How tall is Allen Iverson - Page 3

ballatician on a mission said on 29/Oct/05
how tall was iverson at 14 i wanna now if i can get taller than him when im older im already 5'8

LC said on 24/Oct/05
I was watching "Real Training Camp" on NBA TV last week, and I may have the answer to The Answer's actual height. At the end of the practice, a bunch of the players were bagging on one of the 76 guards/forwards about his inability to dunk. He in turn was told by Iverson to dunk off two feet. He complied with the request by throwing down a two handed dunk from a standing position. After which someone said something to Iverson(it was blanked out). Iverson responded with an emphatic. "AT 5'9!" He then dribbled to the other side of the court and threw down a one handed dunk.

Ash said on 22/Oct/05
Nah at most AI was bout an inch taller than Big Tigger. At most times they looked the same height.

Ball-A-Hallic said on 20/Oct/05
I recently saw him on BET 106nPark wit Big Tigger n I think brooke valentine n A.I. had like 4 inches on Tig n I heard Tig was like 5'9 or 5'8 so that would make A.I. wat 6'0 or 6'1 f Tig is really 5'9.

CelebHeights Editor said on 11/Jul/05
Quote from Travis Best: "Iverson ain't 6 feet. I've stood behind him many times, and he doesn't seem any taller than I am. He jumps high, but he's just as tall as I am...I don't know if it's a psychological thing in the NBA or what, but I've always taken pride in the height I am. I'm 5-11 and proud of it."

Ball-A-Hallic said on 29/Jun/05
AI's probally 5'10 barefoot wit shoes he's 5'11 n in the NBA ur measured wit shoes on so he's probally 5'11 1/2 or somethin so then he's pit at 6'0 so thats wat they probally do 2 measure a players' height

billy said on 27/Jun/05
Yo what about Larry Hughes. He is listed at 6-5 nonstop but some coachs say 6-6. He seems not much shorter than kwame brown, 6-11(or taller) or antawn jamison, 6-8 ish. What do yall think.

Mr. Awesome said on 20/Jun/05
I live in a suburb of philly and am a die-hard Sixers fan, so I decided it's time to set this straight. Ok, this is gonna sound kinda confusing, but I think everyone would be interested to know. One of my best friend's father's friend is one of the team physicians for the Philadelphia 76'ers. My friend has reported to me that it's been calculated that A.I.'s just under 5'11''.

Ball-A-Hallic said on 19/Jun/05
Ye I agree wit u on TD's height he's not 7'0 like some list him so he's probally 6'10.5 but wit shoes 6'11 or 6'11.5 so he probally gets boosted up to 7'0

Sing said on 18/Jun/05
Ben Wallace is probably more like 6-8 barefeet so Tim's got a couple of inches on him + longer arms. But Ben Wallace can jump out of the gym, and a quick leaper, that's why he can block shots and get rebounds. Charles Barkley was barely 6-5 and yet he was a great rebounder because of his quick leap. He left his feet and was up in the air before others could leave the ground, so that neutralized the height disadvantage.

However Ben Wallace always has problems with very tall centers like Yao Ming and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. The height disparity is just too great. I have seen one clip where Yao backed up Big Ben, turned, and dunked on him like he wasn't even there.

Duncan is about 6-10.5 barefeet.

Ball-A-Hallic said on 13/Jun/05
If LeBron is 6'9 or 6'10 he could play Power Forward and some centers r b-low 6'10 like Ben Wallace(6'9 and he's probsally not really 6'9 jus added up by 2 inches but i doubt it but he'd be a good one 2 list if he's truely 6'9 and plays CENTER)so if LeBron's grown he could play any position and be like Magic Johnson and he was 6'9 plus LeBron's good enough but I think he'll jus be a Shootin Guard or Small Forward.

Sing said on 9/Jun/05
Rob, this is a Iverson forum, not Lebron, aight? Besides, if Lebron grows to be 6-9 he's still shorter than every NBA center out there. He will just be a tall small forward/guard like Lamar Odom, who's listed @ 6-10, or Robert Horry, who's also 6-10.

