Andy Ruiz Jr's Height
6ft 0 (182.9 cm)
Mexican-American professional boxer, who was a World Heavyweight Champion. He has claimed to be as tall as "Six Two".
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5ft 11.64in (182cm)
Tazukaem@yahoo.com said on 27/Apr/24
He’s barely 5’11 Jarell miller dwarfed him in the weigh in it looked like a 5-6 inch height difference and I have Miller as 6’3-6’4.But tbf he prob wearing shoes with either lifts or large soles so Ruiz prob about 5’11.definitely not 6 foot even Hearn is closer to 5 inches taller than him
Ben - 186cm said on 10/Sep/23
I feel like he’s probably not quite as tall as the listing
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Ben - 6'1 said on 25/Mar/23
@Jawilder
With a huge footwear advantage yeah.
Ben - 6'1 said on 25/Mar/23
He’s 5’11, but in one of the press conferences against Joshua he wore lifts to look closer in height with him. During the fight it was an obvious towering — about 7 inches.
OriginalAnon said on 7/Mar/23
Emil, it's not that deep. Boxers, especially heavyweights, are notorious for inflating their height. There are so many in the heavyweight division that if you go down a list on boxrec, for example, more than not are inflating their height by 1" and quite often 2". Ruiz has not seen 6' a day in his life.
Sampex said on 7/Feb/23
5'11.5-5'11.75
Emil said on 24/Jan/23
He could base his 6'2 claim on some measurement he had taken for his driver's license or something. In shoes, and in front of a height chart, it could look like he'd just about hit the 6'2" mark earlier in the day.
But barefoot, I'd be surprised if he exceeded 6'0" after lunchtime, at least with a stadiometer.
Jawilder said on 23/Jan/23
Didn’t he look an inch taller than Odell
berta said on 23/Jan/23
looks shorter than 6 foot. i thought maybe 181cm but have not seen muthc of him. over 6 foot seems impossible.
Slamo said on 19/Dec/22
6-0. No more. 6-2 is just wrong.
Ben - 6'1.5 said on 3/Sep/22
I think this is a bit too high Rob. Here he is with 5’8 Terrence Crawford in similar footwear
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And here is Crawford with 5’8.25 listed Amir Khan
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He can’t be more than a strong 5’11 in my opinion. He wasn’t any taller than 5’11.25 Jimmy Kimmel even though he’s tilting his head up to look taller
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184guy2 said on 30/Jun/22
Usyk is 6'2.5
Realist said on 29/Apr/22
He is very weak 6'0 he is a few inches taller than the average man and claims 6'2 that would be in Z-coils.
OriginalAnon said on 20/Apr/22
Arjuna, not sure if you follow boxing, but Usyk is easily 189cm at an absolute minimum and will definitely clear 191cm in the morning at the absolute least.
181.6cm guy said on 16/Jan/22
Taking a closer look, maybe he is 6'0, I think the angle made him look taller, 6'0 is an excellent height for boxing, a pity he inflates 2 inches.
181.6cm guy said on 16/Jan/22
Hey Rob, I was watching Ruiz and Joshua fight, and he looked like 6'1.5-6'2
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Do you think he was wearing some heels or something?
Ajax (5ft 9 3/4 - 5ft 10 5/8) said on 8/Oct/21
ArjunaKorale you must be joking, 184cm is impossible for Usyk. He would actually tower a guy like Andy Ruiz.
ArjunaKorale said on 29/Sep/21
What about Joshua’s most recent conqueror, Rob? What about Usyk? I have him anywhere between 6 ft 0.5 inches (184 cm) & 6 ft 2 inches (188 cm) inclusive.
Editor Rob
Nearer 6ft 2 than 6ft 0.5
Mickie said on 16/Sep/21
@Harry - I never said winning one version of the title makes you automatically legitimate. Factually speaking the results said top heavyweights tend to be about an inch and a half taller than the 70s.
I don't know why that fact bothers you so much, it's not like boxing fans even generally respect modern heavyweights much. Boxing is one of the few sports I know of where the fans tend to underrate the current champions vs past champions. Pretty much any GOAT list will cite a bunch of old fighters and say that there is no chance the current best guys couldn't hang with them. In basketball for example it's the opposite where the old champions are often underrated.
Harry Sachs said on 10/Jul/21
Lol @Mickie winning the title doesn't make you relevant. Various guys have help parts of the title and nobody cared or even knew who they were. The point is little child is there were tons of 6'5 plus fighter in the 70's 80' and 90's and I never heard anybody get excited over that fact or call these guys super heavwyeights.
Gman42 said on 30/Apr/21
Looks like 2.5 inches shorter than Arreola, although I did not check the footwear. I have had Arreola at 6'2.5 for a long time, so this is about the difference in height I expected between the two of them.
Mickie said on 14/Feb/21
Fighting for a title doesn't suddenly make you super relevant. Maybe in the 70s there was some basis for that. Anyway - this guy back in 2016 tried to complie the sort of list I was saying you should to comment on trends. His results suggested that the HWs are an inch and a half taller than they were in the 70s:
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Harry Sachs said on 12/Feb/21
@Mickie every single last one of the guys I named were top 10 or even top 5 guys. Gerry Cooney, Al Jones, Leroy Jones, Chuck Wepner, Jack O'Halloran, Roy "Tiger" Williams ect were all 6'5 plus inch guys and all were top 10 guys. Leroy Jones, Gerry Cooney, and Chuck Wepner all fought for the title/Titles. Just because you are a casual fan kid who only knows who Ali is because you heard ESPN mention doesn't change the fact they were tons of legit 6'5 plus legit world class top 10 level fighters in the 70's and nobody cared of acted like being 6'5 made you a star.
