5"11 no way.
derek d said on 14/May/08
Wow only 5'7.5? I just watched the mechanic (1972) and he looked so much taller... like 5'10 ish... Theres a scene with his 5'10 ish co star that he looked the same height while even in sandals..... Unless he wore lifts in all of his films including that one he's not/wasn't under 5'9/5'10.
Wow only 5'7.5? I just watched the mechanic (1972) and he looked so much taller... like 5'10 ish... Theres a scene with his 5'10 ish co star that he looked the same height while even in sandals..... Unless he wore lifts in all of his films including that one he's not/wasn't under 5'9/5'10.
glenn said on 13/May/08
ive heard of the episode.i kinda vaguely remember it from when i was a kid.my father watched it all the time.i examined shatner in low cut sneakers and shorts 7 years ago and he was 5-9.saw him last year and he was still around that in dress shoes.
ive heard of the episode.i kinda vaguely remember it from when i was a kid.my father watched it all the time.i examined shatner in low cut sneakers and shorts 7 years ago and he was 5-9.saw him last year and he was still around that in dress shoes.
cyberyank said on 13/May/08
Hey glenn, have you seen Columbo: fade to murder with Shatner as the co-star?
Him and Columbo was the same height, below average height. Shatner's character wore special shoes to make him look taller and was written in the script, which was pretty funny.
Shatner was 5.6 just like Columbo. Maybe a little taller at 5.7, but definately not 5.9
Hey glenn, have you seen Columbo: fade to murder with Shatner as the co-star?
Him and Columbo was the same height, below average height. Shatner's character wore special shoes to make him look taller and was written in the script, which was pretty funny.
Shatner was 5.6 just like Columbo. Maybe a little taller at 5.7, but definately not 5.9
glenn said on 12/May/08
william shatner was 5-9ish peak.now is up for debate.
william shatner was 5-9ish peak.now is up for debate.
glenn said on 12/May/08
it looked real to me,but the point you make is correct.it doesnt matter cause they can place the chart where they want.
it looked real to me,but the point you make is correct.it doesnt matter cause they can place the chart where they want.
sf said on 11/May/08
Oh, I don't know - just didn't look real to me.
Anyway, as we've all discussed several times, the height chart in the background makes no difference. You can place a height chart at any height you want to. 6 feet could actually be 5'9", etc. etc.
Oh, I don't know - just didn't look real to me.
Anyway, as we've all discussed several times, the height chart in the background makes no difference. You can place a height chart at any height you want to. 6 feet could actually be 5'9", etc. etc.
glenn said on 11/May/08
i always said he was 5-10 peak.
i always said he was 5-10 peak.
cyberyank said on 11/May/08
William Shatner was 5'6". He was on an episode of columbo and the wearing lifts was written in the script, which was funny. Shatner and Peter Falk were the same height.
William Shatner was 5'6". He was on an episode of columbo and the wearing lifts was written in the script, which was funny. Shatner and Peter Falk were the same height.
cyberyank said on 11/May/08
That was an actual footage in the film "mr majestyk", that I took with my digital camera. He looked about average height, taller than 5'7.5" throughout the film.
Charles Bronson never really wore outrageous footwear in his films. He was wearing only slippers in "the Mechanic" when (5'10") Jan Michael Vincent visited him and they were about the same height.
In the early films, when he was an unknown, the studios probably made him shorter because of his insignificant role. All the others were probably wearing lifts to make them stand out more.
That was an actual footage in the film "mr majestyk", that I took with my digital camera. He looked about average height, taller than 5'7.5" throughout the film.
Charles Bronson never really wore outrageous footwear in his films. He was wearing only slippers in "the Mechanic" when (5'10") Jan Michael Vincent visited him and they were about the same height.
In the early films, when he was an unknown, the studios probably made him shorter because of his insignificant role. All the others were probably wearing lifts to make them stand out more.
chris175 said on 10/May/08
5-7.5 in his later years maybe, but looked 5-10 to me in his films, i could believe that mugshot lol
5-7.5 in his later years maybe, but looked 5-10 to me in his films, i could believe that mugshot lol
sf said on 9/May/08
Can anyone say "photoshop?"
Can anyone say "photoshop?"