Ball-A-Hallic said on 8/Jun/05
A.I.'s always looked shorter than 6'0 he's only 5'10 i think and is probally 5'11 or near 5'11.5 wit shoes so jus cause hes a Shooti Guard they make him 6'0 but that just shows how the NBA players get boosted heights by 2

Sing said on 3/Jun/05
It's always amazing to see guys under 6 feet dunking. I wonder if AI can do reverse, 360, windmill, and between the leg dunks. All the AI dunks I have seen are pretty boring. Spud Webb, who is 4 inches shorter, could do some amazing dunks. I wonder if Earl Boykins, at 5-4, can dunk. Does anybody know?

Jermaine said on 2/Jun/05
Allen Iverson is def not 6 feet tall.. i would say 5'10 without shoes and around 5'11 or 182 cm with..
but the guy can dunk so he really cares

Jason said on 1/Jun/05
Allen Iverson was listed as 182cm at last year's Olympics. That's 5'11 1/2''.

Ball-A-Hallic said on 31/May/05
Think a bout it in the NBA or any sport they round the players heights up like ONCE AGAIN said LeBron's 6'71/4 so they'll put em at 6'8 wit sneakers. So A.I.'s probally 5'10.5 tops he was never a 6'0 footer

Sing said on 30/May/05
Shaq says he's really 6-11.5 without shoes. Take a look at the photo below, how in the world is Garnett almost Shaq's height??? Garnett is likely only 6-9.5 without shoes, 6-11 with shoes.
http://www.nba.com/allaccess/allstar_yaollery.html?curPhoto=7

I don't think there is any doubt Yao's at least 7-6. Take a look the posting in Yao's section and at the photo below with Yao standing next to Bradley during Yao's first game with Dallas (bottom of the page). This is BEFORE Yao grew an inch. Yao appears to be slightly taller than Bradley even in this photo!

Yao's 7-6.5 nowadays without shoes and still growing!

http://www.nba.com/rockets/photogallery/RocketsMavs_Photo_Gallery_11-59382-34.html

Ozzie said on 27/May/05
Yes, but it doesn't say whether they measured him with or without shoes. Besides this is the Rockets organization, not the NBA. The Spurs had Duncan at 7'0" for 7 seasons as well. That turned out to be wrong... We might just give up, not ever can anybody be certain that the correct measurements are given.

Sing said on 25/May/05
Yao's 7-6, not 7-5.

http://www.nba.com/rockets/fans/ask_rockets030221.html

Mr. R said on 7/May/05
Smoke, I need to know which baseball players you are referring to? I am a baseball addict, and I follow the scores and height statistics closely. Just about every basaeball player I have ever met added 1-2 inches to their height. I have never met a player who downgraded their height. Who are you referring to?

Ozzie said on 7/May/05
I believe I've heard that both Bill Walton and Kevin Garnett prefers to use their without shoes measurements. Both are a shade over 6'11 (212cm I think), their teams wanted to list them at 7', buth neither wanted to be percieved as a 7-footer. With walton I don't know why (as goes with Duncan who suddenly demanded being listed at his more accurate 6'11(?)). Garnett doesn't want to be regarded as a post player I think he said... Agree with you Rob, why use the with shoes measurements? ...also, I think the metric system is a far more practical and accurate way to measure players. And Smoke, maybe Ben wears lifts;)

Smoke said on 6/May/05
Ozzie awesome stuff! This stuff definately does look right on the button, but some of the heights are still suprising none the less! Compared to my in person experience I'm shocked that Ben Gordon is that short without shoes! The Ridnour height looks on the button, as he was identical height to myself, no way he would be 6'2" without shoes. The Bosh listing looks dead on, T.J Ford looks even shorter than 5'11", he was always listed at 5'10" throughout college and looked it in person. Jameer Nelson is another guy who I'm suprised is 5'11" without shoes, he definately looks shorter. Another two guys who are suprises are from the Chicago Bulls, with Kirk Hinrich surprisingly standing almost 6'3" without shoes, he looks 187ish in cms to me, and Chris Duhon definately looked atleast marginally taller than a 6'0" on the nose guy.

Smoke said on 6/May/05
I'm from Toronto, and I've seen Bosh on even ground a few times, why would he round down? He does look like a 6'10" guy to me, this was his listing when he was drafted out of Georgia Tech. He's actually a very young guy, only 21 years old and it's very well possible he could have grown a little bit since coming into the league, but rounding down in the NBA is virtually unheard of. In the NHL however, and even a little bit in baseball as well, I have noticed this, I don't think I've ever met an NBA player who rounds down with the exception of Kenny Anderson, he's definately a heck of a lot bigger than 6'1" and 168 lbs.