Rapha said on 8/Jan/21
Hi Rob
Your listing is right, he is definitely not 185 cm tall, let alone 188 cm tall as he is stating.
Mickie said on 3/Jan/21
Naming the current heavyweight champions is "cherry picking" now? My point remains, nobody cares about random 6'5"+ heavyweights, you have to point to evidence of an objective trend. Be it the heights of the champions, top 10 rated boxers, etc.
Harry Sachs said on 16/Dec/20
Lol and @Mickie you cherry pick taller fighters and ignore the shorter fighters like Andy Ruiz. Nobody considered George Foreman tall back in the 70's and nobody considered Ali tall back in the 70's. If the guys I named were 6'5-6-6 or even 6'9 back in the 70's then why would anybody consider the 6'2 1/2 Ali and 6'3 George Foreman tall?
The point is kid there were tons of 6'5 fighters back in the 70's and nobody ever considered these guys super heavyweights. Casual boxing fans just started spouting that super heavyweight stuff in the past 5-1o years.
Realist said on 18/Nov/20
He's barely 6'0 I don't know what they gave him but Anthony Joshua almost 6'6 was an easy 5'5 inches taller there's no doubt about that.
FriedChicken said on 3/Oct/20
Taller than 5'11" flat but not a legit 6 footer. I would've guessed 5'11 1/2 or 5'11 3/4
Roots4828 said on 17/Sep/20
Click Here Andy pulling a heel-rise.
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Mickie said on 6/Aug/20
There goes Harry Sachs again, cherry picking random 6'5"+ heavyweights from the old days to make a point about boxers from decades ago being better. Fact is
Tyson Fury at 6'7.25" - 6'7.5" would have a big height advantage over George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali who were considered tall fighters. Anthony Joshua at 6'5'.75" would be much bigger too. Doesn't mean Fury or AJ would beat those guys, but it does mean they'd be taller.
Nobody cares that there were some slow plodders who were tall back then, the trend is obviously in favor of taller champions now. If you want to comment on a trend, pick something objective. Do average heights of HW champions, or average height of Ring magazine top 10s by year, etc. Litterally nobody cares about naming a handfull of irrelevant HWs from the 70s.
Harry Sachs said on 2/Aug/20
Lol @Jordan87 this is the last message I will send to you then I will just ignore you. You do know Google and Boxrec are wrong most of the time? Google has Andy Ruiz being 6'2 when he isn't. Google has CM Punk being 6'2 when he isn't. Google has Kane the wrestler being 7'0 taller. Clearly you are one of those guys who just thinks he knows more than what he does.
Tyson Fury isn't 6'9. He is 6'7. There were countless 6'7 boxers back in the 1990's. Anthony Joshua is around 6'5. As stated there were tons of 6'5 or so inch boxers even back in the 1970's Again Leroy Jones, Al Jones, Gerry Cooney, Chuck Wepner, Jack O"Halloran, Roy Williams,Larry Middleton, James J Beattie was actually 6'9, Orville Qualls, Jeff Merrit,ect. Should I name more? Then you had tons of guys who were shorter than 6'5 but taller than 6'3 bet George Foreman, Ron Lyle, Larry Holmes, Duane and Rodney Bobick.
You clearly don't watch boxing. You just think you know what you are talking about. Even the shorter guys like Joe Frazier who was 5'11 was no shorter than Andy Ruiz Jr. Guys like Muhammad Ali was still just as big if not bigger than Joseph Parker, Alexander Povektkin, Michael Hunter who were all either champions or contenders up until recently. The human bodeis doesn't evolve ever 20 years.
Nobody mentioned height back then because nobody cared.Nobody thought height made you a better fighter. Commentators will tell you that current heavyweights are so much bigger and stronger than even the heights from the 90s because they want you to watch their product. Hell a 50 year old Evander Holyfield was able to hold his own it not do better against the 5'11 overweight Andy Ruiz. The same Andy Ruiz who beat the stuffing out of Anthony Joshua. Anyway I am done. I won't waste my time responding to anything else you say kid.
Harry Sachs said on 2/Aug/20
@Canson Gerry Cooney boxed back in the 70's he was 6'5, Al Jones was 6'5/6'6. Leroy Jones was 6'5, Roy "Tiger" Williams was 6'5, Jack O'Halloran was 6'6, Chuck Wepner was 6'5. Should I go on? The typical casual fan will just mention Ali or Frazier and think those were the only two boxers from the 70's. Hell Ali was Still taller than guys like Andy Ruiz, Alexander Povetkin, who just won titles recently. Ali was around the same height as guys like Luis Ortiz and Joseph Parker who also just won titles recently.
You want to go even further? You do know Michael Grant, Jorge Gonzales Henry Akinwande,Lance Whitaker were all at least 6'7. Then you had guys like Mike "The Giant" White who was 6'10 300 pounds. Again nobody cared because nobody thought being taller made you a better fighter. Now casual fans will hear Max Kellerman talk about how much bigger and taller guys are today compared to even the guys from the early 2000's or later 90's and they believe this stuff is true.