Dan said on 9/May/08
william shatner had an add on tv for some cereal and he stood beside a chart showing he was 6 foot and he is only 5"9.
william shatner had an add on tv for some cereal and he stood beside a chart showing he was 6 foot and he is only 5"9.
glenn said on 9/May/08
wouldnt that make him 5-10 if he was wearing footwear?
wouldnt that make him 5-10 if he was wearing footwear?
cyberyank said on 9/May/08
Charles Bronson was 5'11". Here's the proof. This is from a scene from Mr. Majestyk when he was arrested.
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Charles Bronson was 5'11". Here's the proof. This is from a scene from Mr. Majestyk when he was arrested.
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Chris said on 7/May/08
I'm surprised. Like Glenn, I thought this guy was average height...5'9" or 5'10".
I'm surprised. Like Glenn, I thought this guy was average height...5'9" or 5'10".
glenn said on 30/Apr/08
he didnt look 5-7 in films like the great escape.maybe he was,but he pulled off looking 5-9,5-10.jill i have no clue on,but your right,she was kinda on the taller side for a woman.not for a man.
he didnt look 5-7 in films like the great escape.maybe he was,but he pulled off looking 5-9,5-10.jill i have no clue on,but your right,she was kinda on the taller side for a woman.not for a man.
Dan said on 29/Apr/08
glenn i think 5"7 is about it, with boots on 5"9 that looks like it, how tall was jill ireland there was not much between them in photos.
glenn i think 5"7 is about it, with boots on 5"9 that looks like it, how tall was jill ireland there was not much between them in photos.
glenn said on 28/Apr/08
i dont believe he was 5-7 his whole life though.maybe as he got older.
i dont believe he was 5-7 his whole life though.maybe as he got older.
Gozor said on 27/Apr/08
I personally saw him in NH a couple of times. So did many people I interact with on a daily basis. Bronson was 5-7 more or less. Anyone who tells you he was 5-10 or whatever's wayy off. Kibldof there is right. Bronson's rep around these parts wasn't good.
I personally saw him in NH a couple of times. So did many people I interact with on a daily basis. Bronson was 5-7 more or less. Anyone who tells you he was 5-10 or whatever's wayy off. Kibldof there is right. Bronson's rep around these parts wasn't good.
glenn said on 27/Apr/08
you mean wirey then.he was listed at 5-11.or at least thats what his publicist said.
you mean wirey then.he was listed at 5-11.or at least thats what his publicist said.
Dan said on 26/Apr/08
no glen i didnt say skinny i said slim in ireland that means not carrying fat on the body, he was very muscular but a kind of light weight boxer type if you know what i mean,yea 5"7 to 5"10 is definately accurate
no glen i didnt say skinny i said slim in ireland that means not carrying fat on the body, he was very muscular but a kind of light weight boxer type if you know what i mean,yea 5"7 to 5"10 is definately accurate
glenn said on 26/Apr/08
dan-i wouldnt rule it out either.the man was between 5-7 and 5-10.but im more on the 5-9.he never really looked smaller.except what your finding.i respect that.maybe you have a point.but i think 5-7 is wrong.and i disagree that he was skinny.he seemed built to me.from coal mining.
dan-i wouldnt rule it out either.the man was between 5-7 and 5-10.but im more on the 5-9.he never really looked smaller.except what your finding.i respect that.maybe you have a point.but i think 5-7 is wrong.and i disagree that he was skinny.he seemed built to me.from coal mining.
Dan said on 25/Apr/08
guys i wouldnt rule out 5"7 he was a slim man and that would give the impression he was tall, in drum beat with alan ladd he looked only an inch taller and ladd was 5"6
guys i wouldnt rule out 5"7 he was a slim man and that would give the impression he was tall, in drum beat with alan ladd he looked only an inch taller and ladd was 5"6
glenn said on 25/Apr/08
the funniest thing on this page is 5-6.unless he shrunk with age and illness.he was around 5-9 peak.your peeps arent the only one who saw him.i never did,but most my friends met him.and he was very sweet to them.however i did here he was nasty towards the end too.not towards my friends.
the funniest thing on this page is 5-6.unless he shrunk with age and illness.he was around 5-9 peak.your peeps arent the only one who saw him.i never did,but most my friends met him.and he was very sweet to them.however i did here he was nasty towards the end too.not towards my friends.
kb1dof said on 24/Apr/08
Bronson was one of my favorite actors. He and I share Tartaric Lithuanian ancestry. There are few six footers among the Tartaric Lithuanians. I am around 5ft 10inches and am taller than most. Bronson was widely seen in public in this part of Vermont, where he lived. He was locally known as a nasty person. I never saw him myself, but many of my friends who would cross his path said he was around 5 foot 6 inches or so.