Viper652 said on 6/May/05
The NBA heights are so screwed up that, 6-10 Robert Jackson is actually 3 inches shorter then 6-10 Chris Bosh.

Ozzie said on 6/May/05
Hey Once Again, if you read the formum, you'll see people have been doing research. People have even given references to their claims and comments, and opened their comments to interpretation... something you haven't.

Smoke said on 4/May/05
Now in the case of Barry some unnatural variables could be factoring into his height just like the rest of his body. He was indeed listed at 6'1" for most of his career and has now been listed at 6'2", when I last saw him a couple years ago he definately looked like a 6'2" guy to me. As for Iverson, yeah I think the 5'11" is generous, in person to me he definately looks a good bit shorter, but pictures for some reason show him to be close to this. I saw LeBron a couple of weeks ago and indeed he did look like a 6'7" guy, I underestimated him at first.

Once Again said on 4/May/05
B-Ball players ROUND UP HEIGHTS. To find actual heights, search for pre-draft camp measurements.
Some examples:
LeBron - 6'7 1/4" w/o shoes - (Listed at 6'8")

Stephen Hunter - 6'10 1/4" w/o shoes - (Listed at 7')

Do some research people.

Viper652 said on 4/May/05
He is deffinitly around 5-10. He was listed at 5-10 in College. What I dont get is some of the Major league baseball players have been bumped up an inch, which normally they are accurate. Jose Canseco was listed as 6-3 for most of his career, yet the last few years he was listed at 6-4. The same thing with Barry Bonds. He was listed at 6-1 for most of his career, yet the last few years he is now 6-2?? I think 6-1 is Barrys true height.

Ozzie said on 22/Apr/05
Smoke, comparing the height of the letters on the unis, and the position of their feet (visible behind the chairs) I would have to disagree with you on Ben being farther away from the camera. Team photos are in my opinion the photos where it is easiest to judge from. I agree with you on LeBron though. And beaner, really, impressive, however, I want to see proof of this incidence. Pictures that is (I count on that it wasn't a problem to have the photo taken when he agreed to this...)

These guys: Listed: Yao, 7-6, garnett, 6-11, shaq, 7-1... seems reasonable judging from this picture, however, if shaq is, as apparently he has said himself, 6-11.5, what about Garnett?: http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=3007222&cdi=0

Smoke said on 17/Apr/05
Ah beaner, but how do you know that Kobe is indeed 6'6", like I said, I agree with J. that LeBron is 6'7", and I'd say Kobe is 6'5" on a good day. All I can say is, I've seen Bryant in person and no way is he 6'6" without shoes. beaner, I apologize to you and other LeBron fans, but he is not 6'8", he's maybe 6'7" on a good day. Also note, LeBron is noticeably closer to the camera than Kobe in that pic.

Smoke said on 15/Apr/05
Ozzie, I noticed on the page you provided that Yao was 7'5" without shoes, and 7'6.25" with shoes. Comparing Ming's height with Shaq, there really isn't anything more than 4 inches between them, so either Yao is closer to 7'3" without shoes, or Shaq really is honestly listed at 7'1". I also agree with you that certain variables can indeed throw off people's apperance, however, some people are easier thrown off than others. Again, I'm 6'1", and on level ground Ronald Murray to me, looked almost my height, maybe 6'2". Luke Ridnour was same height as me, yet I was surprised to see him listed at 6'2". I do think that Murray really is 6'3" though, it's easy to be off by an inch or so when estimating. Again, I do think stuff like shoes and clothes, hair and what not can throw off one's impression, but I'm pretty sure that Duhon is slightly taller than Pargo in person. I'm really not sure of what measuring methods are used by these teams, my guess for the dropoff in height would be the use of stadiometers to accurately tell their height.

Ozzie said on 15/Apr/05
http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0102/jordan1.jpg: Looks the same size here, not much difference anyway, maybe MJ's a tad taller?