You want me to go further? Most athletes now including boxers are measured with their shoes on and then still inflate their heights. Andy Ruiz is no where near 6'2.
Tyson Fury is a 6'7 guy who claims to be 6'9. Boxes back in the 70's and maybe into the early 80's were measured barefooted so for the most part their heights were less inflated
Harry Sachs said on 2/Aug/20
@Canson todays boxers are fatter. Fatter doesn't equate to bigger. Even in terms of height. There were tons of boxers 6'4 plus from the 70's, 80's 90's. The thing is nobody cared. There is no height class in boxing. There is a weight class.
Mon said on 11/Jul/20
After the first fight with them still in the ring and obviously both wearing low heeled boxing boot, Ruiz and Joshua stood together for cameras a long time and the photos show the top of Ruiz's head was at the level of the bottom of Joshua's nose. Ruiz is under 6 foot, that is why he got his chance, they simply underestimated him because of his being a bit short for world class heavyweight. Ruiz is certainly over 5'11 but is not a strong 6 foot. The extra two inches is promotional. The fans are excited by tall heavyweights, so for the purpose of making Ruiz's bouts more appealing and more competitive match they (managers ect) bump up his height.
Mickie said on 2/Jul/20
He looked to close to AJ in height at the first weigh in to be 5'11", unless he was wearing lifts in his shoes. I also can see that he's taller than Odell. Andy has more footwear, but the pictures is tilted in such a way that favors Odell looking a bit than he should. 6'0" flat is fair, that looked reasonable with Mike Tyson.
Monkey knees said on 16/Jun/20
5ft 11.5in tops.
Jake wills said on 1/Jun/20
he is definitely a tricky one, his size makes him look about 3 inches shorter. I think 6'2 is really pushing it, probably Ruiz is closer to 6'0 . I think he is about 6'0.5 maybe 6'1 in shoes. definitely not 5'11, I don't know why people keep saying that. Ruiz is probably the shortest heavyweight boxer around so i doubt he is over 6'1.
6'2 5/8ths said on 26/May/20
I remember watching the fight with Joshua and thinking how short Ruiz looked. My mate then told me he was the same height as me and I was appalled; I had the false and confusing realization that I look that small compared to 6'5 range guys, till trusty Rob put his real height up on here. I do think he's a little below 6 foot though, I'll say 5'11.5". Didn't look much taller than Mike Tyson.
Mark Allan said on 11/May/20
Rob, Why does the boxing industry list him as 6’2 he clearly isn’t 6’2 he only had a couple of inches on Mike Tyson I think he’s 6’0 max no more no less do you agree?
Editor Rob
With Boxing, there's no measurement of height criteria unlike weight.
I think sports like Boxing, MMA, Wrestling are missing out by never doing any actual Height Measurement segments etc.
Canson said on 13/Mar/20
Anthony Joshua even alludes to it here that the guys today are bigger than they were before
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Mickie said on 12/Mar/20
@Jordan87 - I agree with you as well. A certain poster likes to cherry pick random heavyweights from the 70s to prove they were as big as today's. It is madness. Just look at the trends of the guys who actually hold the belts. That is something objective. And it indicates height and weight have been increasing. Occasionally a shorter man like Ruiz can break through, but then again he defended the title exactly 0 times.
Mickie said on 11/Mar/20
@c-mo - I agree. Just look at him next to Odell, he's clearly taller. Unless he is a lift wearer, Andy is roughly 6'0". If he wears lifts then that's the only way I can buy closer to 5'11".
Canson said on 29/Feb/20
@Jordan87: agreed. We didn’t have the
Tyson Fury’s or the Dominic Brazeilles or the Deontay’s the Klitschko’s etc. these 6’6 and 6’7 guys. in the 90s we had Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis and before that it was Foreman Holmes Lewis and Ali
Steven Hearnden said on 28/Feb/20
Ruiz Jr was recently interviewed on TV and asked how tall he is. He replied 6'2"!
Yeah right, and you only weigh 11 stone, don't you Andy?! :-)
Jordan87 said on 19/Feb/20
@ HarrySachs ,
"Anyway the current heavyweights are no taller than they were since the 70's. They are just much heavier"
Use Google and Boxrec again, not very difficult. Heavyweights most Certainly taller nowadays, factually :)
OriginalAnon said on 15/Feb/20
5'10" for Ruiz.
c-mo said on 26/Dec/19
how can he be 5'11 when he is clearly 2 inches taller than Mike Tyson who is 5'10 ? what are you guys talking about ...
TheBat said on 13/Dec/19
Can't see Andy at 6'0", he's most likely 5'11.25".
Bazza said on 13/Dec/19
Yeah not even 6'0 flat. Boxing is getting like WWE with the height inflations.
179.5-180 said on 12/Dec/19
No more than 180cm, he didn’t look that tall here in Saudi Arabia where average height is 172-173cm
J. B said on 10/Dec/19
No more then 5'11 - why they got him down at 6'2 is nuts why don't they say AJ is 6'9? Oh Just remembered they can't
Tyson Fury took that one.
james matakwei said on 10/Dec/19
Ruiz is indeed 5 11," pants down - 6 2" is bull. He's almost Mike Tyson's height, considering how Tyson matched against a 6 3/4" Lennox Lewis. Considering Joshua is at least 6 5," Andy is shorter than 6 foot.