You cannot tell much from what you see in movies. Alan Ladd, for example, was very short, but camera angles, platform shoes and standing on platforms when next to other people hid that. The funniest thing I read here is that he is 5 foot 11 based on standing in front of a line-up height chart in a movie. Did you ever think that they adjusted the chart on the wall so that he would appear to be 5 foot 11, and not 5 foot 6?
Bronson was one of my favorite actors. He and I share Tartaric Lithuanian ancestry. There are few six footers among the Tartaric Lithuanians. I am around 5ft 10inches and am taller than most. Bronson was widely seen in public in this part of Vermont, where he lived. He was locally known as a nasty person. I never saw him myself, but many of my friends who would cross his path said he was around 5 foot 6 inches or so.
You cannot tell much from what you see in movies. Alan Ladd, for example, was very short, but camera angles, platform shoes and standing on platforms when next to other people hid that. The funniest thing I read here is that he is 5 foot 11 based on standing in front of a line-up height chart in a movie. Did you ever think that they adjusted the chart on the wall so that he would appear to be 5 foot 11, and not 5 foot 6?
glenn said on 19/Apr/08
im with danimal on this one,but not as stern.im open to the possiblity that he was shorter than 5-9.but since i never met any of these legends,ill never know.judging from alleged,supposed heights of other actors isnt fair either.cause we know steve mcqueen is mentioned from 5-7 to 5-10.5.so which was he? i truly think steve was 5-10.5 and shrunk with age and illness.his autopsy had him at 5-7.thats a hell of a drop.so we will never know.and telly was 5-10 i think.
im with danimal on this one,but not as stern.im open to the possiblity that he was shorter than 5-9.but since i never met any of these legends,ill never know.judging from alleged,supposed heights of other actors isnt fair either.cause we know steve mcqueen is mentioned from 5-7 to 5-10.5.so which was he? i truly think steve was 5-10.5 and shrunk with age and illness.his autopsy had him at 5-7.thats a hell of a drop.so we will never know.and telly was 5-10 i think.
Lmeister said on 19/Apr/08
Rob has posted a pic of Yul Brynner(5ft8) and Charles Bronson posing together with similar boots and Brynner is taller. It is a pity that the link doesn't work anymore. I agree that he looked 5ft9 in some movies, but then again he looked shorter in quite a few. He was shorter than Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner and Telly Savalas so he wasn't 5ft9-5ft10.
Rob has posted a pic of Yul Brynner(5ft8) and Charles Bronson posing together with similar boots and Brynner is taller. It is a pity that the link doesn't work anymore. I agree that he looked 5ft9 in some movies, but then again he looked shorter in quite a few. He was shorter than Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner and Telly Savalas so he wasn't 5ft9-5ft10.
Lmeister said on 19/Apr/08
You think it is a joke. Then you have to watch Dirty Dozen and some other of his movies. He was a small guy with a big presence.
You think it is a joke. Then you have to watch Dirty Dozen and some other of his movies. He was a small guy with a big presence.
Danimal said on 18/Apr/08
No WAY was he less than 5'9" and I do believe 5'10" as well. 5'7"-5'7.5" is a joke for Bronson. Rob, what have you based your opinion's on on this one, because I fully don't agree with you on this listing.
No WAY was he less than 5'9" and I do believe 5'10" as well. 5'7"-5'7.5" is a joke for Bronson. Rob, what have you based your opinion's on on this one, because I fully don't agree with you on this listing.