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~t1bender/bird_magic_254_1986.jpg: Both these guys were listed at 6'9, Bird said himself that he scraped 6'10 "on a good day", however the difference is bigger. I'll give Larry his 6'9.5, but Magic might maybe be a good 6'7... which also makes sense if Jordan is, say, 6'5:http://tiger.towson.edu/users/lellis3/magic_jordan_308_1992_usa.jpg

A couple of pictures of Shaq with two players previously supposed to be an inch shorter than him:
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0529/photo/s_hakshak_hi.jpg
http://www.peru.com/deportes/nba/images/20010215/historia.jpg

Duncan and Robinson, compare this to the Duncan and Shaq photo... is really Dave and Shaq the same height?:
http://www.hhweb.com/photos/nba2003champs/Duncan_Robinson_small.jpg

Ozzie said on 15/Apr/05
That's a good point, but again, the way people are built, shoe type, how erect they stand, even clothing, can give different impressions. It is easy to misjudge, even if you have the two persons in the same room. I always thought that two guys I knew were both approximately 6-1. It turned out that one of the guys was a good 6-3, the 6-1 guy even thought himself that he was slightly taller than the other guy... And, regardless of measures, it seems most players (not all, Murray is now listed at 6-3 by the sonics (down from 6-4 last season...) songaila's height is correctly listed by the kings, so on, so on) are given at least an inch by the NBA. This explains how for example Shaq may well be 6-11 1/2 and listed at 7-1 (comp.: Mario Kasun).

Smoke said on 14/Apr/05
The funny thing about these heights is that in person they look much different. For instance Jannero Pargo is supposed to be 6'.0.25" without shoes, and Chris Duhon is supposed to be 6'0" without shoes, yet Duhon is somewhat taller than Pargo in person. Another thing is, I'm surprised that Murray is actually 6'3" without shoes, I remember him barely being taller than me, the Smush Parker height is also surprising, he really looked a solid 6'4" in person. Again, I'm not sure if these guys are using tape measures, or convenience store height charts to measure these guys.

Ozzie said on 14/Apr/05
http://www.nba.com/media/bulls/predraft_sizes_02.pdf

I know some of these were quite young and might have grown, as Amare, who himself said (after being listed at 6-7 during last years olympics) that he now is 6-9 1/4 (suns have him at 6-10). Anyway it is interesting (Boozer, Butler, Dunleavy, Gooden, Haslem, Kasun, Yao, Nene...) I do not trust the nba listings anymore anyway. however, my experience is that wingspan and Standing Reach is perhaps more important than height... (an aspect where I have suffered myself, at 6-3 with a 6-4 1/4 wingspan and a 8' Standing Reach (in shoes) compared to a player of my size, Ronald Murray: 6-7 1/2, 8-4 1/2)... well I never was good enough anyway:))

Smoke said on 13/Apr/05
Ozzie, I'm the first to admit when I'm wrong, and this stuff you just posted is pretty good proof. I'm not sure how long this has been going in the NBA, I'm not sure whether all of the older players in the league are also listed relative to their height with shoes on and not without. I also think your hunch on Hamilton is correct, he definately doesn't seem very tall for a basketball player in person. Again, I'm somewhat surprised at the fact that most of these guys do wear basketball sneakers, and usually get about 1.25 inches boost from them. Most dress shoes I own barely even have that. Some of the heights on there are still quite surprising, like Duhon being that short. But again, your proof looks pretty good to me.

Ozzie said on 13/Apr/05
Most of the info was published (or more correctly: leaked. The NBA keeps this info confidential) in connection to different pre-draft workouts and what the players have said themselves in interviews. Here's some links that gives the actual heights of some players:

http://www.nba.com/media/bulls/predraft_vitals_03.pdf.
http://www.nba.com/draft2004/measurements_040610.html

I'll try to dig up the rest . The spurs admitted that they listed TD at 7'(was listed at 6-10 as a rookie) to boost the twin tower image while he really is a shade under 6-11. One coach (I don't remember who) also said during last years playoffs that a player like Mark Madsen, mostly spending his time in the post, is 6-7, not the listed 6-9. I'm also curious about Ben Wallace. He is listed at 6-9, but I think I recall him admitting that he probably is closer to 6-6, he certainly looked shorter than LeBron in the ASG.. anyway, it would make him impressive. Another piston I doubt is as tall as listed is Rip Hamilton. I agree that some people are built in a way that make them look shorter/bigger, but he does not look 6-7.