Harry Sachs said on 10/Dec/19
@Mickie First off kid there was one belt back in the 1970's or 6'5 plus guys like Gerry Cooney, Roy "Tiger" Williams, Al Jones, Leroy Jones ect would of won the title. Rocky Marciano as I stated boxed in the 1950's. The average heavyweight back then was 180 pounds.
Second kid there is no height class in boxing. There are weight classes. Nobody back in the 70's 80's 90's or even early to mid 2000's acted like being 6'5 was a super heavyweight or a big deal. If anything the taller you get the less skilled you become.
Anyway the current heavyweights are no taller than they were since the 70's. They are just much heavier.
JamboD said on 8/Dec/19
Rob,jake Paul recently had a pic with Andy on twitter and jake looks about two inches smaller
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Mickie said on 7/Dec/19
Ruiz can certainly look under 6'0". He has also looked too tall to be less than 6'0" in some situations, unless he is also a lift wearer (which is possible, you never know).
Like this:
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AJ is barefoot and yes, Ruiz is in shoes. Ruiz might be standing straighter of the two but Joshua isn't slouching much either. None the less, this isn't what a 5'11" guy would look like next to a near 6'6" guy with just a normal 1" shoe and no lifts. There are other examples like this.
So I think he's either a 6'0" non-lift wearer or he's a closer to 5'11" range lift wearer.
Jed said on 7/Dec/19
Standing next to Canelo Alvarez backstage before his fight with Joshua he really doesn’t look much taller. Certainly not 4.5”.
pov said on 6/Dec/19
I believe ruiz is 6 foot, 5”11.5 at lowest. But joshua looked more than 6 inches taller than him from a face to face and recent weigh in. As he walked up he was walking as though he had inserted lifts, so he could give off the impression he towers over ruiz, which he does anyways. I think joshua was wearing shoes with lifts or had a substantial footwear advantage. He looked 7-8 inches taller
Voltaire said on 6/Dec/19
I think Ruiz' needs an inch or two taken off here, Rob.
Kimblemur said on 5/Dec/19
6 foot 2 is absolute rubbish, 5’11.5
Facto said on 4/Dec/19
I would even say 5'11. If Anthony Joshua is listed at 6'5½. In the most current face off between the 2 AJ is clearly at least 6-7 inches taller than Ruiz. Maybe even 8 inches
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Facto said on 4/Dec/19
I would even say 5'11. If Anthony Joshua is listed at 6'5½. In the most current face off between the 2 AJ is clearly at least 6-7 inches taller than Ruiz. Maybe even 8 inches
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Facto said on 4/Dec/19
I would even say 5'11. If Anthony Joshua is listed at 6'5½. In the most current face off between the 2 AJ is clearly at least 6-7 inches taller than Ruiz. Maybe even 8 inches
ajax509 said on 28/Nov/19
Divisonleaders all time (subjective):
super heavy = "the Donald" shorturl.at/ceoyX
heavy = T.Fury
cruiser = Usyk
light heavy = Jones Jr.
super middle = Calzaghe
middle = Canelo
super welter = Marie "Eve" Dicaire
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welter = Mayweather Jr.
Mickie said on 28/Nov/19
@ Harry - I'm picking and choosing? Me? That seems like projection. You're naming random big heavyweights from decades old. I'm saying look at the trend of the height and weight of the title holders. Its gone up, on average. But there are always exceptions.
You may well be a more knowledgeable boxing fan than me, but you don't have to be an expert to see that the champions have on average been a bit bigger over time. It is really not complicated.
Harry Sachs said on 26/Nov/19
Lol @mickie Rocky Marciano boxed in the 50's. I am talking about guys from the 70's on. You ever heard of Lou Esa 6'6 260. Al Jones 6'5 230, Leroy Jones 6'5 250, Gerry Cooney 6'5 230, Roy "Tiger" William 6'5 240. ect. I could name another 50 heavyweights from the 70's alone who were at least 6'5 but you aren't worth it. You will find something silly to type to prove your point.
You are picking and choose fighters to prove your point. Andy Ruiz is 5'11/6'0 tops. Alexander Povetkin is 6'1. Luis Ortiz is 6'2.
The fighters now are fat.There is one thing to be big and another thing to be fat. Fighters back in the 70's 80's 90's and even early 2000's were in much better shape than the guys are today in the heavyweight division.
You are picking and choose fighters to prove your point. Andy Ruiz is 5'11/6'0 tops. Alexander Povetkin is 6'1. Luis Ortiz is 6'2. George Foreman was 6'3 230. Which means Foreman was much heavier than Wilder. Ali was 6'2 1/2 which means he was taller than Ruiz and Ortiz.
ajax509 said on 25/Nov/19
Divisonleaders all time (subjective):
heavy = T.Fury
cruiser = Usyk
light heavy = Jones Jr.
super middel = Calzaghe
middle = Canelo
welter = Mayweather Jr.
Yang (5 footer 8, 173) said on 12/Nov/19
He always looks like about 5ft 11 quarter range heavyweight boxer when standing next to Anthony Joshua aka British Black heavyweight boxer....
Tall In The Saddle said on 12/Nov/19
@Rob - nice video. I think Louis was more in the realm of 6'1.5 - 6'2". Even in older age he appears to stand that relative to Ali and other later fighters like Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Chuvalo, Quarry etc.