Dan said on 11/Apr/08
i wouldnt call 5"6 short but anyway i think bronson was 5"10 only with his boots on in westerns and 5"9 in shoes in death wish and so on,
i wouldnt call 5"6 short but anyway i think bronson was 5"10 only with his boots on in westerns and 5"9 in shoes in death wish and so on,
Daniel said on 10/Apr/08
I disagree, Dan. Less than 5'9'' CAN be considered short by modern standards. Don't forget this subject of "short" or "tall" is a relative issue. By the way, I'm only 5'6'' (barefoot and evening measure) myself and have no problem at all about being called short, even though in my country (Per
I disagree, Dan. Less than 5'9'' CAN be considered short by modern standards. Don't forget this subject of "short" or "tall" is a relative issue. By the way, I'm only 5'6'' (barefoot and evening measure) myself and have no problem at all about being called short, even though in my country (Per
glenn said on 10/Apr/08
i remember that in death wish 3.but i thought the chart said 5-10.i could be wrong.
i remember that in death wish 3.but i thought the chart said 5-10.i could be wrong.
Dan said on 9/Apr/08
in the film showdown at boothill he had a height complex and was considered short, anyone 5"8 to5"11 isint short, i still go with 5"7 and that is not short either,im 5"8 myself
in the film showdown at boothill he had a height complex and was considered short, anyone 5"8 to5"11 isint short, i still go with 5"7 and that is not short either,im 5"8 myself
Curious said on 8/Apr/08
In Death Wish 3, after he gets arrested, he's standing in front of a height chart wearing his shoes and he's exactly 5'11". So without the shoes probably 5'10" or 5'9.5".
In Death Wish 3, after he gets arrested, he's standing in front of a height chart wearing his shoes and he's exactly 5'11". So without the shoes probably 5'10" or 5'9.5".
sam said on 7/Apr/08
he's problably around 5'9-5'10 he most certainly is not 5'7!!!
he's problably around 5'9-5'10 he most certainly is not 5'7!!!
Daniel said on 2/Apr/08
I think Glenn is right. 5'9'' is the most accurate estimate for Bronson
I think Glenn is right. 5'9'' is the most accurate estimate for Bronson
glenn said on 21/Mar/08
some say 5-7.but that sounds ridiculous.you never know though.5-9 makes most sense cause he looked that or 5-10.i doubt he was 5-10 barefoot too though.i think read 5-11 for him as well.
some say 5-7.but that sounds ridiculous.you never know though.5-9 makes most sense cause he looked that or 5-10.i doubt he was 5-10 barefoot too though.i think read 5-11 for him as well.
Curious said on 21/Mar/08
I don't believe for one second he was 5'7.5". I've seen many of his movies and he looks at least 5'10". Of course that's with shoes, so maybe 5'9" or a little more. He doesn't look as short as some people have claimed.
I don't believe for one second he was 5'7.5". I've seen many of his movies and he looks at least 5'10". Of course that's with shoes, so maybe 5'9" or a little more. He doesn't look as short as some people have claimed.
Chris175 said on 20/Mar/08
yeah, i could have swore minimum 5-10 before i saw this, i really cant see this guy as being less than 5-9 in his peak its weird.
yeah, i could have swore minimum 5-10 before i saw this, i really cant see this guy as being less than 5-9 in his peak its weird.
glenn said on 11/Mar/08
i agree he can look 5-10.but i think 5-9 is more reality.
i agree he can look 5-10.but i think 5-9 is more reality.
curious said on 11/Mar/08
Hard to believe he is only 5'7.5". He appears to look around 5'10".
Hard to believe he is only 5'7.5". He appears to look around 5'10".
Dan said on 18/Feb/08
i saw riding shotgun aswell and boothill he does look 5"7 in them this i would definately say is his height, hope someone comes back with an answer
i saw riding shotgun aswell and boothill he does look 5"7 in them this i would definately say is his height, hope someone comes back with an answer
Anonymous said on 15/Feb/08
i saw him in riding shotgun with randolph scott and he definately looks 5" 7 and i have show down at boothill and he is short looking it, anybody got answers for us
i saw him in riding shotgun with randolph scott and he definately looks 5" 7 and i have show down at boothill and he is short looking it, anybody got answers for us
Dan said on 8/Feb/08
i bought his early tv apperances and he looks tall, and then i have him standing next to randolph scott who was "6 "2 and he was only up to his elbow, as height goes charles bronson is really confusing. DANNY
i bought his early tv apperances and he looks tall, and then i have him standing next to randolph scott who was "6 "2 and he was only up to his elbow, as height goes charles bronson is really confusing. DANNY
Mike said on 10/Jan/08
I saw him in manhattan once I'm 5'9" and he ewas shorter than me
I saw him in manhattan once I'm 5'9" and he ewas shorter than me
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