But what about the opposite? Brendan Haywood, listed at 7-0 is actually 7-1, but UNC supposedly took away an inch to take away some of the expectations, so I heard.

Smoke said on 13/Apr/05
Again, I'm not sure of everyone's credentials on here, but the best way to find out someone's real height is in-person. I'm sure The Sporting News has some relevant information, but the best way to see if someone is lying or being honest is to see for yourself. In person, LeBron just doesn't look 6'7", he looks under this, and Anthony doesn't look 6'6.5" either. The interesting height was about Luke Ridnour, listed at 6'1", he used to get listed at 6'2" and now gets listed by his real height which in reality is actually about 6'1". Again, I agree with you guys that most guys lie, but there are a lot of guys out there being honest too. BTW I would be very surprised if Ewing was actually taller than Olajuwon in reality. Also, I don't know what kind of basketball shoes ben wears, but if he's 6'.1.75" without shoes, then those would be mighty big basketball heals to be 6'3' in them. Perhaps we have the NBA version of Serena Williams here? Ben really does seem like a fairly tall guy in my encounter, so again, it surprises me that he isn't atleast 6'2".

Blahboy989 said on 13/Apr/05
For those who are interested...http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/articles/20030614/478543.html

It states "For the record: LeBron James is 6-7 1/4, 245, a tad bigger than listed. Darko Milicic is an authentic big man at 6-11 1/2, 250. Carmelo Anthony, who was listed at 6-8 at Syracuse, is 6-6 1/2, 233, 10 pounds over his listed weight. "

mask said on 13/Apr/05
excuse me but if Ewing is 6'9" so David Robinson is atleast 6'11" and shaq's also is around 6'11"(always without shoes).Or not?

alright said on 12/Apr/05
and tim duncans a solid 6'10...not 7'0 as listed...but has a mammoth 7'5 wingspan which allows him to be listed that that tall

alright said on 12/Apr/05
smoke,i play college ball at central connecticut and i know all the little tricks people use...probably 95% of nbaers list their heights with shoes..very few list without them...

Smoke said on 12/Apr/05
I think the 2 inch shoes on Barkley are a possibility, though I've heard in places that he's actually 6'7" without shoes and not 6'6". All I can say on Ewing is that my comparison of his height relative to that of Hakeem (supposedly 6'10.25") definately has Hakeem being somewhat taller. And for the record, basketball players wear shoes with good heals too, and lifts aren't out of the question either.

Blahboy989 said on 12/Apr/05
Actually, Ewing is not 7'0, not even 6'11 for that matter...he even said it himself.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/03/07/first_person0314/

You can see that Ewing is really 6'9, which is pretty shocking. I always thought he was a solid 7 footer and definitely towered over Charles Oakley (who I believe was listed 6'9) or Charles Smith (6'10). I am really confused about NBA height now.

Smoke said on 12/Apr/05
Wow, some of those heights given by Ozzie certainly look different in person. Ben Gordon is 6'1.75" without shoes? He definately looks a little bit taller than that in person. The Childress height I can agree with, maybe as well as the Richardson height as well. For the record, where did you get all of this info? It does seem relatively accurate as well, but I think that even J. can agree with me, Ben Gordon doesn't look a shade under 6'2". Another think that surprises me greatly is your given information of Patrick Ewing actually being taller than Hakeem Olajuwon, in my meeting with Hakeem I could definately say he looked a solid 7 footer. Ewing to me, definately looked somewhat shorter than 7'0". Some of those heights given by Ozzie seem realistic, others just don't. Obviously most heights in the NBA are false, but no way 90% of NBA heights are listed with shoes on.

J. said on 9/Apr/05
Mr. R, it's hard to pinpoint a guy who's as tall as Shaq but I also heard that he recently revealed that he's not quite 7 feet nowadays. I remember on one of Shaq's rap records (a putrid memory, it is ...) he rhymed "7-0", meaning I'm 7 feet. For most of his NBA career, they could have easily added an inch for his 'offical height'. It's similar to Andre The Giant, who many argue was never 7 feet to begin with.