Editor Rob
I wouldn't disount 6ft 1.5 for Joe
Desky said on 10/Nov/19
Could you do an illustration with him against the height chart with another fighter we know the height of, eg Parker, AJ etc?
Editor Rob
Funny you should ask because I was working on a short boxer comparison video, so I'll take a couple and put them into a single image for you
Ruiz Jr with Tyson/Fury/Joshua/Ali
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Comparison Video with a few others.
movieguy12 said on 10/Nov/19
Are you sure this guy is a flat 6ft. I think his heavy set physique might be deceiving. Up close and in person I get the feeling that he might be taller than this. Admittedly Joshua did look a lot taller in the weigh in at the last fight though so I might be wrong and Ruiz is 6ft no more or less.
Aar?n R said on 4/Nov/19
Seems legit, how tall is canelo rob? My guess is 5'7
Editor Rob
Under 5ft 8
Emil said on 3/Nov/19
He's honestly struggling to look more than 1.5 inches taller than Tyson in the pic linked down the page.
But he can still pull 6'0 off, so I'll give him that
Tall In The Saddle said on 30/Oct/19
Ruiz Jr - yes, 6 feet flat at best.
The weight loss claim for the upcoming rematch with AJ is either a scam or at best an originally legit goal that wasn't achieved - as per available sources (sans obvious photo shop) Ruiz doesn't look notably lighter. Given the complexion and result of the first fight one would guess that AJ will modify his strategy looking to stay well out of harm's way and maximise his height/reach advantage over a number of rounds, picking Ruiz off - with the hope that Ruiz will slow and perhaps gas badly - perhaps using Lewis v Tua as a blue print - but AJ is no Lewis. Enter the Ruiz weight loss claim - a contrived shout out to the AJ camp that an alleged lighter Ruiz has the chase covered and is up for the long haul.
In their first fight Ruiz appeared to have AJ rocking and reeling with almost every connection - not like the one punch KO losses that Lewis avenged. Very tough for AJ to reverse the result unless he can stop Ruiz early which would require an aggressive approach from the outset which invites the obvious risk of being blown out all over again.
Mickie said on 28/Oct/19
@ Harry Sachs - lol. Yes they are bigger today. The top guys. Taller and heavier. Compare Fury, Wlad, Vitali, Joshua etc to guys like Ali, Frazier, Foremam, Rocky M, etc. I'm not saying today's guys are better or worse but objectively the height and weight of the heavyweight champions has trended upwards. Any real boxing fan OR casual can tell you that. Only someone who doesn't know anything about the sport would tell you otherwise.
Harry Sachs said on 25/Oct/19
Also @mickie the casual boxing fan. You brought up Lennox Lewis. A boxer who turned pro in the late 80's. Nobody consider him being 6'4 1/2 a super heavyweight.
Tyson Fury is 6'7. There were tons of guys that height in the 80's and 90's and nobody consider that to be a super heavyweight. There were tons of 6'6 guys like Jack O'Halloran, Al Jones, James J Beattie ect and nobody called them a super heavyweight.
Joshua just got knocked out by a 6'0 tall Andy Ruiz. As a amateur 5'11 Mihai Nistor knocked out Anthony Joshua. The 6'6 Deontay Wilder was dominated and dropped by a 6'0 tall guy as a amateur.I always found it funny when casuals like you keep bringing up wrong information because you heard somebody on TV say it.
Harry Sachs said on 25/Oct/19
@mickie you are a casual fan. Lol todays heavyweights aren't bigger. They are fatter. Learn the difference between being fat and being in shape. There have been tons of 6'5 plus heavyweights since the 70's as I typed over and over again. Casual fans like you will just repeat something because you heard somebody else type it.
geslan said on 18/Oct/19
@Mickie They are too tall. Being tall is fine but they look overweight and slow its kind of boring. AJ got too much muscles for his frame he looks robotic. I think tall people can only pack that much muscle/fat if they are built like Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson from game of thrones. Otherwise they look like lanky guys who packed too much muscles and makes them uncoordinated.
That's why the average mr Olympia bodybuilders is like 5 foot 7.
Mickie said on 14/Oct/19
@Robbe - if Andy is a lift wearer, it would explain how he managed to look taller than 6'1" in sneakers with a barefoot AJ but has looked more 5'11" range with him at other times.
Mickie said on 14/Oct/19
@geslan - today's heavyweights are bigger guys, but yeah not all of them are elite skill set types. Personally I think Wilder and Fury are both better than AJ, but that's just me.
geslan said on 12/Oct/19
@Mickie I think what he is trying to say is that the heavyweight division is not what it used to be. The skill level is very low compared to the past. 6 foot cruiser weights might not want to move up for different reasons and not because they cannot compete with heavyweights. Andy ruiz showed that a world class natural 6 foot cruiserweight boxer who is overweight can beat the best heavyweight boxer alive today.
Robbe said on 11/Oct/19
Im pretty sure Andy is a lift wearer. He cant be this tall with 6'7 Dimitrenko.
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Somebody suspected Dimitrenko is not 6'7, but i don't think so. He looked the same height as 6'7.5 listed Adrian Granat. Also, he doesn't look shorter than 6'7 listed Tony Yoka.