Smoke said on 9/Apr/05
Yeah I fully agree with Mr. R on the baseball, and it wouldn't shock me if Shaq wasn't really 7'1". It's really hard to pinpoint guys who are that tall though, even if I were 6'11", I would lose count of all the inches I had. I may try to get a photo taken with Shaq sometime to see if I'm really a foot shorter than him, but I've taken one with Vladimir Stepania (listed at 7'1") and indeed he was the full 7'1", same goes for Lakers' Forward Lamar Odom whom my account has as a full 6'10", Dwyane Wade is a solid 6'4" as well. Even many heights in the NBA are accurate, I wouldn't necessarily agree with alright's account that 90% of NBA heights are false. I also agree with Mr. R's account of Castilla, I saw him walk out of Shea Stadium while I was in New York and he definately seemed to be a little bit shorter than me (6'1"). I can't comment on Canseco, last time I saw him I wasn't full grown and he looked like pretty huge to me. I really think that baseball is fairly accurate about listings though, atleast in comparison to stuff like basketball, women's tennis, and by the sounds of it, the NFL. For instance I was surprised at how tall Johnny Damon looked in person, he really did look 6'2", I would definately compare baseball to the NHL where many heights are also accurately listed.

Anonymous said on 9/Apr/05
carmello anthony's height was listed at 6 foot 6 in college now in NBA he is 6 foot 8???? I can prove not http://www.higher2fly.com/scrapbook/scrapbook2/sbk2-3.htm in this pic he stands next to 6 foot 7 high jumper....here is that same man with 7 foot tim duncan???? i beg to differ http://www.higher2fly.com/scrapbook/scrapbook2/sbk2-4.htm

Mr. R said on 8/Apr/05
I was told recently that Shaq was on a radio talk show before he left LA and stated that he was really 6'11.5", not the 7-1 we hear about. Also, I heard the same about Tim Duncan, that he confirmed in public that he was not quite 7 feet tall. Do you know anything about that Smoke? Regardless, they still are pretty massive men with huge feet. I once saw Wilt Chamberlain when he was on his book tour in 1991. When he stood up to leave, I thought it was an eclipse!

Smoke said on 8/Apr/05
Mask, I very much agree with your 6'4" on MJ. Granted it's been a few years since I've seen him, but to me he really did look no more than 6'4", maybe 6'5" at most. Jordan is also very thin, and even still he didn't look the 6'6" he's listed as. Shaq I'm not to sure on, his footwear varies, many basketball players just wear basketball sneakers all the time, Shaq can wear anything from sneakers to big snowboots (in other words he dresses for the weather here in the winter), so it's hard to tell with him. I would say he's atleast 7'0", and very possibly the 7'1" he's listed as. Now Dwyane Wade is very accurately listed at 6'4", so you can try comparing their heights to see if Shaq really is the full 9 inches taller than him.

mask said on 8/Apr/05
hey smoke I'd like to know the real height of shaq and mj if you know:According to myself shaq stands(without shoes) at 7'0'' while mj is a mere 6'4''(but he is always the best)

J. said on 7/Apr/05
Smoke, when I wrote that many NBA players are not the giants that people presume to be, I didn't mean that to you directly. I meant in general, that these people aren't the monster-sized people that they are advertised as. But yes, when I saw 'Bron play a year ago, he didn't look exactly 6'8" to me either. So I investiagted as shown with the info below! (All that came from a bet that a buddy and I had going, by the way! Of course, I won!) Yet anyhow, I think it's cool that you live near Toronto. I went there last summer for a vacation and I seriously did not want to leave. It's a big, beautiful city and I'll most likely be going down again this summer. This time, I'm bringing along a camcorder, a measuring stick and looking for some celebs to size up! ;-) I'm also a huge sports fan, more NFL than NBA. And I'll be here all day telling you the dudes in the NFL who flat out lie about their size. One of my own childhood NFL heroes was MUCH smaller than he was always listed and that made forever lose faith in celebs telling the truth about their physical stature .... (smile)

Smoke said on 7/Apr/05
But why would they round down? Bosh wants to seem more like a PF than a Center? Garnett 7'1"-7'2"? I think he's actually closer to 6'10" than 6'11", he's thin and has long legs. Many of these guys look taller from a distance because of this. I'll give Jason Terry and Rafer both as examples, both are really just about 6'2" (their official listing), when you stand closer to them they seem just about this height, but from a distance they definately look taller than their height. I'm 6'1", and from a distance a lot of these guys just look enormous, but if you manage to stand closer, I notice that they really aren't so towering. Another guy is actually Luol Deng, who is definately not 6'8" without shoes. You can really go on forever about false heights in the NBA, and like I said, women's tennis looks pretty bad about it too. LeBron, this is just my account, I wouldn't be suprised if he scraped 6'7", but he's atleast an inch away from his listed height.

alright said on 7/Apr/05
Lebron is 6'8 with shoes....considering 90% of NBAers list there heights with shoes on...And when i was at a raptors game Lebron was an inch taller then VC who is 6'7(with shoes)...and i'm 6'3 and stood up while i was on teh baseline and lebron seriously towered over me...He's nowhere near 6'5...another one is Kevin Garnett listing himself at 6'11 when he looks more around 7'1-7'2..Or bosh listing himself at 6'10 when he looks more around 6'11-7'0...its mindboggling..i wish everyone would just tell the truth

Smoke said on 7/Apr/05
I agree that ESPN is an accurate source, but these are the same people who said that T.J Ford is 6'.5" with shoes on. My recollection of T.J (hopefully he gets well soon) has him standing 5'10" at best. And Mr. R, just to answer your question about sports in my area, we do have teams from every major sport except for the NFL and MLS and as a lover of sports, I frequently attend sporting events in the city.

J. I am fully aware that NBA players may not quite be the giants that I may think them to be. ;) I saw Gordon not too long ago as well, and my account does have him at 6'2"-6'3", I do recall him being about an inch or so taller than me. From that pic, Carmelo does look about 6'6"...I admit I didn't get a great look at Carmelo when I saw him, but LeBron to me didn't look that tall at all, he really did look as though he was barely 6'6" if that at all.

As for the NFLers, I haven't met too many, but the few I have met looked to be right on their listings. Another group I can go on about being pushed up are female tennis players, now let's get some more of them and athletes in general listed on here!

J. said on 6/Apr/05
Alright, Smoke, I said that I'd let you on Carmelo/Lebron's 'true heights'. Well while doing some digging on the good ole internet a while ago, I found this revealing tidbit about Mr. Anthony:

Carmelo Anthony measured just 6-7

Smoke said on 6/Apr/05
Beaner, I know LeBron James has a legion of fans, and they too would have a hard time excepting the fact that their favorite player really isn't that tall for a basketball player. J. has LeBron at 6'7", but my personal account has him at 6'5"-6'6", I'll lean towards 6'6" because he really does look it next to AI. I'm sure LeBron's fans will find consolation in his performances on the court, which his height obviously doesn't deter.

Smoke said on 1/Apr/05
Really? Neither looked that height to me in person.

J. said on 1/Apr/05
Lebron is really 6'7". Carmelo's 6'6" and a quarter. He's 6'7 and a half with his basketball sneakers on. I'll tell you how I got the actual measurements on a later post.

Smoke said on 1/Apr/05
Beaner, no way is LeBron 6'8", he looks dead on 6'6". Check out his pic with Iverson from my previous post.

Monty said on 23/Mar/05
Heres a pic of him next to 5'11 Travis Best
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=567015&cdi=0

Smoke said on 22/Mar/05
Yep! I think it's fair to say a lot of NBA guys get a good inch in boost from public profiles such as NBA.com, but there are still some players that are accurately listed! Dwayne Wade is an accurate 6'4", and some may also be surprised to hear that Steve Nash is actually 6'3" like he's billed to be! I've just noticed Stephon Marbury being listed at 6'2" by NBA.com, he's same height as me, and I'm not even a quarter inch over 6'1". Also, Luke Ridnour is still listed in some places as being a majestic 6'2", but in reality I recall him only being about same height as me! Some players (ahem..King James) even get a good 2 inches boost! Yeah, my recollection of AI in comparison to my own height doesn't even have him standing 5'11". But I agree with our editor that it's not always easy to judge heights in person...especially when someone is rail thin and walks so fast you may think they part of their body is on fire. AI does look about 5'11" in some good pics.

J. said on 22/Mar/05
I agree with 8-ball. Iverson's MUCH, MUCH shorter than most of the guys in the NBA and he more game than most of them! Anyway, I think 5'11" is defintely his height. They boost him up a inch on his NBA profile. Makes sense. ... If only he had a better attitude (the community center incident is a loonnnggg story).