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Andy wears often thick sneakers, with probably 1-1.5in lifts. He was almost the same height as Joseph Parker in the weigh in. Parker though barefoot, but anyway, Parker is a legit 6'3 barefoot, Andy cant be more than 6'1 in sneakers. Yet he was almost the same height as Parker. With similar shoes Parker is 3in taller. With Dimitrenko he also looks close to 6'3 lol.
Daniel T. Wells said on 10/Oct/19
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Rob, how tall does Dawejko look with Ruiz
Editor Rob
Somewhere in 5ft 9 range is possible
Mickie said on 5/Oct/19
@c-mo I agree, but only about the part that your mind cannot be changed lol. I don't think there is an objective ideal height for life, as different people are going to prefer different pluses and minuses of a given height. Objectively I think it's obvious that 6'0" is shorter than the ideal fighting height when you consider how many taller champions there are and how taller heights are rare in the population. But I doubt either of us switch our views.
Andy at 6'0" is correct btw.
c-mo said on 4/Oct/19
@ Mickie
only because 6'0 is the ideal height for fighting it doesnt mean that taller heights are bad for fighting . and there are also advantages of being very tall itself like reach advantage and you can weigh more without being fat and weight is an important factor in fighting . but a 6'0 guy has the advantage of brawling it out in the inside like andy did with joshua for example .
btw. you should look up Igor Vovchanchyn . he is around 172cm or so and was a heavyweight kickboxing and mma pioneer and he beat a lot of tall men
he hasnt lost often and when he did it was mostly due to grappling/submissions since he is a predominantly stand up fighter
his Kickboxing record
Total 63
Wins 61
By knockout 48
Losses 2
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his Mixed martial arts record
Total 71
Wins 59
By knockout 41
By submission 10
By decision 8
Losses 10
By knockout 1
By submission 6
By decision 3
Draws 1
No contests 1
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so as you see even a 172cm guy can be a ferocious heavyweight
look at Daniel Cormier who is a weak 5'10
Mike Tyson 5'10
James Toney 5'10
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6'0 is MORE than enough . it is the best height for life including for fighting and nothing will change my mind about it
Sampex said on 3/Oct/19
5'11.5- 5'11.75
Mickie said on 3/Oct/19
@ c-mo I think it's rather logically inconsistent to say that 6'0" is the ideal height for fighting and then say you didn't say being taller than that is a disadvantage.
Robbe said on 1/Oct/19
Andy is always standing at his very best in his shots. Obviously he wants to look as big as possible, cause he knows he's quite a small for a heavy weighter. Im not so sure if he's really 5cm taller than Tyson. In the latest pic he looks barely 5cm taller, but Tyson is standing very relaxed, while Andy is giving his best, as usually.
Editor Rob
He does have a tendency to raise his eyelevel a fair bit in photos.
Big T said on 30/Sep/19
Looks a pretty good 6’ imo with Mike Tyson. This is a fair listing.
Duhon said on 30/Sep/19
Ruiz and 5'10" Mike Tyson
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Mickie said on 28/Sep/19
@c-mo I understand what you're saying, I just don't think it makes any logical sense. Saying most 6'0" fighters are light-heavyweights doesn't make them better fighters, especially since they would lose to the heavyweights. If you want to find the BEST fighters, you have to look at the heavyweights. It's simple.
The last 2 decades saw Champions like
Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, Lennox Lewis, and the Klitschko brothers. Given how many fewer men there are in the population with their heights than there are 6'0"-ish guys, this would be basically statistically impossible if their height was a disadvantage.
If you look at the top heavyweights over the past 2 decades it seems like 6'5" - 6'8" range is closer to what you could call ideal, rather than 6'0". There are so few men in the population 6'5" - 6'8" compared to those say 5'10.5" - 6'1.5" (to keep the range of inches the same) yet we see more heavyweight champions (read - the best boxer in the world who would beat anyone in the lower weight divisions) in that taller range.
The important distinction - like I mentioned before - is that 6'0" like Andy Ruiz is still tall enough to give you a chance. Especially because other attributes like your quickness, technical prowess, toughness, and power are more important than just looking at the height of a boxer. Mike Tyson showed it was possible even in the 5'10" range with the right gifts.
c-mo said on 26/Sep/19
@ Rob
sorry I think the post I am talking about is already there . I mixed something up in my head my bad
@ Mickie you dont want to understand it seems lol
c-mo said on 25/Sep/19
@ Rob
I have posted a comment to Mickie but it doesnt show ....can you please display it
Editor Rob
I never saw it come through, so try again.
Johan 185 cm said on 25/Sep/19
Importer said on 21/Sep/19
@Johan 185 cm
Technique Size
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I don't mean reach/height but his actual physical condition. Has actually got me interested in boxing again.
Mickie said on 23/Sep/19
No way OBJ is taller. Especially if you factor in that the angle looks a little crooked on this photo robbing Andy of a little height.
Myself said on 22/Sep/19
@A Legend
It's true, but they redirect to another source...
viper said on 22/Sep/19
OBJ is taller If he stood straight
Mickie said on 21/Sep/19
Andy is easily taller than OBJ there lol.
Importer said on 21/Sep/19
@Johan 185 cm
Technique Size
Emil said on 21/Sep/19
@rando182
Andy could look a bit under 6'0 next to 5'8 Crawford, but Crawford also seems to have a significant footwear advantage in that picture. Like 0.75 inch or so
viper said on 20/Sep/19
He's 5-11.