8-ball said on 22/Mar/05
I saw A.I. at the club. He looked between 5'11"(180cm) and 6' (182cm). He was in sneakers and a sweat suit. No shorter 5'11, not 6'1" (186cm). In high school and college they likely padded his hight for effect (he played football too). But now, in the NBA, why bother?

One thing is certain: he got game.

Mr. R said on 21/Mar/05
Ah Smoke! I have never met Mr. Iverson, just seen him from the nosebleed section. I have heard that he is much shorter than advertised, and your personal story confirms this. But this is the same sort of thing I encounter in Hollywood, so I affirm your estimate and hope we can enjoy the site, while respectfully disagreeing at times. Also, I see a lot of baseball players, and they lie a lot too!

Smoke said on 21/Mar/05
I have to say, Iverson is puzzling! When I met him last, which was really only a couple of weeks ago he didn't look anything more than 5'9" or 5'10"...NO WAY did this guy look 5'11". I think he's one of those folks who's deceptive in appearance because he seems smaller than he actually is, I'm 6'1" and remember being quite a bit taller than him. But then I look at pics and he looks about 5'11"! I've got a pic of him with 6'4" (awesome player who's height is accurately listed) Dwyane Wade and he looks about 5 inches shorter. Then I've got a pic of 5'11" AI with LeBron, and King James himself looks no more than 6 or 7 inches taller than AI. I think it's easier to actually get an autograph out of AI or LeBron than it is to figure out just how tall they really are! I do know for a fact that Marbury and Wade are accurate at 6'1" and 6'4" respectively. Yeah Tyronn Lue is definately not 6'0" either, I remember him to be about 5'9" in basketball shoes, then again I also remember AI to be 5'9". :)
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52264680&cdi=0
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52222824&cdi=0

J. said on 21/Mar/05
An intresting little tidbit from a piece on NBA.com:

"Jerome Williams, Toronto Raptors forward and college teammate:

Playing with Allen Iverson was a learning experience for me. In the summer of 1994, I remember when Allen and I first got in the gym, I'm seeing this little guy who's 5'11'' and maybe a buck five in weight (150 pounds) dunking on seven-footers. I was asking myself, what just happened? It was just amazing to watch. I thought, "this guy's going to be in the NBA one day."

And after thinking back about the encounter at the community center, I think Allen may be more 5'11"-ish. Maybe.

J. said on 21/Mar/05
I remember meeting Iverson back in 2000 at this community center in Hartford, CT since he and his family are natives of Hartford. He wasn't the nicest guy BUT I did notice that he did seem less than the 6 feet he's always listed as. So I say the 5'10" and some change listing is more accurate. Many NBA players, the ones I met at least, are shorter than they are listed. Tyronn Lue (guard, Atlanta Hawks), for instance, is listed as 6'0" yet I met him at a party not too long ago and he's really a mere 5'7"-ish. Dennis Rodman is admittedly 6'6" yet was listed as 6'8" and 6'9" throughout his career. I also have doubts if Carmelo Anthony is really 6'8" (I say he's barely 6'6"). And Smoke's totally right about LeBron, he ain't 6'8". I saw the Cavaliers play and he seemed more on the 6'6" mark. Here's proof, a pretty small picture but proves my prove. Usher is 5'8"-ish: http://www.usher-rising.com/readusherlebron.jpg. He's not a foot taller than Usher. Now see Smoke, I'm not downgrading them just to downgrade them, these guys really are shorter than they say.

Smoke said on 21/Mar/05
Yeah, you know he's very slight of build also, he doesn't even look the 160-165 lbs. (73-75 kg) that he's always been listed as. I think maybe because of that I might be cutting AI a little bit short, I think the 179 cm he's listed as now is pretty accurate. Needless to say, players of his stature are very uncommon in the NBA, even guys who are genuinely 6'0"-6'3" are dwarves. Here is a pic of Allen with 6'1" New York Knicks Point Guard Stephon Marbury, I can confirm Marbury's height because I have met him and indeed he was same height as me. Here is AI looking a good two inches shorter than Stephon, he may indeed be 5'10.5" exactly. May I also note that LeBron James is not nearly the 6'8" he is listed as, I think he is 6'6" tops and probably closer to 6'5".
http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52197654&cdi=0