Hell 5-11 Beckham looks like he would be taller than him in the above pic wearing sandals no less
Johan 185 cm said on 19/Sep/19
Have to admit I took one look at this guy and thought ..huh he is the champ? Joshua looking like some kind of greek god and this guy who looks like he camps out on his couch with a bag of nachos.
Just goes to show not to underestimate anyone and sometimes david does slay goliath.
Looks around a flat 6' next to weak 6'6 Joshua.
rando182 said on 18/Sep/19
Looks under 6'0 with Terrence Crawford:
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Mickie said on 17/Sep/19
I don't see how anyone could say 6'0" is the optimal height for a boxer. Remember - heavyweights are the best fighters. This has nothing to do with era - lighter fighters are welcome to step up to heavyweight - but they seldom do that because they are not capable of competing against them.
Sure there are heavyweights near the top of the world who are under 6'2". But when you have 90% of the world's top 20 heavyweights are in the top 10% of the adult male distribution of height, it clearly indicates optimal height is in that top 10% rather than slightly below it. If there were as many 6'6" men in the population to draw from as there are 6'0" men, you would see an even more dramatic distribution; but in real life 6'6" guys are much rarer so the odds are lower finding one blessed with the exceptional skills - leaving some chance for the 6'0" champion who is a more exceptional talent. Like Andy Ruiz.
Ruiz is A heavyweight champion rather than THE heavyweight champion btw. That's yet to have been settled. I look forward to him fighting Wilder or Fury, provided he wins the rematch with AJ.
A legend said on 17/Sep/19
Rob, the influence your website has is crazy; Google has now changed Andy Ruiz from 6’2 to 6’0.
Harry Sachs said on 15/Sep/19
It is funny reading comments from casual boxing fans. Le--t me explain this too you casuals. Foreman turned pro in 1969. Wladimir Klistchko turned pro in the 1990's was champion up until a few years ago. Foreman and Wlad actually fought fought some of the same fighters. The fighters who fought both Wlad and George have stated that Foreman punched harder than Wlad. Fighters who faced/sparred both Wlad and Deontay Wilder have stated that Wlad punched. Harder.
Second the average height for a American mane in the 80's up till this day is 5'10. So people in this country aren't getting taller.
3rd in boxing there has been tons of 6'4 plus heavyweights from the 70's up till this day. Nobody ever referred to being 6'4 as being a super heavyweight until guys on these boxing shows started saying this recently.
4th most heavyweights today are just overweight. Which is why the heavyweight division is so bad.
5th there is no heavyweight height division. There is a heavyweight weight division. So being a taller heavyweight doesn't make you a better fighter. If anything it makes you slower and more clumsy.
In any case Andy Ruiz is around 6'0 tall and is the heavyweight champion of the world after beating the 6'5 or so Anthony Joshua.
Mickie said on 10/Sep/19
Out of boxrec's world top 20 heavyweights (definitely not a perfect list imo but should give some sort of idea) we have:
2 guys under 6'1" (just Ruiz and Rivas, although Ruiz is billed above this range we know it's nearly certain he belongs here)
9 guys from 6'1" to 6'4"
9 guys over 6'4" (It would actually be 10 guys in this category and 8 in the former if I counted billed 6'4.5" Kubrat Pulev here, but I am not sure if he is really over 6'4").
The portion of the young male population that is over 6'1" in the western world is probably no more than 10%. Yet they make up 90% of the top 20 ranked heavyweight boxers.
The portion of the young male population that is over 6'4" in the western world is probably less than 2%. Yet they make up 45% of the top 20 ranked heavyweight boxers.
Advantage goes to the tall, in this sport.
Animus said on 10/Sep/19
He is probably 182-183cm - he looks like he could be a bit shy of 6'0, but it's tough to tell with his body type. Impressive that he's able to compete in heavyweight boxing with that frame.
Mickie said on 10/Sep/19
And just to add in - I don't think 6'0" is too short to have a chance at heavyweight today. But I think "ideal" is much taller. The 6'0" fighters in lower weight classes would do worse if they moved up in weight, not better. A good heavy weight will beat anyone in the world other than perhaps an exceptional cruiser weight.
Mickie said on 9/Sep/19
@c-mo - I think if 6'0" was ideal, we would see the division dominated by guys around that height. There are so many more slightly above average height men in the world than there are towering giants, yet you see the majority of the top heavyweights are well over 6'0". That tends to suggest it's a rather crucial advantage.
6'0" may well be the ideal height for a light-heavy division fighter or something, as once you start talking about weight classes the taller guys won't be able to function well at as low of a weight. But for the modern heavyweight, it seems like the prototype has shifted more towards guys who are above 6'5". In the old days there were a lot more guys at the top of the divison in the 6'0" - 6'4" range, but it seems like most of the time the heavyweight belt holders in the last couple decades have been 6'5"+.
Emil said on 9/Sep/19
@emre
He looks nowhere near 185 next to Joshua. He even struggles to look over 6'0
JMX178 said on 8/Sep/19
Was about to say how is he only 3 inches short than AJ when he is so much more shorter
YashVaman said on 8/Sep/19
@c-mo 6 is great height but even if you ar 6'4 you wont have problems with clothes , beds , doors , busses , cars.
viper said on 8/Sep/19
He certainly looks 5-11 Max in the above pic
Christian 6'5 3/8" said on 8/Sep/19
@Mickie
It's similar to Daniel Cormier being 5'9"-5'10" in the heavyweight division of MMA. It's short, but not too short to be competitive. Or Mike Tyson at 5'10".
Lkkss said on 8/Sep/19
Solid 5'11.75-6'0 guy.
Duhon said on 8/Sep/19
The average Mexican-American male is 5'7", so he is quite tall among his community.
emre celep said on 8/Sep/19
anthony looks 185 next to joshua
FOG_786 said on 7/Sep/19
Looksd 5’10 to me with Joshua
Voltaire said on 7/Sep/19
His 6'2 listing from various sites is absolutely hilarious. He is nowhere near that.
rando182 said on 7/Sep/19
Fair listing, he tends to look around 6 inches shorter than Joshua. Though personally I think he's a bit under, like 5'11.5.
Myself said on 6/Sep/19
Struggles for this mark...
Mr S said on 6/Sep/19
Good listing. No way he is anywhere near the 6'2" he is normally listed as. Seems a humble guy though so I dont know if the 6'2" claim comes from him.
Mickie said on 6/Sep/19
6'0" is definitely not an ideal height for a modern heavyweight - but it is tall enough to give you a chance. If you look at the Klitschko's, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, etc it is obvious that height is an advantage. Still Ruiz at 6'0", and a guy like Oscar Rivas who is likely under the 6'0" mark show you can be competitive in the modern era.
c-mo said on 6/Sep/19
@ ajax509
you downgraded almost everyone on your list lol
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@ viper
5'11 is too low for ruiz . there is more of a chance that he is 6'1 than 5'11 imo . but he is neither . 6'0 or 6'0.25 seems to be spot on
Gman39 said on 6/Sep/19
Glad he has been added. Agree with 6'0.
ajax509 said on 6/Sep/19
@c-mo These days, six feet is way to short to become an outstanding heavyweight champion. On December 7, Ruiz has to confirm his performance!
viper said on 5/Sep/19
Grizz you're taller. I believe hes 5-11
viper said on 5/Sep/19
He only looks 5-11 with 6-3 Josep Parker
Mickie said on 5/Sep/19
6'0" - 6'0.25" was what I ended up thinking after reviewing more pics. He can look under 6'0" at times, but unless he is a lift wearer (which you can't entirely rule out - the much taller boxer Wlad did it) his stare downs with AJ and Parker made under 6'0" look impossible.
c-mo said on 5/Sep/19
thank you Rob for adding him ! really cool
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grizz said on 5/Sep/19
So even a dude of my height has a fair chance in current heavyweight division. Cool.
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he doesnt have a "fair chance" ....he is the f***ing champipon lol . 6'0 is the perfect height . there is also another boxer who is 6'0 and is upcoming . his name is Evgeny Romanov ....he is very tough and has not lost so far as a pro and he knocked 6'7 deontay wilder out in the amateurs. he has 14 wins no losses and 10 KOs now as a pro . he will make it far I am sure ....in 2-3 years he might even get to top 5 ...top 10 for sure
of course fighting is not everything in life lol ....in fact boxing is a sport and fighting in general should only be done if it is absolutely necessary and if there is no way out and you have to protect yourself or your loved ones or something like that .
but 6'0 is great for fighting . you are tall enough to have not much if any weight disadvantage against taller men and have a reach and weight advantage over shorter men . you go in and brawl with tall men which is a big problem for them ...and you are more agile and quicker than taller men .
at 6'0 you are above average height but not too tall in any way . clothes , beds , doors , busses , cars , all no problem at all . great height for most sports , good height for dating because it is comfortable with women of almost any height , you can model at this height , still not tall enough to have problems gaining muscle mass , it is the ideal height
Mickie said on 5/Sep/19
Yeah - this is about right.
ajax509 said on 5/Sep/19
I have Ruiz at 5ft 10.75, shorter than Kimmel and same height as O.Beckham. In the pic above he has footwear and stance advantage over Odell.
Out of bed-afternoon:
Valuev 208-206cm
Price 202-200cm
Breazeale 200-198cm
T.Fury 200-198cm
V.Klitschko 199-197cm
Wilder 198-196cm
W.Klitschko 196-194cm
Joshua 195-193cm
Lewis 193-191cm
Ortiz 189-187cm
Ali 188-186cm
Bellew 188-186cm
Parker 187-185cm
Usyk 187-185cm
Haye 186-184cm
Holyfield 186-184cm
Povetkin 186-184cm
Calzaghe 181-179cm
Ruiz 181-179cm
Tyson 178-176cm
Golovkin 177-175cm
Canelo 172-170cm
Mayweather 170-168cm
Pacquiao 165-163cm
Emil said on 5/Sep/19
Thanks for adding him, Rob - agree with the listing
grizz said on 5/Sep/19
So even a dude of my height has a fair chance in current heavyweight division. Cool.
Robbe said on 5/Sep/19
Thanks Rob. 6ft is close enough. With 6'3 listed Josep Parker
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Redwing said on 5/Sep/19
Oh man wicked add rob, does Andy Ruiz really claim 6’2 though??
Editor Rob
I am not sure he would claim 6ft 2 with a straight face...I think there's enough out there for this guy to call into question 6ft 1-2 boxing listings for him.